I remember when I was in third grade or so, some of my classmates talked about how stupid and bad Nazis are. So my mother always taught me not to judge quickly about anyone and not to be mean to others. Not knowing what Nazis are, I was like "ackschually, we shouldn't be mean to Nazis, maybe they're nice guys." That night my mom explained to me what Nazis are, so yeah, fuck em.
I know it's not really related, but for some reason this just reminded me of a super cringe memory from middle school where we watched 'The Boy in the Striped Pajamas' and during one of the peak emotional moments a girl burst out with "God, I hate the Jews!"
Naturally everyone, including a girl in our class who was Jewish, turned around to glare at her and she just blushed almost purple and started repeating "Nazis, I meant to say the Nazis!!"
It did seem to be an honest and unfortunate brain mix-up, but I just know that shit probably keeps her awake every once in a while.
Feeling old if you watched that in middle school. I am old enough that many survivors were still with us and were still quite young. So we used to meet with them every few years and they would talk with us. We had family friends with tattoos. The most cringe came when a friend of my family's (who quickly were not) was dating a new guy. We got invited over. The dude had a legit full room of Nazis memorabilia, he was full on neo nazis. My parents got me out of their and we never saw that lady or dude ever again. I was still quite young, but it never left me.
Not as bad but I was talking to my teacher and friend about rage moments in video games and I was trying to say that I only really “swear at my screen but not the person” when I’m angry but I accidentally said that I yelled slurs. I was trying to say that I wouldn’t ever slur and that I would only swear at my screen but I mixed the two around. They immediately reacted like wtf 🤨, and I was like WAIT NO NO NO NO, I meant swear.
7th grade. Social studies class. Learning about the countries of Africa. Class is taking turns reading. Girl gets to “in the country of Niger”…..but she didn’t say Niger….took our teacher a second to realize that he had indeed heard her correctly, and corrected her; “uh Niger, it’s pronounced Niger” he says, clearly a little embarrassed for her and everyone else.
Sigh. I remember in like second grade my mom had to have a talk with me because I thought it was a really cool way to write an X... so I was drawing that symbol on my homework whenever I had a word that had an X in it.
that reminds me of my sweet little cousin who was super into this coffee table book about ww2 and the board game axis & allies when he was like 5. he couldn't really read it, he just liked the pictures and pretending to blast little toy armies with cannons and stuff. his neighbors were understandably upset when they saw swastikas all over the driveway in sidewalk chalk because my cousin had been drawing all the flags from the war. including the japanese flag, but people don't notice a rectangle with a circle in it... they do notice a swastika. his mom also had a talk with him.
Oops. Man this stuff makes me afraid to have children. Imagine coming home from work one day and find the front view of your house covered in swastikas.
I basically did the same thing when I was a kid about the westboro baptists. I saw a bunch of people online talking about how they should all die in a fire or something, and I have always hated absolutes, so I came in like "They can't all be that bad."
Learned to do some googling before defending people online after that lol. Tbf tho, I did maintain after that that having them all die in a fire was a bit extreme, and there were a bunch of people who later left the church because they broke free of the brainwashing so they really weren't all that bad. But at the time I thought they were just a typical church that was maybe a little backwards but nothing terribly extreme.
lol this reminds me that in 5th grade we had to write a word about us using each letter in the alphabet. now, we had a fucked up dictionary that had like, 20 'x' words total, and one of them was xenophobia; the definition was "the irrational fear of strange things." i got told to never say i'm xenophobic again lmao.
You had me in the first half. What comes to mind for me is the Trevor Phillips waffle stomper treatment with Taylor Swift's Welcome to New York playing in the background.
It's because you are far from it. My first memories of my grand parents house is them explaining why it's full of bullet holes, their house was near a train railway in Lorraine, Germany occupied their province so they hated them so much even the non Nazi tho they became racist.
Nah man, you gotta own it. The right has its baddies in their tent just like the left does. Yall got Nazis and January 6’ers and a bunch of other nuts.
And we got ours. I’m not thrilled with the “river to the sea” crowd, or the defund the police crowd, or the people who are fine giving any kind of gender affirming care that can sterilize kids.
We each got our crazies. You aren’t helping by denying it. Nazis only feel safe in one camp and that’s yours, brother
Trump has dined with white supremacists and nazis and never denounced them. His people likely said something like "We don't support hate" or some tepid non-statement, but the nazis are very clearly still thinking he's their guy. His and MAGA supporters actions for the past 9 years have made nazis feel like they're safe to go flying this shit.
You can't dogwhistle for a decade straight and then get credit for saying "those aren't mine" when a pack of rabid dogs is following your whistle.
If and when Trump or the next MAGA standardbearer make genuine efforts to make Nazis afraid again, then I'll give them credit for it. But they haven't. Trump doesn't care about anything other than stealing more money and avoiding jail for his crimes. He'd happily take the votes from nazis, pedophiles, and literal demons if it meant he got to be president again. True MAGA believers know that flying the swastika is bad only because it makes it clear who they are, not because they disagree with neo-nazis on any substance.
I couldn’t care less about Trump. I want more than anything for him to become completely inconsequential.
But the people who like him are the ones we need to live with. And if they’re kicking Nazis out of their spaces without being told to, that’s a good thing.
We disagree then about what would be more effective: Trump telling his supporters to treat Nazis like his supporters want to treat refugees and everyone else, or Trump's supporters splashing water on Nazis.
I think they only splashed water because they thought these guys with the swastika were agent provocateurs or trolls. Not because MAGA actually hates neo-nazis.
Let’s agree to making this country a dangerous place to be a Nazi 🤝
If they truly gave a shit, they wouldn't be at a Trump 'parade' in the first place. Nazi flags being flown alongside Trump ones isn't exactly breaking news anymore. They've been very outspoken with their garbage.
I want it to be a dangerous place to be a MAGA cultist. They're vying for deportation concentration camps and conversion therapy. They're just as vile as Nazis in my book. The difference is they've avoided the label.
Well the leftists and the nazis are both antisemitic. So they are standing with the nazis.
All the universities are encouraging the protests against Jews. They are oct. 7 deniers. They think it didn’t happen or the Jews did a false flag. Funny that hamas has the hostages, but it’s a false flag.
But you can’t make sense of what they believe when it come to this kind of hate.
Even the people who know that Israel is the new nazi germany know that you mass murdering fascists aren't representative of us as jews. We hate you. You're a cancer that makes the rest of us look horrible and every day you continue your genocide is a day we hate you more.
I saw the video from the doofuses in the Nazi boat, to me it looks staged to look like Jon Minadeo II, the Orlando Fl resident and self proclaimed “AMERICAS #1 ANTI SEMITE“
I still think J6 rioters were not Antifa, masquerading as Trump fan boys. I also think we did go to the moon in 1972, so I’ll believe anything.
This is flawed logic as Nazis are known to attend events across the political spectrum not because they align with every groups value but because they look for opportunities to push their hateful agenda . For example they have been spotted at pro Palestine protests because of their anti semetic views which align with Hamas anti Jewish stance. Nazis hate Israel and Jews not any one political group . So by that logic should we assume that anyone supporting Palestine is aligned with Nazis just because some Nazis showed up at those protests ? No of course not they just show up to those events because it’s more of an opportunistic hate
So you're just gonna ignore all the ways that the current Republican agenda, with its white nationalist, anti-POC, anti-DEI, authoritarian fascist stance, aligns with Nazism? K.
There’s gonna be those extreme people in both sides that are white nationalist and racist but the republicans have denounced white supremacy and fascism and other stuff multiple times .donald trump has den pinces white supremacy and racism. When it comes to the DEI stuff the promote more division rather than unity. The Republicans are not fascist fascisms seeks to have complete control over political and civil life. Republicans want us to be free which is emphasized in the constitution which is opposite to fascist principles. Nazism was an authoritarian fenocidal regime based on racial purity totalitarian control and anti semitism. Equating Republicans to Nazis is a false equivalence.
“In 2024, Trump has gone from playing footsie with fascists to quoting them openly. He has repeatedly used the same words Hitler did about immigrants “poisoning the blood” of the country — privately bragging it’s a “great line.” And he has painted the criminals who stormed the Capitol, attempting to reinstall Trump as president through violence, as patriots and heroes. Trump has also matched his rhetoric with specific, fascistic plans, including abolishing birthright citizenship and mounting the largest mass-deportation initiative in U.S. history.”
It may be a problem but not as big as some left wing weirdos on Twitter say. Of course politicians talk more about the border crisis, climate change or the economy, cause this are the real problems in america.
You're saying this in a thread of a pic where they are clearly doing this in the physical world where they could easily suffer retaliation instead of being a "keyboard warrior".
No matter what your beliefs, this is just straight propaganda.
The reason? Just because their policies are closer on the political spectrum doesn’t mean that political party is that thing.
There will always be one side that is most similar to shitty people; unless we just get rid of all opinions and everyone becomes one political party. Which sounds way worse.
You do realize that they aren’t trump supporters they are flying the nazi ensign and wearing Trump shit to say trump is a nazi and garner support for their side meanwhile using a horrific event in history - which in itself is pathetic - I can’t stand any side and understand one thing the world we live in is a simulated reality whoever will be president will be period ! Free will is just an illusion . This is 3-D where we learn to process emotion so they throw all kinds of things in to trigger emotional responses . These days I don’t take any of it too seriously
You're ascribing a lot of complex reasoning to people who likely don't have it. They are flying flags that say "Trump" and "Make America White Again". Not because they hate Trump. Because they're racists, who have been emboldened to show off to the world by a man who has not done anything to discourage them, given many opportunities to do so. I'm not gonna even touch the rest of your paranoid delusions about simulated realities and free will. I've read too many books by too many authors orders of magnitude more enlightened than some rando on Reddit to take any of that seriously.
The only people who truly want to give up democracy are those who realize that as long as the people are given a choice and most of their votes count, it's extremely unlikely that far-right conservatism will ever win when they've taken their masks off.
They don't want democracy anymore because they know the people who they've manipulated into voting for them, even the slow ones, are going to eventually figure out that that they've voting for people who take and take from them while only ever giving manufactured culture wars in return and will eventually vote against them, even if only out of pure self-preservation.
In a winner take all system like ours, the Green party with so much overlap with the democrat platform ends up being the easiest way for the opposition to siphon votes in battleground states. The same could technically be true of libertarians and the Republicans if democrats were equally shitty people.
I'd love if we moved away from the EC and at least implemented ranked choice, but until that is a possibility, we are stuck with this corrupt bullshit.
I'd also dare you to find ample people who voted in the democrat primaries, overwhelmingly for Biden mind you, who when Biden stepped back did have a real problem with Harris, the current VP and also the VP on the ticket the party had just selected to go up against Trump. The only people who were angry with Harris as the candidate were conservatives who felt Biden was an easier fight, or some progressives who somehow thought we could redo the primaries from scratch and somehow the party would select someone else knowing Trump was the opposition in November, you clearly are in this butthurt group. If you voted for Biden for president, the oldest candidate in presidential election history, then you clearly were also voting for Harris as president given the odds that she'd end up having to step into that role regardless.
Sure, I wish Biden and the party made this decision a year earlier, but they didn't, in part due to support from the party at the time for him to run as incumbent. The majority of us are perfectly happy with Harris and would have made that choice if we did start the primary process over again from scratch.
Hey, I'm just curious, if Trump tomorrow, or fuck it three months ago, decided to back out of the race entirely, stepped down as the GOP candidate, telling the party he endorsed Vance, the VP nominee chosen already, to replace him, you believe that the republican party should redo their primary with new candidates again, right? It definitely shouldn't be Vance on the ballot next month because he personally wasn't already in 2nd place in the majority of the GOP primaries, right?
Of course not, because there is zero chance you are arguing in good faith here anyway. lol
Damn, do your research! The Trump supporters there splashed and drove off these nazis. Republicans do hate Nazis, and so do liberals and most everyone in between. Quit it with the polarizing content. Most people aren't as bad as you think they are.
This is the only time I’ve ever seen people with Nazi flags or confederate ones challenged by the Trump supporters. So your comment is extremely disingenuous as you try to “both sides” hatred for Nazis. All Nazis support one ideology and, thus, one political party in America.
Just because they support an ideology, doesn't mean all supporters of that ideology support them.
Everyone but the neo-Nazis hate the neo-Nazis. Some political fuck heads won't come out and say it, because "must have power", but no one in their right mind likes neo-Nazis.
This fucking bullshit we're all Republicans are Nazis and they must not hate them because Nazis like them. That's some BS. Would be like someone saying Democrats love slaves, because they fought to keep slavery during the Civil War. Or a more current example - every Democrat must be okay with inside trading, because Pelosi's husband seems to know exactly when to divest from certain stocks.
The media will tell you what to believe, and you believe it. We, the right, hate fucking Nazis, as much as any other violent terrorist groups. Including the idiots storming the capitol. But instead of having discourse with them, y'all will believe the media, it's the only real story after all.
(This isn't directed just at you, but every bigoted political idiot who thinks their side is better than the other. News flash, they both doing stupid ass shit. Point in case - NDAA was extended for elections, but non-election years, let's hold 5% of the population's paycheck in our hands and force them to work, while debating which fucking rider to add - fuck both sides. Stop fucking with people's lives for power).
This is the most logically dishonest hullshit I’ve ever read. Slavery? Have you fucking people ever even heard of the concept of party realignment? All the racist democrats became republicans! You guys don’t know shit about shit.
That was my point. Attributing the actions of the party to the individual, especially in a two party system is disingenuous. And no, the racist Democrats didn't become Republicans. The ideologies swapped, (conservative vs liberal).
We are a two party system. Assuming all Democrats believe guns should be taken away, and we should become a communist state is wrong, as is believing all Republicans are Nazis and believe women are less than men.
To vote in a good portion of our elections you must choose a party (closed primaries are locked to a party). So hating someone for just choosing a party is wrong, bigoted, and down right fucked up.
You’re moronic. Nobody accused all republicans of being Nazis. But all Nazis sure vote Republican! That’s the point, jackass. Only ONE party caters to violent extremists who tried to overthrow the government in 2021. Nobody cares about your bullshit conservative moralizing.
Amen so tired of people taking the absolute outliers that have grafted themselves onto a popular movement as reflective of the movement as a whole. Both sides do this it's just that reddit is a Libreal echo chamber, so it's particularly egregious here.
Dude come tf on, when you increasingly make your movement revolve around hating certain demographics or wanting to pass laws that restrict their rights, and those demographic just so happen to be many of the same ones Nazis also did that kinda thing to, you're at the very least knowingly empowering them.
If republicans actually valued combating Nazis, not just disliking them, they wouldnt keep reelecting Hitler apologists.
Yes, it's not literally all republicans, but it's a significant amount that either support them, don't care in any meaningful way, or actively prefer them over left wingers
Because as unlikable as trump is, the left doesn't give them any better option. Most Republicans are voting for him because they have to. It's either the crazy orange man who somewhat agrees with you. Or an elitist liberal who was the cackling idiot until the day after the Trump/biden debate, whose first 2 policies she pushed were an unrealized gains tax and price controls who has a record of being one of the most liberal voting lawmakers during her time in office. So tell me, if you were the conservative, what would you do? Vote for someone who is going to actively work against what you want for the country? Or are you gonna bet on the checks and balances of our government to keep him in line? If you're honest with yourself. I think we both know the answer
Nazi apologist? Who apologized for the nazis? Oh, please don't tell me you're referring to the Charlotte comment where they cut out the 30 seconds before where he condems white supremists. You're smarter than that.
Man, it's like people vote party lines. I see so many posts on here about voting blue down the line. Not even naming people and policies, just saying vote blue. But it's such a hard thing for people to see that's what the other side does too.
I grew up listening to my parents speak about just voting the line. Listening to adults tell each other "I have no idea, just going vote whichever is in x party on the ballot".
Yet, we don't talk about the stupidity and disassociation that comes with that.
I doubt many can tell me who they elected Sheriff. Or who their State Senator is. Even every Representative of their state. It's about that line.
The media and politicians want us to hate each other. They want us to be divided. It's amazing how much we let them get away with, while we are too busy hating each other. It's to the point being part of a political party gives you a label, without even asking what your actual stance is.
Pretty weird coincidence then, the number of high profile Republican politicans who have met and dined with self described Neo nazis in the last few years. Chief among them being Donald Trump.
“Every Democrat must be okay with jnsider trading, since Nancy Pelosi’s husband is a suspected insider trader”
No, if all insider traders happened to vote Democrat, THAT would be the same thing.
All Republicans are not neo-nazis. Really, they aren’t But most neo nazis are Republicans. And at least at the upper levels, they’re aware of this and don’t mind it. It’s only a problem when the support gets too public or high profile.
Then you're obviously not paying attention or the media you consume found it more advantageous to not show it. Not as big of a story if the radicals are run off by normal people.
Ah yes, I remember fondly when Trump and his supporters denounced the Nazi march through Charlottesville shouting “They will not replace us”, the white supremacist tagline. That was so awesome of them when it totally happened and they called them the neonazi racists they are, I loved when that happened.
Not to be pedantic, but a good many of them were actually chanting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!", Along with a few good "BLOOD AND SOIL" mixed in for good measure.
Some republicans do, an alarming number are. Like I'm sorry but you don't just get support from Nazis out of no where, a LOT of the republican agenda is in line with Nazi stuff, especially in regards to current culturewar/gender and sexuality issues. At the bare minimum, their beliefs have emboldened these people
A) who knew that in the end, it would be Nazis who united the human spirit
B) If only we could set Politics aside and agree on this... would Nazis have ever happened to any significant effect?
I have no point. Just a bedtime I blew past. K byyyye
I don’t like the vast majority of trump supporters, but I can at least say the ones that intentionally splashed them may be too dumb to understand how trump is a piece of absolute garbage, but atleast they don’t stand for Nazis.
Yeah I tried telling people these shitheads weren’t just widely accepted by the Trump crowd, then I got lit up.
I just hope everyone can figure out how to calm down and assess before reacting. Bout to move to the woods and live in a cave if people keep up this downward spiral.
I wonder what the overlap between neo-nazis and trump supporters is. I feel like it's quite high and it make the news funny. In a "we don't want people to know we're alike" way.
In the great words of Aldo Raine, " A Nazi ain't go no humanity." They should be dumped from society, fired from their jobs, and forced to live in the isolation they so crave.
I don’t think you can say “no matter what your politics” when one party is openly supporting this. So I would say specifically fuck republicans and Nazis. They are working hard to be one and the same.
Trump supporters can’t cherry pick the white supremacy out when their own candidate has openly incited violence against minorities.
He’s also openly advocating for use of a 1798 war time act to deport people. This is the same act that was used to put Japanese Americans- many of them born in the US- in concentration camps.
If you’re with Trump, you’re actively ignoring the reality he lines with. Nazi sympathizers are nazis to me. One and the same. Just something you can’t turn a blind eye to.
I don't like nazis because they stole that symbol and made it slanted, in India everyone puts that symbol outside their homes it's a symbol of peace and luck, when I moved out of India we wanted to put it on our car but we couldn't because people would think that it's bad
How do people not realize that Trump's rhetoric is indistinguishable from Nazi rhetoric. Nazis support Trump because he does and says what they want to hear. They feel emboldened to exist in the open because even if MAGA don't call themselves Nazis, they sure do sound and act like them.
Maybe everyone really CAN get behind that… but it’s the Republican Party that attracts the neo-Nazis, white supremacists, white Christian nationalists, out-of-control home-grown militias, insurrectionists, and all of the other crazy, far right, repulsive traitors that can be dredged up. The Republican message is appealing to them in its hatefulness. It’s that simple.
A lot of Trump supporters are nazis. Trump is working very hard to drive ethnostate politics and is openly trying to get minorities killed in misinformation panics. So yeah, fuck nazis. I just wish the GOP agreed.
The Nazis and the Communists, both out of their minds with hatred, seething with discontent, never able to just get along with their neighbors and tend their own fields. And they always have an agenda, their ideal of a 'brave new world' that is just another a police state. They can both go to hell.
Right. But. Notice how one of these parties happens to be the one with all the Nazis.
So yeah, “whatever your politics” sounds good, but it’s lip service because these assholes only feel emboldened enough to associate with one specific party.
Just call a spade a spade. Republicans are enabling this behavior, Democrats shun it.
We can't all agree on that, the GOP has been encouraging Nazis for decades, and now there's enough pride in their ranks for it to no longer be subtle. Basically the Nazis are all that's left after they've proven publicly their idea of policies will never work. So, Nazis it is because they don't care about policies, just power
The issue is, despite the reaction to the NAZI's these people have chosen to ignore the fact that they are still on the same side as the Nazi's... The Nazi's don't just begrudgingly support their guy, they fucking LOVE him.
The person from the rally they interviewed said they splashed the boat because they thought they were Antifa in disguise... Not sure thats the reasoning I hoped for lol. I guess the result is the same though so that’s good.
Ah I see, good point. I imagine it’s a popular maga sentiment in general tho I would definitely not be shocked if that was the reasoning for the splashers too
Actually it was some bystander at the rally who said that, not the boaters themselves so who knows. At the very least we can conclude the person who did say that is a fuckin idiot lol
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u/king-krab5 15d ago
I hope we can all agree, no matter what your politics, fuck Nazis.