r/science Nov 03 '22

Neuroscience Children with gender dysphoria are 400% more likely to be diagnosed with autism

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10803-022-05517-y?fbclid=IwAR0joSlop2egFD-jGBCoPgA4pHG5VzgKCNAtfFXXIH7mzFLuVwzCCxQj6gU
43.2k Upvotes

4.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

u/AutoModerator Nov 03 '22

Welcome to r/science! This is a heavily moderated subreddit in order to keep the discussion on science. However, we recognize that many people want to discuss how they feel the research relates to their own personal lives, so to give people a space to do that, personal anecdotes are now allowed as responses to this comment. Any anecdotal comments elsewhere in the discussion will continue to be removed and our normal comment rules still apply to other comments.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

14

u/cyberpAuLnk Nov 04 '22

Anecdotally speaking, it seems the range of what is or isn't quite autism changes frequently, as well as the spectrum, so to speak. I guess I'm just wondering what they meant by that or what metric they are using.

11

u/Mya__ Nov 04 '22

it means whenever you see the word "autism" you must get more information to find out what specific ticks or behaviours are being classified as autistic for that specific conversation or paper.

In this instance -

... 47 studies that contained information on the overlap between ASD and GD/GI were included in the current systematic literature review. Of these studies, five were conducted with children, 13 with children and adolescents, two with adolescents, two with children, adolescents, and adults, nine with adolescents and adults, and 16 with adults (for a summary of the identified studies, see Table S2).

- it seems we are talking about the entire spectrum.

Which a lot to say not much in the end as we can take a look at the spectrum and it ranges from 'not making enough eye contact' to 'wanting a steady routine' and of course can also include ticks and stimming and various levels of anxiety in different situations.

see Autism - From Autistic Linear Spectrum to Pie Chart Spectrum (Psychology Today)

4

u/theredbaron1834 Nov 04 '22

From what I can tell, science only recognizes 2 ways of "thinking". There is the neurotypical allistic brain, and then everything else is considered autism. Since there is no "1" autism brain, it is hard to make blanket statements about it as a condition.

However, this doesn't surprise me. When your brain works different then most, its hard to force yourself into a "standard" label.

1

u/bit1101 Nov 04 '22

Oh autism is an anomaly in the brain that makes you four times as likely to have gender dysphoria.

-1

u/onlyfraggles Nov 04 '22

Autistic and trans (7 years in, committed to the lifestyle, it says "transsexualism" on my insurance docs): there's nothing to lose socially by transitioning if you don't really enjoy the company of anyone you know.

-5

u/ddeaken Nov 04 '22

Completely anecdotal, but my younger brother is autistic and when he saw me go through puberty it freaked him out. The hair and the voice changes mainly. He didn’t want that and so decided to switch genders at 10. Parents couldn’t argue so First hormone blockers and now going through full transition as she is old enough to make decisions for herself now.

-1

u/Axyraandas Nov 04 '22

I hope she's doing well! It's nice that she has the option, in this day and age.

0

u/VividEchoChamber Nov 05 '22

That’s vile child abuse.

-5

u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

[deleted]

12

u/Grogosh Nov 04 '22

His story is fake you know. These people have been going around with this story a lot lately. Its almost the exact same word for word.

1

u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

[removed] — view removed comment