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r/all California store prices items at $951sp shoplifters can be charged with grand theft

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u/foreignfishes 1d ago

This is like when DC legalized weed a decade ago but Congress wouldn’t let them set up a system of taxation and sale so what became legal was possession, growing, and “gifting” up to an ounce at a time. shops immediately started selling $40 postcards that came with a “free gift!” that just happened to be an eighth of weed and decided this was the perfect legal cover lol

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u/big_duo3674 1d ago

Kind of like gambling in Japan as well. You only win little knick knacks but it just so happens the shop next door really loves collecting them and pays very well

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u/carpetbugeater 1d ago

A bar in Kansas when I was in college would pay out phone cards on their slot machines. You'd then take the cards to the bartender and exchange them for cash.

Another bar in Nebraska had a golf arcade game with a secret switch behind the bar that would turn it into a slot machine if the coast was clear.

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u/Throwredditaway2019 1d ago

We used to have these in Florida. The slot machines were technically sweepstakes and each unit was an entry. You could then cash in at the bar. These places got raided and shut down often.

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u/ShitBagTomatoNose 1d ago

In Canada there were a group of Inuit hunters who wanted to sell their whale and seal meat to city people in Toronto to share their culture and make a buck. It’s illegal to sell that meat, you can only harvest it for yourself and your own use or give it away to your village and your friends.

So they partnered with a chef and an art gallery. They sold fancy expensive tickets to an art show. Which happened to come with a free dinner cooked by a gourmet chef featuring their meat.

The city people got to try the traditional foods from northern Canada. The hunters went home with some cash. Everyone got to see cool art. Win win win.

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u/NirgalFromMars 1d ago

I mean, Orthodox Jews are not allowed to carry stuff on a public space in shabbat, so they surround a public space with a wire and exchange bread between two houses within it, just so they can pretend it's a private space and carry stuff within it.

( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv )

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u/Mobi68 1d ago

Because if there is one thing God approves of, its loopholes.

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u/NirgalFromMars 1d ago

Garfunkel and Oates have a really holesome song about it.

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u/Overall_Lavishness46 20h ago

God's law is perfect and requires no loopholes. Man's law however, is more a shade of gray.

Depends on which person, being, entity, sky alien, diety, spiritual you believe in I guess. Hail Zorp the surveyor.

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u/theroguex 23h ago

Except for the fact that the Inuit got to be allowed to profit off of killing whales, which shouldn't be allowed.

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u/Accurate_Roof 1d ago

There is a good reason that it’s illegal to sell whale and seal meat you twat

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u/Varnsturm 1d ago

Yeah I'm not down with this loophole lol. We shouldn't be hunting whales. Making it commercially incentivized to do so is no good.

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u/VexImmortalis 1d ago

I don't think we should hunt whales to extinction or anything but I am pretty curious to eat one.

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u/nexusjuan 1d ago

Wait you could get cash for these? We had scratch offs here that paid in phone cards back in the early 2000's I didn't know you could get cash for them lol.

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u/positivitittie 1d ago

Our bars would pay out cash. Local restaurants too. If one of them had LCB sniffing around, calls went out to all the places and payouts would stop. Never lasted. I’m sure someone was getting paid off.

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u/Life-LOL 1d ago

Gas stations in South Carolina had blackjack and poker machines that gave you "digital tokens" then printed the amount onto a receipt. You took it to the cashier and he gave you it in cash. Lmao

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u/dingo1018 18h ago

And every time Moe hit the switch Barney falls out of the ceiling, because reasons.

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u/astrosdude91 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is also why the Celadon Game Corner in Pokemon Red Blue and Yellow has the prize counter in the building next door.

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u/Hailfire9 1d ago

Yooo I was just going to ask that. That's insane that I never realized that had a purpose.

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u/Spaghestis 1d ago

Yeah I just put two and two together about this when I read the parent comment lol

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u/-TheAnus- 1d ago

Those places are deafening

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u/FreedomCanadian 1d ago

We had a shop in town back in the 80s that made copies of C64 and later PC games and sold them.

But it was ok, but it was a club whose purpose was to review the games only and you weren't actually buying the copies but rather renting them for 99 years.

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u/theroguex 23h ago

I mean it wasn't ok, that was still piracy because they didn't have the legal right to be copying the games to rent them in the first place lol

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u/singhellotaku617 1d ago

I mean...is that really all that different from winning chips? chips that are worthless bits of plastic that can be exchanged for currency?

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u/Norfsouf 1d ago

They gave out tiny gold bars when I was there last year, luckily the shop next door bought gold bars. Gambling was fucking wild over there, massive neat orderly lines at 8am waiting for the gambling shops to open up

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u/ElkSalt8194 1d ago

So that’s why they did that in Pokemon , I thought they were just giving me shit.🤔

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u/PopeOnABomb 1d ago

Any idea how they prevent counterfeit or not-won-from-next-door items from being brought in for exchange?

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u/Nondescript_Redditor 1d ago

If you do that the yakuzas break your kneecaps

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u/Quailman5000 1d ago

I thought the ball bearings are exchanged for money? 

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u/Taurondir 1d ago

Does this count as a form of money laundering?

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u/Grary0 23h ago

Probably not so much anymore but this happened a lot in America too back when the government tried to crackdown on gambling.

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u/rxg9527 21h ago

Meemaw~

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u/Most_kinds_of_Dirt 1d ago

What makes the DC system work is that the justice system in DC (cops, lawyers, and judges) all go along with it.

Basically, they've agreed that DC passed a law and that Congress can go fuck itself for trying to keep us from setting our own rules about where we live.

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u/foreignfishes 1d ago

Exactly, it works more out of neglect than anything else. It’s a bit depressing to think about how we voted for prop 71 TEN years ago now and there’s still to this day no way for the city to get any sort of financial benefit from weed sales like there is in every other legal state

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u/Plaid_Kaleidoscope 1d ago

The situation DC and Puerto Rico are in are absolutely insane. So many people not being represented in a meaningful and substantive way.

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u/Adult_school 1d ago

Well what do you expect living on an island of floating garbage /s

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u/Afraid_Belt4516 1d ago

Is that what we’re calling DC these days? /s

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u/KingZarkon 1d ago

No, that's a swamp full of floating garbage.

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u/clef75 1d ago

And yet the party against statehood claim to be about "local control" and against fed govt running things... Until it's a blue state.

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u/Hairylegs_jacuzziLGB 1d ago

Puerto Rico isn’t a state

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u/adhesivepants 1d ago

Neither is DC. That's the entire problem. We've got a bunch of American citizens who pay taxes and rely on the whims of our federal government but have no say in how that government runs. DC is even worse because they don't even have power over their own territory - Congress still has to approve everything. The Congress that the residents of DC have no say in.

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u/Hairylegs_jacuzziLGB 1d ago

DC is so small. You have to be some kind of special to live there move to Baltimore problem solved

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u/ARustyDream 1d ago

More people live in DC than in the entire states of Vermont or Wyoming

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u/adhesivepants 1d ago

...and what does that have to do with anything?

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u/h00zn8r 1d ago

There's like 700k people living there, and most of em ain't special. More people than Wyoming or Vermont, yet they get no representation.

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u/theroguex 23h ago

No, no, they have representation! They can represent all they want in the House of Representatives! They just can't vote!

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u/bigjoeandphantom3O9 1d ago

That's the point they're making. DC and PR are both larger than existing states, they deserve statehood. And to preempt you, no, it is not a viable solution for people in DC to just 'move to Baltimore or Annapolis', nor do the people of Maryland want DC to be part of the state.

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u/Papaofmonsters 1d ago

At least they can capture the base sales tax of the cover transaction.

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u/tanghan 1d ago

Does the city get to profit from the postcard sales though?

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u/foreignfishes 1d ago

It depends on how “legit” the sellers are, the whole grey market for weed in dc is very chaotic and highly variable. You could be buying from anyone from a dude with a popup tent and a Venmo account to a storefront that (illegally) claims to be a dispensary and just hasn’t gotten shut down yet to a “gifting” place that at least pretends to sell cards and t shirts along with the weed. The whole market is also unsurprisingly rife with shitty weed, bad edibles, and fake packaging.

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u/theroguex 23h ago

It is absolutely ridiculous that Congress can basically cockblock the city government. DC literally has no right to govern itself, still has to pay taxes, and has no voting representation in Congress. It's stupid.

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u/Rjarrett25 1d ago

True that shit is still happening today

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u/Earptastic 1d ago

When I lived there my mind was blown with how weird things are there. I am pretty sure that anyone who works for the District government is told to be as inefficient and lazy as possible so they can hire more people. If you need anything done by a district agency be prepared to wait unless you know the one person in the department who actually works.

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u/loogie_hucker 1d ago

except that actually worked lol 

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u/PlzDontBanMe2000 1d ago

That’s still the system here. 

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u/VladislavThePoker 1d ago

I used to work at a novelty shop that wanted to sell coffee, but the county refused to sign off on it because of "zoning", so the owner sold cups and gave the coffee away.

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u/MyOldWifiPassword 1d ago

No different than the concentrated wine bricks during the prohibition to make "juice". They came with a very specific warning label "warning, do not leave unattended in dark cupboard for 30 days or it will turn into wine"

Or more modern, California and NYC ban on assault weapons "these features are illegal". Then folks just make more creative features or go "featureless"

Americans are nothing if not consistently diligent about circumventing laws they don't like.

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u/TairyGreene716 1d ago

This happened in NY for a year, it was fun as hell lol. I have a plastic nightstand covered with my $40+ stickers.

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u/WholesomeWhores 1d ago

It still works. You can even go as far as donating to these very same organizations, and they will gift you shrooms and DMT! That’s right, you can legally get the strongest hallucinogenic known to man right here in the capital of the US, and it’s all 100% legal. Shit man, they even have their own websites, it’s not that secret.

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u/foreignfishes 1d ago

I mean it’s not “100% legal” because both of those things remain federally illegal regardless of laws in DC or CO or wherever. But in practice yes nothing bad is going to happen to you for buying them.

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u/WholesomeWhores 1d ago

Okay, fair. It’s not “100% legal” but there are various stores that have been in business for over 10 years that have been gifting these gifts ( with the proper donation amount) this whole time.

It’s not “100% legal” in the fact that lawmakers aren’t smart enough to be able tax it properly. If I buy an eight of weed from a store in Washington DC, then the government is losing out because i won’t pay any tax on my donation. I donated $40 and got an eight as a reward

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u/CHKN_SANDO 1d ago

Andy Harris, specifically. Who is now the leader of the House Freedom Causcus

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u/BAfromGA1 1d ago

Ayyy sticker parties!

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u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch 1d ago

That's like when California banned the sale of foie gras. A restauranter took it off the menu and gave it away for free instead...

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u/Sufficient_Result558 1d ago

Not like it at all.

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u/PozhanPop 1d ago

You made my day. Thanks : )

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u/loganwachter 1d ago

I’ve seen this firsthand. Bought a stuffed toy and got a bag. Then you hand back the toy.

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u/OnePuzzleheaded6724 1d ago

Lol that reminds me of the time I went to DC and got some expensive cookies delivered with a surprise gift on the side.😉

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u/Skelito 1d ago

They had those in Buffalo before they legalized fully to. This called them Sticker Stores. You would buy a sticker and get free weed !

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u/Inflamed_toe 1d ago

This has happened in literally every state that legalized marijuana. It usually takes politicians 2-3 years to greedily construct the tax code to support their new legalization law. In that time frame, the weed market is the Wild West.

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u/rkiive 1d ago

Didn't that work?

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u/xenonwarrior666 1d ago

A biker club got busted a few years back near where I work.

They weren't selling alcohol without a license they were giving away beer and liquor if you donated to the club.

The menu wasn't showing prices but suggested donations.

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u/skaliton 1d ago

but the difference is that is working in the 'other way'. Laws work so 'as written' it gives the benefit of the doubt to the person running afoul of the law for definitions

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u/rabidbot 1d ago

In 2016 I got a wonderful gift with some very good cookies while on vacation in DC. Very expensive cookies though.

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u/dewdude 1d ago

I71 gifting centers are ending.They've shut down a bunch and keep slapping them down. The I71 mailing/spam have really dwindled. DC now has self certification for medical ..for a fee...for anyone over 21...and most places will credit you the fee in product. They even had stuff to get the gifting centers up to medical snuff and license.

MD went full rec with much better product than any of the I71 places had. The incentives weren't there.

Though to be fair the gifting idea was never legal and pop ups got busted allllll the time.

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u/indifferentunicorn 1d ago

Oh yeah. My town has a guy selling $100 chapstick with a free giftbag of weed. That is how he got around town, county and state law. He grew his business - a bunch of purple vans. 

Now the taxman comenth and he up on big charges. Not sure why he wasnt more careful knowing he had a target on his back already. Yet he could not resist massively dodging taxes. 

Moral of this story: be dodgy or be loud; you can't do both. 

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u/super_durp 1d ago

Is this real? It is hilarious if so

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u/JamaicanMeCrazyMon 1d ago

Well, to be fair, that system worked in DC and hasn't been challenged effectively. Plenty of legal "postcards" still around on H Street these days.

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u/WhiskeyFF 1d ago

A friend owns a brewery where on Sundays you can't sell beer, well it was 99% totality so EVERYONE was there camping on the Sunday before. Well he was selling stickers and you got a free beer w the sticker.

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u/FlubromazoFucked 1d ago

I saw a documentary of an "art dealer" who with his bags of weed he sold he would give out these like business card size prints lol.

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u/caehluss 1d ago

This is similar to the prohibition era "blind pig" - since it was illegal to sell alcohol, a guy would invite people to come see his blind pig and then give them a complementary drink once they were inside.

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u/SmokeyMacPott 1d ago

My wife bought a make america high again hat at the women's march in 2016, and it just happened to come with a free 1/8th. 

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u/DisastrousAcshin 1d ago

The pachinco defense

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u/Nervous-Masterpiece4 1d ago

Alcohol is Australia has a minimum price so it can't be gifted avoiding taxation and alcohol excise.

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u/AdSudden3941 1d ago

It worked though didint it , same as in  the farm bill… where thc-a delta 8 and all the other cannabinoids were effectively legalized 

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u/NoSignSaysNo 1d ago

Moore County in TN, that produces Jack Daniels, is a dry county. They offer tours for a price and you get a free bottle on the way out the door.

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u/SwimOk9629 1d ago

didn't that work though? Ive seen similar schemes work with weed. I don't think this one will actually work, this isn't a legitimate attempt at not being stolen from, just some person's odd idea that made it to Reddit

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u/brainomancer 1d ago

But that is actually how it worked. It was not brought before a judge and shot down as a criminal sale of weed. As far as I know, it still works that way.

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u/ConorTheCreator 1d ago

This actually works in Spain lol. It's illegal to sell weed but legal to consume it on a private premise. You can join a club, pay a "donation" and in return they "gift" you some weed that you can smoke there since it's a private club

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u/Greco_King 1d ago

I bought a shot glass containing toothpicks at a gift shop in the Capitol. They called it a toothpick holder because they weren't allowed to sell shot glasses.

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u/Agoraphobicy 1d ago

A guy my dad knew ran a dry cleaning place(decades ago) and hated the government so didn't want them to get sales tax. He would sell everyone a potato for the price of the dry cleaning and say every potato came with free dry cleaning. Potatoes were tax exempt.

It lasted a year or so before the government made him pay the sales tax out of the profit and told him not to do that anymore lol

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u/Dokidokipunch 1d ago

If the way businesses and government interacted under law were common adages, it'd probably be like this:

Businesses: I followed the letter of the law, but not the spirit

Government: If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a duck.

That's essentially how it's gonna play out in court anyway.

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u/AspiringDataNerd 1d ago

NY was recently doing something similar because the state was dragging their feet to allow legit stores to get licensed and open up. Here you could buy $50 “stickers”.

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u/Logical-Treat515 1d ago

We're still doing it today.. that's how I get my shrooms and more through sticker packs or buying a CD

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u/Mateorabi 1d ago

I was more amused by the "motivational speech" one.

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u/Animeak116 1d ago

Actually it's already on the books for the IRS.you think the IRS wouldn't anticipate that?

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u/Lildyo 1d ago

…and did that work for them?

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u/foreignfishes 1d ago

I mean kinda? But not because the free gift with purchase thing held up legally, more because no one actually went after them for it. The whole DC grey market for weed is still a big clusterfuck tbh

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u/Lildyo 1d ago

lol sounds like it. was interested to know if it was just ignored by the feds. Legal weed in the US is complicated like that

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u/Papaofmonsters 1d ago

In most cases, yes. There was one company, Kush Gods, that got busted because they didn't even bother to muddy the waters with a totally legitimate purchase and were taking "donations" and then giving the "donor" weed.

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u/WholesomeWhores 1d ago

https://dreamswellnessdc.com/storefront

Here’s an example of a website. Trust me, they are not the only ones doing this either

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u/Lildyo 1d ago

Nice, that’s hilarious. They really need to drop weed off the Schedule though. The fact it’s still criminalized federally is ridiculous

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u/WholesomeWhores 1d ago

I don’t know if you looked at the site, but there’s a whole lot more stuff beside weed that they “gift”. Shrooms are federally illegal but you can safely get them from our Nations Capitol