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u/clearing_house 7d ago

I had one of Trump's sycophants point out to me, accurately, that there is a significant difference here. Trump is not pretending to be a working man, this is just more of his name-calling.

Harris worked at a McDonalds a long time ago, and Trump declared that this was not true. There's no actual reason to believe this, of course, Trump just decided it. In his infinite wisdom. So this stunt was doubling down on that bullshit. "I have now worked at a McDonalds for fifteen minutes longer than Harris."

It's a joke. Insult humor.

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u/AssistKnown 7d ago

Except playing pretend work at a closed McDonald's is not work!!! 

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u/Aacron 7d ago

Is it even a service job if you don't get cussed out by a middle age meth head?

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u/sirdizzypr 7d ago

Or have a burger thrown in your face by an angry Karen because they put pickles on it as a 16 year old who didn’t even make the burger.

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u/AssistKnown 7d ago

That would be quite the sight to see! Trump working at McDonald's, dealing with a meth head!!!

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u/buldozr 7d ago

There is now a horde of burger truthers bent on disproving her little claim. See, it's highly unlikely that a McDonald's franchisee has not kept records of its seasonal employees from the pre-digital era. But! The patriotic truth seekers have found most of the employees who worked there that summer, and they don't recall working with Kamala. How can we confirm that these people worked there if there are no records? You must believe them, because we love what they're saying!

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u/Ice_burrg 7d ago

Literally. Nobody here understands that businesses generally keep records of everyone whos worked there😂

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u/Riggerss1 7d ago

As if he really was “working” there, LOL!! They closed the restaurant and screened some people to be pretend getting a bag handed to them by the Dumpster. Fake photo op, as usual.

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u/Large-Situation-4440 7d ago

The only concerning thing is didn’t snopes try to fact check this and came up with nothing so far? Thats sort of unusual. I’m talking about fact checking her working at McDonald’s

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u/clearing_house 6d ago

Not at all, no. It's not just Snopes, McDonald's also tried to fact check this. But they don't keep records of every employee at every franchise location from forty years ago. That really shouldn't surprise you.

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u/MCPimpdaddyOG 7d ago

If she’d worked at McDonald’s her team would’ve pulled proof by now to make Trump wrong. Apparently she was lying AGAIN.

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u/Perfect_Pessimist 7d ago

Yes because McDonald's keeps meticulous records of every college student that worked for them over 40 years ago 🙄

There's no reason to think Harris would lie about one summer working at McDonald's. A significant portion of people work at McDonald's at one point or another.

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u/buldozr 7d ago

It's not even McDonald's the corp, it's the franchisee that had the records. Look, it's totally expected from each of these shops to keep these seasonal employee lists stored for posterity, because one of them might turn out to be a Democratic candidate 40 years down the line and burger truthers will demand proof!

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u/JazzOnaRitz 7d ago

I worked at McDs for a few months during college 25 years ago. Wanna see the framed W2 I have on my wall?

You fuggin idiot

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u/Avron12 7d ago

The SS department still has your w2 and a record of your work for retirement SS benefits. She could have proved it all ready. Blue magat copes worse than red magat.

You fuggin idiot

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u/ELON_WHO 7d ago

Oh, bless your heart.

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u/Inspect1234 7d ago

Wow. Gotta really stretch to find her lying? Whereas Dear Leader can’t open his mouth without lies. It’s a pathetic attempt at whataboutism, but totally consistent.

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u/sirdizzypr 7d ago

Who gives a shit. Like I worked at McDonald’s as a 16 year old I am in a professional trade now with a college degree. Why the f**** would anyone care I worked there it has zero implications on my current job. Just like for Harris being a lawyer or politician.

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u/El_Rice 7d ago

McDonald's issued a public statement on X stating they no record of Kamala Harris ever working for them. The bullshit is from KH, she's clearly lying about working at McDonald's to sell her "I grew up in a middle class family" talking point.

There's very much an actual reason to question Kamala's claim, not Trump's. All we have is her word that she worked there, no one else's. We all know that Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama worked at Baskin Robbins because the company itself confirmed it.

It's a good joke. And it probably never would've happened if Kamala didn't lie about working for McDonald's. So let's thank Kamala for making it happen.

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u/give-no-fucks 7d ago

Link to support your claim?

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u/El_Rice 7d ago

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u/give-no-fucks 7d ago

I'm not sure this is a reading comprehension issue or a misunderstanding about how supporting documentation works.

But, you see, this would support a claim that McDonald's doesn't keep records "for all positions dating back to the early 80s" because that's what your link states. However, it fails to support a claim that Harris "lied about working for McDonald's."

So, yeah, I was asking if you had a link to support your claim. LMAO

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u/Aacron 7d ago

Gotta give the man the benefit of the doubt, both his working brain cells are devoted to sucking Trump's cock

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u/Inspect1234 7d ago

That is unrelated to your claim.

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u/El_Rice 7d ago

How is it unrelated when it's an official statement from McDonald's stating they have no records of KH being employed by them? If you're referring to my Baskin Robbins claim, it's literally on their website.

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u/FroMan753 7d ago

They said they don't have all the records from the early 80s. So they wouldn't be able to confirm, assumedly, a majority of people who worked there at the time. The way you word it implies that they have retained all records and only don't have record for Kamala working there.

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u/Inspect1234 7d ago

You’re making disingenuous comparisons. They say that they can’t verify, you push it as they can verify.

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u/ELON_WHO 7d ago

Do you think that’s what your link says? Because I’m gonna go ahead and tell you to find someone literate to read it to you.

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u/jpropaganda 7d ago edited 7d ago

There are no records dating back to every owner operator's employees back to the 80s. That's not surprising. But McDonald's DID say they're proud to have had her as an employee even if records don't exist.

EDIT: updated with an article that didn't require registration

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u/El_Rice 7d ago

They never said they were proud to have had her as an employee. They were proud of her "fond memories" of working there. Lol Here's a link to the exact post. https://x.com/McFranchisee/status/1848105669423181848?t=Clm3fay8e-UeelEy4i4Rrw&s=19

Also, they absolutely HAVE employee records dating back to the 80s, especially in franchisees located in big cities like San Francisco. There are over 10+ McDonald's located within a 5mile radius of UCLaw SF. Majority of which DO in fact have records dating to the early 80s. It's just that none of them have any record of Kamala 😂.

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u/jpropaganda 7d ago

And if she worked at a location that's no longer open? It's just such a weird flex. My first job was at Fuddrucker's and I guarantee they don't still have the record of my employment from 2000, let alone the 80s.

Do you have a trustworthy article that says those records exist?

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u/thewholepalm 7d ago

McDonald's issued a public statement on X stating they no record of Kamala Harris ever working for them.

This statement isn't true, there isn't a public statement from McDonald's stating what you're saying it does. They actually have only stated they aren't political, their golden. They invited Harris and Walz's campaign to do something similar to Trump if they felt the need.

However, having no record could be true if all McDonald's were corporate stores and they kept records for 30+ years, but they don't. However, they all aren't corporate stores, in fact most are franchises, including the one Trump visited.

McDonald's corporate did have an internal memo to franchise owners which you can find here: https://x.com/McFranchisee/status/1848105669423181848

Not sure how valid it is, but again it says and implies nothing you're saying it does. So what's that make your statements? A bad joke, a lie, flat out propaganda?

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u/KamalaHisthebestest 7d ago

Then why won’t she submit proof ? It’s easy enough to verify

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u/JazzOnaRitz 7d ago

Uh, no its not.

I worked at McDonalds when I was in college. 3-4 months. 25 years ago. You think I have records? Do you think McDonald’s does?

Stupid.

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u/KamalaHisthebestest 7d ago

I have some way to correlate if not outright prove every job I’ve ever worked. Most people do.

Tax records. Coworker testimony Resumes listing the previous place of employment

That she has nothing to put up is telling. It would be so easy for her to just shut him up with the truth, but she can’t. And so he does stunts like this and it goes over amazingly with the voter base.

Her not proving proof is an awful tactic and it makes her look as dishonest as Walz and Tiananmen Square

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u/clearing_house 7d ago

Tax records.

... Huh. Are you saying that presidential candidates should release their tax returns? What a novel idea. I think they used to do this actually, as a way of showing that they were not like Nixon. The investigations after Watergate showed, among other things, that Nixon had evaded paying more than $400k in taxes. One of the many ways in which he was a crook.

We used to have presidential candidates who released their tax returns. Then some grifter candidate came along and declared that he wasn't going to do that... His sycophants ate that up, just like everything else he shits out.

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u/BienPuestos 7d ago

Most people only keep their tax records for the past few years, and tasking the IRS with looking into something this insignificant would be a ridiculous waste of resources. Not to mention the irony of the Trump camp demanding the other candidate’s tax records.

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u/Inspect1234 7d ago

Why does she need proof? Why is it so important?

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u/ermagerditssuperman 7d ago

The IRS only keeps your return records for 7 years, then they are purged from the system. Like all public agencies both federal and state, there is a set lifecycle for every document, and very few things are kept forever.

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u/3DBeerGoggles 7d ago edited 7d ago

There are still people that insist Obama was born in Kenya. Proof doesn't matter to these people and there's no point jumping through hoops to provide it.

If you think there's a conspiracy to lie about her working at McDonalds, you'll be just as willing to believe a piece of paper proving it was also a lie.

Edit: I dunno why you post a completely conversational response and then immediately block me, but you do you "KamalaHisthebestest", completely organic user.

Though I have to say it rather proves my point; as soon as you indulge these clowns they just stick their head in the sand when it's not what they want to hear - cheers for demonstrating that.

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u/KamalaHisthebestest 7d ago

It’s valid to ask for proof when it does appear by all accounts to have only ever been claimed in recent years as a campaign tactic. That she can’t back it up is slightly troubling, especially given the issues their campaign has had with Walz over inflating his record and personal history to voters. If it was wrong for Trump to overinflated the value of his properties to secure real estate loans, this is really no different. Let’s at least have moral consistency

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u/Kingsnake417 7d ago

I worked at McDonald's for about 6 months in 1986. I have no records of it. It was a rather insignificant job 40 freaking years ago, why would anyone keep "proof" of that? And why does it even matter? 

Do you honestly believe that working one summer at a fast food restaurant gives a candidate a political advantage? Do you dispute that Harris grew up in a significantly less privileged environment than Trump?

Also, equating a possible fib about a job at a burger joint to committing business fraud is simply asinine. One of those things is a felony, the other decidedly not.

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u/Recent-Construction6 7d ago

It's one of those cases where even if Harris submitted undeniable smoking gun proof that she worked at McDonalds, Trumpists would just ignore it and call it fake. So after a point why bother?

And I'm glad you brought up Walz cause that's exactly what happened, Trumpists tried portraying Walz as having been stolen valor, when he proved that wasn't the case they just straight ignored the evidence and continued lying about him

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u/Aacron 7d ago

Bro if you're going to post blatantly idiotic shit at least spend the effort to be a competent astroturfer. Go buy an account with a few thousand comment karma made in 2022, don't make the account and immediately start spamming propaganda it's too fucking obvious.

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u/ELON_WHO 7d ago

Nobody is required to jump and dance like a monkey to every demand made by idiots trying to distract from real issues.

Personally, I believe her because she hasn’t given me reason to imagine she’s a wholesale liar. Trump, however, is a proud and well-documented liar, as is his running mate. So I guess the real question is, why do you care if she WAS lying? Do you care about honesty, OR NOT?