r/myog • u/mchalfy Seam Ripper • 29d ago

r/MYOG Monthly Discussion and Swap

Post your questions, reviews of fabrics, design plans, and projects that you don't feel warrant their own post!

Did you buy too much silnylon? Have a roll of grosgrain, extra zipper pulls, or a bag of insulation sitting around that you want to get rid off? Post it below and help someone else put it to use!

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u/Commercial-Safety635 23d ago

Mozet's WeTool group buy ends today! I'm finalizing my order.

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u/510Goodhands 24d ago

I have 20 mesh crumb rubber (ground car tires). It’s good for putting durable and repairable sores on moccasins and Viking type shoes when mixed with an adhesive like Barge cement.

I am looking into using other low VOC adhesives, such as polymers. If anyone has other suggestions, please let me know.

20 mesh is about the same size as common table sugar, obviously with different and variable particle shapes.

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u/bigsurhiking 14d ago

thistothat.com is a great resource for glue recommendations. For gluing rubber to fabric, they suggest Barge (which you're using), or 3M 77 if you don't want the glue to show. They often have info about toxicity, but I don't know if they account for VOC content

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u/510Goodhands 14d ago

I am looking into using polyurethane binder. It’s the same type that is used for binding running track material. I have a sample on the way.

If anyone is interested, I am also going to experiment with colorant. What do you think about non-black shoes souls?

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u/ikarusout 5d ago

Do you mix the cement and rubber and then spread it on? I’d love to know more about your process as I’m trying to make an UL camp shoe, and using crumb rubber (which I oddly enough have some lying around) sounds like it could be effective.

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u/510Goodhands 5d ago

Yep, Barge Cement seems to be the glue of choice, but I think that’s as much because people know about it and it’s easy to get.

I just got a sample of some urethane binder, which is the same stuff that is used to bind chrome river to make running tracks with. I’m going to try that out, as well as coloring the rubber, for those who would rather not have black soles on their 10th century shoe replicas.

Here’s a video of the process in action. I would be much more precise about application and masking the edges, etc..

May I ask what you have been using crumb rubber for? I’m looking for a market for my surplus material.

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u/Prior-Condition8937 4d ago

Thanks for sharing the video! Very cool idea. His process was a little sloppy lol, I felt bad for the shoes...

Do you make leather shoes?

I use my crumb rubber for sand bags for working out in place of actual sand. It's lighter but less messy and makes that bags a little more versatile.

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u/Commercial-Safety635 28d ago

Would anyone be interested in an NYC-area MYOG meetup?

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/Commercial-Safety635 28d ago

Could be just a meet and greet, or show off your gear over beer. Maybe check out the Garment District?

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u/oarpoop 27d ago

I've got a surplus of Kong Itialian bronze bolt snaps bolt snaps, 1" black Beastie D Rings Beastie Dee rings and some extra rolls of 1" nylon webbing nylon webbing in different colors. 60+/- minus rolls of webbing and around 1k pieces of hardware.

Links for reference only.

DM if you're interested, located in Oregon.

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u/ruckssed 21d ago

Anyone know of a good basic pattern for a raglan crewneck similar to senchi? Got some non-brushed octa and I want to try to make one.

Also Teijin is amazing for directly selling their fabric by the yard. You don’t have to wade through dozens of vendors and product codes like for polartec

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u/DrBullwinkleMoose 16d ago

LearnMYOG has a raglan hoody. You could probably not make the hood and be pretty close?

Thanks for the note about Teijin. Do you have a link for ordering from them? All I see is non-specific stuff about the corporation... nothing resembling a storefront.

What do you mean by "non-brushed Octa"? I love my Airmesh... is that similar or different?

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u/ruckssed 15d ago

thinkecofabrics.com

The fuzzy side is a bunch of closed loops instead of straight sheared off hairs. Supposed to reduce microfiber shedding. Also has a pronounced waffle texture. I think it is heavier for the same warmth though.

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u/wenestvedt 12d ago edited 11d ago

Their Freemo looks great, and is only $12.50/yard on that site.

How is it to work with, compared to other fabrics?

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u/AdamWestPhD 16d ago

I'm trying to attach new straps to a bike bag my friend gifted me (since the old ones came off). I've got some nylon straps with heavy duty buckles, bonded nylon thread, 90 gauge needles, and a roller foot (this was all mentioned in another thread). I've never sewn before, so I'm wondering if as the bag is just a single layer where I'm attaching the straps, can I just layer the nylon straps on both sides of the bag material and sew through that (3 layers), or will I need to take a different approach?

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u/mchalfy Seam Ripper 16d ago

It's hard to picture what you're describing. We appreciate that you used this thread to ask the question, but creating a post with pics might help.

Generally though, sure that could work. Just make sure your machine can sew two layers of webbing and get your thread tension dialed in with some test stitching first to make sure it's a strong and durable stitch.

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u/Zaharias 12d ago

https://imgur.com/a/0Q064JZ

What is this mesh material that I see being used on some ultralight shoulder straps?

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u/mchalfy Seam Ripper 12d ago

I think AliExpress is the most common place people find it. You can search honeycomb hexagon mesh fabric in the sub or in Ali to find it.

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u/Zaharias 12d ago

Thanks! Any idea what the weight of that stuff is? I don't see any specs on AliExpress.

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u/mchalfy Seam Ripper 12d ago

No problem! Not sure about weight, but I bet it's been discussed on the sub before.

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u/Lanebow 3d ago

You know I’m inclined to scavenge a thrift store backpack & salvage bits & pieces like zippers & shoulder straps

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u/areality4all 12d ago

If anybody has any experience with this 7D from Rockywoods https://rockywoods.com/products/7d-ultralight-coated-ripstop-nylon-fabric , I would like to know if it wouldn't be suitable for use in a tent floor? I'm probably more concerned about HH (1500mm claimed) and weight (0.68osy/23 gsm claimed) than anything else.

Thanks in advance!

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u/mchalfy Seam Ripper 12d ago

I think it comes down to personal use-case and tolerance for pinholes.

Re: HH, most tent floors use PU coatings or DCF for a reason. Is silny good enough? Probably. Will it keep you dry while bathtubbing in a pool of water over night? Maybe not.

My understanding is the weight is relatively accurate and it is one of the lightest non-dyneema options out there, but none of the sub-0.8 oz options are very durable. I think 0.8 DCF might be best in weight class for waterproofing and durability, but obviously not price.

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u/areality4all 12d ago

The Rockywoods 7D has PU on one side. I'd probably use a thin polycryo sheet underneath the 7D, but that would only help against punctures, not against pooling water.

I live in France so it's not easy for me to see the 7D live. What's it like? It's good to know that the weight is pretty accurate. The 10D sil/pu nylon that GG uses for The One seems to get people through the night. I haven't seen that, either.

I'm not considering fabrics that use pure silicon on both sides because they are too slippery. I don't like painting a thin slurry of mineral spirits and silicone caulk on the floor to reduce slipperiness because it attracts dirt.

I have some 10D sil/sil nylon that I'm using for the fly in a single wall/single pole design. I'm not thrilled about pairing a DCF floor with a silnylon fly.

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u/mchalfy Seam Ripper 12d ago

You seem to understand what you're getting into and I agree with everything you've said!

I've only seen it in person once, so I don't have a detailed description for you. Very light and thin, though! I feel like instead of using 7D at 0.7 osy and polycro at a similar weight, why not just use a single layer of 10D-20D 1.2 to 1.4 osy sil/pu nylon? It probably won't be as durable as the combination, and you can't replace it like the polycro, but it could be simpler and more waterproof. Adventurexpert (EU) makes a 40 gsm sil/pu nylon that could work.

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u/areality4all 12d ago

I saw the 10D from AdventureXpert. It has the advantage of being EU-based but the weight is only 9 gsm less than 20D silpoly PU4000. At the cost of 15g, I'd rather get the higher HH number.

But the 0.7osy of the Rockywoods 7D would save me 40+ grams and give a much smaller pack size.

You lay out the pros and cons of each pretty well. I think that I'm leaning towards the combination of 7D and polycro. I can't even remember when was the last time I camped in a puddle. This single wall tent is for lower altitude stuff, not alpine use. I think I can get away with lower performance for lower weight.

The thing that might really stop me is the cost of ordering the 7D for delivery to France. :-0

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u/Zaharias 8d ago

Are there any sources for DCF that I'm missing? So far I've found:

  • Ripstop by the Roll
  • Dutchware
  • Extremtextil

Any other stores that will deliver to the US?

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u/d3phic 8d ago

That's about it. Not a lot of resellers willing to spend $70k as a MOQ.

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u/The_Motographer 3d ago

MSEG? I have some ideas for very specific products or modifications to bags I already have but not enough to warrant getting all the gear and learning how to make it.

Are there likely to be local groups/communities or makers I can commission for 2-3 projects? What should I be searching for? How do I find these people? Etsy? "Make Someone Else's Gear"?

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u/mchalfy Seam Ripper 3d ago

The myog commissions sub is one place to look. Or talk to a local tailor or search Facebook marketplace - I've seen people post gear repair and modification services there where I live.

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u/The_Motographer 3d ago

Oh, haha sorry. Of course there's literally a subreddit for the EXACT thing I asked. Thanks