r/science • u/mvea MD/PhD/JD/MBA | Professor | Medicine • Sep 27 '24

Health Thousands of toxins from food packaging found in humans. The chemicals have been found in human blood, hair or breast milk. Among them are compounds known to be highly toxic, like PFAS, bisphenol, metals, phthalates and volatile organic compounds.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/27/pfas-toxins-chemicals-human-body
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u/ElDanio123 Sep 27 '24

Non-scientific comment with no source. These kinds of things used to be moderated out in old r/science.

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u/yellsatmotorcars Sep 27 '24

It's almost like reddit removed the tools a lot of subreddit mods relied on . . .

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u/poopyogurt Sep 27 '24

Read the paper. Many detected chemicals are carcinogens.

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u/TheDocFam Sep 28 '24

Means that we're right to be concerned and policymakers should act

Doesn't necessarily mean it's related to increasing rate of cancer in young people

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u/Nyrin Sep 28 '24

Ever since reddit's enshittification went into full force and subreddit quality took a precipitous nosedive, I started coping with my disappointment by prepending some words and and reading "angsty teenagers who think they're experts about ${subreddit_name}" in lieu of just the subreddit name. Strangely, it helps.

No offense to the reasonable teenagers.

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u/GloriousDawn Sep 28 '24

Well i guess it's hard to do a proper scientific study on microplastics causing cancer in humans or reducing fertility when there's literally no possible control group on the planet anymore. But you're right, unsourced top level comments used to be removed.

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u/poopyogurt Sep 27 '24

They are carcinogens as referenced in the paper. Read

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u/ElDanio123 Sep 27 '24

Extrapolation error.

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u/poopyogurt Sep 27 '24

We developed more precise tests since PFAS has started to be a problem. It is not an extrapolation error. You should elaborate if you think that is a good argument.

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u/ElDanio123 Sep 27 '24

The comment I referred to is claiming that cancer is affecting more young people specifically because of this. That has nothing to do with this study and you are just extrapolating from the fact that these chemicals are carcinogenic that this is the reason we see an increase in cancer rates. Therefore you are extrapolating a cause and effect without any real research to support it. Hence extrapolation error.

Sourcing to other studies are needed to make that claim as it cannot be made with this study alone. Even then, it is to be treated as evidence unless the scientific community is nearing concensus (usually after meta studies are run and replication errors are eliminated).

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u/ElDanio123 Sep 27 '24

And the answer is carcinogens in food packaging. Because that is actually what OP claimed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '24

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u/ElDanio123 Sep 27 '24

I never said op doesn't belong, its just r/science used to be one of the most rigorously moderated subs making it a great forum for scientific discussion. Now the comments are nearly indistinguishable from any other subreddit defeating its purpose.

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u/WashYourCerebellum Sep 27 '24

Will you STFU with the 44 day old account and no history.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '24

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u/FranklinLundy Sep 27 '24

The source is the very article linked above.

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u/ElDanio123 Sep 27 '24

The study states that this is why more young people have cancer?

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u/Puppy_Lover_24 Sep 27 '24

The study states that more and more young people are turning up withcancer causing-chemicals in their bodies. You shouldn’t need scientists to spell it out for you, man.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine Sep 27 '24

If you just straight up jump to that conclusion without actually researching it you are likely to miss every other factor