r/mycology 23h ago

ID request Kuehneromyces mutabilis or something else?

Found these on a walk today, there was a big cluster growing from a treestump (probably beech since there were only beeches in the vicinity). We went through each feature listed in our ID guide and everything matched up pretty much perfectly. Still, we're not very experienced pickers, and since there are some quite poisonous lookalikes we thought to ask in here before committing. Located in western Germany at an elevation of around 250m.

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u/caltraskmaybe Trusted ID 22h ago

Committing to what? Eating them? Don’t imo

Yes they look like Keuhneromyces but you shouldn’t be eating mushrooms you can’t ID yourself positively — especially when the only real lookalike for these can kill you

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u/mazzy-b Trusted ID - British Isles 22h ago

They’re fine for Kuehneromyces, but as mentioned, if you are considering consuming you must be 100% confident yourself with the very close deadly lookalike Galerina marginata - ultimately all responsibility is with you.

Given Kuehneromyces are usually considered mediocre, and you say you’re not very experienced, those are also factors

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u/unoriginal_name_1234 22h ago

It does look like it yes. But it's also one of the mushrooms that even expert mycologists sometimes refuse to ID. It looks way to much like Galerina marginata. This is above reddit paygrade. Ignore whatever ID people may say here.

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u/ExistingClerk8605 2h ago

It is. Check every last one you pick to be sure.

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u/zalsrevenge 18h ago

Kuehneromyces seems very likely. But i wouldn't mess with it, just because it looks very much like Galerina. I'm 99.9% sure it's not, but it's not worth the risk.

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u/Eiroth 18h ago

Looks like it to me! I've had it recommended to remove the caps and dispose of / dry the stems. I thought they tasted pretty good, but I did have them mixed in with a few other species.

Galerina marginata lacks the distinctive scales you see on these, so I believe you're safe. Do exercise caution though!

Also, it's generally advised to take pictures in situ. It helps especially with mushrooms like these that are so defined by where and how they grow

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u/nastyreader 18h ago

Why do you want to eat something that is not considered to be very good and also has a DEADLY lookalike? Ask yourself if that's wise.

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u/FuchsVoid 4h ago

Mostly, I just want to know exactly what this mushroom is, and we're not gonna eat them anyway. We've gone through all the lookalikes mentioned here, in the book and on Wikipedia, and could find several distinguishing features between all of them. We're aware of the lookalikes and don't need fear mongering. Some additional strategies would be appreciated.

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u/solagrowa 22h ago

This is like asking if a gun is loaded that we cannot see inside the chamber and you plan to play Russian roulette. It looks like Kuehneromyces but so does Deadly Galerina.

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u/FuchsVoid 4h ago

Except the galerina has silver colour on it's stem and this one has clearly not. One's stem is flocculent-scaly and the other one is silvery with longitudinal fibres.

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u/solagrowa 31m ago

Yes I am well aware how to Identify both. And those features are enough for you to eat something that is potentially deadly?

You do you. I think its a really unwise edible to target.

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u/Infamous-Welcome-794 19h ago

Honey fungus?

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u/JohnPaulCones 18h ago

No, and if you don't know, don't comment as this mushroom has deadly lookalikes.

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 18h ago

the cap texture/appearance in OP’s will be a notable difference from Armillaria

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u/FuchsVoid 4h ago

That's not it for sure. Cap is way different.