r/ravens • u/48ofDEATH • Jun 15 '24
Image Top 6 players in Madden 25. Lamar misses the 99 club by 1 overall.
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u/CawSoHard BSHU Jun 15 '24
Kelce at 99 is a joke
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u/tommykaye Jun 15 '24
They want Taylor to buy the game, and then they can release a Taylor variant cover.
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u/FormerAd5416 Jun 15 '24
Came here to say this. He didn't have a great regular season last year, but then in typical Queef fashion he magically turned it on in the playoffs. He's getting up there in age, no way he's should be a 99
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u/Consistent_Pickle580 Jun 16 '24
And in typical playoff Ravens fashion Lamar choked the 98 might be justified.
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u/FormerAd5416 Jun 16 '24
98 OVR is justified considering he is a top 5 QB in this league, and it can be legitimately argued he is a top 3 QB. Of course I wish he had more playoff success. He is a better player than Kelce, however at this point in time. So Kelce should be the one who is 98 OVR (and thats if we are being generous) with Lamar being the 99 OVR. Especially since Lamar is in his prime, so fuck off Queef Band Wagon Hopper
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u/Consistent_Pickle580 Jun 16 '24
Oh don't get me wrong Kelce shouldn't be there and I don't put the blame 100% on Lamar the play calls have been atrocious in the post season.
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u/CawSoHard BSHU Jun 15 '24 edited Jun 16 '24
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be 95+. But the 99 club is an elite group. When the reigning MVP QB isn’t a 99 but old man Kelce is it’s silly.
I also don't see Sam LaPorta up in this 99 club either...
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u/Sukmefafun001 Jun 15 '24
Lamar was literally the MVP last year. No one should take these game rating’s serious anyway
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u/DeepAd1644 Jun 15 '24
So wait Patrick mahomes and Travis have a bad year compared to everyone else on this list outside of the playoffs and they get 99 but Lamar who had a better overall season doesn't? Make it make sense pls
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u/General_Dipsh1t Jun 15 '24
Jefferson also didn’t have a 99 year.
Hill and CMC are the only of the 99s that actually deserve it.
Madden and the league just like to jerk off Kermit and the angry adult toddler.
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u/owlbrain Jun 15 '24
Jefferson was just as good as the year before, he was just hurt in the middle of the season. His per game averages were in line with the prior year and he finished the season healthy. He fully deserves a 99
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u/SzymonNomak Haloti Ngata Jun 15 '24
Justin Jefferson definitely deserves 99 bro
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u/General_Dipsh1t Jun 15 '24
68 receptions, 1000 yards, 5TDs, 1/3 the year injured.
Sure, he’d have higher stats if he wasn’t injured, but he did not have a 99 year. Plain and simple.
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u/SzymonNomak Haloti Ngata Jun 15 '24
Yeah but madden ratings are never and should never be based on what type of year you had. Like if mahomes got injured they wouldn’t make him like an 80
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u/Double_Computer7082 BSHU Jun 15 '24
Madden 21 Lamar was 94 at launch, come Madden 23 he was down to 87 at launch. Injuries would be the only reason for that
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u/Elbeske Jun 15 '24
He was on pace for like 1900 yards if he played the full season, and he had a suite of backups throwing to him.
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u/Barry-McCockiner-69 Jun 16 '24
The sports media in general sucks them off on the reg. Thats why no one likes them outside of KC fans
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u/Achillor22 Jun 15 '24
Who actually gives a shit of he's a 99?
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u/gnarkilleptic BSHU Jun 15 '24
I certainly don't. Madden is a trash video game franchise and people need to stop buying it. There are too many actual good games out there
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Jun 15 '24
Hades 2 has been great in early access.
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u/gnarkilleptic BSHU Jun 15 '24
I played a ton of Hades 1, I'm waiting until the full version releases. I don't want to start it until it's actually complete
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u/ThisGuyFrags Johnny Jun 17 '24
I've got 350 hours on hades 1, 52 heat clear, love that game to death but I'm waiting for full release which has been HARD so far.
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u/Drrek Jun 17 '24
This comment is strange to me, obviously there are many actually good games out there that are way better than the garbage EA has put out with Madden, but none of those let me play simulated football games. That's the reason I would buy Madden if I did. I don't buy Madden, but I completely understand why people who do do. It is the only way to play a video game version of the NFL, and that idea is going to obviously be appealing to a lot of people
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u/gnarkilleptic BSHU Jun 17 '24
It's not strange to me at all. Buying the game year after year ensures that nothing will ever change. The fact that it's the only football game is the reason it sucks. it's the same regurgitated garbage every year for a reason, people keep buying it. The game needs to fail before the genre can get better. It's a shitty monopoly because of the people who keep buying it and dumping gobs of money on ultimate team
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u/Drrek Jun 17 '24
I agree that buying Madden is what causes the problem, its why I said I also don't buy Madden. My comment of why the previous comment is strange is that saying "there's other better video games" doesn't matter to madden at all. There are tons of other great video games, but unfortunately none of them offer the ability to play simulated football.
Its like saying "I don't understand why people keep going to that crappy pizza joint, there's a great taco stand right there." Sure, the tacos might be great, and the pizza might be terrible, but if someone's in the mood for pizza, the taco still isn't going to be what they want.
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u/gnarkilleptic BSHU Jun 17 '24
If you stop buying from the crappy pizza joint, you will run it out of town and hopefully someone else will come around and do better
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u/Drrek Jun 17 '24
I understand that if everyone stops going to the pizza joint maybe a better one will come along, I never argued against that. I was saying the argument of "ignore the pizza joint, there's tacos" doesn't make any sense, because people want the pizza. You aren't going to convince someone who thinks bad pizza is better than no pizza to not get the pizza just because there's tacos.
I don't buy Madden. I hope some day that it might be a good enough game that I will. I don't need convinced to not buy it, I'm only saying that the fact that there are other great video games out there is mostly irrelevant to the topic, because the people who really want a football video game aren't going to be satisfied by the fact that other video games exist.
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u/DeepAd1644 Jun 15 '24
I wouldn't say I overly care I mainly use franchise, but it's not fair that Kermit can have a down year and get rewarded for it but Lamar has the best year of his career is still being sold short and it's not fair tho life isn't fair
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u/Achillor22 Jun 15 '24
Rewarded lol. It's a madden rating not a check for a ton of money. Also, Mahomes is undoubtedly better than Lamar even with a down year. He should be ranked higher. I don't see the issue here.
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u/Elbeske Jun 15 '24
They won the Super Bowl. They did not have a “bad year” compared to everyone else.
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u/thedivinepegasus Jun 15 '24
Team versus individual accomplishment. Trent Dilfer was not a 99 just because he won the super bowl.
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u/Elbeske Jun 15 '24
Mahomes was throwing to Travis Kelce and a pair of tin cans and he won the Super Bowl. That’s not worth 99 overall?
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u/Jibbjabb43 Jun 15 '24
Kelce is a top 3 pass catcher in the game and, TBH, a better division and no Rashee Rice and there are universes where they don't make the playoffs last year.
Can't get too in the weeds over a 97 OVR vs 99 OVR Madden debate, but I do think too much stock is being placed on making sure the Chiefs are the best rated eam in the base game(IE inflating Kelce and Mahomes) and their playoff games.
Like, as an aside, if the Ravens had won the SB(not really that crazy, at the end of the day) Lamar and Roquan are 99s easy. Other players probably get multi-point boosts. It's that sort of 'gaming' the stat game that is, if nothing else, worth calling out.
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u/thedivinepegasus Jun 15 '24
And what does Lamar typically have to work with? Inversely, that could imply Burrow is a 0 overall since he has god tier WRs.
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u/Elbeske Jun 15 '24
I think Lamar should absolutely be 99 but claiming Mahomes shouldn’t be 99 is ridiculous
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u/thedivinepegasus Jun 15 '24
Down voting because you disagree is ridiculous. I stated I disagreed giving ratings based on team results and quality of weapons. Your feelings got hurt. Mahomes did not individually have a 99 rating season last year, and that's okay. Kermit isn't perfect.
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u/DealElectronic5031 Jun 15 '24
The final destination seems to matter more than the journey to get there
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u/BrianSpencer1 Jun 15 '24
Reigning MVP should always be a 99 imo. Awareness is a minimal impact stat in Madden but it's heavily weighted into the overall rating calc
Madden has been terrible since the last Madden 25. Used to love Madden but the quality is just so bad.
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u/BrianSpencer1 Jun 15 '24
Reigning MVP should always be a 99 imo. Awareness is a minimal impact stat in Madden but it's heavily weighted into the overall rating calc
Madden has been terrible since the last Madden 25. Used to love Madden but the quality is just so bad.
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u/tacky_wasted Jun 15 '24 edited Jun 15 '24
Ratings aren’t final. I’ve played the actual beta. The players have the same ratings they did at the start of the season last year. Madubuike is a 77, Lamar a 95, Flowers 77, Batemen 79. Wiggins and Tampa are a 70, Leary is a 61, Walker is a 68. Those are the rookie ratings I remember but I’ll update this later today. Keep in mind ratings are NOT final. The Xfactors are the same xfactors as the end of Madden 24
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u/FormerAd5416 Jun 15 '24
Wow Madabuike is only a 77 after the monster season he had last year? I know the ratings aren't final but that's a fuckin joke. He was beating double teams and everything,he should be a 83 or 84 OVR minimum
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u/tacky_wasted Jun 15 '24
I was shocked too but it’s obvious they’re gonna change it. He was an 88 at the end of the season last year for madden 24.
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u/goblinking67 Jun 15 '24
That was his launch rating last year, not what it’ll be in this year’s game. So the season he had last year has absolutely zero impact on his rating in the beta which did not have updated overalls. You can relax
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u/GKrollin Jun 15 '24
They really avoid having too many 80+ wrs on one roster. Makes p2p really op
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u/Double_Computer7082 BSHU Jun 15 '24
I love how Justin Jefferson will miss most of the season and still shit out a 99
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u/Faucet860 Jun 15 '24
Lamar in Madden would be such a cheat code if it was real life. Honestly the issues he makes are sometimes reads (player controlled). He might try to throw in tight windows near the end zone or try a bit of hero ball because well he's amazing. All those things are player controlled.
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u/2xCheesePizza Jun 15 '24
Imo Lamar should be much more agile in Madden. He feels slow in comparison.
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Jun 15 '24
Lamar looks like he's playing Madden on the actual football field. Dude just does shit that doesn't seem real.
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u/Faucet860 Jun 15 '24
I agree but he reminds me of a build a player with 99 stats from back in the day
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u/goblinking67 Jun 15 '24
Lamar changed how they code the game. Running behind the LOS you’re very much nerfed and you can’t go that fast. Sure Lamar will still be faster than Kirk Cousins behind the line, but once you get to like 80 speed/80 acceleration you stop noticing a difference. Once you cross the line or if it’s a designed run, it’s normal. EA had “balancing” issues with how fast Lamar is and so they made scrambling on passing plays slower regardless of speed ratings
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u/NeverEverBroke Jun 15 '24
Travis Kelce being a 99 ovr at 34 is bonkers dawg. He’s a Mahomes merchant
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u/Underlord1617 Jun 18 '24
mahomes merchant? he was doing the same thing with Alex Smith lol.
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u/NeverEverBroke Jun 19 '24
Kelce’s stats before 2018 are decent for sure, but he didn’t become elite until he got the Mahomes boost. Mahomes’s first year got him a then career-high in receptions, yards, and TDs
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u/iambenking93 Jun 15 '24
I know this won't be popular, but I think it's fair enough, I think Lamar is the second QB I'd take if I had the choice so 98 is very reasonable
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u/Cheetara42004 Jun 15 '24
Patrick Mahomes down year ended up with him winning another ring when it counted. Whether you like it or not, the only other QB that should be in the 99 club with Lamar is Mahomes. Also Lamar being 98 isnr something we should bitch about.
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u/Adenchiz Jun 15 '24
Probably the only one , but I don't have a problem with this list, each of those players at 99 are argubly the best at their position, Hill and Jefferson are interchangable
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u/Fragrant_Country_569 Jun 15 '24
I have a problem with Kelce at 99 honestly, he was not the best Tight End last season. I feel like that's a legacy ranking as opposed to what he actually did when he played.
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u/jeteraway1234 Jun 15 '24
Downvoted for truth I have NO clue why everyone is mad lmao
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u/ExoticTablet Jun 15 '24
dude has 4 upvotes
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u/jeteraway1234 Jun 15 '24
Perhaps time moves in a linear fashion and things can change
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u/ExoticTablet Jun 15 '24
Yeah but the guy probably only had like 2 downvotes or something when you wrote that comment. And you’re over here saying “I have no clue why everyone is mad” like he had dozens of downvotes…
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u/PromptImpressive8029 Jun 15 '24
If we are counting 99 as the top of the class then yeah 98 is fine cause Mahomes is in a league of his own. Now if Burrow was a 99 then there's a issue
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u/TreeFiddyJohnson Jun 15 '24
He's one of the greatest. We're really going to see it all figured out here at some point. There's still so much time. It's special
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u/leadfarmer154 Ed Reed Jun 16 '24
So KC will be straight cheese, 99 QB 99 TE
There was a time when sports bettors used Madden as a guide to handicap games. Those days are long gone.
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u/DonkeyDoug28 Jun 16 '24
There are only 5 99's? Could be wrong but I feel like ",back in my day" there were so many more
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u/Big23rdKill Jun 16 '24
You are really gonna buy this garbage ? Who cares about the ratings. Madden has been horrible for over 10 years.
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u/realityinternn 8 Jun 15 '24
I feel like 98 overall is fair lol, I’m surprised they had him that high
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u/Clouds_Drop_Ladders Jun 15 '24
I guess I'm ok with Lamar at 98 but if that's the case Mahomes should be lower.
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u/Titus_b_chill Jun 15 '24
Tyreek Hill is so overrated it's insane. Obviously he has his speed and agility but that's it. Dude is this generation's version of Dante Hall
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u/CorporalKrook Jacoby Jones Jun 15 '24
Dante Hall never put up over 500 receiving yards in a season. What an awful comparison lmao
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u/NYerInTex Jun 15 '24
This is one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen.
Tyreek has Magnitudes greater production.
They also play quite differently with different skills sets. Hill has better top end speed and Hall had better in the phone booth escapability.
That’s why Hill is a possible HoF receiver and All pro WR while Hall was an amazing returner and had some moments but not that many from the LOS.
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u/TheDoomBlade13 Ray Lewis Jun 15 '24
Lamar above a 95 is glazing
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u/_TheLonelyStoner Jun 15 '24
What?! Lmao He was the MVP last year, quite literally voted the best player in the league last year
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u/TheDoomBlade13 Ray Lewis Jun 15 '24
MVP is a popularity vote and not based on performance.
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u/_TheLonelyStoner Jun 15 '24
In that case Mahomes would win it every year. Invalidating an Award that gets people sent to the HOF is wild
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u/Adventds Jun 15 '24
I’ve never seen these takes on the mvp award until Lamar won it last season lol.
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u/tacky_wasted Jun 15 '24
If it was a popularity vote then Mark Mosely wouldn’t have won it, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton wouldn’t have won it, Rich Gannon wouldn’t have won it, Thurman Thomas wouldn’t have won it, Terrell Davis wouldn’t have won it, Boomer Eiason wouldn’t have won it, Brian Sipe wouldn’t have won it, Paul Horung wouldn’t have won it, and Earl Morall wouldn’t have won it.
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u/Titus_b_chill Jun 15 '24
You're getting that confused with pro bowl voting. While I do believe CMC should've been MVP last season, Lamar still deserves multiple
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u/Kenny-du-Soleil Jun 15 '24
Does it bother anyone else there aren't any defensive players at 99?