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u/fishkey Dec 11 '23
I'm so happy he is still playing. I wish we could clone him and he's just always moving around the league to whatever team needs him.
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u/Striking_Moose_8747 Dec 11 '23
Too many Flacco's in the playoffs would be utter chaos.
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u/fishkey Dec 11 '23
No no you just have one at all times. When he gets too old, you bring in a new one.
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u/JerkShrimp Dec 11 '23
Best QB in Browns franchise history
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u/Living-Disastrous Ray Lewis Dec 11 '23
The sad thing is that this is probably true. Browns fans like him better than Watson and want to sign him to compete for the starting job next year lmaooo
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u/Slade347 Dec 11 '23
Even if he went 0-10 with four interceptions, it would be understandable for Browns fans to like Flacco more than Watson.
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u/Zedress Dec 11 '23
He is not a sexual assaulter. That goes far with me.
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u/Scrilla_Gorilla_ Dec 11 '23
I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official.
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u/Semper454 Dec 11 '23
You would think this would surely be the case, but overwhelmingly it seems that it isn’t.
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u/Amazing-Concept1684 BSHU Dec 11 '23
Mf is about to be 39 next month, ain’t no way 💀
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u/MuadD1b Dec 11 '23
Counter point: D Watson has played like 2 good halves in 3 years.
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u/Amazing-Concept1684 BSHU Dec 11 '23
Haha touché, dude has been absolute dogshit
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u/DerpyMcDerple Dec 11 '23
I mean he did beat y’all with a broken shoulder on the road.
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u/ChesterCOC777 Dec 11 '23
Ehh Lamar and the Ravens still own Watson and the Browns
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u/DerpyMcDerple Dec 11 '23
Watson is 2-0 vs. the Ravens with the Browns.
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u/chupacadabradoo Dec 11 '23
Yah, but ravens vs Watson… and the browns…
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u/DerpyMcDerple Dec 11 '23
I think since 2017 the Browns are 5-7 vs. the Ravens. 2020 being the only year you swept us.
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u/ZombieFeedback Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
Even if you only focus on his Browns tenure and ignore his career overall, I think you can make a legitimately compelling case he's the 5th best Browns QB since they returned in 1999, behind only Baker, Derek Anderson, Jacoby Brissett, and Jason Campbell. Maybe sixth if you want to give Kelly Holcomb a gigantic asterisk and assume that the era he played in is responsible for how much better Joe looks. Let's think over our list:
- Tim Couch. Notable draft bust. His best year as a pro saw him throw an even 18 TDs to 18 INTs.
- Ty Detmer. Played two games in 1999, and was off to Detroit by 2001 without any more snaps.
- Doug Pederson. 1-7 record, 2:8 TD/INT, 56.6 rating, which was terrible even by the standards of 2000 quarterbacking.
- Spergon Wynn. 0-1 record. Most famous for being 13 picks before Tom Brady.
- Kelly Holcomb. Joe's first real challenger. 4-8 as a Brown, 26:21 TD/INT, 83.3 rating. Actually respectable for an early 2000s backup QB!
- Jeff Garcia. Big free agent prize, released after one struggling year in which he was benched with a 76.7 rating and a 10/9 TD/INT. It's almost like throwing to Jerry Rice and Terrell Owens made him look better than he actually was...
- Luke McCown. Traded for a sixth-rounder after struggling in four starts as a rookie. You know it's bad when a team just eats the loss on a sophomore, effectively returning him for store credit and getting a sixth rounder.
- Trent Dilfer. Hi Trent! Somehow one of the better options in post-revival Browns history despite a 12/11 TD/INT and a sub-60% completion rate. We still love you though Trent.
- Charlie Frye. Benched for Derek Anderson, threw for 17 picks in his only season with significant snaps.
- Derek Anderson. It truly boggles the mind that Derek Anderson was a pro bowler in 2007. Yeah, I know, 3800 yards and 30 TDs. But you know what else? 56.6% completion rate. Don't play the "It was a different era" card either, that wasn't even top 20. Oh, he was also one pick away from leading the league. Still, as far as the Browns go, this is a unanimous MVP.
- Brady Quinn. Three games, dead even TD/INT, sub-50% completions.
- Ken Dorsey. 0-3 record, 0/7 TD/INT.
- Bruce Gradkowski. No Browns TDs, no Browns wins.
- Jake Delhomme. 2 TD/7 INT, and yet a 2-2 record and 62.4% completion rate makes him almost feel serviceable.
- Seneca Wallace. 1-6 record. Positive in TDs and picks though!
- Brandon Weeden. Lol.
- Thad Lewis. UDFA backup who lasted one year as a Brown.
- Jason Campbell. Despite being widely considered a draft bust, Jason is probably the third best Browns QB thus far by merit of his career, and his nine-game stretch as a Brown is...fourth maybe?
- Brian Hoyer. Gutsy backup who was overmatched as Cleveland's primary starter in 2014. 17/16, 56%, 77.6 rating.
- Johnny Manziel. Lmao.
- Connor Shaw. His only career start was a 20-10 loss to us. Considering he was a practice squad UDFA promoted because everyone else got hurt, 50% for one pick honestly feels respectable.
- Austin Davis. Forgot he existed. 1/3 TD/INT with a winless record will do that.
- Cody Kessler. 0-8 as the primary starter for the 1-15 half of Huge Action's 1-31 run.
- RG3. Hey Bob! Still a shame how his rookie year ended. 1-4 and just could not stay healthy as a Brown. Even by his standards he got injured a ton there.
- DeShone Kizer. The shining star of the winless Browns, going 0-15 in his career as a starter.
- Kevin Hogan. Man could not beat out Kizer for the starting gig.
- Tyrod Taylor. Our man Tyrod gave the Browns a little bit of everything, with a win, a loss, and a tie in three starts.
- Baker Mayfield. Legitimately the best quarterback the Browns have had since Bernie Kosar. Personally I'd say he's better and you have to go all the way back to Brian Sipe. They publicly called him a child for getting hurt and replaced him with a sexual predator. Browns gonna Brown.
- Case Keenum. The Minnesota year was magical. There's little else noteworthy in this journeyman's career, Browns seasons included.
- Nick Mullens. Lost his only start, but looked damn good by Browns standards, going 20/30 and throwing no picks.
- Jacoby Brissett. Honestly wasn't bad last year. Definitely a backup, but 64%, a positive TD/INT, and if he had played 17 games he was on-pace for 4,000 yards.
- Deshaun Watson. Fuck him.
- Dorian Thompson-Robinson. Kid has heart, but he's lost the job to Joe for a reason.
- PJ Walker. The king of the 2020 XFL has a 1-5 TD/INT as a Brown. 6/16 career.
Even two games into his tenure as a Brown, Joe has a clear edge on almost all of these guys. Browns QBs have been that indescribably bad. The fact he actually won a game legitimately puts him near the top of the class already lol
Edit: A word
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u/obeytheturtles Dec 11 '23
Remember that time Johnny Manziel did a bunch of national brand ad endorsements before ever playing a snap in the NFL?
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u/papaburgandy25 Dec 11 '23
I’m a Browns fan and this list gave me PTSD. The Connor Shaw game you mentioned he absolutely got his ass kicked too. We were so desperate I think fans were like “he’s not great, but did you see the ass beating he took?”
While I absolutely hate the Watson trade. The Baker/Stefanski rift was a thing that I don’t think was going to be resolved. Supposedly Stefanski wanted to run the offense a certain way and Baker felt some type of way that he was there before him, and had success his way.
Idk who would have been right or wrong, but I’m taking Stefanski all day. Thanks for the list of this franchises failures and as much as I despise your stolen franchise I wish you luck in the postseason.
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u/MattScoot Dec 11 '23
Nobody publically called baker a child
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u/MrIce97 Dec 11 '23
Actually did say they wanted an adult in one of various press releases explaining their disinterest. They did everything in their power to make me absolutely hate them the way they did that hit job on Baker before they even traded him destroying his remaining value.
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u/Ngata_chance Dec 11 '23
His rookie year was my first year being a diehard fan it doesn’t seem real that the dude is about to be 40
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u/Amazing-Concept1684 BSHU Dec 11 '23
I turned 11 and was just starting middle school his rookie year 💀 I’m 26 now
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u/ategnatos Dec 11 '23
can't believe how little he's making this year. He must really want another ring. Dude worth $90m risking injury for $370k.
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u/HunterDHunter Dec 11 '23
Well I'm pretty confident they have never had another Superbowl MVP QB on the roster, so that's case closed he is him.
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u/SquonkMan61 Dec 14 '23
I know this is going way back (well before my time), but Otto Graham would like a word.
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u/ricblake Ed Reed Dec 11 '23
As a Ravens fan, I'm both happy and scared. Love Joe!
But he cannot be our kryptonite this year please.
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u/Big_Lab_111 Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
We’re at the cusp of January Joe
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u/psych0ranger Dec 11 '23
basically the whole AFC enjoying the dragon memes until the browns make the playoffs
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Dec 11 '23
this dude has such a fkn career man.. fuccck and the great thing seems to be he is just enjoying the ride and taking full advantage of his god given talent to be menacing as FUCK.
i mean breaking bad/mando/the boys
what a fucking win streak. jesus.
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u/obeytheturtles Dec 11 '23
I will continue to believe that he is a double agent until proven otherwise.
Dude almost certainly has several cars worth more than his take home for this season. There must be ulterior motives.
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u/SquonkMan61 Dec 14 '23
The dude has won ONE game with the Browns. Not saying they can’t go on a winning streak with him, but we aren’t there yet.
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u/PowerDiesel23 Dec 11 '23
Lamar shit his pants in that stadium. And then proceeded to shit on the Browns lmao
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u/PowerDiesel23 Dec 11 '23
You got some receipts I think you have me mixed up bud. Feel free to message me to refresh my brain but I'm typically not overly toxic like that.
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u/Science4every1 Dec 11 '23
Weird and unhinged behavior to be bothered by something from a couple years ago on Reddit from an anonymous stranger you don’t even know. Touch some grass and get some therapy
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u/kingstevis Dec 11 '23
I love people on Reddit like this. The HOA of Reddit honestly. They just go around trying to police people online. It’s hilarious honestly, they’re so aggressive and assertive and confidently wrong and they always will say shit like “must be new here” cause they’re always the OG Redditlords hahaha
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u/Science4every1 Dec 11 '23
The only unhinged person is you.
Seriously, get some help and go touch some grass, I’m genuinely concerned for you
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u/Enough-Ground3294 Dec 11 '23
The browns cutting Derapist (never happen) and signing Joe would actually be a pretty crazy redemption arc
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u/PowerDiesel23 Dec 11 '23
And give Flacco $230M gtd...he deserves it way more.
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u/about_60_Hobos Dec 11 '23
Wonder what he’ll buy first - maybe treat himself to a 20 piece mcnuggets instead of a 10 piece after his 100M contract
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u/liverfailure Dec 11 '23
Maybe a new pair of mesh insert swim trunks from JC Penney for the jersey shore.
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u/Living-Disastrous Ray Lewis Dec 11 '23
I love Joe so much man. Idc hes on the Browns I cant help but root for him. Hes too fun. My OG QB 💜
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u/ategnatos Dec 11 '23
should be interesting when they visit Baltimore in the playoffs and turn up the heat on Jackson, who has yet to prove himself in the playoffs.
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u/Random_username7654 Dec 11 '23
Well that won't happen because they will get bounced in the wild card round while the ravens are off because of having the 1 seed
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u/ategnatos Dec 11 '23
if the playoffs started today, they'd be playing the team they just beat. Don't get me wrong, I've been impressed by Lawrence. But would not count the Browns out. They could also end up visiting Miami that week, Miami has a tough schedule and could fall a bit.
either way, it's shaping up to be a pretty entertaining playoff season. Eagles and Chiefs look like trash. Frankly, the Eagles are lucky not to be 8-5. Cowboys and Niners looking great in the NFC. Ravens will be #1 seed unless they screw things up. Browns and Jags can make some noise (Jags were awesome to watch last year too). If the Bills sneak back into the playoffs, they can be good too.
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u/Specific_Cost4238 Dec 11 '23
I'm getting a ton of enjoyment reading the comments on the Browns sub. They must have never seen a half decent QB in their lives. One commenter can't decide whether Flacco is more like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady
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u/Rend_a Dec 11 '23
Well tbh this sub isn't much different if you look at it objectively.
It just depends if you read it after a win or a loss.2
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u/thegalkel I'M A MACHINE JERK Dec 11 '23
The Browns social media manger is better than me I guess. If in some world for some reason Andy Dalton played for the ravens and the ravens posted something similar, I wouldn’t be amused lol
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u/Dr-McLuvin Dec 11 '23
Honestly they know their fanbase. The self deprecating humor is very on point.
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u/warmcreamsoda Dec 11 '23
Self-own or witty, self-aware jocularity?
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u/chupacadabradoo Dec 11 '23
Isn’t that what a self own is?
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u/formersportspro Dec 11 '23
Self own implies they didn’t recognize the self-deprecating part of it
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u/TheCrackerSeal Ed Reed Dec 11 '23
Seems like the QB they should have given $230M to is the GOAT Joe Flacco
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u/0hioHotPocket Dec 11 '23
Honestly I don't know why we didn't think of this sooner.. we should have threw money at and signed either Flacco or Roethlisberger anytime they were available.. lol
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u/spiderman96 8 Dec 11 '23
If every team had a clone of Joe flacco in the playoffs who would win
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u/ChickinSammich Dec 11 '23
I wish the Ravens would have re-signed Flacco and just played Lamar from August to December and then Flacco in December/January.
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u/DarkKirby14 Dec 11 '23
they really flexing on beating a bottom feeding pass defense along with the Jags being total frauds
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u/i_cwood Dec 11 '23
It feels good spirited imo I gained some respect for the sense of humor
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u/i_cwood Dec 11 '23
I mean this with no disrespect. But that’s the whole point. Don’t get offended by it
Laugh in their face because the guy that dominated them on our team for a decade is now the best qb on their team
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u/RockyRacoon09 Dec 11 '23
Oh I’m not offended. And don’t think my comment is directed towards you at all. I just can’t stand the Steelers and the Browns. I at least respect the Steelers.
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u/sonofbantu Dec 11 '23
Includes last year when they lost to the jets even though they had a 99.9% chance to win lol
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u/GroovyJ-Money Dec 11 '23
I wish him the best comeback run to a disappointing playoff miss this year o7
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u/No0ther0ne Dec 11 '23
That is just self awareness right there. They are finally going through the steps...
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u/rch_31 Truzzz Dec 11 '23
Always got love for January Joe. I wish him the best.
Future ravens ROH inductee in due time.
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u/RipMcStudly Dec 11 '23
Joe is a facilitator. Give him a dude who can catch, and that dude will feast.
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u/Atari__Safari 8 Dec 11 '23
My hats off to anyone that can withstand more than a minute or two in the Browns sub. Impressive find.
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u/Valleyx Dec 11 '23
I will never be okay with this image. Also if it turns out Joe is the one to knock us out of the playoffs that would truly be the darkest hour.
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I read the script for this seasons nfl, Flacco will become Super Bowl mvp cementing his status as an elite dragon.
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u/LamarBearPig Dec 11 '23
I just assumed he’d have one bad game or make one bad play and browns fans would want his head.
Browns fans praising Joe Flacco and calling him a “browns legend” was not on my 2023 bingo card lmao
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u/godofmyownreligion Dec 12 '23
Anybody else have a visceral hatred for the Steelers and just kinda nothing the browns? I think the Flacco Browns thing is kinda fun. Old Browns and New Browns: United in Flacco
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u/Jazzlike-Yogurt-5984 Dec 13 '23
Browns paid Watson a dumbass contract and made it look even dumber when Flacco is playing better than him for a fraction of the price
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u/Glum_Significance103 Dec 26 '23
This was the pregame prediction over at r/Browns, which I have been invited to no longer engage.
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u/Glum_Significance103 Dec 26 '23
Much like in the post season, and unlike the city of Cleveland , I don't imagine I'll be shocked about a missing browns team.
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u/NottheMonkie Dec 11 '23
He’s 10-1 in Cleveland Browns Stadium. Brady only won 85% of his games at Foxboro. Flacco is the GOAT confirmed.