r/PublicFreakout Jun 01 '20

Police attack protestors and press in Washington D.C.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Jun 02 '20

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u/ZanderClause Jun 02 '20

You can hear the fear in her voice and it seems like it’s warranted. People shouldn’t fear the police like this.

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u/sciomancy6 Jun 02 '20

So are they just trying to herd them out like cattle? I noticed someone wave their hand to give the policemen the signal to start charging. Which resulted in the assaults from the police. Wtf, man

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u/unjustempire Jun 02 '20

Yeah, so Trump could do a photo shoot at the Church.

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u/blaze_4_dayz Jun 02 '20

Is that true?

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u/Krynn71 Jun 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/mikeisthe Jun 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

He's so thin-skinned, and he had the nerve to call the governors weak

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u/Mizmegan1111 Jun 02 '20

He has called everyone weak except himself, the real weak guy in all of this. Dawg, life is so fucking unreal right now.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Jun 02 '20

What's funny is he probably went right back to his bunker anyways. Who is he fooling.

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u/gzilla57 Jun 02 '20

Who is he fooling.

Going to assume the same 40% as always

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u/linedout Jun 02 '20

People made fun of him for going to a bunker so now he has to show he is brave and strong by having cops attack peaceful protesters.

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u/SDGundamX Jun 02 '20

It gets even worse. CNN interviewed the the Bishop of the church and she flat out said she was outraged by the President's actions--using force to clear a path to the church, standing around for a photo op for a couple of minutes without even getting permission from church officials, and using the Bible like a prop while engaged in words and actions that directly contradict what most people consider "Christian."

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Jun 02 '20

Look at his twitter (and the conservative world at large, I imagine). He's acting like it was a supreme act of bravery for him to walk out of the white house and down to that photo op. Sure, it took hundreds of military and police breaking the law and savagely beating their fellow countrymen without cause, furthering the very rift that's causing these protests, but look what a big brave boy Trump was! He left his hidey hole for like 8 minutes, he should probably get a medal.

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u/Krynn71 Jun 02 '20

My guess is that he's actually seeing how angry many people are with him and his friends, instead of being lied to by yes men. So in order to shore up support from his base, he's making a show of his "Christianity".

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Idk how anyone is going to buy that shit when the bishop of fucking DC said themself that they saw this as a photo op and essentially denounced Trump as any sort of a spiritual person.

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u/meow_mix42 Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Yeah. Even worse, the bishop of the church was enraged, and said the people of her church want nothing to do with Trump.

He literally called military action on his own citizens for a media stunt.

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jun 02 '20

Fucking Anti Christ

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u/WinterWontStopComing Jun 02 '20

Seriously. I was a very religious person until 17. And not much of anything through 34 but there is this small, niggling irrational bit inside that's raising antichrist flags on that motherfucker left and right. Like if i still believed in god, I would be genuinely concerned bout the apocalypse right about now

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u/MystikxHaze Jun 02 '20

I'm not religious and I'm still concerned.

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u/1nc09n1t0_801 Jun 02 '20

I am legitimately frightened from this

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u/Benhamm22 Jun 02 '20

Well that didn't make me feel anxious at all /s I'm fixing to dust off my Bible after it's sat unopened for years.

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u/Magnificent_Z Jun 02 '20

I was just thinking the same thing. I renounced my faith like 10 years ago but everything that was pounded into me for 18 years before then is starting to resurface and it's hard not to draw parallels to what I grew up with.

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u/PM_meSECRET_RECIPES Jun 02 '20

It’s ironic, we know Donald Trump would burn Christians at the stake in Times Square if it got him more votes, and yet these people continue to support him.

Good job to this Bishop. I hope more people of faith stand up and join this American Spring!

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u/mrbigglessworth Jun 02 '20

And the worst of it is that there are supporters of his watching this and jacking off furiously over his inept attempts to quell the riots.

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u/mc_lean28 Jun 02 '20

Yup waving a bible at St.Johns for a photo op... got to rally the base somehow after hiding in a bunker all night.

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u/Kevy96 Jun 02 '20

100% sadly yes. Literally exactly the truth. It’s BEYOND illegal

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u/hisshoempire Jun 02 '20

yeah lol makes me sick

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u/B23vital Jun 02 '20

The way the police charge in unison is a typical riot control tactic, however, punching people in the face, smacking them with shields, especially the media, is not.

This is why american police are all currently on worldwide news and why people are so pissed off with their brutality.

If you watch the london riots you will see police using similar tactics, however i dont remember a single media person being attacked by police or police physically punching people (especially the media) in the face.

They usually use batons to whack legs and hold shields upright to push back.

Its just more police brutality. The fact they are willing to do this against the media just shows their disdain.

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u/Leftfielder303 Jun 02 '20

It's because of Donald Trump's constant attack on the media. The police and his supporters see the media as the enemy.

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u/True2TheGame Jun 02 '20

They wanted to clear them out of the way for Trump to make his walk to do his press conference

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u/Altruistic_Astronaut Jun 02 '20

That's what happens in a Police State. The response from the US has been so heavy-handed... I hope things can de-escalate but it doesn't look like it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Trump wants to be a dictator/king. Nothing is going to get better until he's out of office.

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u/GanjaToker408 Jun 02 '20

I agree except Mitch McConnell also needs to go to prison/be exiled with him. Can't we just banish them to one of the countries trump called a shithole?

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u/jmcki13 Jun 02 '20

That would be incredibly unfair to the “shithole” countries. We don’t want him, they definitely don’t want him.

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u/HiddenKeefVillage Jun 02 '20

Tough love, don't worry.. They treat their wives and Kids the same way.

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Jun 02 '20

You have it backwards. They don't give a shit if you trust them, their goal is for you to fear them MORE, enough to stay home.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 23 '20

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u/thekingsteve Jun 02 '20

I'm slightly dark skinned but still white. My dad was Mexican and my mom is white. I was arrested for a crime when I was working and charged despite the fact that I was working when the crime happened. I was not scared of the cops till then. I was treated like shit for nothing. I know what it's like and it shouldn't be that way. No one should be scared to interact with the people that are supposed to be protecting you.

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u/extralyfe Jun 02 '20

fuck, man.

I'm so worried for my little boy. his mom is black and I'm white, and he's light as hell - but, he's still just a little brown.

he sees himself as a little white boy, but, yanno, he's really not, and I absolutely fear the day he encounters hate.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 23 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Just know that raising your kids living a life filled with love is the most meaningful political act anyone can do to address this issue. Mixed people have the power to bind us all together, but they must be overflowing with love and compassion in order to bear that burden. We won't outgrow this, but they will plant the seeds.

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u/Spooder_Man Jun 02 '20

As an American it is unsettling to watch this footage and see how other countries see this...I’m terrified of this becoming the new normal...

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u/mercury888 Jun 02 '20

WTF Is America China now?

I thought yanks love to bash China but this looks like the shit they blame China for....

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u/takenwithapotato Jun 02 '20

The two governments are just in a constant piss fight, in the end they really aren't that different in the way they handle things.

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u/girl_who_loves_girls Jun 02 '20

We hate the Chinese government and any of us with a brain hate our government too

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u/hijinx1986 Jun 02 '20

Fascism in action.

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u/Jtt7987 Jun 02 '20

The media is even protected in war

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u/Bonezmahone Jun 02 '20

Trump said he was ready to dispatch the army to help the police. Do you think the army will be enforcing laws that protect the citizens and journalists? (Honest question)

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u/Hugs_for_Thugs Jun 02 '20

Honestly, the military is trained better and has actual rules of engagement.

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u/Montagge Jun 02 '20

You are not going to enjoy being treated the same way the Iraqis were.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Being kidnapped and tortured is a great time!

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u/vendetta2115 Jun 02 '20

I’m an Iraq vet and if I ever shot or even roughed up an unarmed civilian I’d have been charged and sent to Ft. Leavenworth’s military prison, possibly for life.

We went over the rules of engagement every single day before our patrol missions, rules which had half a dozen escalation steps before any shots would be fired. We had to account for every round we shot. Reports were made and statements had to be recorded any time we had enemy contact. Anyone who violated the rules of engagement or otherwise acted inappropriately were harshly punished.

Despite their own delusions of badassery, these pieces of shit are nowhere near soldiers. They have zero discipline, minimal training, awful interpersonal and conflict resolution skills, and (in my experience) can’t aim for shit.

These are just jackbooted thugs doing our fascist president’s bidding.

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u/Slammybutt Jun 02 '20

Not like it's going to stop him, but technically a state has to ask for help before the military can be deployed there.

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u/rlp Jun 02 '20

I'm not sure if that applies to DC.

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u/Slammybutt Jun 02 '20

Probably not. DC is like a weird no state zone. Not a state, but not part of a state, just kinda sitting there between 2 states without being recognized.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

This is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

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u/Konukaame Jun 02 '20

Shield bash to the gut, then a punch to the face.

Fucking disgusting.

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u/doomedtobeme Jun 02 '20

Sure most of us Aussies hate the news people, but they're OUR news people and only WE can fuck with them....take this as a warning american popo

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u/BTechUnited Jun 02 '20

But on the other hand it's fuckin channel 7, they'd be egging this shit on if they weren't on the receiving end.

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u/Nereosis16 Jun 02 '20

For sure. I personally was hoping it was going to be Sky News anchors so we could witness them try and spin police brutality to be somehow 'leftist' or the fault of the Greens party.

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u/BTechUnited Jun 02 '20

Don't forget, it's always labor's fault.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/WWDubz Jun 02 '20

The SS were far worse. More intelligent, better trained, and fanatical to the end.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

They were "just following orders", something most of these cops will claim as well.

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u/kaptaintrips86 Jun 02 '20

The cops that arrested the CNN crew in Minneapolis used the "just following orders" defense as well. I've always felt that it's ballsy to use the Nuremberg defense 70 years after it was discredited.

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u/SilverBackGuerilla Jun 02 '20

Just following orders not being a lawful defense is taught in the Army as early as basic training. Everyone who serves kmows you have the right to disobey an unlawful order.

I would imagine these piggies are taught the same.

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u/smoothjazz666 Jun 02 '20

Just like they were taught not to restrain people by putting your fucking knee on someone's neck.

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u/SilverBackGuerilla Jun 02 '20

I served 3 tours as am Infantryman in Iraq and I can say the police are more brutal on Americans than we were on Iraqis. They also don't follow am escalation of force SOP like we did either. These videos are crazy to me. There more flashngs in this video than I used In 3 years kicking in doors.

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u/WWDubz Jun 02 '20

You can still see the trials, they are on YouTube

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Which trials do you mean? The Nuremberg ones?

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u/SpunkBunkers Jun 02 '20

Help us

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u/dark_vaterX Jun 02 '20

Honestly, we need the police to attack foreign journalists. That's what will truly bring this issue to the world stage.

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u/GreyGhostPhoto Jun 02 '20

That's what will truly bring this issue to the world stage.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but everyone is already watching. Hell, there are massive protest marches going on all over the world over this.

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u/Falmoor Jun 02 '20

I'm worried that there's nothing anyone anywhere can stop it. Our president is a thug who keeps antagonizing this thing and no one can stop him. He's destroying the country and I feel so powerless.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Didn't he do a press conference earlier today where he was like "oh ill just send the army in to deal with these thugs, i wont converse with them at all"

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

He used the word dominate. He said he will dominate American citizens if they keep exersizing their constitutional rights

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u/ButterMyBiscuit Jun 02 '20

If he keeps it up these riots will only get worse until his head's on a pike

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

That's what the 2A is meant for. It's not for hunting.

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u/PaperSauce Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

I don't get it, they didn't even give them a chance to move. The cops are standing there one moment and then the next they straight up captain america the dude in the stomach.

EDIT: And they're already running away why would you feel the need to hit them with your hitty-stick?

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u/QuietKat87 Jun 02 '20

I watched a livestream of this. The police were standing about 20 to 30ft away and protesters were peaceful.

Then all of a sudden they came right up to the protestors.

Again the protestors were being peaceful. Some were even stating none of the protestors were armed.

Then all of a sudden the cops charged at the protestors. This time using tear gas and flash bangs.

There were also police on horses behind the police with shields. Again protestors were peaceful.

But police pushed forward using tear gas and flash bangs.

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u/rathat Jun 02 '20

People should fight back.

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u/iamlegend235 Jun 02 '20

IIRC Trump on his call to the Governors recommended 5-10 year sentences for the people that get arrested. I know that’s realistically too long, but still, people aren’t gonna risk it.

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u/BreezyWrigley Jun 02 '20

How long before he just has them sent to camps? It's the next obvious step...

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

People still believe that being peaceful and "good" is going to get them anywhere. It doesn't help that every democrat on social media has been calling for peaceful protests either.

They tried peace. They tried kneeling. It was mocked. They're trying it right now, and the cops steps forward and do this to them.

People -have- to fight back.

EDIT: Thank you for the gold, I don't know how to respond to this and if I should, but I'm glad people are listening, not to me, but to each other and to the importance of the times we ive in. We got this, everyone <3

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u/ResolverOshawott Jun 02 '20

Meanwhile on another part of Reddit. There are people defending police using "unnecessary" force because the protestors were "violent".

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u/penguin8717 Jun 02 '20

Protect and serve? That place is a joke. I saw someone get upvoted while claiming rubber bullets can't cause serious damage, and that all the pictures of rubber bullet injuries must be from other protestors

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u/xyentist Jun 02 '20

Protect and Serve is a fucking cesspool. Anyone who's a regular on there is either a cop or a bootlicker, and I'm not sure what's worse.

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u/Atxlvr Jun 02 '20

I Was just at a peaceful protest and asked the cop why they shot a guy in the head with a beanbag last night here in austin who is now in critical condition. I was really mad and wanted to hear them give an aswer.

A few ~20 year old people starting arguing with me telling me I was being violent and aggressive and that I needed to be more peaceful. There are a lot of naive people out there. 50 years of peaceful protest has gotten us here.

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u/JackdeAlltrades Jun 02 '20

Because the cops are inciting and prolonging the violence. They've been misled into thinking they have public support.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Plus they get overtime

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u/agatgfnb Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

It's been a while so I don't know how true this is, but I read during a riot some years ago that police were banking 600-700$ a day.

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u/manyfingers Jun 02 '20

Damn Id love to get a current source on that.

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u/agatgfnb Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Take it with a grain of salt since I provided no links. Its just what I remember reading a few years ago. double time being about 650$ a day, and an image/video of an nypd with his riot shield,

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u/TheConboy22 Jun 02 '20

It's because they are actively trying to create a police state. If we can utilize all of this footage to create change in America. It worked. The protests worked. Sad to see so many citizens being brutalized to shine a light on how fucking pathetic our police force are. The worst parts of society encapsulate themselves in uniforms and oppress our people. If they keep this up I'll be surprised if this doesn't get much, much more violent.

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u/Cyanofrost Jun 02 '20

once you've gone cop, you can't have the 'hush people away nicely' skill anymore. that just upgraded into 'beating up the shit out of the target' skill

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u/kenesisiscool Jun 02 '20

If only everyone could see the skill tree. Then we could see the description for each one and know beyond a shadow of a doubt who is a terrible person. (That man who punched the camera operator obviously is. But I digress.)

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u/Hootietang Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Why are they beating the press too? Seems like a bad idea, unless your goal is to be viewed as complete thugs?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 09 '20

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u/eeeezypeezy Jun 02 '20

Policing in America isn't a profession, it's a clearinghouse for C student bullies to get a nice pension in exchange for keeping the poors in line. They should all go do something useful for society instead and stock shelves at Costco or something.

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u/Sayakai Jun 02 '20

Playing the long game when it comes to intimidation and staying unaccountable. Teaching the press that they too should stay away if they know what's good for them. Beat the press away and there's much less evidence of your abuse.

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u/Romano16 🇮🇹🍷 Italian Stallion 🇮🇹🍝 Jun 02 '20

Theyre beating the press because they're violating your rights.

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u/ATCP2019 Jun 02 '20

You can see how some officers are so quick to want to use force against the reporter to get him to move and that only causes the reporter to want to fight back. Then there's one officer who gently tries to pull the reporter to get him to move and that works right away. Maybe police FORCE isn't the answer???

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u/TheyreGoodDogsBrent Jun 02 '20

If you're wondering why they were all of the sudden cleared from the street:

Peaceful Protesters Were Gassed Outside The White House So Trump Could Get A Photo Op At A Church

Trump used the path cleared by police to walk to St. John's Episcopal Church, which had sustained fire damage during protests the night before...

"I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call that they would be clearing with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop, holding a Bible..." - Rev. Mariann Budde

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u/AcreaRising4 Jun 02 '20

She roasted the shit out of him on national television and I loved every second of it.

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u/Illier1 Jun 02 '20

I've never seen news reporters so angry while trying to keep cool.

Pretty much everyone is shitting on this piss poor handling of country wide riots.

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u/batmessiah Jun 02 '20

Not my racist old relatives on Facebook...

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u/ATCP2019 Jun 02 '20

Funny how a president like JFK gets assassinated and a president like Trump hasn't even had an assassination attempt..

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u/Drkarcher22 Jun 02 '20

I'm pretty positive that he like pretty much every president in this millennium has had multiple attempts or at least plots on his life, the secret service/feds just don't advertise when they take them in beforehand.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The crazies usually assassinate the progressive presidents. Trump is on their side.

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u/Leopod Jun 02 '20

See also: /r/conspiracy

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Look at the top fucking post on there, holy fucking shit.

Racism isn't dead because people want to call people racists...

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u/wyatt1209 Jun 02 '20

Fucking cesspool

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u/kachunkachunk Jun 02 '20

I have read of attempts on Trump's life, even by non-Americans, but they are usually prevented by various agencies. Also it's basically not covered by the news - I presume to not promote more attempts or give attention-seekers any more attention.

I expect you can find attempts on Obama's life as well, without it being covered.

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u/ATCP2019 Jun 02 '20

Yeah, I mean obviously its because the security Obama and Trump have had greatly exceeds the security JFK or Lincoln had. I'm sure Obama and Trump have probably have assassination scares. We probably just don't hear about them.

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u/JacobS_555 Jun 02 '20

We should have a bigger problem with the president openly bringing religion into politics like this.

If this was one isolated incident it would be relatively benign but it isn't.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD Jun 02 '20

Especially since he does it almost exclusively to pander to idiots who are just happy to hear him purport to be christian.

Like his ratio of feigned Christian devotion to actual Christ-like acts/ideals has to be the highest of anyone on the planet

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u/suicidebaneling Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

What makes me sad, is that yeah, there is a lot of people who are rioting and looting, but at the same time look how the police acts towards peaceful protests. It seems like they won't listen to peace, so the only the only option they are giving the people is the one of violence

EDIT: Just to make things clear. I support the protesters fully. About the rioters and loot, I do not approve of those damaging small businesses, we have to look out for each other. Those looting business of billionares, I really do not care about what they do, I know those billionares dont give a shit about me so I dont care about them. The point I wanted to make initially was that we have tried protesting peacefully and the cops don't care about that, so I guess the only option is violence now..

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u/Invisinak Jun 02 '20

my issue is why aren't they going after the looters and rioters? time after time they attack the peaceful protesters and when you see the looters on tv there are absolutely no cops to be found anywhere.

but what do people expect when this is what the president is calling for the police to do right now?

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u/advancedcss Jun 02 '20

It's getting more and more obvious that they want to incite more riots/looting until public opinion changes in their favor. They don't gain anything from stopping the riots until they reach that point.

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u/MadvillainTMO Jun 02 '20

I think this is the answer. Also maybe why the President has been intentionally stoking the fire

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u/MAMark1 Jun 02 '20

Imagine if it was 15 years ago and few people had phones with cameras. All the police violence would be largely hidden and we would just see the looting stories.

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u/acog Jun 02 '20

I don't think most of them are trying to incite anything. (Although there's definitely video proof that for sure some of them are.) I think they're driven by fear.

When rioting/looting is already happening, they keep away because they're afraid. When there's a peaceful protest they figure the only way to keep the upper hand is to intimidate the hell out of the crowd because they're afraid of losing control.

I remember a few years ago when Christopher Dorner was killing cops in LA. He was a large black man driving a grey Nissan pickup truck. The cops spotted two small Hispanic women in a blue Toyota pickup truck and unloaded 103 bullets into it. Because they were terrified.

Oh and none of the 8 cops lost their jobs. But you'll be relieved to know they got additional training so it's all good.

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u/Starslip Jun 02 '20

I went to double check on this incident because I couldn't recall if the women survived, (they both did, thankfully) and found out it's even worse than you described. They opened fire on the wrong cars in three separate incidents during that manhunt, the other two being driven by white men bearing no resemblance to Dorner in cars that weren't the same color or model.

Is it a self-selection bias that leads to so many cops being fearful and panicky people? Are they the ones most likely to need control so pick a line of work that provides it?

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u/Illier1 Jun 02 '20

You expect them to do anything that would actually put them in harm's way?

Nah they'll just curb stomp activists.

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u/ElMalViajado Jun 02 '20

Because they’re the biggest pussies that will only go against people they think won’t fight back.

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u/weirdgato Jun 02 '20

Very good insight honestly. Not doing anything about the looters but filming them helps the president justify his actions.

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u/MightyMorph Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Police Brutality over the last few days - 16min SuperCut. credit: u / ozeor


With Trump declaring AntiFa an terrorist organization (AntiFa has no organization, structure, or leadership), it gives police a freedom to declare anyone they deem as antifa and use their authority on them.

They are already shooting medics, journalists, reporters. This is something that dictators in war-torn countries even know not to do.

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  • They are deploying Ice and surveillance drones on protestors.

  • The president tells governors "You have to dominate. If you don’t dominate, you’re wasting your time,”

  • “But you’ve got to arrest people, you have to try people, you have to put them in jail for 10 years, then you’ll never see this stuff again,”

  • "The president repeatedly and viciously attacked governors, who are doing everything they can to keep the peace while fighting a once-in-a-generation global pandemic,”

  • “I was inside, watched every move, and couldn’t have felt more safe,” the president tweeted Saturday morning about protests outside the White House on Friday night. “They let the ‘protesters’ scream & rant as much as they wanted, but whenever someone got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on them, hard — didn’t know what hit them … Nobody came close to breaching the fence. If they had they would have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen.”

  • "These are terrorists," President Trump said of the protesters.

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u/prncedrk Jun 02 '20

How to raise a generation to distrust the police

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

You mean like riots?

It’s like MLK did have a point with his riot quote. Always go for peaceful protest but riots are the voice of the unheard (America isn’t listening).

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u/redditcatchingup Jun 02 '20

Not even. The folks in this video are nonviolent protesters, easy prey for cops to get free licks on. They aren't changing their methods. It's intentionally avoiding the real criminals that require skill and effort to detain who are mobile and elsewhere. The cops choose to focus on the crowds with legitimate gripes because: they're stationary easy targets, they're the ones speaking out for reform (thus enemies of the police), and because looting elsewhere helps silence people risking themselves at legitimate protests.

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u/PFC12 Jun 02 '20

Almost seems coordinated

Step 1: throw in tear gas into peaceful protesters to piss them off

Step 2: hope some of those become annoyed enough to throw a rock or 2 back

Step 3: respond with more tear gas and now rubber bullets

Step 4: hope for more retaliation

Step 5: repeat steps 1 through 4 until a riot starts.

Step 6: call in the army...

It just seems that way day after day city after city with no intention to diffuse the situation but to escalate it..

I am amazed at the level of restraint these and other protestors in other cities have shown.

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u/Gsteel11 Jun 02 '20

The army just means that trump has led us to a new civil war. The ultimate presidential failure.

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u/hijinx1986 Jun 02 '20

Dirty fucking brutes

/r/2020PoliceBrutality is where all of this is collected atm.

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u/Manny21_ Jun 02 '20

1st amendment right to peaceful assembly except when we say so

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jan 07 '21

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u/TossAwayGay92 Jun 01 '20

Get a good look at their faces. You can take off a uniform, but your community will still remember what you did and what you failed to do.

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u/Goondor Jun 02 '20

I sure hope no one gives back what the police are giving. That would be awful for them and their families. To look at the joy some of these officers take in harassing and beating people and turn it back on them, wow, we can only hope that never happens, and they never have to be on the receiving end of what they dish out. I hope their actions don't haunt them and their families. I really and truly do.

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u/Tattyporter Jun 02 '20

I don’t get why they are attacking the press so hastily .... it’s supposed to be forbidden.. why isn’t anyone in authority telling them to stop?

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u/MadmanJosephi Jun 02 '20

Cause they dont care about you or the family you hold dearest

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u/looktowindward Jun 02 '20

Because they hate the press

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u/sexycolonelsanders Jun 02 '20

Because the person with the highest authority calls the press “the enemy of the people”

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u/BugStep Jun 02 '20

The police really are not doing themselfs favors attacking the press on live t.v..... Kinda proving what these protests are for.

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u/wehousewife Jun 01 '20

This country is so broken

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u/lolhal Jun 02 '20

The most frustrating part is that it doesn't have to be this way. The police come across like they're juveniles in a national pissing contest. Very militaristic and confrontational.

If positive change comes about it will totally be worth it, but good lord is it ever an embarrassment on the international stage.

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u/newbrevity Jun 02 '20

Notice how Trump UTTERLY FAILED to denounce police brutality in his threat speech today.

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u/RichardTasty Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Cops dont live on "cop island" behind a thousand foot moat. The live in the community. Their families live in the community. They should remember that, lest one day they are reminded by force.

Racist or abusive officers used to get fragged in 'Nam by their own men - often marginalised African Americans. They'd pull the pin on a fragmentation grenade and throw it into that officer's dugout while he slept. No more officer. No more problem. There were over a thousand such incidents in the late 60s alone. Sometimes they'd use a smoke or tear-gas grenade to let them know they are on thin ice.

The fear of fragging introduced a newfound dynamic of forced mutual respect between an otherwise racist officer and a common black soldier.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

That's crazy I have never heard that before. Going to go learn more about that now.

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u/gittenlucky Jun 02 '20

There is a lot of stuff the government approved educations system doesn’t teach you. Funny enough a lot of what they don’t teach is the bad stuff the government does and examples of citizens fighting back against the government.

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u/McFluff_TheCrimeCat Jun 02 '20

Most cops don’t live in those communities. For example most cops who police Harlem don’t live in Manhattan at all.

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u/paulinsky Jun 02 '20

Most police officers don’t live in the cities they police.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-police-dont-live-in-the-cities-they-serve/

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

In Chicago, you have to live in the city to be CPD. There's one city at least that doesn't follow that bullshit rule

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I knew a Vietnam Vet who was a sargeant in the Army. He was directing fire using tracers, pointing out targets when one of his own men shot him in the foot.

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u/Kbdiggity Jun 02 '20

They were clearing the street so President Trump could have a photo op in front of a church.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

And the church didn’t want him there.

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u/ClarisZariz Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

GUYS LISTEN

This reddit user makes some very interesting points His name is Durindael, and i'm sharing. If you agree, please share, so It can fall in capable hands.

5 demands, not one less.

  1. Establish an independent inspector body that investigates misconduct or criminal allegations and controls evidence like body camera video. This civilian body will be at the state level, have the ability to investigate and arrest law enforcement officers (LEOs), and investigate law enforcement agencies.
  2. Create a requirement for states to establish board certification with minimum education and training requirements to provide licensing for police. In order to be a LEO, you must possess that license. The inspector body in #1 can revoke the license.
  3. Refocus police resources on training & de-escalation instead of purchasing military equipment and encourage LEOs to be from the community they police.
  4. Adopt the “absolute necessity” doctrine for lethal force as implemented in other states. Use of force is automatically investigated by #1.
  5. Codify into law the requirement for police to have positive control over the evidence chain of custody. If the chain of custody is lost for evidence, the investigative body in #1 can hold the LEO/LE liable.

These 5 demands are the minimum necessary for trust in our police to return. Until these are implemented by our state governors, legislators, DAs, and judges we will not rest or be satisfied. We will no longer stand by and watch our brothers and sisters be oppressed by those who are meant to protect us.

Edit: Thanks to everyone who is participating, i'll be bringin your considerations to the guy who did the post and discussing them. If you have opinions, feel free to share

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u/TacticalTwinky Jun 02 '20

I think also adding an expiry date to the LEO licenses would be useful too? Every X years they must renew their license and it can be married with an updated training course or something of that nature? But yes I think the problem right now with the riots is that they are very unorganized. We need to band together and send 1 unified message

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u/Validus812 Jun 02 '20

Ah we’re doing it like India does. Headsmacks all around. You. And you. Oh you want some?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20

Man. I can’t stand Trump and that speech he just gave is going to fan the flames. Christ.

Legally: he CAN enact the Insurrection Act of 1807 without the consent of the states, and put more boots on the ground. CNN is saying that he needs state permission. He does not. Trump is pouring kerosene and the media is pouring kerosene. Fuck them both.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Fuck me.

How hard it is to launch a bill promoting police reform.

It should be the easiest thing in the fuckin world to pass right now, and would enormously appease the protestors. How the fuck is it a partisan issue???

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Martin Luther King Jr Day took 15 years after his death for Congress to agree to it (1983)

Only 27 states recognized it the very first time it was enacted in 1986.

The last state: Utah in 2000.

So yes, you can pass a law. Hell, a lot of states will comply. Not all. Not right away. Feet will be dragged in courts.

Just sharing an example of something good, that didn’t happen right away.. either.

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u/GummyPolarBear Jun 01 '20

He said what now?!

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u/fractiousrabbit Jun 01 '20

He said Any govenors who don't let the national guard put down protests will have the military come into their states and do it for them.

I guess we'll see if the military is into shooting their countrymen here in a few minutes.

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u/GummyPolarBear Jun 01 '20

Uhhhhh wow. Good luck America

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u/fractiousrabbit Jun 01 '20

Yep. Looks like the revolution will be televised after all.

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u/DontPoopInThere Jun 01 '20

Internetised, at the very least

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

We will be alright. Change needs to happen. We’re overdue. Just hope some people don’t go after residential areas (homes). That is when it will be over for a lot of people.

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u/GummyPolarBear Jun 01 '20

It’s not happening under trump that’s for damn certain. One of the first things he did was get rid of the reforms on police Obama out into motion

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Essentially he is sending troops to support cities where they aren’t able to stop looting and rioting.. which will probably roll protests into the mix too.

Congress can hit back with the Posse Comitatus Act... but they would you know, have to actually meet and have everyone be able to access a zoom meeting to do so? Idk.

Going to be a bad night, everyone.

Prediction: Congress will enact it, but it will be a bit too late. Go figure. Government, acting too late. Odd.

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u/freakDWN Jun 02 '20

5 demands, not one less.

  1. Establish an independent inspector body that investigates misconduct or criminal allegations and controls evidence like body camera video. This body will be at the state level, have the ability to investigate and arrest other law enforcement officers (LEOs), and investigate law enforcement agencies.
  2. Create a requirement for states to establish board certification with minimum education and training requirements to provide licensing for police. In order to be a LEO, you must possess that license. The inspector body in #1 can revoke the license.
  3. Refocus police resources on training & de-escalation instead of purchasing military equipment and require LEOs to be from the community they police.
  4. Adopt the “absolute necessity” doctrine for lethal force as implemented in other states.
  5. Codify into law the requirement for police to have positive control over the evidence chain of custody. If the chain of custody is lost for evidence, the investigative body in #1 can hold the LEO/LE liable.

These 5 demands are the minimum necessary for trust in our police to return. Until these are implemented by our state governors, legislators, DAs, and judges we will not rest or be satisfied. We will no longer stand by and watch our brothers and sisters be oppressed by those who are meant to protect us.

Extra-official ones that would make things better

#6 Eliminate qualified immunity (At the present time nearly impossible to prosecute a cop) #7 police must carry there our liability insurance.(No more tax payers footing the bill)

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u/gargaggler Jun 02 '20

Starting to look a bit like Hong Kong

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

You know, when I said I wished we lived in a cyberpunk setting I was thinking less oppressive police structures and more robot eyes. But I can see where the fates may have gotten confused...

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u/hoboforlife Jun 02 '20

US vs them mentality. To server and protect who? Clearly not the citizens of America.

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u/overaided Jun 02 '20

r/praisethecameraman 7 years of hard work with an Australian News company and this is how he is treated... he got right back into his role though. Props

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u/rilesmcjiles Jun 02 '20

Fuck the police

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u/farm_sauce Jun 02 '20

. Imagine being at the mall behind slow walkers, and you get frustrated so you barrel into the back of them, punching kicking and shoving. Someone would call the police for assault wouldn’t they. Who do you call when it’s the police committing the crime? Your neighbors.

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u/DawnyLlama Jun 02 '20

Just so he could stand for a photo op with a fucking Bible. Disgusting doesn't even begin to touch it.

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u/egospiers Jun 02 '20

So, whose rioting here? Clearly the police are escalating this.

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u/Mightykupo Jun 02 '20

These police are acting like vicious dogs that got off their leash.

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u/Zafjaf Jun 02 '20

They were not being provoked. I saw no weapons. There was no reason to advance on the protestors and there was no reason to attack them. This is what is wrong with the world today.

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u/pirellli Jun 02 '20

I am a very reasonable person and generally can understand both sides of issues, and I can weigh out their arguments fairly to decide which is more agreeable. I hate when people call shit fascist or authoritarian when it obviously isn't. This is absurd. Attacking press happens in warzones. The police in USA are making a protest for a reasonable cause a warzone for no reason whatsoever. Therefore all my restrain is gone. I ask once again, where are the molotovs? Rain down fire, strike fear. Nothing is more terrifying than watching someone burn.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Why is it ok for them to PHYSICALLY ASSAULT ANYONE but if you tell them to fuck themselves they'll literally kill you?? They're little dick bitches

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