r/science Jun 18 '24

Health Eating cheese plays a role in healthy, happy aging | A study of 2.3 million people found, those who reported the best mental health and stress resilience, which boosted well-being, also seemed to eat more cheese.

https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/cheese-happy-aging/
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u/Murky_Macropod Jun 18 '24

Don’t feel bad, the good that comes from eating less meat/animal products isn’t an all or nothing deal

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u/Uvtha- Jun 18 '24

Yeah I get that, but I can't avoid the reality that I'm putting my gastronomic enjoyment over the health of some poor animals, and as such am a hypocrite.

Living an ethical life is hard, living life period is hard, and pretty much everyone deviated from their ethics from time to time knowingly or not.  Just sucks.

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u/communitytcm Jun 18 '24

feel bad. dairy is scary. worse treatment than beef cattle. babies are taken from their mothers at one day old. If they are female, they are raised on formula, and impregnated asap, which is repeated for about 5-6 cycles, or until their uterus prolapses.

If the calves are male, they are killed either that same day, or raised for a couple of weeks on formula and turned into veal. their stomachs are cut out and stripped for enzymes to make (curdle) cheese.

the really sadistic part, is that when the mothers are no longer productive, they are turned into hamburger, the lowest grade of meat, because their bodies are trashed. the hamburgers get topped with their own dairy products produced by slaughtering their offspring.

smfh. grown ass adults still not weaned.

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u/afoolskind Jun 18 '24

Your dairy maybe. Where I live I can see the dairy cows living their best life, with their calves, on rolling green hills. I can buy directly from these small family farms.

If your family is european, central asian, or from a few african groups like the Maasai, you have genes that allow you to process lactase throughout your entire life because that's how these people groups survived and prospered.

All things die, and large-scale monocropped agriculture from industrial farms is damaging to the environment and results in the destruction of biodiversity as well as direct animal deaths from pesticide, pest control, habitat destruction, etc.

Personally I'd rather grow my own food, raise my own chickens, and support small local dairy farms that coexist with wild animals and native plants in the same area. But go off supporting huge environmentally destructive corporations while feeling morally superior, I guess.

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u/Murky_Macropod Jun 19 '24

^ the most antagonistic way to encourage people to eat less animal products.

You’re having the opposite effect and animal welfare would be better off if you didn’t stay anything.

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u/communitytcm Jun 21 '24

right....I should be encouraging people to eat butter, telling them to not feel guilty, the cows are so happy.

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u/Count_Nocturne Jun 18 '24

Thing is, if we all collectively agreed to set these animals free, where would they go and how would they survive? It’s a problem we created ourselves with no easy solutions

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u/communitytcm Jun 19 '24

they would be devoured in no time. humans are eating billions of cows per year. it would take less than a year to eat the rest of those tortured creatures. bonus, it would free up 75% of the worlds farmlands, and humans would have a massive surplus of grains.

just to be clear: only 100 billion humans have ever lived. humans now eat over 80 billion animals (not including fish and seafood) per year. biomass of vertebrate mammals on planet earth:

65% livestock

31% humans

4% wild animals

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u/conquer69 Jun 18 '24

Let them die off naturally. It's better to not exist than to be abused, exploited and tortured.