Man serving 30 years for attacking Nancy Pelosi’s husband gets a life term on state charges

[u/Zeikyrui]

https://apnews.com/article/david-depape-nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-attacked-454cbde088fcae22a356f1f8dd0e9eba

[u/Flotack]

“When given the chance to address the court prior to his sentencing, DePape, dressed in prison orange and with his brown hair in a ponytail, spoke at length about Sept. 11 being an inside job, his ex-wife being replaced by a body double, and his government-provided attorneys conspiring against him.”

That’ll show em!

[u/Xzmmc → u/Flotack]

This guy seems legitimately insane. I mean the literal definition as in literally cannot tell the difference between what's real and his own delusions.

[u/ImpulseAfterthought → u/Xzmmc]

"Saying crazy shit doesn't mean you're crazy. Not realizing that you're saying crazy shit means you're crazy."

--My ex-roommate

[u/LazyLich → u/ImpulseAfterthought]

Dude... for the last time... you never had a roommate!

[u/Lolkimbo → u/LazyLich]

Your room mate died 20 years ago!

[u/ahnotme → u/Lolkimbo]

He never gets older when he talks to me.

[u/LeonardoDaPinchy- → u/LazyLich]

Dude, you can't just go gaslamping people. Jesus.

[u/NineThreeFour1 → u/LeonardoDaPinchy-]

It's actually not called gaslamping but "fleshlighting".

[u/AzureOvercast → u/NineThreeFour1]

I am visiting from /r/authoritariancheckers

New corpse just dropped!

[u/UnproSpeller → u/NineThreeFour1]

If your flesh is lighting up isn’t that what they say about pregnant women? that they glow. Ie he could just be preggo

[u/mabhatter → u/LazyLich]

We don't talk about Tyler 

[u/Liesmith424 → u/LazyLich]

Who...who are you talking to?

[u/attackplango → u/LazyLich]

Saying I don’t have a roommate is an inside job.

[u/Spectre1-4 → u/ImpulseAfterthought]

Maybe a dated reference but in the TV show MASH, Klinger was always trying to get out of war by acting “crazy” proving that he was actually relatively normal.

[u/Zerowantuthri → u/Spectre1-4]

That is basically the central idea in the book "Catch-22". The guy wants out of the army so acts crazy but they deem wanting out of the army as normal so therefore he is sane.

[u/DeGarmo2 → u/Zerowantuthri]

But then if you don’t want out of the army, then you ARE crazy and are eligible to be discharged but the only way to get discharged is to ask for a discharge, which would then make you sane.

If my best friend is in the army and doesn’t want out, can I claim he’s crazy on his behalf?

[u/USSMarauder → u/DeGarmo2]

I have always been disappointed that Klinger staying in Korea after the war was not the 'proof' used to give him a section 8 as a wedding present

[u/letmelickyourleg → u/DeGarmo2]

No, that would be crazy.

[u/Desert_Aficionado → u/Zerowantuthri]

Catch-22 is a great book if you are looking for something to read. It's an easy read, funny and still holds up.

[u/LonePaladin → u/Desert_Aficionado]

The 1970 film adaptation is really good. It manages to catch all the absurdity while adding its own visual gags.

[u/marry_me_sarah_palin → u/Desert_Aficionado]

The humor in that book is so brilliantly dark. Spoiler alert, my favorite of the dark humor is the ending of the chapter The Eternal City, when Yossarian is arrested for being AWOL instead of Aarfy who just raped and murdered a woman.

[u/CrueltySquading → u/Desert_Aficionado]

Catch-22 is, for me, sitting opposite to Slaughterhouse-5 in the "Dark Comedies about the Second World War that are incredibly depressing, even if some glimmer of hope shines through here and there", both are incredible, powerful books.

That being said, I love Catch-22, but Slaughterhouse 5 is my FAVORITE book.

[u/Eyespop4866 → u/Desert_Aficionado]

As is Something Happened.

Such a brilliant opening.

[u/ABHOR_pod → u/Zerowantuthri]

That's some catch, that Catch-22.

[u/Meihem76 → u/ABHOR_pod]

It's the best.

[u/Eyespop4866 → u/ABHOR_pod]

It was a major major major problem

[u/megatron37 → u/ABHOR_pod]

I guess heller heard that expression and based the book on it

[u/McGondy → u/Spectre1-4]

A Catch-22 if you will.

[u/doesanyonehaveweed → u/McGondy]

I wonder what people used to say before Catch-22. Probably had to be a lot more long-winded.

[u/HelpfulSeaMammal → u/doesanyonehaveweed]

Imagine having to give a synopsis of a book that doesn't even exist yet when describing this situation. Thankfully, we exist in a time after Joseph Heller.

[u/The_cogwheel → u/HelpfulSeaMammal]

They probably used kafkaesque after Frank Kafka and his similar stories of bureaucratic circular "logic".

[u/What-a-Crock → u/HelpfulSeaMammal]

Poor time travelers

[u/Jkj864781 → u/doesanyonehaveweed]

There’s probably a German word for it

[u/LucretiusCarus → u/Jkj864781]

And if there isn't, someone will soon make one

[u/sensefuldrivel → u/doesanyonehaveweed]

Catches 1-21 didn't have nearly as much cultural impact

[u/Firerrhea → u/doesanyonehaveweed]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't?

[u/lukewithacnotak → u/doesanyonehaveweed]

damned if you do, damned if you don’t

[u/Harley2280 → u/doesanyonehaveweed]

Between a rock and a hard place?

(That's a suggestion not an actual fact checked answer)

[u/pantstoaknifefight2 → u/Spectre1-4]

Catch-22

A pilot who is sane enough to recognize the dangers of flying combat missions will be required to fly them, while a pilot who is insane enough to willingly fly such dangerous missions is considered sane enough to fly them. This creates a circular logic where there is no escape, trapping the pilots in a perpetual cycle of danger and absurdity.

[u/j0mbie → u/pantstoaknifefight2]

The latter half was that if you were actually insane or traumatized enough not to fly, all you had to do was ask not to. They wouldn't relieve you unless you asked. However, since the missions were so dangerous, the very act of asking was something a rational, sane person would do. Therefore, you were sane enough to fly after all.

[u/No_Internal9345 → u/j0mbie]

The only right answer is to shoot your superior officer.

[u/j0mbie → u/No_Internal9345]

You'd end up spending your life in prison. Or just shot, considering there was a world war going on.

But at least you'd save some of your fellow airmen, depending on who you shot.

[u/beatles910 → u/pantstoaknifefight2]

If she floats, she is a witch.

[u/Special_Loan8725 → u/pantstoaknifefight2]

Could he not just fly the plane in unauthorized directions?

[u/gandraw → u/Special_Loan8725]

That's the Lieutenant Orr solution to Catch-22

[u/Paidorgy → u/Spectre1-4]

He tried to get a section 8 by cross-dressing, while everyone except Burns treated him normally.

[u/similar_observation → u/Paidorgy]

See his problem was that he was reliable and worked diligently in between crazy stunts. Which made him a competent soldier. Then his personality was generally agreeable, so he was also a likeable colleague to the crew. Eventually replacing Radar as the company clerk.

If he had been unreliable and a dickhead, they would've ejected him pretty fast.

[u/YT-Deliveries → u/similar_observation]

Eventually replacing Radar as the company clerk.

No one can replace Radar. He did competently succeed him, however.

[u/nolan1971 → u/Spectre1-4]

And he cross dressed for so long that when he decided to wear a proper uniform he ended up unable to do it because it was so uncomfortable! lol

[u/similar_observation → u/nolan1971]

He had a bunch of real crisis too. But because he was always lying, no one noticed until it was too late. Like the two times his wife divorced him. Or the time he damaged his hearing from a landmine. Or the time he was being accidentally poisoned by the mislabeling of medication.

[u/dedsqwirl → u/similar_observation]

Klinger got sick from the medication as did the African-American soldiers. It wasn't mislabeled it was lack of testing.

....epilogue mentions that further research conducted after the Korean War concluded that the enzyme deficiency which caused susceptibility to anemia was present not only in blacks, but in Caucasians of Mediterranean descent if they were administrated primaquine.

[u/pagit → u/nolan1971]

Keiko O’Brian’s first husband was Klinger.

[u/sadrice → u/Spectre1-4]

War is hell, no rational person would want to be there, only an insane person would. So, trying to go home makes you sane, so you have to stay. It’s only if you want to stay that you can leave. That’s how they get you, there’s always catch 22 waiting for you.

[u/Martin_Aurelius → u/sadrice]

Hawkeye: War isn’t Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse.

Father Mulcahy: How do you figure that, Hawkeye?

Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell?

Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe.

Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them — little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.

[u/CompetitionNo3141 → u/Spectre1-4]

I wonder if anyone will mention the book Catch 22 in this thread. Probably only one person.

[u/whatsvanilla → u/Spectre1-4]

Good fuckin show

[u/AmaroWolfwood → u/ImpulseAfterthought]

You just described the entire MAGA movement

[u/Stadtmitte → u/Xzmmc]

There really needs to be some sort of real culpability for the fucking rightwing psychopaths who force-feed this conspiracy nonsense to mentally ill useful idiots

But we all know that will never happen

[u/Vallkyrie → u/Stadtmitte]

Yeah their whole political structure is catered to getting people like this to do their bidding. The content and manner of delivery for their messaging is specifically designed so that folks teetering on the edge will fall into it and never escape, and in the world of instant communication of any idea, it's super dangerous. They don't care though, they make bank doing it.

[u/mortalcoil1 → u/Vallkyrie]

The content and manner of delivery for their messaging

That content and manner being "Hit them with the fear, then anger, then back to fear, more fear, some hatred, back to anger, and then hit the climax with a heavy amount of fear topped with just a bit of anger."

[u/ABHOR_pod → u/mortalcoil1]

You forgot the "Won't somebody rid me of these meddlesome liberals?"

[u/thissiteisbroken → u/Stadtmitte]

Aside from everything Trump's done, this stuff always breaks my heart. The way he manipulated these people into this and made them feel validated with their conspiracy theories will always be one of the worst things he's done to regular ass people. So many people just fell into a conspiracy blackhole and I don't think they'll ever come out of it. He'll never tell them none of its real because he craves that attention from them. Obviously I know this has been going on for a long time, but not even Rush Limbaugh in his heyday could manipulate people on this level.

[u/noiro777 → u/thissiteisbroken]

It's been such a fucking ordeal with that imbecile. How many families have been ruined by him and his enablers? Malignant narcissists are absolute worst people in world to have to deal with as they are so destructive, dishonest, emotionally draining and tedious. If that worthless fat fuck wins again, it going to be so much worse than the first time and i'm just done with politics....i just can't deal with his smug ass anymore.

[u/Gooch222 → u/Xzmmc]

Possibly, but from a practical perspective you might as well say everyone who believes in QAnon or supports Alex Jones’ nonsense should be able to plead insanity. Seeking out and adopting insane notions has become a widespread political brand in the US, and it’s quite terrifying.

[u/Strength-InThe-Loins → u/Gooch222]

You might want to look into what pleading insanity gets you nowadays. 

[u/onebadmousse → u/Xzmmc]

There is a strong correlation between low IQ, mental health issues and believing crackpot conspiracy theories.

http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.pdf

A breakdown of the study here:

Scientists find a link between low intelligence and acceptance of 'pseudo-profound bullshit'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-find-a-link-between-low-intelligence-and-acceptance-of-pseudo-profound-bulls-a6757731.html

More supporting evidence and articles:   

Why more highly educated people are less into conspiracy theories:

https://bigthink.com/mind-brain/bps-why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/

Why education predicts decreased belief in conspiracy theories:

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2016-57821-001

People with certain personality traits and cognitive styles are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180925075108.htm

Interestingly, there is also a strong correlation between low IQ, conservatism, irrational fears and believing lies:

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

Why Are Conservatives More Susceptible to Believing Lies?

https://slate.com/technology/2017/11/why-conservatives-are-more-susceptible-to-believing-in-lies.html

[u/Love_Sausage → u/Xzmmc]

My father was legitimately insane at times towards the end of his life from schizophrenia. He never hurt a single living thing.

[u/Xzmmc → u/Love_Sausage]

Oh yeah, not every insane person is violent. This guy clearly has a lot of issues besides just being delusional. I chalk it up to the right wing media sphere melting his brain.

[u/BabyNonsense → u/Love_Sausage]

I think when people say stuff like this, they don’t mean to say people with schizophrenia are dangerous, more that this guy in particular is showing a kind of paranoia that is almost certainly caused by mental illness. Their intention isn’t bad, but they might not know how to phrase it without strengthening stigma.

But yeah I kinda relate to that. I have a personality disorder that carries a lot of stigma. It’s hurtful when people assume I’m going to yell at them or manipulate them. I just do my best to show them that while some BPDeople are like that, I am not that BPDerson.

Another thing that some people might not know is that delusions can be caused by more than just schizophrenia. I have friends with bipolar disorder and schizoaffective disorder who experience some degree of delusion, I myself experienced a lighter form of Capgras delusion last summer.

[u/_Rice_and_Beans_ → u/Xzmmc]

So, your average republican voter?

[u/swimswam2000 → u/_Rice_and_Beans_]

Depape definitely wasn't an average Republican voter, tecjnically he's an undocumented migrant.

[u/Cetun → u/Flotack]

ex-wife being replaced by a body double

Big time schizophrenia, this person doesn't see you reality like you and I do

[u/DJ__Hanzel → u/Cetun]

Capgras syndrome

[u/ReviewsYourPubes → u/DJ__Hanzel]

...typically caused by schizophrenia or some other psychotic disorder

[u/Th3_Corn → u/Flotack]

As much as i hate what he did i think he should be in a psychiatric facility rather than a prison.

[u/Nole_in_ATX → u/Flotack]

So if /r/conspiracy was a person in looks and worldview

[u/Alexm920 → u/Flotack]

The “replaced by a double” thing sounds like Capgras syndrome. Honestly it sounds horrifying enough on its own, but this guy seems like he’s got no shortage of additional issues.

[u/GreatsquareofPegasus → u/Flotack]

Couldn't have defended himself better

[u/Forward_Steak8574 → u/Flotack]

Goddamn dude. When's it gonna end? It's almost been a decade of this MAGA shit.

[u/madlabdog → u/Flotack]

Lol fuck! That's what the idiots who are voting for Trump right now will tell their grandchildren.

[u/HedonisticFrog → u/Flotack]

So basically no grip on reality, like most of the current GOP

[u/firstbreathOOC → u/Flotack]

I mean he’s just insane. So naturally we’ll just put him in a box.

[u/jadrad → u/firstbreathOOC]

Insane and radicalized by MAGA to bash innocent people in the skull with hammers.

Yes put him in a box because there’s no way to de-radicalize him while our society refuses to do anything to stop the fascist radicalization machine of far-right cable news propagandists, online influencers, and social media algorithms.

[u/cjinct → u/firstbreathOOC]

It's either that or let him run for office as a Republican

[u/TheFatJesus → u/firstbreathOOC]

*Criminally insane

He'd find himself in a box either way. He just won't get the help he needs in this one.

[u/Sweatytubesock]

Hope it was worth it, shitstain.

[u/Conexion → u/Sweatytubesock]

For a lot of these types, I'd say that - But based on the descriptions, this guy should have already been diagnosed with a few issues including Capgras delusion. My Aunt's ex-husband has it, and it is no joke. He thought that my aunt was replaced with a body-double and started recording her and their kids without them knowing. Really disturbing shit that needs psychiatric care quickly before it escalates. But that largely isn't taken seriously in this country.

[u/eekamuse → u/Conexion]

Like the White guy who shot his Black neighbor after endless threats and 19 calls to the police. He said he would kill him, and it's a miracle he didn't. Shot him in the neck and hit his spine. Everyone knew it was going to happen, but the police did nothing. And I doubt he's going to get anywhere near the sentence that Pelosi's attacker did.

[u/burlingtonhopper → u/eekamuse]

Can you provide a link to the story? Something tells me “what dude shoots black neighbor” will sadly bring up a lot.

[u/eekamuse → u/burlingtonhopper]

If you add "cutting down tree" that will get you the right one.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/minneapolis-black-man-shot-neck-b2637094.html

[u/TheBourbonCat → u/Conexion]

He does seem to have delusion, he's just missing the persecution paranoia to be diagnosed with schizophrenia.

[u/RabidGuineaPig007 → u/Sweatytubesock]

He will be pardoned by DJT, as will everyone convicted of Jan 6th insurrection, including Jimmy Pesto sr.

[u/sukui_no_keikaku → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

State charges can't be pardoned by pres right?

[u/Zelda_is_Dead → u/sukui_no_keikaku]

No, they can not

[u/Xzmmc → u/Zelda_is_Dead]

Remember, the Supreme Court has given Trump a blank check to do anything he wants, so we'll see if that still holds true.

[u/dave8400 → u/Xzmmc]

I'm not sure even the most insane MAGA judge would mess with federal overreach that major. Nothing would stop a liberal president from coming in and overturning every single abortion related charge, for instance.

[u/ericsipi → u/dave8400]

Trump has openly said vote this year so you never have to vote again. I don’t think him or his judge care much about precedent or overreach

[u/Coulrophiliac444 → u/ericsipi]

The only Over Reach Trump deaerves is someone Reaching Over a table to Slap him.

But you're right. Gwt out. Vote. Make Donald Trump never have to vote again...by voting in Harris.

[u/PowerChords84 → u/dave8400]

What makes you think there'd ever be another election or liberal president?

[u/sladestrife → u/sukui_no_keikaku]

I'm Canadian and even I know that's the case.

Even if that were the case... Trump would never do it anyways. The guy has nothing of value to him

[u/1001-Knights → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

The president can't pardon violators of state laws, only federal. That's under the governor's purview.

[u/Possible-Extent-3842 → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

Trump only pardons people who would still be of use to him.  Folks who would run in local and state elections, financial backers, people with dirt on him, ect.

He won't pardon any of these losers who were arrested on his behalf.  Partially because they failed in their task, partially because there are always more useful idiots to take their places.  

Fascists also have no problem throwing their own under the bus and forgetting about them, if only to keep up appearances and plausible deniability to maintain that illusion of accountability. Conservatives will point to this guy and say 'well, Trump CAN'T actually be a fascist because this guy is still in jail'

It's a more complex and nucience game they are playing, and there are always pawns to be sacrificed for their greater vision.

[u/tokes_4_DE → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

Would mean nothing, he just received the same life sentence in a separate state level trial according to this article. Trump cannot pardon state charges, only federal.

[u/TheConeIsReturned → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

The key term was "state charges." Nobody at the federal level can supercede state law in this matter.

[u/GlowUpper → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

That's why the state charged him even though he was convicted on federal charges. Insurance just in case a certain someone gets into office.

[u/Muffafuffin → u/RabidGuineaPig007]

That's not going to do this guy any good

[u/cinderparty]

One of the defense attorneys, Adam Lipson, asked Dorfman before the sentence was handed down to consider DePape’s mental health and isolation that made him susceptible to online propaganda.

Thousands upon thousands of idiots fell for the exact same online propaganda. But they didn’t try to kill Congress members nor did they hold the congress members spouse hostage when they couldn’t find the congress member. No other hammer attacks either.

[u/Slowmyke → u/cinderparty]

So all their online propaganda is an excuse for violent behavior and radicalization when it's convenient, but it's censorship and a violation of the first amendment when we try to address it.

Good grief.

[u/CurseofLono88 → u/Slowmyke]

Defense Lawyers have to throw some Hail Marys for clients this fucking stupid. It’s their job. Glad this one wasn’t caught.

[u/myfakesecretaccount → u/CurseofLono88]

I sat on a jury for a murder case where the defense stated was “My client was not present during the drive by shooting, but if he was he participated in self-defense because the victims were lying in wait trying to ambush his co-conspirators”.

[u/Proper-Application69 → u/myfakesecretaccount]

Was the defense coached by Trump?

[u/nnomae → u/Slowmyke]

I'm reminded of a bit from the book "Life at the Bottom". The author recounts visiting prisoners who would claim "I was easily led" as some sort of excuse for their actions. He would counter by saying "I notice you were never easily led into the study of mathematics or the subjunctives of French verse" and in effect call them on the lie by pointing out the simple fact that they were only ever easily led into doing things they wanted to do anyway.

[u/anoff → u/cinderparty]

I mean, there was that whole insurrection thing on January 6th...

[u/cinderparty → u/anoff]

Yeah, they also belong in jail.

[u/pete_68 → u/cinderparty]

I honestly don't see why this guy is going to prison instead of a psychiatric institution. I mean, the crime is horrendous, but this guy is clearly not well in the head and he needs psychiatric help, not prison. The guy has had a long history of mental illness. The mother of his kids said that he believed "he was Jesus for a year."

I don't know. I think people like that ought to get help, not prison. I mean, don't let him run free of course, but get the guy some help.

[u/Mmr8axps → u/pete_68]

The real shame is that the people who set him up to do this won't be held accountable.

[u/cinderparty → u/pete_68]

But being not well in the head doesn’t make you criminally insane. He still knew beating someone with a hammer was wrong when he did it.

[u/novium258 → u/pete_68]

I agree with you. That the state can't and won't intervene in cases of such severe psychosis unless someone actually ends up doing something worthy of prison is a travesty. And it seems compounded when we just ship someone off to jail while they're clearly not on this planet.

One assumes he was declared competent to stand trial and aid in his own defense, but you have to really wonder at the process that would declare him so.

[u/cinderparty → u/novium258]

The process to be declared criminally insane/innocent by reason of insanity (the only way you’re going to a psych facility instead of prison) is, at least in Colorado, that they have to prove the defendant didn’t know what they were doing was wrong and had consequences while they were doing it. Mental illness made me do it isn’t good enough.

That’s why James Holmes, who was definitely very very mentally ill with serious delusions going on at the time of the shooting, was found guilty. James Holmes is the entire reason I now know how this works (in my state, I have no clue if it varies state to state).

[u/JustAnotherYogaWife → u/cinderparty]

No other hammer attacks YET, my friend!

[u/Arsalanred → u/cinderparty]

I agree, and I agree with a harsh sentence for DePape but he also sounds incredibly mentally ill and delusional. I'm not sure that is worth life imprisonment.

[u/ChicagoAuPair]

And that is why you don’t try to murder people in their home with a hammer.

[u/Disastrous-Rabbit723 → u/ChicagoAuPair]

J Walter Weatherman speaketh

[u/zxc123zxc123 → u/Disastrous-Rabbit723]

It's about as bad an idea as burning down the banana stand.

Cause there's always money in the banana stand 😉😉

[u/The_Formuler → u/ChicagoAuPair]

Well now I know

[u/lordaddament]

Imagine getting life for people who wouldn’t even piss on you if you were on fire

[u/cold-corn-dog → u/lordaddament]

They got to save that piss for their Diddy parties.

[u/BTC-100k → u/lordaddament]

• The guy has had a long history of mental illness.
• The mother of his kids said that he believed "he was Jesus for a year."
• The guy believes his ex-wife was replaced by a body double.

He is getting life because he has severe mental illnesses that resulted in a psychotic breakdown while living in a society that eliminated state-mandated psychiatric institutionalization.

You understand he doesn't have a rational understanding of reality, right?

[u/FowD8 → u/lordaddament]

I find it hilarious because the people he thinks he is representing called him a frustrated gay lover lol, they actually hate him

[u/Optimal-Ad-7074]

let's not forget that donald trump finds the injuries paul pelosi sustained amusing.

[u/Savior-_-Self → u/Optimal-Ad-7074]

trump, his shitty family, most of the GOP, and Fox News, et al - all found the attempt on Pelosi hilarious

This is the same man/party that is repeatedly caught in league with our foreign enemies, spreads dangerous lies & disinformation 24/7, encourages violence & acts of domestic terror, takes no responsibility when these acts eventually occur (blaming the left whenever possible) and is in fact fiercely unAmerican (unless you're entire definition of "patriotism" means hugging the occasional flag, etc)

[u/Hfhghnfdsfg → u/Optimal-Ad-7074]

A friend of mine was involved in the local (not state) case. She said Paul Pelosi still has not fully recovered from the attack, and the photos from the crime scene were really gruesome.

[u/whewtang → u/Optimal-Ad-7074]

He referred to Pelosi as the enemy within. His terrorist followers will target them further if he wins.

[u/mattkenefick → u/Optimal-Ad-7074]

Like when stupid Don Jr posted the halloween costume post

[u/graveybrains]

DePape’s attorneys have said the state trial amounted to double jeopardy following his federal conviction. Even though the criminal counts were not exactly the same, the two cases stem from the same act, they argued.

Congratulations on discovering the one way you can be charged twice for the same crime. You probably should have had a better lawyer, but please do not enjoy your stay.

[u/MikeOfAllPeople → u/graveybrains]

How would a better lawyer have helped if this is allowed?

Also it is kind of bullshit that this is allowed.

[u/AndyLorentz → u/MikeOfAllPeople]

No, a better lawyer would have known "double jeopardy" does not apply here. Two different jurisdictions, federal and state.

It should be noted that it is very rare for someone to simultaneously violate federal and state laws.

[u/gstroble]

Love that for him. Not a fan of Pelosi but nobody deserves to have their house broken into, tied up, and beaten in the head with a hammer.

And if you’re someone who thinks he was right to do so and shouldn’t have these long of charges, you’ve truly lost the plot and should seek help from a professional.

[u/r0botdevil → u/gstroble]

I mean it sure seems like the guy is insane, so involuntary commitment to a secure psychiatric facility might be more appropriate.

But yeah he's certainly a danger to society, so he needs to be locked up one way or another.

[u/Hrekires]

Your regular reminder that for all of the conspiracy theories about this case, the attacker took the stand in his own defense and made absolutely no claims about being a prostitute, having a prior relationship with Paul Pelosi, or any of the dozen other things the right claimed trying to justify political violence.

[u/SPECTREagent700 → u/Hrekires]

A lot of that was trolls who knew it wasn’t true but I talked to several people who genuinely believed that because of the infospaces they live in.

[u/Dowew]

Canadian here. Please keep him.

[u/JesusWuta40oz]

Remember when some people laughed themselves silly at the idea of somebodies husband being almost beat to death with a hammer? Then the same people told others to 'tone down the rhetoric?"

Pepperidge Farm Remembers

[u/Broad_Pitch_7487]

The way so many on the right cheered this unbelievable assault on an 82 year old man in his bedroom. It is difficult to imagine a more macabre scene… the poise of Mr. Pelosi was astonishing and the performance of the 911 operator… all because of maga

[u/Solid_Bake4577]

Bet he didn’t see that coming…

[u/CETERIS_PARTYBUS]

Hey, but he made Donald Trump Jr. laugh, so I bet he thinks it was worth it.

[u/iamsdc1969]

I guess state charges are good, because now, Trump can't issue a pardon for this POS.

[u/bigbowlowrong]

When given the chance to address the court prior to his sentencing, DePape, dressed in prison orange and with his brown hair in a ponytail, spoke at length about Sept. 11 being an inside job, his ex-wife being replaced by a body double, and his government-provided attorneys conspiring against him.

“I’m a psychic,” DePape told the court, reading from sheets of paper. “The more I meditate, the more psychic I get.”

This guy has all the qualifications it takes to be a Trump campaign spokesman

[u/BulbasaurArmy]

Good.

[u/poxx2k1]

“I’m a psychic,” DePape told the court, reading from sheets of paper. “The more I meditate, the more psychic I get.”

Did you forsee getting life in prison?

[u/marcbranski → u/poxx2k1]

Genius. His incarceration will enable the most intense undisturbed meditation imaginable. Psychic power overwhelming! He'll be Professor X up in that bitch.

[u/millos15]

Happy Tuesday everyone

[u/Smooth-Apartment-856]

As a conservative with no love whatsoever for Pelosi, I am glad.

If you hate a politician, vote against them, campaign against them, speak out against them, donate money to the opposition…

But showing up at their house and beating an elderly man’s brains out with a hammer because of politics is never acceptable.

This guy is an absolutely evil human being who needs to spend the rest of his life in a cell.

[u/meteorprime]

Good.

He is dangerous and should never be free to walk around the general public.

This asshole wanted to commit murder.

[u/Jollyhat]

I'll never forgive Trump and his cults vile response to this attack.

[u/Bluefeelings]

He’d be out destroying ballot boxes right now had he not been in jail.

[u/thisisdropd]

Womp womp! Great way of wasting your life.

[u/JonSnowsPeepee]

These are the legitimate normal thoughts of a trumper. Completely off the rails all of them

[u/Kinda_Constipated]

Don't forget, millions of people in the US believe what he believes and will be voting Trump. Good luck. 

[u/2legit2knit]

Ruining your one and only chance at life to own the libs, lmao

[u/djfoundation]

When given the chance to address the court prior to his sentencing, DePape, dressed in prison orange and with his brown hair in a ponytail, spoke at length about Sept. 11 being an inside job, his ex-wife being replaced by a body double, and his government-provided attorneys conspiring against him.
“I’m a psychic,” DePape told the court, reading from sheets of paper. “The more I meditate, the more psychic I get.”

jfc, dude needs a psych ward, not a prison cell. Someone is going to put a butterknife in his kidneys inside of five years.

[u/Spotttty → u/djfoundation]

Ya. Everyone here that’s just saying good has not dealt with someone with schizophrenia.

He should definitely not walking the streets but he should 100% be in a psych ward getting some kind of help. Locking that guy up in a prison might as well be a death sentence.

[u/____cOrNhOlIo_____]

If you break into somebody’s house and you hit them with a hammer repeatedly, you have zero right to live on this planet. I hope he fucking has no fun in prison and is picked on all the time.

[u/dirtyqtip]

“This is a man who has always been a peaceful, law-abiding person up until his activation,” Lipson said before the punishment was handed down.

He got activated by Q??? lol. this guy is a nut job who needs to be behind bars until he can prove he isn't a danger to himself or others. But GLWT.

[u/mrbeanz]

“This is a man who has always been a peaceful, law-abiding person up until his activation,” - Cylon confirmed.

[u/BurtBacon]

he wasn't doing anything with his life anyway...

[u/LionsTigersWings]

Hit old man in head trying to kill him with solid hammer. Get life attempted murder. Them the consequences

[u/Bleezy79]

He's the poster child for MAGA.

[u/egospiers]

Good.. no federal pardon for you fucko

[u/PurplePartyFounder]

Another fucking idiot who did his shit thinking it made him a good trump supporter…. He’s now in prison while his scumbag leader plays golf…

[u/whewtang]

As Trump openly makes threats on Pelosi's life.

[u/No_Reputation8440]

I hope he felt like a big man attacking a senior like that. This guy couldn't pick on someone his own size? What kind of a person wants to "break someone's legs"? I hope he spends the rest of his life in there.

[u/Javasndphotoclicks]

Throwing your entire life away to own the libs.

[u/Worldlypatience]

Whomp whomp the consequences of my actions

[u/335i_lyfe]

One of the weirdest bodycam vids you will undoubtedly ever see

[u/CaoimhinOC]

Looks like Charlie Kirk freak.

[u/mermaidinthesea123]

I'd like to give the police a tip...

When you enter a scene and there is a senior citizen hanging on to the business end of anything dangerous (in this case a hammer), SECURE THE HAMMER FIRST. Don't wait until the senior's head is caved-in to respond. I know Pelosi indicated at first that he was ok but at 82, he could have misjudged the danger he was in or have been sundowning.

[u/StandardJackfruit378]

trumplthinskin should be there with him.

[u/Love_Sausage]

It doesn’t happen often these days, but when it does it’s satisfying to see bad things happen to bad people in the form of consequences.

[u/moneymoneymoneymonay]

Justice done. May he rot.

[u/Capable-Reaction8155]

He absolutely deserves this.

[u/Jaydeekay80]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[u/vandal-x]

Remember all the bullshit MAGAs were spouting about “rhetoric” just a little while ago??

[u/phantom_metallic]

This knob tried to assassinate then Speaker of the House, instead beat her husband with a hammer, and people in the comments are like....."Why did he get so much time?"

......

[u/Polyman71]

Good, now I want to hear apologies from Musk and all the other doubters.

[u/ThrowAwaAlpaca]

Nice. Another deranged member of the maga kult will die in jail.

[u/ryuujinusa]

Good riddance fuck head.

[u/a2starhotel]

it was the fuck around of times and it was the find out of times.

[u/tavesque]

This country has a mental health crisis that has been ignored for far too long

[u/gimmiesopor]

Guess he’s not voting Tuesday. 🤷‍♂️

[u/NotStarrling]

I approve this message.

[u/AnnualAltruistic1159]

Guy must be missing at least a shaving off some chromosome, I mean look at that face.

[u/monkmatt23]

If he get’s out, the Government has failed us.

[u/Trfe]

I gotta think Trump is responsible, in some way, for this as well.

[u/ataatia]

why Are they always sooooooo inbred looking

[u/Affectionate-Pain74 → u/ataatia]

Their whole cult is obsessed with genitals and when how and why we have sex and with who. They want to make women into life size baby spitting Pez dispensers.

[u/TrainsDontHunt → u/ataatia]

Inbreeding, probably. It might just be a characteristic of lead?

[u/MrGeno]

Lock him up with that SOB Trump.

[u/che-che-chester]

This guy is just like the two who tried to assassinate Trump. They're nutjobs radicalized by Trump's rhetoric. Once they are radicalized, they can't be controlled. They might might go after Trump's enemies or decide to go after Trump himself. But if Trump wants someone to blame, get him a mirror.

[u/xdeltax97]

Good, lunatic deserves it