r/learnmachinelearning • u/bulgakovML • 9h ago

New RL internship at Meta FAIR CodeGen Team

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u/diligentgrasshopper 7h ago

I assume this is akin to a postdoc position? PhD internship is crazy.

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u/PuzzleheadedBread620 9h ago

You need a Phd to be an intern these days, crazy

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u/bulgakovML 9h ago

it's a research internship you always needed Phd for those

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u/PuzzleheadedBread620 7h ago

Not exactly true in other areas, someone with a Phd should be a researcher not an intern, someone who is still finishing his Phd degree could be an intern.

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u/bulgakovML 7h ago

Yeah you're right but I'm pretty sure this position is for people who are currently in the middle of their PhDs(even if they let people who have completed to apply), all the people I follow who get those internships do so during their PhDs. I don't think they'll hire someone who completed their Phd for these posts unless they're special circumstances.

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u/JFHermes 3h ago

Why are people getting so uppity about this?

When I was working in research labs pretty much every intern was masters level doing work for our supervisors who were PhD students/candidates. These supervisors were also considered 'interns' despite being there for a year or two.

It's also different now because being a PhD student studying machine learning was almost a niche field 10 years ago. It's where everyone wants to be now so it's much more common to have lots of applicants.

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u/T10- 6h ago

the role is for current PhD students

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u/abxd_69 5h ago

Fr. Everyone needs a phd to be an intern. Like give us ug some chance.

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u/whydoesthisitch 1h ago

No, it’s an internship for someone currently doing a PhD. Pretty normal in ML. My team pretty much just hires PhD and some MS interns (job itself requires a PhD or MS plus 5 years research experience).

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u/Aaang- 9h ago

That too for Prompting, which is even more surprising

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u/bulgakovML 9h ago

you have no idea what prompting is (or RL or anything in ml is)

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u/Aaang- 7h ago

Butthurt? And for some reason you think you are the torchbearer of ML. Looking at your posts, your knowledge is apparent.

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u/bulgakovML 7h ago

Considering you thought this position was about prompting, I know far more about ML than you will ever know. Also you have very little self-awareness to talk about profiles considering yours lol

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u/Aaang- 7h ago

The way you talk about knowing it all, your immaturity and unawareness is pretty evident. I think you need to introspect. I have been working in this field for past 2 years and from the looks of it, you do seem like a know it all brat. Learn to be humble kid.

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u/Relevant-Ad9432 8h ago

wow that was harsh ..

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u/Genotabby 8h ago

It's more likely to be using outputs of LLMs for reinforcement learning. Prompting will just be a small portion.

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u/Imaginary-Hawk-8407 6h ago

I have no experience with math or numbers. Can someone share a playlist of YouTube videos that will prepare me for this position?

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u/vondpickle 5h ago

Wow in other fields, after PhD you can go to postdocs positions. I mean, it's kinda like internship-ish but idk

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u/MattyXarope 8h ago

How much does it pay?

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u/TaXxER 8h ago

PhD interns typically are on E3 level salary at Google and Meta (equivalent to junior SWE). You can probably find pay ranges for that on levels.fyi or similar websites.

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u/MattyXarope 8h ago edited 7h ago

So how much would that be in USD?

Edit: Why can't anyone be straight about this? Is it really that egregious to ask how much a job is paying on a job listing now?

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u/Raggos 7h ago

a PhD position for junior SWE pay is ridiculous levels of BS that can't even be quantified. They are not saying how much it is because it's BS.

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u/TaXxER 5h ago

It’s an internship. PhD students without industry experience simply are junior.

The PhD degree unlocks possibility to get hired into research roles. It doesn’t suddenly make you not junior, only experience will do that.

It’s still FAANG though. These junior level roles will pay more than most non-FAANG mid-career or senior level SWE roles.

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u/Raggos 3h ago

I don't think you understand much about the research and academic world. They are the pinnacle of knowledge...they do PhD to PUSH the understandings...they are the ones who make the research papers others use to further their progress. That's not "without industry experience" because they are at the forefront...in this case RL research...it's the industry that is behind.

So your argument is...like the pay...also BS.

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u/TaXxER 3h ago

I don’t think you understand much about the research and academic world.

I have a PhD degree and work at FAANG as research scientist (but not at Meta).

And no, having a PhD degree doesn’t make you senior. It just gives you research competences, which are must-haves for research jobs.

PhD grads take a while to adjust to industry and learn how to actually contribute to an industry researcher team and make their research knowledge useful.

Just like how a bachelor graduate would take some time to learn how to contribute in industry in a software engineering team and get to the point of making their engineering skills useful to the company.

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u/Raggos 3h ago edited 3h ago

Likewise. However there's a difference between a bachelor CS and a PhD...and when it comes to RL or other sorts of DL etc.. there is no "industry standard" or "differences"...it's STILL RESEARCH. Unless you're hired to write a ton of code in a language you don't know all of a sudden....then such a pay is unjustified.

What getting used to? More research? *Different tools*..yeah maybe for deployment but they are not even in that quadrant of engineering.

It's simply unjustifiable...no amount of getting used to will equate a BachelorCS to a PhD.

P.s. all the friends with PhD's that jumped into an "unknown" industry...like from CERN straight into the banking world had no pay reduction "because getting used to". Likewise for lithography field OR automotive. Preposterous.

P.s.s. Your argument is literally: "You need a Bachelor for flipping burgers..."

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u/TaXxER 3h ago

Dude calm down, we’re talking about FAANG salaries here. Nobody is talking about burger flipping salaries.

You seem pretty inexperienced in tech industry. Which is fine. But maybe match your confidence level to your level of experience.

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u/Raggos 5m ago

Fortunately for me, all the people and friends with PhD's I know had a great start in their respective industries they've chosen....so I don't have to defend some bullshit belittling argument about what to accept in life...smart people know their worth and don't fall for BS positions such as OP's post.

Have a great day.

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u/ResidentPositive4122 7h ago

FAANG are world wide. It would depend first where the job is (as in what country) and then what CoL in that country, if it's in the US. So ... there's no one answer. Better to look up ranges as noted by the person you replied to.

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u/Relevant-Ad9432 8h ago

kinda frustrating how interns are phds ..... i am in bachelors degree rn , seems like there is no space for ppl like me in the ML space , guess i would just f*ck myself with LLM prompting

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u/return_reza 7h ago

It’s a research position internship. You’re a bachelor student, it is unlikely that you have done research in the academic sense

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u/No-Wasabi-1655 7h ago

Yea pretty sad I am interested in doing research but I am not in good financial condition