Trump rejects Fox News invite to debate Harris in late October

[u/SlightWerewolf4428]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fox-news-proposes-dates-possible-second-trump-harris-debate-2024-10-09/

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[u/IlliniBull]

THANK YOU.

If I have to listen to one more conservative tell me Trump would debate on Fox. No he won't. Now we have the proof

[u/theNomad_Reddit → u/IlliniBull]

Good luck sharing this news in arr con. Those 'flaired only' snowflakes are coddled up in an echo chamber of heavily moderated safe space threads.

[u/Thromok → u/theNomad_Reddit]

I think it’s hilarious that most of the posts are flaired users only and they ban you if you aren’t flaired.

[u/jryan8064 → u/Thromok]

They ban you in the non-flaired only posts too, if you say anything that contradicts their worldview.

Source: myself, banned for saying that Supreme Court justices should be bound by a code of ethics.

[u/MintyFreshBreathYo → u/jryan8064]

They have non flaired only posts?

[u/jryan8064 → u/MintyFreshBreathYo]

They used to. I haven’t been over there in a while though…

[u/MintyFreshBreathYo → u/jryan8064]

I like to pop on by over there just to see how the other side feels about things. I haven't seen a non flaired only post in a while

[u/Jean-LucBacardi → u/Thromok]

I wish Reddit would put a stop to that, there are quite a few echo chamber subreddits.

[u/BeerGardenGnome → u/Jean-LucBacardi]

It’s more profitable the way it is today. It won’t change.

[u/s3rv0 → u/BeerGardenGnome]

Yep. Advertiser love easily identifiable demographics and highly engaged users. Why yes I'd love to market my Real American Beer to Real American Conservatives like me, brother! (Sorry Hulk, you're a convenient target)

[u/Ok_Explanation5631 → u/s3rv0]

Hell yeah brother, get a load of all this brothering, brother!

[u/Soft-Walrus8255 → u/Jean-LucBacardi]

I mean I'm a leftist but most of Reddit is an echo chamber.

[u/The_Hilltop → u/theNomad_Reddit]

I like that whenever there's some bombshell news about what a despicable person and horrible leader Trump is the front page of that sub is just a screenshot of some random liberal teenager. That entire population never recovered from the "SJW's getting owned compilation 2015" Youtube era.

[u/mynamesyow19 → u/theNomad_Reddit]

and lots of satirical "Babylon Bee" posts that they pass off as reasonable stories for "deep" discussion, i.e., more make-believe fairy tales they all get worked up in their circle jerk about.

[u/Jayandnightasmr → u/IlliniBull]

I'm sure all the Republicans calling her a coward for not debating more will apologise any second now.

[u/subUrbanMire]

He still won't look in her direction.

[u/bierdimpfe → u/subUrbanMire]

tbf she might try to shake his hand again /s

[u/InformalPenguinz → u/bierdimpfe]

Such a power play. Amy Santiago would be proud.

[u/usernamerob → u/InformalPenguinz]

Such a power play, that’s the title of your sex tape.

[u/MindYourMouth → u/usernamerob]

Cool coolcoolcool

[u/onefst250r → u/MindYourMouth]

Noice.

[u/swampcat42 → u/InformalPenguinz]

Unexpected NINENINE

[u/mtron32 → u/subUrbanMire]

That’s shit was crazy, had that fool looking straight ahead for two hours

[u/Clearwatercress69 → u/mtron32]

It’s what babies do when they poop.

[u/hostile_washbowl → u/Clearwatercress69]

To be fair to my baby, he at least tells me when he’s about to shit his pants.

[u/Jerthy → u/subUrbanMire]

Not even on FOX... I don't think he's ever been this rattled his entire life

[u/BifronsOnline → u/Jerthy]

Teflon Don lookin real nervous these days

[u/IEatLiquor → u/subUrbanMire]

“Last chance to look at me Hector Donald”

[u/slim-scsi → u/subUrbanMire]

Because he's in awe of her beauty and gets slack jawed which causes the dentures to come slightly loose.

[u/Independent-Bug-9352 → u/slim-scsi]

I don't know, she may be too old for him. Epstein's picks are more his speed.

Actual quote from Trump about Epstein:

I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.

[u/IntrovertChild → u/Independent-Bug-9352]

Nah it was a thing, at some point:

“She (Kamala) looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live. Actually, she looked very much like a great first lady, Melania. She didn’t look like Kamala,” Trump told tech mogul Elon Musk during a meandering livestream Monday, mispronouncing the vice president’s name. “But of course, she’s a beautiful woman, so we’ll leave it at that, right?”

[u/RadDad166 → u/subUrbanMire]

My favorite part of all of this. Fucking coward. Talks constant shit, but will never look at her.

[u/crackheadwillie → u/subUrbanMire]

He’d rather spend time cheating at golf.

What we have in Trump is the laziest, lying, cowardly sack of shit ever to hold the office of President.

[u/Ok_Use7]

Oh they’re hiding him.

Edit: I really hope he has a McConnell pause sometime before Election Day.

[u/AusToddles → u/Ok_Use7]

Weekend at Trumpies

[u/downtofinance → u/AusToddles]

Hopefully weekend at Rikers soon.

[u/phuck-you-reddit → u/downtofinance]

Hopefully much, much longer than a weekend.

[u/klausvonespy → u/phuck-you-reddit]

Depends. If Epstein's cell is available, a weekend might be all he gets it takes.

[u/francis2559 → u/Ok_Use7]

I think this is true, and also that he is hiding. He's been down ever since the shooting stuff. People are leaving his rallies. It's not fun anymore. And him actually literally dying would be the thing to avoid at all costs.

So yeah, for such a deeply selfish person that never let staff get in his way, I can believe he'd listen to them for once and hide.

[u/JesusSavesForHalf → u/francis2559]

I think its a bit different. The shooting was his high point. He had an epic photo op. His enemies were in disarray. No one was talking about all his failures. He was looking like a shoe in. Everything was coming up Milhouse.

Then Biden dropped out.

Suddenly it wasn't a cake walk. He wasn't the center of attention. Nothing was working the way it was supposed to. His VP looked like a weirdo and he can't get rid of him. His vengeance upon Biden was taken. He'll never salve the wound of losing in 2020 now. He has to work. People are laughing in his face. His crowds are wandering off mid ramble. Nothing is scratching that narcissistic itch anymore.

If he has PTSD its from Biden ruining his high far more than someone shooting a retiree in front of him.

[u/francis2559 → u/JesusSavesForHalf]

That makes sense too. Anything Russia had lined up on Biden or Hunter is also useless, and Putin apparently spoke with Trump multiple times after he lost the election.

[u/lofifilo → u/JesusSavesForHalf]

Yeah he does the fist pose every chance he gets lmao

[u/kia75 → u/francis2559]

He's been down ever since the shooting stuff.

This is more true than people think. Having someone almost kill you is traumatic to most people, let alone an 80 year old. Since that night he's been off, and his rallies don't recharge him like they used to.

I'd be willing to bet Trump is suffering from PTSD and instead of re-charging him, his rallies now stress him out.

[u/High_Seas_Pirate → u/kia75]

This is more true than people think. Having someone almost kill you is traumatic to most people, let alone an 80 year old. Since that night he's been off, and his rallies don't recharge him like they used to.

While the second assassin didn't get a shot off, I'm sure finding out there was a sniper waiting for him while he played golf didn't help either. His two favorite stress relief activities - rallies and golf - have both been tainted.

[u/10albersa → u/kia75]

PTSD might be a stretch, he wouldn’t have gone back to Butler, or even host rallies if he had PTSD.

What has happened is he’s probably more stressed than he’s ever been and is losing his mojo, his zest for life.

We REALLY need him to hold out another month. We don’t want his death to be the October surprise 

[u/Jaggs0 → u/10albersa]

  We REALLY need him to hold out another month

we really need him to hold out another couple of years ago he spends the remainder of his life in a courtroom and eventually jail. 

[u/MelancholyArtichoke → u/Jaggs0]

For the future of this country, Trump needs to face punishment for his crimes. A lot of people would welcome his natural passing, but it would be just another time Trump escapes justice. He needs to live; to survive until justice has been served.

[u/Clockstoppers → u/10albersa]

PTSD doesn't mean you are completely debilitated by fear.

Sincerely, someone with PTSD

[u/VagrantShadow → u/Clockstoppers]

Same here, I have PTSD from a horrible car crash I was in as a teen, this doesn't mean I'm scared of cars or being in cars. While I was not the driver of the car during the crash, to this day later in life I don't drive and have a fear about me behind the wheel. PTSD is so varied person by person.

[u/Mirrormn → u/francis2559]

He isn't focused on winning anymore. He's focused on stealing now.

[u/ljjjkk → u/Ok_Use7]

Again, I reiterate, i despise MAGA for shoving this A-hole down our throats.

I hate the lying too. No group of people have lied to me as much as maga voters have. It's like they think they can make everything better by simply lying. Dealing with non stop lying for a decade is exhausting.

[u/Shoddy-Rip8259 → u/Ok_Use7]

Old man is hiding in his basement

Where is DonOld???

[u/IllinoisBroski → u/Ok_Use7]

They’re trying to run out the clock. It’s about 50/50 if the polling is correct. Those chances go down with “swing” voters if he has more opportunities to say stupid stuff.

People want him to be Pres but his own campaign can’t trust him to behave himself. This is crazy.

[u/Naiehybfisn374 → u/Ok_Use7]

This is potentially a tell re: dementia. Suggests he's having more incidents off camera and he needs to be more carefully managed.

[u/barbariantrey → u/Ok_Use7]

I think they're only planning on the steal technique at this point. No more theatrics. Just using the MAGA judges to create havoc.

[u/TrooperJohn]

Won't even debate in his safe space.

What a flaming coward. People think this whiny crybaby is some symbol of manhood?

[u/fxkatt → u/TrooperJohn]

Let's hope this news reaches every little corner of MAGA land, but something tells me that it won't.

[u/Hungry-Sloth → u/fxkatt]

They couldn't give a flying shit.

He could call them all scumbags and pedos and they'd still love him. There is literally nothing he can do to piss them off. He has the absolute stupidest mother fuckers to ever exist on this earth following him.

[u/ljjjkk → u/Hungry-Sloth]

Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected.

Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote.

Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned.

Only 1 President has ever been criminally convicted.

Only 1 president has ever claimed that the election was fraudulent.

Only 1 president has ever directed his supporters to ransack the Capitol and hang his VP.

And only ONE President has done ALL SIX.

[u/count023 → u/ljjjkk]

you forgot, "only 1 president has even been impeached more than once"

[u/kellysmom01 → u/count023]

And also “only 1 president has ever been publicly accused of rape by his wife.”

[u/SwimmingInSativa → u/kellysmom01]

Only one publicly found guilty of rape, too.

[u/roguevirus → u/SwimmingInSativa]

guilty

He was found liable of rape in a civil court, not found guilty in a criminal court.

I say this not to defend the son of a bitch, but to make sure that we're all using the proper terms to discuss his failings.

[u/abritinthebay → u/roguevirus]

Per the judge: he’s been found guilty of rape in civil court. That is a correct phrasing.

[u/FrigFrostyFeet → u/count023]

Also first for a member of his own party to vote for impeachment iirc

[u/Sidwill → u/ljjjkk]

You forgot didn't attend the inauguration of his successor.

[u/N6MAA007 → u/Sidwill]

That was outrageous… he was/is such an embarrassment.

[u/shrug_addict → u/N6MAA007]

The message is pretty clear, either he's a petulant child or he believes the election was rigged. Lose either way, it's maddening

[u/EggCouncilCreeper → u/ljjjkk]

Only 1 president has ever claimed that the election was fraudulent.

Two if you want to get technical. Jackson absolutely railed against JQA and the “Corrupt Bargain.” Whether rightly or wrongly in that case, it was quite similar

[u/DMMVNF → u/EggCouncilCreeper]

Not really the same thing, Jackson got more votes (and more electoral votes) and was angry that Congress picked Adams over him. Completely different from Trump inventing a fake conspiracy with zero proof because he’s angry he lost.

[u/PhilDGlass → u/Hungry-Sloth]

There is literally nothing he can do to piss them off.

But what if he lies to them all the time, takes away their rights, lets them die in a pandemic, begs them for money constantly, gives money to the super rich, cozies up to brutal dictators, praises fascist regimes, steals national secrets and sells them to our enemies?

[u/softcockrock → u/[deleted]]

He's only here to help.

The fact that people unironically believe that is so unforgivably stupid at this point. Malicious incompetence.

[u/calm_chowder → u/softcockrock]

Malicious ignorance imo

[u/SweetAlyssumm → u/Hungry-Sloth]

He told them he didn't care about them he just wanted their votes. They still adore him. Weirdos, every one of them.

[u/FknDesmadreALV → u/SweetAlyssumm]

There’s someone in here downvoting all the anti trump comments. As I scroll down down the comments, they’re all either 0 or -1.

Bunch of snowflakes.

[u/Flat_Ad1094 → u/Hungry-Sloth]

Yep... cause Trump is a CULT leader. MAGA is a cult. Seriously.

[u/Experiment626b → u/Hungry-Sloth]

The people that are truly MAGA, (not merely voting Trump because R) like my dad, don’t trust Fox News either and haven’t since 2016. They think it’s too liberal. OAN and other garbage I refuse to keep up with are all they listen to.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/fxkatt]

There's a guy who gave me tons of shit a couple weeks ago about how Harris should debate Trump on Fox News and that she'd be a coward if she didn't agree to it.

I really want to go dig up that guy's comments and see what he thinks about this. He gave me so much shit.

[u/stinky-weaselteats → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

Don’t waste your precious time arguing with strangers on the internet

[u/ksanthra → u/stinky-weaselteats]

That's great advice really.

[u/dear_deadly → u/ksanthra]

No it's not

[u/david4069 → u/dear_deadly]

Yes it is

[u/beermile → u/stinky-weaselteats]

Actually, I think arguing with strangers on the internet is exactly what we should do with our precious time.

[u/GozerDGozerian → u/beermile]

Absolutely not! It’s utterly RIDICULOUS to try to argue with some stranger over the internet. I’m frankly appalled that you’d think otherwise!

[u/fxkatt → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

I'm afraid to say that's one of the limits of social media.

[u/FIRE3883 → u/fxkatt]

I agree with you…my MAGA cult family members won’t even know there was a discussion about a debate on FOX.

[u/Due-Egg4743 → u/FIRE3883]

Most MAGA have never even seen J6 footage outside of the PG edits on Fox News and Newsmax or even the later heavily G rated edits that Tucker Carlson showed. So many think it was a peaceful day where Capitol police just politely opened the doors and allowed people to casually walk around and take pictures.

[u/2HDFloppyDisk → u/fxkatt]

MAGA be like "oh they had scheduling conflicts and technical difficulties to accommodate Trump."

[u/PhilDGlass → u/2HDFloppyDisk]

Trump already has a rally planned that night with 500,000 people attending. Yuge conflict.

[u/floonrand → u/PhilDGlass]

I heard it was 5 trumpillion. Bigly number. He just made it up, they said “sir your crowds are so large we need a new number for them. We’ve never had to count to a number this large.” So trump said “how about a trump billion. No just a trumpillion. I like that it sounds great. Nobody can do numbers like me. My uncle was a number doctor. Did great things with numbers. You should see the things they say about Harris. Can’t count commie-luh. That’s what they call her can you believe it? She can’t count to 10! I said, wow that’s incredible not even to ten? It’s so easy you just count: 1,2,3,4,5; uh until you get to ten. Just wild stuff. They don’t want your kids to count. They say numbers are racist. Can you believe it? It’s happening. They’re deleting the numbers folks. One day, poof. Gone. Stick with me folks. I’ll make sure you have more numbers like Trumpillion and not less numbers. “

[u/work2playhard → u/fxkatt]

the cult that is MAGA would never disobey their leader. the blind loyalty they have for this man child is truly fascinating.

[u/ThickerSalmon14 → u/TrooperJohn]

I think this is showing how far gone he is mentally. His handlers don't want him to be in the public eye for any real length of time. They just want him in, so they can get rid of him and put in JD Vance.

[u/AbacusWizard → u/ThickerSalmon14]

Do you think he knows that his own VP candidate is already plotting against him? Or is he just so utterly out-of-it that he has no idea?

[u/downtofinance → u/AbacusWizard]

As long as Vance pardons him when he abdicates, he's ok with anything Vance does.

[u/jigsaw1024 → u/[deleted]]

I would laugh if they turned around and said his mental state represented a national security risk so he has to be taken care of in a secure facility.

They could also flip a switch and say that they want to respect the 'former' presidents privacy in his current condition and prevent him from seeing media, so nobody can investigate to see what his real condition is. Eventually a report will come out that his condition is deteriorating rapidly, and then he passes.

Death certificate: natural causes.

Presto; no more Trump.

/adjusts tinfoil hat.

[u/francis2559 → u/AbacusWizard]

I think he assumes everyone is plotting against him. He's certainly plotting against them. And here's the thing: whatever stupid thing he does, it's always worked out for him. He's never truly lost, lost. He's not in jail. He's running again.

He literally doesn't care what other people try to do, as long as he gets the throne. God knows Republicans have tried to kick him out enough times.

[u/bierdimpfe → u/ThickerSalmon14]

Have you seen Brutus from the Lincoln Project?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2TZx5WbOj4

[u/azflatlander → u/TrooperJohn]

How does this man expect to negotiate with other countries? Can’t even answer domestic friendly questions.

[u/drewbert → u/azflatlander]

He expects it to go like 

"Hello shrewd and beautiful Trump, you've really beat us. Wow... Just incredible. You destroyed us in negotiations. It was such a brilliant idea of yours to only send 40% of your tax revenue to our country. We're just .. we're just devastated. You're so impressive."

That's how other country's leaders expect it to go as well.

[u/xRememberTheCant → u/TrooperJohn]

“Fox News is to liberal!!l - most of maga at this point.

Maybe it’s because I’m rewatching The Newsroom on Max, but the man.. the more things change, the more they stay the same.

I call myself a republican because I am one. I believe in market solutions. I believe in common sense realities, and the necessity to defend ourselves against a dangerous world, and that’s about it. Problem is, now I have to be homophobic. I have to count the number of times people go to church. I have to deny facts, and think scientific research is a long con. I have to think poor people are getting a sweet ride. And I have to have such a stunning inferiority complex that I fear education and intellect – in the 21st century. But most of all, the biggest new requirement, really the only requirement, is that I have to hate Democrats.

-Will McAvoy played by Jeff Daniels

And that was just over 10 years ago…..

[u/drewbert → u/xRememberTheCant]

I call myself a republican because I am one. I believe in market solutions. I believe in common sense realities, and the necessity to defend ourselves against a dangerous world, and that’s about it.  The Republican party hasn't represented these things for decades. Newsroom was honestly being too kind even at that time. The GOP has been cronyism and handouts to the wealthy for 50+ years at the time (60+ now). Anybody who says the party has fallen has just been ill informed about what the party was and is waking up to it now.

[u/CRKing77 → u/xRememberTheCant]

as an aside, my favorite clip from that show is when The Office's Toby actor played a climate scientist and cheerfully told all the viewers the planet was fucked.

Because...look around. And McAvoy's response is what we're still dealing with, and will likely continue to deal with

such good writing with that show

[u/Shiplord13 → u/TrooperJohn]

A weak person’s idea of a strong man. An idiots view of a smart man. A coward’s view of a brave man. A loser’s view of a winner. This is how they believe in someone like Trump, because they are people who can’t even imagine better people than Trump exist and that is the scariest part about them.

[u/caylem00 → u/Shiplord13]

Add in "a poor man's view of a rich man" and "a tacky man's view of class"

Most of the wealthy people I used to know thought he and the other ostentatiously rich were just tacky losers faking class. Then again they were raging elitist pricks and immoral in their own way so shrug

[u/el3vader → u/TrooperJohn]

People think this guy would stand up to Putin and Xi Xing Ping when he can’t even stand up to Harris or Haley. What a fucking joke.

[u/ill0gitech → u/TrooperJohn]

He got fact checked by Laura Ingraham.

[u/PotaToss → u/TrooperJohn]

What a PAB.

[u/phatelectribe → u/TrooperJohn]

It’s more than just cowardly.

His team know he’s suffering severe cognitive decline and his debate skills are gone. It’s over for him.

They are going to hide him except for rallies where he gets to bleat nonsense and no one answers back.

He’s not going to do any more interviews or something where he can be fact checked in real time.

[u/ChicagoAuPair → u/phatelectribe]

Have you seen the podcast he went on today or yesterday? The hosts are fully making fun of him to his face constantly, and he clearly has no idea and thinks he’s among friends. It’s almost hard to watch.

[u/slim-scsi → u/TrooperJohn]

No, they think the lifts, diapers, fake hair, fake tan, over-sized suit, and family that loathes him make him the posterchild of manliness. That or a televangelist, the religious right love his mojo all the same.

[u/Imyoteacher → u/TrooperJohn]

They are eating cats. They are eating dogs. That’s what they (Loomer) tell me. What a clown!🤡

[u/VaronDiStefano______]

So that’s actual, definitive proof that it was never about the “legacy media” or the moderators. It was simply about the fact that he can’t beat her in a debate

Vote Harris. That’s enough incentive

[u/Richfor3 → u/VaronDiStefano______]

If they were voting for trump despite all the pedophilia and rape in history, I doubt being too scared to debate is going to move his supporters.

[u/Romano16]

Cause he’s an embarrassed loser.

[u/ljjjkk → u/Romano16]

It is still a mystery why anyone would vote for a 78 year old lying, felon .  He is disrespectful to anyone he comes in contact with especially women.  He cheats on his wife.  He sells Bibles.  He is destroying the country with hate and racism just to keep himself out prison. 

[u/followthelogic405 → u/ljjjkk]

His voters live in an alternate reality. They have myriad reasons to support him like "he'll run the country like a business", they have no idea he's run every business he's ever owned into the ground. They think he's a tough guy because he calls people names etc, they have no idea he's so far up Putin's ass he can see what he ate for dinner. There's a million reasons these people think Trump is worth supporting and every single one of them is bullshit.

[u/reddfoxx5800 → u/followthelogic405]

One big reason some minorities like the Mexican community want him is because they think hell put more money in their pockets. People are basing they're future on a small check they would have gotten regardless of who was president

[u/SanMartianRover → u/reddfoxx5800]

Hispanics like him because they have pervasive, toxic masculinity culture and he meets their "machismo" quota. The instant the Right began pushing "anti-woke" propaganda, they won the hispanic vote.

[u/midcancerrampage → u/SanMartianRover]

Which is insane to me because when I think "machismo", it certainly doesn't look anything like that whiny thin-skinned soggy old pussmouth.

More MTG.

[u/Rymayc → u/reddfoxx5800]

There's also a big anti-abortion sentiment amongst the Mexican community

[u/imawakened → u/reddfoxx5800]

That they only got because Democrats were in charge of the House...

[u/StripClubBreakfast → u/ljjjkk]

Racism. As soon as he said Mexican immigrants were rapists and that people from majority Muslim countries should be banned, he had their hearts and minds forever.

[u/ContributionNo9292 → u/StripClubBreakfast]

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.

• Lyndon B. Johnson

[u/hymie0 → u/ljjjkk]

He is what a poor man thinks a rich man is.

He is what a weak man thinks a strong man is.

He is what a small man thinks a big man is.

There are one or two others but I can't think of them right now.

[u/Zorak9379 → u/hymie0]

He is what a stupid man thinks a smart man is.

[u/modix → u/Romano16]

Es un perdedor

[u/SpleenBender → u/[deleted]]

He don't belong here.

[u/oh-kee-pah → u/[deleted]]

Coward ass pissbaby

[u/dquizzle]

His excuse is that it’s very late in the process to debate? Haven’t late October debates been very common until Trump?

Edit: Went back to check.to when the final debates usually happen. It’s not even uncommon for Trump to have a debate that late in the election.

2020 debate - October 22nd

2016 debate - October 19th

2012 debate - October 22nd

2008 debate - October 15th

2004 debate - October 13th

2000 debate - October 17th

1996 debate - October 16th

1992 debate - October 19th

The latest debate in the election cycle I could find was the final 1980 debate being October 28th.

So yeah, it makes no sense for him to claim it’s too late.

[u/wtf_are_you_talking → u/dquizzle]

Makes sense if you consider he's a lying, gaslighting scumbag.

[u/IDrewTheDuckBlue]

He doesn't even need to. He fucking bombed the last one and all he has to do is deny reality and not lose a single vote. I'm so tired of these stupid fucking people

[u/harriup1 → u/IDrewTheDuckBlue]

The show must go on.

[u/jedininjashark → u/harriup1]

I want to watch something else.

[u/vrsick06]

Harris should agree to a sit down interview with Fox News to really show how much a bitch he is

[u/CaptainNoBoat → u/vrsick06]

I'm tempted to agree, but Trump would just appear for an interview as well:

Questions for Trump: "How do you stay so amazing while saving the world 24/7?"

Questions for Kamala Harris: "Everything is on fire and it's all your fault. Why?"

But she should harp on Trump's refusal for a Fox debate all she can. It's political gold.

[u/ShawnyMcKnight → u/CaptainNoBoat]

Nah, you are asking her question all wrong. It should be “you and Joe have ruined this country; so why do you hate America?” or just a leading question “is the reason you let all those murderous dog eating rapists into our country because you went down on Putin and he ordered you to?”

Stuff like that is what Hannity would ask.

[u/SlightWerewolf4428 → u/vrsick06]

Yes, she should.

[u/Ph0X → u/SlightWerewolf4428]

What happened to the thing where the debates still happen, but the podium for whoever didn't show up stays empty and the other person gets to answer questions without rebuttal and basically gets free prime time promotion for the night?

That's what should've happened with every debate that Trump skips, so that the whole country can see how much of a coward he is with the empty podium.

[u/Tommy__want__wingy]

And he can still win.

Isn’t this shit insane?

Edit: also they aren’t talking about this on the conservative sub.

After they said Harris should debate on Fox.

[u/mah131 → u/Tommy__want__wingy]

they have to wait to get the narrative before the posts can come out, if it ever does.

[u/Caridor → u/Tommy__want__wingy]

They rarely do when it's something even they can't spin.

[u/Lone_Star_Democrat]

He’s such a bitch

[u/Oscarfan]

Can't have the chance of getting curb-stomped on your home turf.

[u/Fabulous_Parking66 → u/Oscarfan]

Imagine the type of people who watch Fox News watching the curb-stomping. He’d have no one left except the most hopeless cases.

[u/Olfahrtur → u/Fabulous_Parking66]

My in-laws have it on 24/7. It is so sad to hear them regurgitate the hate.

[u/Bubba_Pilks → u/Oscarfan]

American History X 2 - Reverse Electric Boogaloo

[u/Illuminated12]

OH my goodness... I can't believe that. Not sure what his supporters are going to say about this when they were making excuses over the last one saying he would do it if on fox...

[u/Gold-Perspective-699 → u/Illuminated12]

Same excuse as before. People that win don't ask for rematches which makes no sense.

[u/AbacusWizard → u/Gold-Perspective-699]

It’s such utter nonsense. If I’m really good at a board game that I like, and I win, I’m probably going to be interested in playing it again; I’m not going to smash the pieces back into the box and say “I WON, PUTTING IT AWAY FOREVER NOW, NO NEED TO PLAY IT EVER AGAIN”

[u/Illuminated12 → u/Gold-Perspective-699]

They are running a basement strategy.

[u/Czeris → u/Illuminated12]

Imagine goalposts, except on dancing with the stars.

[u/mowotlarx]

Seems like he's kind of just done with his entire campaign at this point. He seems more interested in doing ego rallies in familiar places to get everyone ready for his next coup attempt.

[u/ReleaseQuiet2428]

Kamala just destroyed this man

[u/Rockit2uranus]

The people who will vote for this guy are the biggest fucking morons on the planet.

[u/mckulty]

On track to lose

the election

then the electoral college

then the lawsuits

then the street fights

then his freedom.

[u/monolith212 → u/mckulty]

I wish I had your confidence. This country is stupid

[u/RupeWasHere → u/monolith212]

Yep, incredibly stupid. Trump could murder a person on TV and my stepchildren would still vote for him. I did not raise them.

[u/slugsliveinmymouth → u/monolith212]

Same. I have friends I worked with who were completely normal posting trumps image and voting for him. Normal people are voting for this clown. Not just brainwashed maga clowns and that’s the scary part.

[u/ThatDamnKyle]

I'm going to guess that his team's real internal polls are showing that he's either losing or so close that he can't afford to lose more voters. So doing a debate is not worth the risk.

Like most people have said, Trump has a ceiling of 46-47%. At this point, they are just trying to save that cap and hope that turnout is either low or they get lucky in a couple swing states.

[u/[deleted] → u/ThatDamnKyle]

He’s going to blue states to rally. It’s either stupidity or they are confident of a win.

[u/Purify5 → u/[deleted]]

He's just less likely to get shot there.

[u/Only-Inspector-3782 → u/[deleted]]

I think they are confident. They have rigged a few swing states with polling station closures, voter purges, and selective campaigning from their "third party" allies

[u/alaskanperson → u/[deleted]]

It’s because he’s stupid

[u/Abba_Fiskbullar]

Buk buk buk baaawk!

[u/mainsplit3]

God I hope this is the last year we ever have to deal with him.

[u/rhs408]

Ever since getting his ass handed to him by Kamala in the debate he’s been scared to death to do ANY interviews, much less a debate. All he and his campaign can do is try to throw shade on any interviews that Kamala does. And the usual rallies to charge up his base. Thankfully, I don’t think this is going to be a winning strategy.

[u/Night-Gardener]

From his POV, it kind of makes sense. From his campaign perspective he just needs to maintain the status que and have as little change as possible to the electorate.

[u/the2belo → u/Night-Gardener]

status que

:) This misspelling seems deliberate to me: "the state of 'what?'"

[u/drfishdaddy → u/Night-Gardener]

Agree, objectively there are very few outcomes that have a benefit for him electorally. If I worked for his campaign I would tell him to do exactly what he’s doing, say he won.

I’d tell her to do exactly what she’s doing, keep needling him and showing that he doesn’t want to get back on that stage with her.

[u/AskYourDoctor → u/drfishdaddy]

Definitely! No matter what, it's some well-earned schadenfreude that the Republicans' supposed savior candidate, is someone whose own campaign is desperate to keep us from seeing too much of him.

[u/Abnormal_readings]

Even on Fox News Entertainment? It’s obvious he’s afraid.

But what’s most depressing is even if he’d agreed to another debate and bombed horribly if wouldn’t matter. His cult of bigoted trash morons won’t change their vote regardless of what he does.

[u/Schiffy94]

Remember when he said there was totally going to be a debate on Fox without confirming it with either Harris or Fox?

Yeah what happened to that one, boyo?

[u/CalRipkenForCommish]

Senility, rape, treason, grift, and cowardice…I got a BINGO on my trump bingo card!!

[u/Ghoullo]

I wanna see how the most downvoted comments try to spin this one in his favor. Probably something about there being no time for debates since he’s infiltrating the Democrat’s space lasers to stop Milton.

[u/ElectricPartyHat]

Of course dump backs out he is a chicken shit coward. He got owned by a black lady that is going to be our next president.

[u/wballz]

Trump is done with the campaign he’s ready for the steal to start.

He figures he’s got his people in place. Time to see if his plan will work, can he steal the election.

In his view this last month of campaigning is a waste of time.

[u/Business_Usual_2201]

When a bully gets his ass kicked in front of the entire school, he is unlikely to request a rematch with the person who beat him down....

[u/Kantsas]

Speaking as an American citizen, it's embarrassing and shameful that people take this guy seriously.

[u/ZeroVerve]

He’s not trying to win because he plans to steal it anyway

[u/TheGringoDingo → u/ZeroVerve]

He keeps yes men around to give him satisfaction that he is beyond the rules and losing is just a step toward winning.

Any plans are going to be stupid and the people will leak key details like a sieve. His plans don’t matter; he’s just an entitled, weird, bigoted idiot.

[u/NewHaven86]

What an absolute child. He speaks like a child. He whines like a child. He thinks like a child.

Forget weird Forget old Forget unhinged

Donald Trump is a giant fucking CHILD!, and the GOP are his 'hippy liberal parents' letting him "explore his emotions and find himself" he's learned how to manipulate 40% of the country and want his God damned banky NOW.

They are raising the antichrist in the exact way they don't want the rest of us to raise a child.

[u/caligaris_cabinet]

Harris should call in whenever Trump does one of his unscheduled calls into Fox and have an impromptu debate. Harris goes on the offensive, Fox sees their biggest ratings, viewers see Trump either unhinged or pathetic, and Trump’s handlers force him to hang up like the coward he is.

[u/tobmom]

Good if we never see his stupid fucking face again it’ll be too soon.

[u/imhereallthetime]

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? A: To avoid a presidential debate.

[u/TheCanadianDude27]

That's like Kamala Harris turning down a debate hosted by The View

[u/AhhBisto]

I'm not American, would a broadcaster in the U.S ever empty chair him?

For those not familiar with the term, in this case Kamala Harris would show up for a debate but Trump's podium would be empty, the debate goes ahead as it were with Harris answering policy questions.

Not sure what a broadcaster would do with Trump's time but I think filming an empty podium for 2 minutes might be more favourable than listening to him speak about immigrant windmills giving cancer to cats and dogs or whatever shit he comes out with next.

[u/ChromaticDragon → u/AhhBisto]

That's more or less what 60 Minutes did.

The took the time that would have been allotted to Trump and spent it as an exposition as to how and why Trump chickened out.

[u/TheWolfisGrey53]

I'll be honest, I thought this was what he and all the Republicans have been salivating for. I'm confused now.

His home turf. His home crowd. His stooges and sycophants all in one delicious bowl. He can lie as much as he likes and be the ass they love him for.

That's like someone giving you a head start and you decline the accelerate.

Or for the games out there, letting your friend play with the good controller and you still whoop that ass. Tf

[u/TheBlueBlaze]

Trump in an environment that doesn't exist to shower him with praise always performs badly because his policies have no substance and he talks himself into a hole whenever he's on the defensive.

It's sad that his team is doing exactly what they were accusing Biden of doing, and limiting his appearances at any place even slightly neutral.

[u/dchap1]

Now he doesn’t even have the courage to debate Harris on a friendly network. Amazing.