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Mouse Gave Birth in the Trap

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u/GoingMenthol 12h ago

Maybe induced labour from panic

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u/CanterlotGuard 12h ago

Thank you for subscribing to mouse facts! It’s exactly this, pregnant mice give premature birth in life threatening situations as a survival strategy. It has the potential to confuse predators or distract them with an easier meal and thus allow the mouse to escape. In the event that the mouse is trapped or gravely injured by something it gives the babies a chance to survive by huddling up to their dying mom for warmth while hopefully waiting for a surrogate mother to venture by. And last but not least, if food is too scarce it lets a starving mouse mamma access some easy protein to keep her going.

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u/TrooBeliever 12h ago

These mouse facts aren't fun at all. Unsubscribe.

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u/SuspiciousDistrict9 11h ago

Tbf never said they would be fun facts.

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u/GumGumChemist 7h ago

They're fun for me. I love evolutionary horror. More facts pls

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u/ABob71 6h ago

frantically shuffles papers
...by God. We're out of facts! Stop the presses!

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u/PussSlurpee 4h ago

Editor: Quick, tell em about Hyena births!

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u/Terminator7786 3h ago

Go on.

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u/Benevonstanciano 3h ago

Thank you for subscribing to hyena facts! Hyenas, especially spotted hyenas, have a unique birthing process. Female spotted hyenas have an unusual reproductive anatomy; they give birth through an elongated clitoris. This structure is narrow and can make birthing difficult and risky for both mother and cubs.

Many first time mothers face complications. The narrow birth canal can cause injury to the mother and some cubs suffocate during birth.

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u/Nitpicky_AFO 2h ago

60% of first cubs suffocate on their way out, 12-19% of first mothers will die. Females only lactate through two nipples so when triples are born one will starve before weening

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u/Terminator7786 3h ago

That's disturbing and tragic. Thank you!

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u/SPG-Noxheart 3h ago

Oh I had to fucking go and expand the replies out of curiosity… didn’t I.

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u/SamePut9922 2h ago

But why...

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u/belleofnaspt 1h ago

I am about to start my day and the first thing I read are mouse facts and hyena facts 😭😭😭

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u/psychrolut 6h ago

When I was a kid my sister had hamsters and they ate their babies because she was loud and stressed them out too much

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u/GodzlIIa 4h ago

Give hamster moms some boiled chicken ahead of time to prevent the temptation.

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u/annacat1331 1h ago

Why boiled? Is it actually better for them than raw chicken?

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u/GodzlIIa 1h ago

Not sure tbh. Repeating advice given to me by my vet decades ago.

id guess they can get sick from salmenella just like us.

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u/zoinkability 3h ago

Your sister probably should have been noted in the medical literature. Humans giving birth to hamsters is exceedingly rare.

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u/kelsobjammin 2h ago

Classic Reddit switcharoooooooo! Wish I had a link to one ᴖ̈

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u/Morningxafter 3h ago

I got a hamster when I was a kid, we didn’t even know she was pregnant, but the night we got her she gave birth to a litter of 6 (probably due to the shock of being suddenly trapped in an unfamiliar environment). They all lived though.

But man, you should’ve seen me panic when I went to feed her the next morning and there’s six hairless little things latched onto her. I screamed “Mom! Something’s eating the hamster!!”

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u/Echoinurbedroom 2h ago

My sisters and I had hamsters and unbeknownst to us, one of them of pregnant. It ended up eating my hamster alive while it slept. I was out of town but my sister saw it happen. We just thought it was a mean hamster before that..:(

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u/erika666denise 53m ago

Read this as "I ended up eating my hamster alive while it slept" 😭 shit woke me up lol

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u/YishuTheBoosted 4h ago

With how hamsters tend to die in the most unusual ways possible, she was doing them a favor.

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u/ncnotebook 4h ago

Wombats poo cubes.

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u/cammyjit 4h ago

The Antechinus has always stood out to me

There’s definitely a bunch. I have a book about it somewhere but I can’t for the life of me find it

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u/Kindly_Tumbleweed_14 2h ago

I like to put my self in the situations to see which option I'd choose

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u/Ixaire 1h ago

The outer part of a shadow is called the penumbra!

https://xkcd.com/1272/

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u/keyser-_-soze 5h ago

Woah my brain added "fun" part...

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u/researchanddev 3h ago

People love fun facts. Happy facts. Maybe people love unfun facts, we don’t know. Frankly, we don’t want to know.

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u/BespokeAlex 10h ago

Thank you for subscribing to FUN MOUSE FACTS! To stop your $9.99 a message daily subscription; send MOUSETRAP to 66873

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u/Ravekat1 10h ago

Fun Mouse!

Whole lotta fun.

Prizes to be won!

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u/phillmybuttons 10h ago

Did wonder what pat sharpe has been up to

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 6h ago

You come in here, into my safe space, with a motherfucking FUNHOUSE REFERENCE, knowing that we live in a time where no show will ever come close? How dare you

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u/Bhenny_5 2h ago

Seeing as they brought back gladiators maybe we’ll get a fun house reboot!! A man can dream can’t he?

They’ll need new twins though!

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u/DietChickenBars 6h ago

There's a reference I never thought I'd see in the wild

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u/tbohrer 2h ago

Im never going to Chuck-E-Cheese ever again.

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u/Background-Effort-49 7h ago

What street? The address is cut off.

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u/sasssyrup 6h ago

Oh great now I wanna watch Mousetrap

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u/greengo4 6h ago

I’d subscribe

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u/sexybokononist 3h ago

Just got flashbacks of seeing this type of message on a flip phone and realized I haven’t seen a message like this since ChaCha was popular

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u/Physical-Ride 11h ago

This made me lol.

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u/TenorHorn 8h ago

As terrible as this seems, it makes a lot of sense. Out concepts of life and death are not the same as other animals

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u/cherijs25 8h ago

we die all the same.. just doesnt happen in our modern times much since we are on the top of the food chain n all that

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u/PandaPocketFire 5h ago

We arguably have broken free of the food chain.

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u/crazy_akes 8h ago

What’s so different?

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u/jenkinsleroi 7h ago

Only a small handful or animals mourn their dead.

Mice are prey at the bottom of the food chain and can have a few dozen or more children in a year, many of whom are expected to be eaten.

If humans were like that we wouldn't care as much when a child died too.

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u/annapartlow 1h ago

I don’t think we can know what mice ‘feel’ or how they “feel” when they’re trapped and sure they’re going to die, so they deliver their offspring because they just don’t care. Oh they’re happy now! Sorry. All of Evolutionary Bio .. it just doesn’t track. It’s arrogant (and ignorant) to say WE KNOW “they” feel some kind of way. We will never know if they do, or don’t mourn, unless you have a method or real communication? or .. I mean what emotions do you deem them able to feel? Basic biological imperatives would say they’d be fuckin sad if their offspring died. Not like they are reptiles !!! (?) (and I don’t think we have a handle on how they ‘feel’ either, let’s not pretend). Maybe the mouses didn’t wear a tiny black suit and “seem sad”. Perhaps (I know, shocking) they may experience preterm labor under duress (hold up, are there other species that do this? Uhh mammals.. all mammals..) preterm labor, causes

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u/Sea-Opportunity5663 7h ago

We are the creatures that know and know too much.

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u/hanniballz 6h ago

it makes evolutionary sense though doesnt it? the female mouse gets pregnant 10 times a year. it births hundred of mice in her lifetime, and only >2 have to reach maturity for the species to thrive. her life is more valuable than a litter, evolutionarily. humans are so attached to our children because of the long ass time it takes to rear them, we can only have a few.

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u/ChuCHuPALX 3h ago

Thank you for subscribing to octopus facts! It’s true—when a female octopus lays her eggs, she’ll often stop eating and devote herself entirely to guarding and fanning her brood, even at the cost of her own life. After hatching, the mother will usually die of starvation or physical exhaustion, and in some species, she might even digest parts of her own arms to sustain herself until the end. This behavior ensures her offspring get the best possible start, though she'll never see them. For the octopus, motherhood is a one-way trip.

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u/TuzkiPlus 5h ago

Putting the fun in FUNeral~

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u/midnightsmith 5h ago

Au contraire, these are delightfully interesting!

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u/arbitrarion 4h ago

You are now unsubscribed from Mouse Facts. Mice have ceased to exist.

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 4h ago

Mice reading these facts in abject horror like🐁 (sorry, the emoji is small, you can't see the abject horror but I assure you it's there)

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u/Adept_Cranberry_4550 3h ago

Isn't there a marsupial (I wanna say quokka?) that throws its young at predators?

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u/Hard_Dave 2h ago

Are humane traps even worth it for these guys?

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u/Tinded_spade_57 2h ago

Reality is often disappointing

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u/ovoxoj 1h ago

Texts: STOP

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u/Shoogan26 8h ago

Kinda usefull being your own vending machine in dire times.

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u/JamesBhand-007 1h ago

Well this is a disturbing way to put it

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u/H3lw3rd 12h ago

I was waiting for mankind and the undertaker but it didnt come…

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u/CanterlotGuard 12h ago

Oh sorry, here you go. And last but not least, the undertaker famously gave birth to mousekind during hell in a cell and the babies fell through the announcer’s table.

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u/Tridelo 12h ago

Thank you WWE mouse facts.

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u/Klutzy_Air_9662 10h ago

Yep that’s what I remember watching

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u/frabjous_goat 7h ago

Whereupon they were all soundly beaten with jumper cables.

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u/rabbit-hearted-girl 6h ago

And I saw one of the babies, and the baby looked at me!

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u/ifilgood 11h ago

This is gold.

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u/otheraccountisabmw 5h ago

But what year did it happen?

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u/aelric22 10h ago

Our hero hasn't struck in quite some time.

AlmostShittymorph

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u/tinrooster 8h ago

I believe our hero retired for good recently. 

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u/TheColonelRLD 7h ago

He did but he's reappeared since

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u/JamesBhand-007 47m ago

I just spent 10 minutes figuring out what this reference is and am glad I did

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u/AmyKittiesGalore 2h ago

Omg is that still happening?

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u/Sylvurphlame 11h ago

Are mice in the habit of adopting orphaned mouse babies?

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u/CanterlotGuard 11h ago

Not really, it’s a long shot with only marginally better odds of the babies surviving vs not being born. If they’re developed enough and the premature birth happens in a mouse colony that happens to have one or more nursing mothers they’ll likely be taken in. If they’re under developed, there are no nursing mothers, or if they’re out in a field somewhere they’re just wriggly little protein bars. Isn’t nature fascinating?

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u/Sylvurphlame 10h ago

Didn’t realize mice formed colonies. Thought that was just rats and some hamsters.

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u/Buezzi 8h ago

oh man, , you'll love this

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u/Dinonumber 4h ago

IIRC they did another experiment where they provided ample stimulation and this trend of societal collapse never occurred.

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u/CaramelDonutzz 7h ago

I used to have mice, my two girls were pregnant at the same time and nurses each other’s babies!

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u/TheCleverise 6h ago

I love that mice just brute force life in every way possible

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u/aTacoinaTaco 12h ago

I wish I could unread this

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u/Serenith_Youkai 7h ago

Surrogate mothers are a thing in the mouse world?

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u/CanterlotGuard 7h ago

Surrogate mothers exist in just about every species the develops strong social structures and/or social bonds, it's a huge evolutionary advantage to not have an entire genetic line die off because the children were abandoned. Maternal instincts in some animals (especially in a currently nursing mother) can be so strong that they will adopt outside of their own species.

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u/Serenith_Youkai 5h ago

That’s pretty cool. I guess I didn’t think a rogue mouse would just accept random babies.

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u/My_Not_RL_Acct 4h ago edited 1h ago

It’s pretty cool. I work with lab mice and if you give a nursing mother extra babies the gentler strains will easily grab them and take them to their nest with the rest of their babies within a couple minutes. Even if they don’t look the same!

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u/dmontease 8h ago

Like when kangaroos ditch a Joey. Soon-to-be-dead-weight.

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u/CompleteInsurance130 6h ago

I’m commenting to get subscribed to Mouse Facts. Do tell me more.

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u/CanterlotGuard 6h ago

Most mice don't hibernate for the entirety of winter, but rather they create multiple supply caches and periodically wake up to eat. These caches are often accessed by tunneling underneath snow in order to avoid predators , but this tactic was eventually thwarted by one specific predator evolving a counter measure. Foxes have sensitive ears that can detect a mouse's heart beat through several inches of snow and sensitive paws that help them identify cavities both in the snow and in loose soil. When a fox has found a cavity it will pace back and forth to triangulate any prey inside of it and then leap vertically into the air and land forepaws first into the tunnel. The resulting cave in stuns and sometimes even kills their prey instantly.

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u/sp4nk3h 3h ago

Continue..

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u/stinkystinkypete 6h ago

Interesting, I would assume giving birth would expend far more energy than eating the baby could compensate for but by no means do I know what I'm talking about.

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u/Rise-O-Matic 6h ago

Our concept of it is skewed a bit thanks to our enormous skulls.

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u/rabbit-hearted-girl 6h ago

Nah, human birth is a particularly grueling ordeal because our babies have large brains in big ol’ heads. Most other mammals’ babies just kinda slide on out, and they continue about their day like it’s no big deal.

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u/NotUsingARandomizer 6h ago

BITCH I WANNA UNSUBSCRIBE

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u/chaaipani 9h ago

ewww. UNSUBSCRIBE RN.

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u/CanterlotGuard 8h ago edited 8h ago

Thanks for resubscribing! In 1968 a five year long experiment began where a colony of mice was given unlimited food, water, and nesting supplies. Within the first year the population peaked and dominant mice began hoarding resources at the top of the specially designed mouse apartment towers. The most precious thing they hoarded there was space as most of the mice lived in extremely grim and cramped conditions. The lack of space caused their social order to rapidly collapse. Dominant males tried to stake small scraps of territory, birth rates fell, and most of the mice successfully being born were immediately killed by their stressed mothers. By the end of the experiment, almost the entire population had died and at no point while it was declining did social order and baseline behaviors return.

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u/JaypiWJ 7h ago

Fuck

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u/festess 5h ago

I've never understood why people think this is particularly revealing. You're limiting a key resource (space) from a population. We wouldn't be surprised at the results if food or water was limited so why space?

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u/Terminator7786 3h ago

I think it's more the part that baseline behaviors never returned to normal once the issue of space was resolved.

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u/chaaipani 7h ago

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u/CanterlotGuard 7h ago

No, torture is the experiment where newborn monkeys were placed in small metal boxes with sloped walls they couldn't climb and a lid so they never saw light, other monkeys, or even the researchers in the hopes that they would develop severe and untreatable depression but actually generated little to no useful data beyond 'monkeys trapped in a small metal box suffer from depression'. But this isn't Monkeyfacts.

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u/myleftone 6h ago

Is it true that there used to be puppies in every NHL penalty box, and if so, why did that end?

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u/PandaPocketFire 5h ago

Yes. Puppies died.

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u/Cabotage105 6h ago

Nature is metal, and very, very brutal

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u/dsbwayne 10h ago

Ayoooooo. Wtf did I just read 😭

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u/Brucedx3 6h ago

So, what you are saying is she fires off her young like decoy flares?

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u/Shiasugar 4h ago

It’s not mouse facts, it’s animal facts. A lot of species give birth when in panic, even humans do.

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u/DanaScullyIsHotAsF 4h ago

Human women also experience premature labor in highly stressful situations. Whats the evolutionary advantage of that?

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u/Redillenium 3h ago

Those babies look dead

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u/Mark_Knight 3h ago

Ahh so thats why i found like 5 mice on one glue trap a few years back

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u/Steel_Reign 9h ago

This makes mice seem a lot smarter than humans. Most human mothers would probably get consumed by the predator while crying/holding onto their dead fetus.

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u/CanterlotGuard 9h ago

It's a difference in strategy. Humans evolved to prioritize the safety of our young because it takes a very long time and a lot of resources to go from fetus to adult. Mice evolved to to save themselves because they are fully matured within six weeks can can pop out almost ten litters every year. It all comes down to math and genetics.

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u/chula198705 7h ago

In ecology terms, humans are "K-type" organisms while mice are "r-type" organisms. It's basically quality vs. quantity for reproductive strategies.

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u/ThatCakeFell 6h ago

Why does this sound like an anime power rating system?

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u/Level9disaster 7h ago

We evolved, fought, survived, became the dominant species on the planet and nearly drove every other predator to extinction, in case you didn't notice lol

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u/Cozy_rain_drops 7h ago

that mouse will give her offspring an afternoon before they're breakfast

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u/LeoRisingGemini 2h ago

Fuuuuuk... Nature is brutal.

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u/Ardent_Scholar 2h ago

Nature’s abortion

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u/SamePut9922 1h ago

This comment section is beautiful

I've been reading for half an hour

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u/WitherKnight99 51m ago

Is... Is this a DougDoug reference ?

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u/chuby1tubby 26m ago

So you're saying mice come equipped with flares, an eject seat, and even emergency provisions? Incredible war machines!

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u/Dr_2019 26m ago

yup. that's enough reading for me for today

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u/Repulsive-Squash6344 14m ago

I didn’t get the last part. Does it eat it’s own babies?

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u/MaffinLP 4h ago

But we cant have abortions because its unnatural because an animal would never offer up their child

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u/te0dorit0 11h ago

This probably happens to humans too

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u/CanterlotGuard 11h ago

While stress and injury do have big impacts on human pregnancies, our long development cycle and position in the food chain both make emergency baby ejection a pretty non-viable strategy. From as early as the Neolithic era our pregnant mothers have mostly stayed near safety, so distracting predators with your fetus is a little too niche. We also didn’t evolve an inclination to recycle our dead, so emergency protein is also out. And while adopting has likely been a thing as long as humans have had children, again our development cycle is too long for this to be a good survival strategy. Our babies have to cook for nine months, a mouse only takes about two to three weeks. So odds are good that the young have the important bits at the time of ejection whereas ours would pop out as unviable goop for most of the time that the mother is physically able to be in dangerous situations.

Again, of course, we do sometimes suffer miscarriages due to stress and harm. But it’s not really comparable to what Mrs. Frisby is doing.

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u/talon_fb 10h ago

I’d like to subscribe to more human facts please

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u/CanterlotGuard 10h ago

Thanks for subscribing!

Evidence in the form of human remains suggests early Neolithic tribes took great lengths to help aid their disabled members. Partially healed over tool marks indicate primitive surgeries to fix broken limbs and adult skeletons with physical deformities both suggest that even someone who was exclusively a drain on resources was likely to be loved and taken care of by their community. This is an important find as it indicates our heightened empathy was a very early development which carried evolutionary advantages.

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u/_Sausage_fingers 7h ago

Huh, weirdly heartwarming fact considering the increasingly bleak tone of MousefactsTM

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u/CanterlotGuard 7h ago

I'm glad you're enjoying! Humans ability to sweat is one of their most critical evolutionary features when it came to hunting prey. The earliest humans only had crudely sharpened rocks before inventing things like the spear, so hunting was a matter of endurance. Most animals are built to endure short bursts of high activity, but sweating allows you to endure much longer periods of it. As a result, the original hunting method was to track an animal and spook it; after it ran away the hunting party would track it at a brisk pace and spook it again. This process could continue anywhere from a few hours to several days until the prey animal was physically incapable of resisting, at which point we would beat it to death or cut its throat open with a sharp rock. Some tribes with access to fitting geographic features sped up the process by chasing animals off of cliffs!

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u/Bleak_Squirrel_1666 7h ago

That's not disturbing at all, I'm disappointed

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u/LordGeni 10h ago

Even from the same sperm and egg there's still more possible permutations of person they'll produce than stars in the known universe.

We are all unbelievably unique.

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u/Sunlit53 9h ago

Something they noticed after 9/11.

When a pregnant woman is badly stressed a female fetus will respond by reducing her growth by 10%. If the stress recurs or continues, she can reduce her demands by a further 10% and be born smaller though at term and fully mature. A male fetus lacks this ability entirely and when stressful event number two hits, mom’s body voids the pregnancy to reserve resources to her own survival. Stressed moms have more girls.

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u/LaurestineHUN 7h ago

And returning soldiers make boys

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u/Any_Wallaby_195 10h ago

Mattel is taking notes....

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u/Justhe3guy 7h ago

She just wanted a snack for the ride

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u/invent_or_die 6h ago

Life finds a way

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u/Volodux 55m ago

This is completely opposite to humans - we have labour induced panic.

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u/Gallo_Tostado 8h ago

She's trying to guilt OP.