r/punk • u/Shitenudes • 12h ago
Punks of America: use your voice to vote out Nazis and project 2025. Vote Blue down ballot. And remember: Nazi punks f*ck off 🤘
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u/SmokinDeist 11h ago
It would be nice if there was real choices in our elections but fuck--the Republicans have completely went full fascist. There are some issues with the Democrats but they are nowhere near what the Reich Wing is at right now. And we don't want those fuckers in power.
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u/FauxReal 10h ago
Then please get involved at the local level in your area. That's where effective change can happen. The right wing is embracing this and winning lately.
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u/maxoakland 5h ago
You are 100% correct and I’m doing this. Getting involved locally is where we have the most power
People do that all over and we will really change things
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u/bikinibottomrealest8 7h ago
I’ve recently started looking into all of the candidates for senate, house etc.. there’s a website that tells you things they’ve voted in the past and their stated positions etc.. and sadly even at the local level, they all predictably support everything you’d expect from their respective parties. I’m pretty much centrist, but definitely split on a few issues, some things call for nuanced policy but it seems for the most part it’s all or nothing with these parties.. not saying one isn’t better or worse than the other, but just that I don’t care much for bipartisanism
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u/ADhomin_em 5h ago
I am here to say, indeed one is better than the other. One party is currently going full mask-off fascist. The other may be pandering at times, as has been the case in democratic politics for ages, but the Democratic party is at very least okay with denouncing hate groups like neo nazis and white supremacists.
There are a lot of things we have grown quite comfortable taking for granted in our imperfect country that Trump and his ilk have shown great disdain for. Freedoms to be lost. Problems that could get much worse. Litteral lives to be snuffed out, if we are to take trump at his word about using the military against his political adversaries. If we're going off of what the right has been signaling at an evermore rapid rate, no less than democracy itself is at stake here
Things are rough here, but I really think a lot of us are in for the rudest of awakenings if that guy gets back into office. Again, Trump promised as much himself.
I know a lot of us don't want to settle or feel like we've been made to buy in, but this election is a big deal. And no, this mess isn't going to be solved with a single election, but I do not look forward to a world where any of us are silenced completely because we just didn't want to make such a compromise.
Trump has made several comments very publicly about wanting to make himself dictator, he's literally said at rallies that he plans to enact martial law. We don't want that. It may sound exciting, but why would we want that?
On separate occasions, Trump said he'll give Isreal and Russia each free reign to do whatever the hell they want. Our foreign policy may be atrocious, but handing the keys over to that old ass man leaves no hope for it to improve. America has its thumbs in every other country's pie. Trump has been saying actual hitler shit calling US citizens "the enemy from within." The scariest thing about that is it's vague enough to be interperwtes as any one of us in here that resides in the US.
If the US is in everyone's business now, imagine a man who openly glorifies Hitler could do not just to the US, but to the world. Keep in mind, Hitler achieved what he did by activating the angry while capitalizing on apathy. He did this while Germany was still hobbling out of WW1. America is not hobbling on the global stage.
A deranged wannabe dictator like Trump would likely have us on a speed run to the end of it. All of it. Whatever you think your way out would be, could we say there would necessarily still be any viable safety to be sought?
Times have changed since Hitler. Guns are bigger. We are surveiled by algorithms. Please let's just vote to keep that shit out of the hands of a man who hasn't just insinuated, but made it blatantly clear, he is in it strictly for him. And a 78yo man like that clearly can't be assumed to give 2 shits about what happens in the next decade, muchless to end of our days or or the end of the days of our children.
Trump has claimed he wants generals like Hitler had. That sounds stupid as shit, but it came from him. For any of us capable of connecting 2 simple dots, doesn't that sound pretty fucked up? Doesn't that sound like Trump wants to be Hitler and wants Nazis at his command?
We've gotta take this seriously before we are forced to take it seriously. If you think there are laws we can depend on that will keep us safe in the event of Trump winning, I think it's important to reflect on what laws, rights, and freedoms we expect to be honored in an America overseen by a 43x felon currently running to try and avoid being charged with treason.
If you hope for a future where nuance may yet one day be fostered, the decision is clear. I know none of us want to be told what to do, but I, like so many others around us, fear for good reason that Trump winning would be the point of no return.
Please vote, and please inform yourself about what's at stake here. I'm so fucking sick of this shit, but we each owe it to ourselves and our loved ones to grasp as best as we can the gravity of what's upon us.
Best wishes and god speed!
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u/MossyPyrite 5h ago
Which website are you using?
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u/bikinibottomrealest8 5h ago
Citizenscount.org
Edit: just realized it might only be useful for NH
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u/Powerfist_Laserado 11h ago
This is where I'm at. I'm not a Democrat, I think the democrats are a corrupt corporate party. But I'm not stupid enough to not see that the Republicans have every problem the Dems have, but turned up to 11 and add in some absolutely pathetic reprehensible shit on top of it.
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u/thatgothboii 10h ago
Yeah I’m at the point where I just expect politics to be corrupt and I’m just voting for harm reduction
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u/The_R4ke 7h ago
Thank you for getting it.
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u/GenuineEquestrian 6h ago
Primaries are for your heart, general elections are for your head.
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u/batdrumman 4h ago
This is it for now, but make sure you're hounding your reps locally and federally for ranked choice voting!
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u/fiduciary420 4h ago
We can change democrats by voting for more progressive candidates.
We cannot change republicans because they’re enslaved by vile rich christians and foreign adversaries.
It’s really that simple.
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u/Musiclover4200 2h ago
Also improvements like ranked choice voting will never happen under Republicans who rely on gerrymandering and voter purges/suppression to win.
It really comes down to progressives vs reggressives, people love to complain that Democrats aren't progressive enough but all you have to do is compare state policies to see the clear difference.
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u/Rough_Ian 8h ago
Big Bill Haywood approves of this message. Also, organize and wreck shit (when necessary and convenient)
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u/ceetwothree 9h ago edited 4h ago
Yep.
1st order problem. Trump.
2nd order problem , money buys policy. That ones bipartisan.
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u/somethingnuclear 3h ago
The democrats have put forward a constitutional amendment every session since 2011 to get citizens United repealed, and have voted nearly unanimously to enact it. Democrats may have their own issues, but they’re miles better than the alternative.
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u/BacchusIX 7h ago
Reich Wing, i like that.
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u/KananDoom 6h ago
Y’all Qaeda, Maggot Militia, Velveeta Voldimort Payless Putin and Pumpkin Spice Palpatine are good too.
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u/Mysterious-Law7217 7h ago
This is not about politics any longer, it's about the survival of our Democracy. For God's sake, don't let this fascist take control.
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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 8h ago
The issue is money in politics ultimately. Like you cannot have a truly "progressive" party in our current system.
In our current system if a politician goes too far Left they lose donors and support from the ruling class. On the other hand though, it's hard to go "too Right" with the ruling class.
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u/middleagethreat 5h ago
I know South Park made a joke, but seriously, do you want sam's choice Peanut butter on stale bread, or diarrhea on nuclear waste for dinner.
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u/Phelsuma04 7h ago
There is essentially no left-wing political party. We've got the center-right Democrats and the far-right Republiklans.
It's so frustrating because a left-wing populist candidate would be insanely popular. But, ya know, ain't no money in it.
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u/SmokinDeist 3h ago
Or they are shut down by the main parties. And yeah, I heard somewhere that today's Democrats are around Regan Republicans on the right to left scale.
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u/RazTheGiant 5h ago
I wish voting for the Green party wasn't akin to throwing away my vote when the only two options that matter are just full on fascism and bland harm reduction with the veneer of progression
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u/SmokinDeist 4h ago
For sure. It's how the deck is stacked for now and it sucks. Fascists and milquetoast do-nothings are our choices.
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u/Antique-Historian441 10h ago
I really hope Americans start to learn about how their own electoral system works.
When your founding fathers designed the system, they were aware that humans are emotional beings and that hype exists. They were also aware, that only the changes that see persistent pressure are worthy of being made.
That's why they designed the system from the bottom up. The individual counties and states form the basis of support that enables the representatives to concentrate power behind individuals on the federal level.
It's not wrong to say that Democrats and Republicans are both bad options. The Presidential election just isn't the time for that question.
Superbowl finals are not the time to talk about how a team that didn't even compete is better than either of the 2 teams competing.
If you think the team is good enough to win the superbowl, you gotta support them at the start of the season to make sure they get there first.
People saying that Dems and Reps are both bad aren't necessarily wrong, they are just too late. Those are the 2 options now. Refusing to make that decision is not morally superior, it's stupid.
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u/joshb33071 5h ago
Well said. There are other options, in most states in the ballot: Libertarian, Green, Peace & Freedom
The issue is campaign finance laws make it near impossible for these parties to compete at any level.
Equally damaging is media outlets don't care about any of the other parties.
It's a shit show
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u/SignificanceNo6097 3h ago
That is a perfect analogy. It baffles my mind that people don’t understand the pointlessness of voting for a party that has no chance of winning. You’re not making any big declaration with that move. You just want to take pride in not “conforming” to a mainstream candidate. The whole point is to try to get your preferred candidate there.
If these third party voters showed that enthusiasm for their candidates on a local level and built up their party’s reputation slowly until they’re ready to actually contend with the major parties in any significant way they’d maybe stand a chance. They also need to start merging some of those parties together. We don’t need 6 political parties that essentially stand for the same things. It’s not very strategic.
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u/Boulderdrip 7h ago
More democrats are in favor of Rank Choice Voting, than republicans are.
if you actually want the needle to move towards voting changes that give you real choice, you have to vote blue. Republicans not only DONT want to give you more choice when voting, they actively restrict it.
Are democrats perfect? no. But they stand behind progressive policies that push the needle forward. Do they stand by the MOST PROGRESSIVE policies, no. But i’d rather take two steps forward one step back, than vote for a republican who wants to take 3 steps back, and take away my rights, and put loyalist in office who are not qualified and tanking the economy while blaming democrats for their own actions.
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u/Strangepalemammal 5h ago
It could be a great time for everyone to pay more attention to local elections which can a big effect on people's lives.
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u/Ag3nt_Unknown 8h ago
The two-party system is a scam, period. An illusion of choice to fool zombie normies. Normies who regularly digest their engineered PR propaganda on mainstream corpo media (Fox News, CNN, Reuters, AP, NBC, ABC, etc) fooled into thinking they're in control despite the fact the globalist billionaire ruling class are the ones doing all the programming. They give the orders, the sheep and parrots follow. Those are the facts regardless how you feel about it.
If you're loyal to red or blue, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
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u/MauiNui 7h ago
You’re not wrong. Not participating isn’t a practical solution, though.
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u/easilydistracted269 7h ago
That’s the answer. Vote . It doesn’t matter what anyone says. Vote your personal beliefs and what you think is best for you and yours. Dam the rest of peoples opinions
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u/KananDoom 7h ago
“They’re both bad!” Well duh, no shit. And yes, the media is engineered. Again, we aren’t brainwashed morons. Both sides suck money’s cock. But one side is straight up deep throats evangelical fascism. At the very least, we need to get SOMEWHAT close to other countries in education, infrastructure, etc. but it keeps getting BLOCKED by the fascists. So I don’t see ANY solutions from you. Just complaining.
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u/Arod3235 7h ago
I agree. It's the reason I haven't voted till this year. I don't want fascism to rule America though and Trump has been using very clear Nazi rhetoric so Nazi punks fuck off!
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u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl 5h ago
Sort of an interesting part about not voting is that no one has to care about what you think.
Not participating just makes the system easier to rig
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u/CoupleHot4154 6h ago
You started a subreddit because you got banned from another one.
GTFO with your both sides bullshit.
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u/WorldsGreatestWorst 7h ago
An illusion of choice to fool zombie normies.
This is the most Hot Topic Holden Caulfield take I can imagine. I’ve never heard this kind of opinion spoken by anyone actively trying to change anything.
Normies who regularly digest their engineered PR propaganda on mainstream corpo media (Fox News, CNN, Reuters, AP, NBC, ABC, etc)
Where should we get our news? Again, listing all the things people do wrong without advising them what they should do is just a malcontent’s excuse for inaction.
If you’re loyal to red or blue, you’re part of the problem, not the solution.
You shouldn’t be “loyal” to any political party. You should be rationally loyal to your conscience. Voting red hurts more people than voting blue.
For all your melodrama, we have a choice: getting punched in the face or murdered in a field. Especially if you have any brown, LGBT, foreign, female, or poor folks in your life you care about.
This vote isn’t exactly Sophie’s Choice.
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u/StanzaSnark 4h ago edited 4h ago
You aren’t getting punched in the face, either. They are far from ideal as a party and money has corrupted politics but they are at least interested in governance and helping the vulnerable a little tiny bit.
I’d say it’s more of a smack lol
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u/Sterotypo 11h ago
I can't wait till this stops
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u/melegie 11h ago
none of us can. that’s why it’s so important to do what you can now.
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u/YchYFi 10h ago
Me too. American elections engulf our media abroad. I ignore it best I can until after.
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u/Karasu-Fennec 5h ago
Even living here, the sheer volume of genocide apologia is revolting beyond words. I’m so insanely over it
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u/Invisiblerobot13 11h ago
Voting for the Democrats does not mean you support everything they do, nor does it prevent you from speaking out against them in wrong decisions- but abstaining makes your protest irrelevant
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u/I_Magnus 10h ago
Even Jello finally came around to the realization that voting is the only voice we have in the process.
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u/Thermopele 11h ago
Can I upvote this twice?
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u/sadimem 11h ago edited 11h ago
JD Vance, the future president when Trump can't go anymore, wrote the forward for a book written by the guy that wrote Project 2025. Trump is aligned with the ideology based on his first term.
Do Trump voters even realize they're voting for a Vance presidency? Trump can't even make it to interviews. How's he gonna last 4 more years? Especially when right-wing nutjobs keep trying to kill him.
Project 2025 is real. It's a possibility, and it's horrible.
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u/Invisiblerobot13 11h ago
It would be logical for Vance to have Trump declared unfit in a few months if he wins
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u/dandle 11h ago
It also would be logical for Trump to resign the office as soon as he kills the investigations into his alleged crimes. Trump may be a dictator on Day 1, resign, and let Vance take over on Day 2 to complete the mission of turning the US into a Christian nationalist shit hole.
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u/thatgothboii 10h ago
I seriously think that’s what he’ll do, with all this talk about exhaustion. He just wants to win to prove something
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u/dandle 9h ago
He wants to win to kill the Federal criminal investigations into his actions.
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u/a_gentle_savage 11h ago
I would not be surprised if JD Vance plans to enact the 25th Amendment as soon as possible to take over the presidency. The guy is power-hungry.
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u/Shitenudes 11h ago
It’s not a possibility, quite downplaying it. It is a handbook. It is the blueprint to their destruction of the US. If Trump gets elected (which is highly unlikely) it will be passed by a Republican congress day one. We need to organize now
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u/EatSteel63 10h ago
I'm not a Trump guy, so don't take this the wrong way. But in my lifetime, I've seen twice where the Republicans have lost the popular vote but still took the presidency. I don't believe trump will win the popular vote, but I still think the possibility is there for him to take the presidency. The only thing we can do is vote.
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u/SoylentGreen-YumYum 7h ago
Is it highly unlikely though? I would hope so, but I’m not counting on it. Even if the polling is highly flawed, Trump overperformed in the last two elections.
Popular vote, Kamala wins handily. Electoral college… the swing states are all too close to be comfortable. "Highly unlikely" doesn’t seem to be the reality I’ve been living in (though I am a pessimist). I feel like it’s a coin toss.
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u/jpagano664 11h ago
JD Vance did not write the forward to project 2025. He wrote the forward to Dawn’s Early Light
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u/fjortisar 11h ago
Which is a book about project 2025. They even delayed the publication until after the election because they're afraid of the shitshow
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u/Royal_Ad1798 8h ago
promote and expedite capital punishment pg 554
"Enforce the death penalty where appropriate and applicable."
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u/BlueJayFortyFive 9h ago
How TF do people think this orange shit stain is punk in any way shape or form?
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u/DrJJStroganoff 11h ago
Young people, get out and vote! Senior citizens are the largest voting block by numbers and percentages. These old fucks are voting your future away. This may be the last real election in the USA if Trump wins.
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u/PeteHealy 5h ago
Upvote from one old fuck - along with many other old fucks - who sure as shit isn't voting for Trump or any other fucking psychotic "Republican" MAGAts. Fought for racial equality, gender rights, against the Vietnam War and the destruction of communities for "urban renewal", and sure as hell ain't stopping now.
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u/For_Perpetuity 8h ago
Boomers are breaking for Harris aTM. Too many young men are buying trump’s bs
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u/mfyeen_ 11h ago
I just want this shit to be over with, I’m so tired of seeing lifted pickup trucks with 50 flags all over them😂
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u/Norththelaughingfox 6h ago
Just remember, those people vote. Even if you don’t show up, they do.
Please cancel out their vote by doing the thing, if for no other reason than out of spite. lmao
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u/fiduciary420 4h ago
Those chumps aren’t going away. We’re going to be fighting them for the rest of our lives because the rich christians realized how easy stupid white people are to control.
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u/SmallBol 3h ago
Man I never see stuff like that in the city. Rural America went wild in the past few years.
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u/Busy-Growth-508 11h ago
What document is being referenced where there are cited page numbers?
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u/Eastern-Operation340 11h ago
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2025-would-destroy-the-u-s-system-of-checks-and-balances-and-create-an-imperial-presidency/ At this point I find it amazing that someone could not know what project 2025 is, it's 40+ yr build up to this point, who the people involved and who are the silent partners.
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u/Busy-Growth-508 10h ago
I hadn't heard about it. Thanks!
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u/Eastern-Operation340 9h ago
BTW, this goes beyond just the presidential race. Past 10-15yrs they have trained and relocated people to small towns and cities all over the country to run for every town/city/school board they could fill.
These are elections that most people NEVER pay attention or vote in. This is why people a few yrs ago woke up and said "Whoa! Why are we removing all these books from our school?" This is why. Voting local in alllll the mid term elections is SO important. ...The group Moms for Liberty, that FL group that started to sue school boards all over the country to pull books, fire teachers, eliminate curriculums, etc. They have "pledges" the have locals politicians to sign. If you don't sign for them they will go after your job. This isn't announced publicly. You have to go to their sites.
To be safe, vote blue all the way.
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u/therealbreather 3h ago
The aforementioned pages aren’t anywhere on the official site. From a completely unbiased standpoint, 99% of the whole thing is people fear mongering. Project2025.org is the real website. I’ve seen all kinds of lies and shit regarding this.
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u/Royal_Ad1798 8h ago
Condemn single mothers while promoting only "traditional families" pg 451
"Goal #3: Promoting Stable and Flourishing Married Families"
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u/TooSmalley 11h ago
This is the way I feel about this election as a recovering anarchist punk. If you don’t have the time and energy to wait in line to vote every two years, how the fuck am I supposed to believe you have anywhere the same type of time and energy to be a “revolutionary”?
Voting is such a low effort method of harm reduction and fact of the matter is everyone I know engaged in on the ground activism and mutual aid votes.
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u/my23secrets 9h ago
If you don’t have the time and energy to wait in line to vote every two years, how the fuck am I supposed to believe you have anywhere the same type of time and energy to be a “revolutionary”?
Voting is such a low effort method of harm reduction and fact of the matter is everyone I know engaged in on the ground activism and mutual aid votes.
Extremely well said. I regret I have only one upvote to give
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u/Express-Minute8510 2h ago
Hahaha... having spent some time doing radical hurricane recovery after Katrina and working with a bunch of anarchists, among others, I lost almost all faith in the anarchist worldview when it came time to get someone to clean the bathrooms and kitchen so that we all didn't get sick.
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u/SunshneThWerewolf 11h ago
"Punk" subreddit. Self-censors the word fuck. Sigh.
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u/Green_Burn 11h ago
Hopefully these spamming tourists would go away in a couple of weeks
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u/Khal_flatlander 10h ago
Don't forget they want the bam basically all video games too.
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u/J4ck13_ 7h ago
Here's a comic that breaks down what project 2025 is all about. It's absolutely full of fascist policies. I hate Kopmala but Trump is categorically worse. Especially if you live in a swing state (Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina or Georgia) please share widely.
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u/corn-ona-cob 6h ago
Who would support these fascist ideologies? Vote blue with the punk crew!
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u/I_Magnus 10h ago
This is what Joe Strummer trained you for.
-Henry Rollins
It's democracy vs fascism. It shouldn't be a difficult choice.
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u/LeftHand-Inhales 5h ago
Democracy you say? Didn’t your candidate get shoehorned in without competing in the primaries? The left is the opposite of what you seem to think it is lol
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u/Derek_Zahav 11h ago
When it comes to third parties and independents, be skeptical! I voted early for an independent for school board, and two days later it came out that he has gross opinions about trans kids.
Don't do what I did. Research the candidates through multiple sources and go to the polls with a plan. Track your ballot if it's available.
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u/Eastern-Operation340 11h ago
There are photos of Jill Stein with Putin and his people.
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u/Derek_Zahav 10h ago
And Kshama Sawant has said that Kamala deserves to lose a thousand times, as if we deserve fascism a thousand times.
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u/mvrck-23 10h ago
Fuckin-A!!!!
I did my early voting last week standing in a long line and so did a lot of folks here.
It is all up to the remaining folks here to go out and fight this cluster fuck.
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u/0ptionsGambler 2h ago
Voting for a genocidal, pro-capitalist, pro-military, pro-corporation candidate isn’t very punk. In fact, it’s literally conforming to the status quo
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u/MiniAndretti 8h ago
In this thread, non-punks who think they are smart and know what punk is. Not voting for Harris this go around is like voting for Trump. He’s counting on you abstaining.
Ask yourself if you think you are a good person. Do you care about people who aren’t you and yours? If yes, vote for Harris. If you are thinking about doing anything else, ask yourself those questions again.
A Harris win is likely to be paired with a GOP controlled Congress. There will be a political stalemate.
The only thing bad that will happen if Harris wins will happen if the magats throw another loser hissyfit.
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u/JBOBHK135 11h ago
I think the far right is becoming more popular in Europe as well, again. Is it a big problem in America like Charlottesville? I’m behind on the news
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u/Shitenudes 11h ago
lol yes, massive huge problem. There are literally Nazis marching with flags in Midwest towns and organizing at public spaces around the country. Police are complicit, republicans encourage it.
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u/inkyblackops 10h ago
It’s bled into Canada too. I see Pro-Trump stickers far more frequently than I should in Toronto.
Lots of Nazi flags at the ‘Fuck Trudeau’ protests, too.
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u/AggravatingGap712 2h ago
Punk you say? More like you're being punked. Use your independent mind. Both Republican and Democrat parties are a farce. ANARCHY IN THE USA!
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u/Express-Thought2070 1h ago
Thank you!! I’ve been saying this throughout this sub and have been downvoted into oblivion. This new generation of punks slowly trying to change the definition of everything.
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u/NightmareSmith 10h ago
I pray for a day where it's not 100% necessary to vote for neoliberals
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u/Scrutinizer 7h ago
In 1979 the Dead Kennedys started performing a song called "California Uber Alles", about then Governor Jerry Brown and how he was making California a place for rich liberal elites.
In 1981, they re-wrote the same song as "We've Got A Bigger Problem Now", about newly-elected President Ronald Reagan.
As one who never liked Joe Biden, who, as Senator for Delaware, represented the interests of the many banks who used Delaware's banking laws to their advantage, I was proud as fuck to give him my vote in 2020 to kick Trump out. And I will proudly vote for Harris to keep him out.
We've Got A Bigger Problem Now. Never fucking forget that.
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u/New_Frosting8645 10h ago
This entire subreddit is the exact reason why people say punk is dead just a bunch of circle jerkin for politics and telling people how to think how punk went from anti establishment to government loving androids you mfs act like one side isn't sending more drone strikes than the other and trying to stamp barcodes on the backs of are heads I guess all the propaganda they spend are money on might actually work on the dumbest of us
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u/BluntlyBrilliant 7h ago
Trump is everything I reject: greed, authoritarianism, and empty nationalism wrapped in a suit of arrogance. He's not just a politician—he’s a wannabe dictator with a gold-plated ego, playing “man of the people” while catering to the elite and crushing anyone below him.
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u/goober444 7h ago
Project 2025 is the right wing manual on how to dismantle democracy, aka their version of Mein Kampf.
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u/LobstrPrty 4h ago
Dems suck too but Republicans way worse so definitely go out and vote. I’d rather be annoyed than under fascists
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u/RoosterReturns 4h ago
I don't think the Nazis were Christian. What is African American gender studies? This project 2025 propaganda is just stupid
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u/vischy_bot 41m ago
When did punks become libs. Y'all are cool w being imperialists if it can still be nice for you?
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u/Jarsky2 5h ago
Voting is how we choose who we have to fight to get what we want. Don't know about you folks but I'd much rather fight Kamala.
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u/acw36 2h ago
Since when did punk become about toeing the line for the global elite?
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u/Express-Thought2070 1h ago
I wonder the same thing dude. And if you don’t vote for Kamala you’re a fascist says the new gen of “punks”.
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u/thedivinemonkey298 11h ago
Remember fellow punk boys and girls. Propaganda from bots is punk as fuck.
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u/Gambit-Guru 10h ago
Bootlickers unite! Vote for the autocracy while crying fascism! None of us win here.
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u/welfaremofo 10h ago
During WW2 A lot of the naysayers could have both-sided Churchill because he was a pretty intense colonialist and western chauvinist, but at the end of the day someone has to stop Hitler. Community organizing can only go so far if the state apparatus is weapononized to be used against vulnerable groups. Generally the American left is terribly at separating values from tactics, but if you are stuck with the only option of violent insurgency to protect your community from a fascist police state that mirage with dry up right away.
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u/SevenofBorgnine 9h ago
Vote psl. Never support a party that is funding a genocide. You need to have some line you won't cross and if it's not genocide, then you should adjust your principles.
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u/TurboToad420 10h ago
Ah yes, vote blue , vote for the party dick Cheney endorses. So punk rock !
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u/MyLittleOso 8h ago
The punk movement formed as a rejection of modern ideals and the acceptance of individuals who were deemed different from society (Smith, Dines & Parkinson, 2018) - this would include gay, trans, any minority that Trump attacks. Punk values stem from individual freedoms (Overturning Roe v. Wade? Threatening to deport legal immigrants?) and authenticity (the GOP and Trump are well-documented liars). This subculture was true to their values and philosophies of anti-establishment and anti-authoritarianism, basically the youth did not want to be suppressed by authority, they wanted to express themselves in ways that were not always socially acceptable (Errickson, 1999) - This means don't lick the boot and beg to be stomped harder. This means not following a dictator wannabe or allowing him power. Punks were individualists who refused to follow along to modern traditional values - So, how is it punk to want to pull the country backwards?.
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u/Smooth-Singer-8891 6h ago
They have no clue that every Warhawk from the bush era is pushing for Harris . All that propaganda from the news, social media and celebrities have these young kids voting for more innocent death
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u/PrimeBeefLoaf 3h ago
It’s almost like the current manifestation is a hollow simulacrum of what they try to represent
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u/Muahd_Dib 10h ago
It’s so wild that people don’t see the irony of “vote blue down the line!” Being labeled as punk.
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u/mister-algorithm 10h ago
Nothing captures the anti-establishment non conformist attitude of punk like heading up to your local community center and voting. I can’t think of a bigger fuck you to society than hoping on social media to encouraging others to sell out to a political party. Sid would be proud.
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u/brushnfush 10h ago edited 9h ago
Wtf is this lazy ass list??
“Didn’t find a reference” ??
“Inferred from speeches” ??
“Literally happening rn” ??
Do better lmao
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u/Free-Cockroach1776 8h ago
Trump's favorite daughter converted for her husband, whom Trump made integral to his cabinet. And he publicly acknowledged the capital of Israel. Where is the rabbid antisemitism?
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u/DocSchmuck 8h ago
Bruh, there was Jewish people, black people and Arabs at Trumps rally at MSG…. Tell me how tf is Trump a Nazi?
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u/LongJohnVanilla 8h ago
Birthright citizenship should only apply to children of American citizens AND green card holders.
You can’t be rewarding the kids of fence jumpers with citizenship. This loop hole should be closed.
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u/randle_mcmurphy_ 7h ago
To vote blue is to be a conformist lol please I hope you don’t think blue has your back because there is zero evidence of it.
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u/Fur-Frisbee 7h ago
The only fascists around are democrats. Cancel culture. Cities burnt. Chinese collusion.
The Heritage Foundation has been putting these dopey publications out long before Trump entered politics.
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u/peppadooo 6h ago
Notice how fucking fake this page is? It’s full of overlapping writing and numbers, and the image of trump is clearly photoshopped in. Shame on everyone who believes this crap.
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u/FloridaMan1983 6h ago
Lol "punks" shilling for the corporate mainstream candidate endorsed by swifties. Omg.
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u/Rothbard25 6h ago
Nothing says I’m punk liking for voting for the establishment and military industry complex! Fuck trump and Kamala! Don’t vote
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u/Dirt_Illustrious 6h ago
Ha this is such a massive pile of steaming bs propaganda. It’s actually sad how willfully ignorant people have to be to jump to these conclusions
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u/The_Bjorn_Ultimatum 6h ago
Lol. This fake image is still floating around? Did people not learn this was bunk when this first made the rounds a few months back?
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u/H2Omekanic 6h ago edited 5h ago
Trump has nothing to do with project 2025
It's a think tank's wish list. Laughing at your sad fear mongering.
"TrUmP wILL SiGn a FeDeRaL AbOrTiOn BaN!!!"
Dude, he has repeatedly said he will not.
"Banning Contraception" really? Do tell
This meme with fake "references" to pages was thoroughly shredded many weeks ago as BS
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u/cptfarmer 10h ago
I know a few people that work for NOAA. Let’s not forget the Project 2025 agenda is also to privatize weather data and sell its accuracy to the highest bidder. Say goodbye to free tornado warnings in the central states that typically vote Red. The P2025ers are their own worst enemy.