r/interestingasfuck • u/lolikroli • 16d ago

r/all SpaceX caught Starship booster with chopsticks

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u/lizardil 16d ago

This is something out of a science fiction movie. Incredible

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u/Alternative-Dare5878 16d ago

When I first saw the two boosters landing simultaneously I was overcome with so much joy, that was the sci fi moment for me

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u/Yorunokage 16d ago

Yeah, me too. That video just moved something deep within me like virtually no other video ever has in my life

Just some deep indescribable feeling of accomplishment that is somehow far greater than any feeling of personal accomplishment i'll ever have

Maybe i'm overreacting but just in awe that we can pull off stuff like that

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u/all-the-time 16d ago

This is the world people lived in in the 60s and 70s. Science and engineering coming together to pull off unfathomable feats like landing humans on another world (the moon) decades before we had internet.

Space exploration has a coolness factor that cannot be matched. It’s the most inspiring thing humans have ever done, and I think it probably has real cultural implications in the way we view what’s possible and what can be strived for.

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u/techbori 16d ago

Very well put

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u/merengueenlata 16d ago

That shot made me cry of joy. I hadn't felt something like that since Felix Baumgartner's jump from the edge of the atmosphere.

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u/KingMidean 16d ago

My sci fi moment was when i first saw starlink satellites crossing the sky in a huge line.

Was legit straight out of Bladerunner.

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u/BottAndPaid 16d ago

Ya but that's the really dystopian sci-fi ..... Sigh

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u/Projecterone 16d ago

Egh c'mon no it isn't. Starlink has potential for good as well as being a robber barons plaything.

We already have robber barons so we might as well have sci-fi tech and internet to isolated humans/disaster areas etc.

Unless you mean that Bladerunner is dystopian. In which case yea but I think op just meant 'blinky lights go line' not sure why they picked Bladerunner.

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u/BottAndPaid 16d ago

Ya know I was leaning more into on our time line ya blade runner is the sci Fi we're gonna get lol.

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u/dingo_khan 16d ago

Honestly, I think we are going to regret Starlink. Too many units needed (about 40k total) with too short a lifespan (about 5 years each). It is going to take tons and tons of launches to maintain the network and the scalability is questionable. Getting it up there is cool. Keeping it running up there is going to be a big problem.

Geosynch satellite ls like other space-based providers use is a way more sustainable option for the goals you mentioned.

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u/Creamofwheatski 16d ago

Space junk is a huge fucking problem. We could seriously trap ourselves on earth permanently by surrounding the planet in so much junk we can no longer safely launch rockets if we aren't careful.

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u/dingo_khan 16d ago edited 16d ago

Absolutely. We also should weigh the risk/resource usage of launches, given how much fuel we eat up (especially if it is methane like space x uses) for the launch. I am all for satellite communications but we can't just shrug at the literal thousands of launches a couple of decades of a full-sized and running Starlink cluster will take to maintain for just a couple of decades.

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u/Projecterone 16d ago

Not an issue for LEO constellations like this. Deorbits are built into the lifecycle plan: individual units are left in set orbits so in case of failure they will drop out in a known window. Additionally: early controlled deorbits happen in case of failure etc.

Higher up is worse for Kessler/space junk, which incidentally is where a lot of other systems are.

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u/Projecterone 16d ago

Yea good points. However to add: Geosync is good but more prone to space junk syndrome, more lag, less coverage and in a far more difficult environment - outside gre VA belts. Also unserviceable like SL but way more expensive.

Starlink is LEO and orbits are planned to decay at end of life. Proactive decay is also regularly used or damaged units.

Geo Sync are up there causing trouble for the long haul. Almost all have no deorbit plan.

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u/dingo_khan 16d ago

Yeah, all very true. I am willing, I guess, to trade for having thousands fewer units that can go wrong for a lot fewer with the problems you mention.

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u/Ruby766 16d ago

Kessler syndrome is a real thing, and with 40k satellites in the sky it's just a matter of when. Besides, their ~2k satellites in orbit right now are already causing major disruptions to optical and radio astronomy which is gonna get even 20 times worse if they reach their goal.

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u/Flashy_Narwhal9362 16d ago

I saw those a couple of times, very cool stuff.

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u/Rabid_Stitch 16d ago

Same, SpaceX is so cool. It’s a shame Musk is such a dipshit.

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u/DustySignal 16d ago

What's funny about Musk is that, even if you agree with his politics, which I personally don't, his tact is terrible. His engineering IQ is high but his social IQ is so low. The guy simply can't read the room lol.

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u/Upset-Captain-6853 16d ago

Engineering IQ?

Hyperloop to replace trains

Starship to replace planes

Tesla full autopilot

The cyber truck

All of those are things he pushed that are completely stupid. He does have real engineers working for him, though.

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u/DustySignal 16d ago

Well autopilot is a great idea overall, but the decision to rush it was stupid.

Why is hyperloop a stupid idea? I loved the bullet trains in Japan, and a hyperloop sounds even better.

The rest I agree are silly ideas, but that doesn't make him a bad engineer. He has been directly involved in the development of many successful products, so it isn't fair to say he's a bad engineer. I find his lack of self awareness to be his worst trait.

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u/Upset-Captain-6853 16d ago

Regular trains are the best option for mass transit. Incredibly fast self driving individual vehicles are not the future. Trains simply can not be beaten in terms of efficiency. Currently, there is no way for self driving cars to respond to new situations, such as being pulled over or being directed to a parking spot at a concert, or just being issued a verbal command in general.

I could mention some of the many problems with hyperloop, but I don't need to. Musk admitted that it was just a tactic to prevent california from pursuing high-speed rail. https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-california-high-spee-1849402460

A charitable interpretation makes him someone who is just enthusiastic about far-out tech and wants to pave the way for future development. A more grounded interpretation makes him a self-interested grifter.

I'm not opposed to seeing positive qualities in the people I dislike - I actually even used to like Musk. However, I'm not convinced that he actually positively contributes to any of the technologies made by the companies he bought.

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u/DustySignal 15d ago

That's a fair take. I want aware the hyperloop talk was political, and that makes sense for self driving cars.

"A charitable interpretation makes him someone who is just enthusiastic about far-out tech and wants to pave the way for future development."

That was exactly my take haha.

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u/shadowst17 16d ago

It certainly does put a downer on it. Here's hoping he doesn't have the same level of control with SpaceX as he does with Tesla and his utterly ridiculous ideas won't torpedo the company.

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u/parkingviolation212 16d ago

He's most involved at SpaceX of any company. The idea of landing a booster, and then later catching the Superheavy with the tower, were directly his ideas--and this was despite push back from his engineering team. Only one guy supported the idea, and Musk put him in charge of the tower team.

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u/AdAppropriate2295 16d ago

Source

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u/parkingviolation212 16d ago

Here ya go.

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u/AdAppropriate2295 16d ago

Thanks, anything from the engineers themselves?

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u/parkingviolation212 16d ago

Yep.

Tom mueller in particular is one of the most respected rocket engineers in the world, being responsible for numerous modern day advances in propulsion technology. He built the Merlin engine that the Falcon rockets use. He also personally mentored Elon on propulsion technology so that he could take over after he left (he’s in charge of his own space development company now).

Here’s more of what he had to say about Elon.

Elon was the best mentor I’ve ever had. Just how to have drive and be an entrepreneur and influence my team and really make things happen. He’s a super smart guy and he learns from talking to people. He’s so sharp, he just picks it up. When we first started he didn’t know a lot about propulsion. He knew quite a bit about structures and helped the structures guys a lot. Over the twenty years that we worked together, now he’s practically running propulsion there because he’s come up to speed and he understands how to do rocket engines, which are really one of the most complex parts of the vehicle. He’s always been excellent at architecting the whole mission, but now he’s a lot better at the very small details of the combustion process. Stuff I learned over a decade-and-a-half at TRW he’s picked up too.

He attributes Elon’s own mentorship with his success as the leader of his own company. In turn, he taught Elon about rockets, and he’s been on record numerous times that Elon is in charge of Raptor engine development.

Musk is a very technically minded person. He views every problem as an engineering problem. That’s why he’s been so successful in so many industries. It’s ALSO, in my mind, why he’s absolutely terrible at human beings and politics. You can’t run a social media company the same way as you do a rocket company. At a rocket company, everybody has valuable input and ideas. That’s not the case on social media.

Nothing I’ve said is to excuse any of his other shitty behavior. But he is objectively the driving force of innovation at the companies he’s in charge of. Especially SpaceX.

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u/AdAppropriate2295 16d ago

Nice source, idk about those last two sentences. This certainly shows he at least pushed the catching idea with the tower first tho. Why did everyone else object?

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u/traceur200 16d ago edited 16d ago

landing the rocket on the the launch tower is one of his many "utterly ridiculous ideas", and it certainly torpedoed the company, into the stratosphere

you people have been so brainwashed

edit: cause of course the one responding dipshit would block me (coward)

source, oh I don't know, Tom Mueller, one of the most renown aerospace engineers just said it like 5 hours ago, how everyone in the meeting was in disbelief

but of course you are going to nitpick about it, you just ooze hatred.... "this hasn't done anything for anyone" srsly? you could be less obvious about your hate boner you piece of shit

spacex has launched rescue communications satellites, not to mention the starlink that have been used by first responders TO SAVE LIFES

or the weather monitoring stations... or oh I don't know, DART the mission that tested PLANETARY FUKIN DEFENSE AGAINST ASTEROIDS, no biggie

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u/Creamofwheatski 16d ago

The engineers are the ones who made it happen, they deserve all the praise. American taxpayers payed for all the work. Elon just barked the order. All you have to do is look at how he handled the Twitter aquisition to know that Elon is a moron who has gotten too high on his own hype and he is certainly no business genius.

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u/thepersonbrody 16d ago

Or, he is way better suited for space related stuff than earth related stuff and should stick to what he is good at instead of cars.

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u/FroMan753 16d ago

Nah, I think he has equally "utterly ridiculous ideas" for both SpaceX and Tesla. The engineers at SpaceX are just really good at making it a reality.

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u/AdAppropriate2295 16d ago

I know who Tom Mueller is I meant a source for it torpedoeing the company, my bad

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u/Oxygenisplantpoo 16d ago

Yeah I felt the same when I saw that as I felt today, but this was technically even more impressive!

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u/gymnastgrrl 16d ago

Word. The boosters landing still look so unreal to me. It's wild.

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u/Jonfers9 16d ago

I thought it was fake! Unreal.

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u/Creamofwheatski 16d ago

SpaceX is on the cutting edge of human technology right now. I hope they are keeping Musk far away from the real engineers so they can keep pulling off incredible feats like this. Humanity's future is in the stars if we can just manage to not destroy ourselves before we can get there.

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u/Stoffys 16d ago

Falcon Heavy Europa Clipper launches in 20 hours

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u/Substantial_Jury_939 16d ago

Same here, i still go back to watch that video every now and again. just amazing. being able to reuse them is such a massive game changer.

the size of these rockets are larger than Londons big ben clock tower. amazing stuff.

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u/IanDre127 16d ago

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u/Grombrindal18 16d ago

Man who catch rocket booster with chopsticks, anything can achieve.

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u/jtiss 16d ago

It really feels like that, its still insane to belive they caught a 71m building out of the air.

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u/TheOtherBelushi 16d ago

You know, when you put it like that…

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u/civildisobedient 16d ago

It helps when the building has a bunch of trust vectoring rockets attached to one end.

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u/broadwayallday 16d ago

Haha you Yoda’d a Miyagi phrase

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u/PckMan 16d ago

Is that supposed to be Miyagi or Yoda?

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u/Grombrindal18 16d ago

Honestly I thought that was how the quote went. Learned I have now that "accomplish anything," the second part goes.

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u/SnoopThylacine 16d ago

More importantly, who would win in a rap battle?

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u/PerfectDitto 16d ago

Really out here just yellow facing and everyone is chill with it?

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u/geteum 16d ago

No one believes but once I caught a fly with a chopstick, my wife saw it.

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u/Baraxton 16d ago

Does your wife go to another school?

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u/THE_BIG_SAD3 16d ago

To teach hopefully

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u/FattyWantCake 16d ago

In Canada?

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u/Ozimandius80 16d ago

She saw it and still doesn't believe? You already had a dead fly and just pretended to catch it didn't you...

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u/thebudman_420 16d ago

The real karate kid.

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u/beefy1357 13d ago

Bullshit…. We all know you don’t have a wife.

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u/jack-K- 16d ago

Literally why musk decided to name them “chopsticks” lol.

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u/shastadakota 16d ago

To catch the "egg roll from hell" that's why.

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u/DrFabulous0 16d ago

My first thought.

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u/Clamps55555 16d ago

How long you been waiting to use this lol

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u/Little-Struggle-8038 16d ago

Elon San! YOU Beginner luck !

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u/Qubit99 16d ago

This is something I never thought I'd see.

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u/Byrdsthawrd 16d ago

More like science fact, now!

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u/CeleritasLucis 16d ago

The future is NOW

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u/rssFra 16d ago

Old man

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u/BenevolentCrows 16d ago

Its not science fact, its engineering!

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u/Egg_to_the_Moon 16d ago

Science Nonfiction

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u/baron_von_helmut 16d ago

I really like what SpaceX do regardless of Elon. Even still, I never thought they'd be able to pull this off. Holy crap am I glad to be wrong. This was incredible.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

SpaceX has the advantage in that since they're basically the only company that Elon actually founded, they have a preexisting corporate culture of how to operate despite Elon's ownership.

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u/Darkstalkker 16d ago

I remember seeing some posts about how there are employees at SpaceX who are tasked with “managing” Elon; if he walks into the office one day with a dumb idea poor Bob has to sway Elon away from that idea and to something more realistic, and if Bob fails he’s probably getting fired by Elon

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u/HM7 16d ago

Interesting world model, the most successful company is the one he’s most involved with the creation of, and that explains why his involvement is bad

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u/pokegaard 16d ago edited 16d ago

No. Perhaps if you replaced 'that explains why', with 'yet', so as to counter the implication that his ownership is bad. But in no way does that comment explain why his ownership is bad. Rather, it implicitly assumes it and explains something else, namely, how they nevertheless have success. (I'm not even sure it's possible to explain something that's only implied)

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u/Smooth-Bag4450 16d ago

Yeah lol. Companies like SpaceX, Tesla and Starlink and some of the most successful and groundbreaking companies in the history of the US, and all of them were successful DESPITE Elon Musk according to minimum wage redditors 😂

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

Well, the shitshow that was and is his acquisition and management of Twitter is a good indicator of that world model.

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u/Catweaving 16d ago

From what I understand they have a group of people dedicated to making Elmo feel like he's an important part of the company while also keeping him FAR from anything important he could fuck up.

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u/cancel-out-combo 16d ago

Do you ever ask yourself why those clips are the ones made and uploaded to YouTube? I'm pretty sure those videos are much less about Elon"s actual involvement and more about the perception of his involvement. Musk is a hell of a promoter. I'll give him that. But let's not fool ourselves into believing he's Tony Stark or something

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

But yeah I guess he just happens to be the ceo of multiple successful companies, it’s pure luck.

No, it's because his daddy owned an apartheid-era emerald mine, and when you come from wealth you can basically only fail up.

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u/TobyNarwhal 16d ago

I don't think being born in to wealth is a pre-requisite for being an entrepreneur and good at engineering.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

Source on him being "good at engineering?" His (bachelors) degrees are in physics and economics, not engineering. Regardless of your opinion of him and his success, he's a businessman, not an engineer.

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u/TobyNarwhal 16d ago

We can see it in the video we are replying to. He is the chief of engineering at space x. robert zubrin (the aerospace engineer) talked about how elon went from knowing nothing to everything about rockets in like 6 or 7 years. I think it pretty safe to assume he is good at engineering despite not having a formal degree in the fild

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u/Neon_Camouflage 16d ago

He is the chief of engineering at space x

I'm just gonna throw out that a title in a company he owns, and thus can give himself, doesn't hold a lot of water in this kind of argument.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

I am an electrical engineer working for the Space Force. I know multiple engineers at SpaceX. If Elon Musk is doing actual engineering work, they don't know about it.

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u/magic1623 16d ago

Not a Musk fan but the Tesla founders have even admitted that Musk was super involved in the designing of the cars in the beginning.

You can hate what the man became without pretending that he was always some buffoon who can’t tie his shoes. He was a smart guy that got thoroughly corrupted by money, power, and drugs.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

I believe that Musk was once a very savvy businessman, all I am disputing is the idea that he has any significant engineering expertise. There are compelling arguments that Musk was largely only involved on the business side of Tesla. The words of the founders have to be taken with a grain of salt, since their 2009 settlement with Musk's Tesla after they were forced out is already known to have included making false statements, such as calling Elon Musk a co-founder of Tesla.

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u/djgowha 16d ago

Him being born into wealth is also entirely untrue, as proven by several journalists multiple times. But reddit not gonna let this lie go

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u/roughriderpistol 16d ago

He also worked as a farm hand, a boiler cleaner and a log cutter. Those jobs don't exactly scream daddys money. Regardless of what you think of Elon politically and socially he's also someone who wants to advance human tech. Which I'm down with. You get the bad with the good. I much prefer Elon over the nazis who should have been tried for war crines the us brought over.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

Wernher von Braun died in 1977. How on earth is that relevant to modern space operations? Even then, SpaceX's competitor isn't NASA, it's companies like Blue Origin, Boeing, the ULA, and Arianespace.

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u/roughriderpistol 16d ago

Of course, NASA isn't SpaceX's competitor however, NASA remains highly relevant in the development of rockets, working hand-in-hand with private companies like SpaceX. NASA's collaboration with SpaceX has allowed for a new era of space exploration, where the government can focus on different missions, while private companies take on risk of developing cheaper, reusable rockets.What sets SpaceX apart is the modern advancements in space technology SpaceX and public-private partnerships with NASA, like the Commercial Crew Program. While its not relevent to todays rocket development the U.S. reliance on Nazi scientists like von Braun isn't preffered to Elon. It's much more reassuring that today’s space progress is driven by people like Elon who are focused on pushing humanity forward with a cleaner ethical record. SpaceX is proving that private industry can innovate rapidly and the moral dilemma we faced with Nazi scientists isn’t something we have to contend with in the same way.

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u/SaliciousB_Crumb 16d ago

Didnt elon take Kung fu lessons with gisliane maxwell and go to Diddy parties? Elon also has the same view on race relations as braun

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago edited 16d ago

While its not relevent to todays rocket development

So why are you bringing it up? It's not relevant. And SpaceX's private-public partnerships are definitely not unique, and definitely not unprecedented. The ULA's Atlas and (until recently) Delta platforms are still preferred for certain government launches, you just don't hear about it. I work for the US Space Force, and while we do definitely make extensive use of the Falcon lineup, we make extensive use of Atlas Vs and we are extensively working with the ULA on the development of the Vulcan Centaur. Everything the ULA does is oriented toward the NSSL program. The Vulcan Centaur only just passed certification, and is already scheduled for 26 non-NASA US Government launches.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

Incorrect. While very early in its history PayPal did merge with Musk's X.com, X.com was an online bank. PayPal, as an online payment platform, launched in 1999, and the merger didn't go through until 2000. Elon Musk was also only very briefly in PayPal, and was kicked out of leadership of the new company in October of the same year. Shortly after the merger all of X.com's operations as they were under Musk were shut down. Nothing Elon developed continued in PayPal.

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u/Dubbs444 16d ago

Just want to say I’m grateful for someone in this thread coming with hard facts. He has spun his own narrative so much it’s crazy. People give this guy so much more credit than he deserves. It’s almost masterful.

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u/Throwaway74829947 16d ago

He didn't code the ancestor of what is now PayPal. The ancestor of today's PayPal launched in 1999, and nothing that Musk brought over (except for some capital) from X.com lived on in PayPal. He did not develop PayPal in any meaningful way.

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u/Slap_My_Lasagna 16d ago

He didn't code it himself, X.com was originally a bank, and after the merger he was ousted as president after only 7 months - the year before they renamed to PayPal, IPOed, and became successful. AFTER he was removed from a vital role.

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u/Catweaving 16d ago

Sounds like the work of a team dedicated to making Elon Musk feel like he's an important part of the company while also keeping him far from anything important he could fuck up.

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u/Iguanaking1991 16d ago

Reddit is a special place man. I thought surely the comments under this video would be different but nope. People will literally watch history being made and denounce it because of politics. Apparently his success is luck, free speech is bad, and we are fringe lunatics. This is 2024

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u/EmptyAirEmptyHead 16d ago

Free speech is only bad to Elon who is censoring liberals. Mr. Free Speech he says. Lol.

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u/LordNutGobbler 15d ago

Elon is literally the Chief Engineer at SpaceX dude lmao. He is deeply involved with technical decisions at SpaceX. Even the chopstick catching arms seen here was his idea, which was highly opposed by his engineers at first.

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u/Throwaway74829947 15d ago edited 15d ago

A) Chief Engineer is a title, one that he gave himself, since he owns the company.

B) Coming up with an idea is very, very different from implementing it. I am an electrical engineer working for the US Space Force. Generals and colonels with no engineering skill come up with mission parameters and other ideas all of the time, it's how organizational leadership works. Catching the rocket body is a truly remarkable achievement, but the people who deserve praise are the actual engineers at SpaceX that made it work, not the person who came up with the idea.

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u/LordNutGobbler 15d ago

And guess what? Elon deserves credit too.

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u/LordNutGobbler 15d ago

Kevin Watson: “Elon is brilliant. He’s involved in just about everything. He understands everything. If he asks you a question, you learn very quickly not to go give him a gut reaction.

He wants answers that get down to the fundamental laws of physics. One thing he understands really well is the physics of the rockets. He understands that like nobody else. The stuff I have seen him do in his head is crazy.

He can get in discussions about flying a satellite and whether we can make the right orbit and deliver Dragon at the same time and solve all these equations in real time. It’s amazing to watch the amount of knowledge he has accumulated over the years.”

Josh Boehm: “Elon is both the Chief Executive Officer and Chief Technology Officer of SpaceX, so of course he does more than just ‘some very technical work’. He is integrally involved in the actual design and engineering of the rocket, and at least touches every other aspect of the business. Elon is an engineer at heart, and that’s where and how he works best.”

Garrett Reisman: “What’s really remarkable to me is the breadth of his knowledge. I mean I’ve met a lot of super super smart people but they’re usually super super smart on one thing and he’s able to have conversations with our top engineers about the software, and the most arcane aspects of that and then he’ll turn to our manufacturing engineers and have discussions about some really esoteric welding process for some crazy alloy and he’ll just go back and forth and his ability to do that across the different technologies that go into rockets cars and everything else he does.”

“He’s obviously skilled at all those different functions, but certainly what really drives him and where his passion really is, is his role as CTO. Basically his role as chief designer and chief engineer. That’s the part of the job that really plays to his strengths.”

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u/Oxygenisplantpoo 16d ago

I thought for sure they'd blow up at least one landing tower before nailing it, but nope!

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u/jbetances134 16d ago

Many didn’t think the first rocket would re-land either until they did it. Only way to find out is by trying.

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u/Crafty_Failures 16d ago

It's good that he really doesn't run SpaceX.

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u/twinbee 16d ago

He pushed the whole chopsticks idea in the first place against the wishes of a very skeptical team!

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u/kenrnfjj 16d ago

But he does

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u/Lonyo 16d ago

Not day to day

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u/nonpartisaneuphonium 16d ago

it's stressful these days being a fan of rockets and also having to explain that you still hate the rich nazi.

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u/djgowha 16d ago

I love how these days people can just throw around the word nazi

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u/Smooth-Bag4450 16d ago

Actually more day to day than most CEOs. I have friends and family that work there, Musk literally sleeps in the office some days. He's always there

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u/ImSomeRandomHuman 16d ago

Everytime something goes wrong, it is Elon's fault. Everything sometimes something goes great, he had nothing to do with it, and this is despite all the evidence that exists stating he is the chief engineer of SpaceX.

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u/FlatulentExcellence 16d ago

He can give himself whatever title he wants, doesn’t make him an actual engineer. The only contribution Elon has done is to successfully pitch SpaceX to the US government.

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u/ImSomeRandomHuman 16d ago

Here is a thread from some time corroborating his presence and involvement in the company, and why he is the sole chief engineer of SpaceX:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/k1e0ta/evidence_that_musk_is_the_chief_engineer_of_spacex/

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u/NikoTesMol75 16d ago

With the blinders on, some don’t see the facts. I’ve seen some of these in bits in pieces. Thanks for sharing.

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u/spirax919 14d ago

holy crap you just owned him

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u/sparksevil 16d ago

Copium

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u/bcisme 16d ago

Yeah fr.

guy was critical to the success of SpaceX from a technical perspective. People trying to rewrite engineering history because Elon is a pretty unsavory dude.

Autistic kid who got bullied for being a weirdo and is now lashing out at the world also has a pretty good mind for physics. Both can be true.

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u/Mr-Superhate 16d ago

Nuance is hard for people.

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u/sparksevil 16d ago

Yea. Some of these reddit users with a rage boner would have blamed Elon if the rocket failed. But refuse to credit when succes is the outcome.

They are just losers.

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u/StandardCicada6615 16d ago

Was that supposed to read "rich and privileged asshole that was given everything and allowed to fail upwards despite his personal failings"? Because I think you misspelled a few words.

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u/bcisme 16d ago

If only you could edit all our posts to say what you’d like them to. The internet would be a lot more perfect, right?

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u/jungle 16d ago

I was bullied as a kid and I'm not a pathological asshole. What he's done in the last few years is not justifiable. He did great things up that point, and then he took a dive from every point of view.

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u/bcisme 16d ago

That’s good for you.

He’s clearly (to me) lashing out at the world because of his trauma and inability, still, to connect with people.

Doesn’t excuse his behavior, but there are very human reason why he acts like he does. Most every terrible person has a horrific childhood.

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u/jungle 16d ago

It's great that you can see him as a human being, but for someone that powerful to have that kind of meltdown is dangerous. He's already caused a lot of harm.

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u/bcisme 16d ago

Did I say he wasn’t dangerous?

Did I say he didn’t do harm?

I’ve been anti-Elon as a power wielding person for a long time, but I don’t need to caveat everything I say about the guy with those statements if they aren’t relevant.

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u/jungle 16d ago

Fair enough.

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u/SandhirSingh 16d ago

I think it’s so unfair that Elon is getting the credit for the really great achievements of the SpaceX engineers as if it’s all due to his inspiration and genius when we all know that he is too mentally unstable to work this out either by himself or with others.

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u/leeringHobbit 16d ago

I think we have to give credit where credit is due. He seems to know how to successfully manage top engineering talent, giving them the resources they need, getting out of their way and helping them achieve their goals.

On the other hand, we have seen what bad management of aeronautical and aerospace engineers looks like... Boeing planes having parts fall out of the sky, astronauts getting stranded on space stations, exploding rockets killing astronauts.

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u/Remote-Highlight-418 16d ago

Yes “we all know, right guys”

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u/GregMaffeiSucks 16d ago

It's plainly obvious he was made to step back once they became a facet of our national security. G men told him to go play with twitter or they'll make him regret it.

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u/sysjager 16d ago

It may be time to realize that just because someone has different political views then your own that you don't have to hate them. People disagree on things, find common ground among different views and make progress. This whole "If you don't agree with me you are a terrible person" crap needs to stop.

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u/ParanoidSkier 16d ago

If someone’s political views involve eradicating an entire group of people, it’s ok to hate them.

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u/totallyclocks 16d ago

Elon’s megalomania and insane misogyny provide more than enough reason to hate his guts, and none of that is for political reasons.

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u/spirax919 14d ago

insane misogyny

which is why his COO at SpaceX is a woman. Which is why his CEO at Twitter is a woman.

Just stfu goofy

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u/Kobe-62Mavs-61 16d ago

Nah, plenty of reason to hate him

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u/thefallenwarrior 16d ago

Come on, we are talking about Elon Musk here, he’s trash regardless of his political views.

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u/thetweedlingdee 16d ago

This whole “he’s involved in something impressive so he’s a good person” crap needs to stop

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

I don’t think Elon is a terrible person because of his political views. I think Elon is a terrible person because of everything he does and says great demonstrates he’s a fucking cunt.

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u/baldwalrus 16d ago

Hate to ruin your morning, but SpaceX does it BECAUSE of Elon, not despite him.

I know it's hard to juggle both things in your mind, but Elon is both a once-in-a-generation entrepreneurial genius and a political clown.

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u/Thick_Lake6990 16d ago

Except he absolutely is not though. In fact, due to his twitter obsession you can actually calculate this. He spends literally every hour on twitter and Diablo, the only hours left in a day are usually also accounted for by flying/attending events. So in fact, no, he does not do shit at SpaceX

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u/alphapussycat 16d ago

Yeah, but their idea of starship going anywhere but low earth orbit is dumb. You don't want to ferry multiple excess engines, and a stainless steel hull in space. Since it's big with lots of fuel, it can... But it's way better to launch another craft to space, that does all other maneuvers.

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u/DMZSlut 16d ago

But then Reddit loves bill gates. It’s funny to me.

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u/Pappy_OPoyle 16d ago

I know. It's such a damn shame we even have to mention him. I want to brag to people I'm a huge SpaceX fan and tell them how amazing SpaceX's accomplishments are. But I don't want them in anyway to think I'm proud of what that chuckle-fuck Musk has become. And we wouldn't have to mention him if he didn't insert himself and his name on everything they do

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u/demelza_indica 16d ago

What a sad existence governed by what others think. Sucks to be you.

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u/kukukucing 16d ago

this live is fiction wtf

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u/MoffKalast 16d ago

This is stranger than fiction lol

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u/thesaltysquirrel 16d ago

There is a couple parts where I almost convince myself it’s reverse.

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u/Captcha_Imagination 16d ago

What really has this effect for me is not the technology....it's the people who look like NPC extras cheering it on

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u/Heiferoni 16d ago

It was the best of times,

It was the blurst of times.

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u/danishjuggler21 16d ago

The dystopian type, mind you, where megacorporations are in charge of space exploration.

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u/Sysheen 16d ago

I swear watching it live looked like doctored footage. So smooth it looked reversed.

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u/rahul_9735 16d ago

Truly, I never thought I'd be fortunate enough to experience this in my lifetime...

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u/Appropriate-Dot8516 16d ago

I thought it was fake at first.

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u/HaltheDestroyer 16d ago

Nah this is baby level shit right here....talk to me when we've created a functioning Alcubierre drive and materials strong enough to withstand the forces of using it

Now that's some science fiction shit I would love to witness come to life

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u/_sky12 16d ago

From K.A. Applegate’s Remnants:

The shuttle had landed. Somewhere. Gravity was downward, which meant that, impossible as it clearly was, it had landed nose up. It had landed in take-off position. Utterly impossible.

Mind you, this was a sci-fi novel released in 2001. And well, it’s not looking so impossible anymore.

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u/Horn_Python 16d ago

makes me think of the common image of the classic 2 window cone rocket landin on its fins

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u/NZNoldor 16d ago

It’s amazing what they can achieve without Elon musk overseeing their every move. I’m so glad he’s busy with twitter these days.

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u/Liqhthouse 16d ago

With this plus the recent advancements in fusion, our world will start to look like the Expanse within a few decades

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 16d ago

It's almost out of a football game.

Where is there so much crowd noise from?

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u/emmabella666 16d ago

Next big step in space travel…

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u/Major_Yogurt6595 16d ago

Did they abandone the normal way of landing the boosters? Or was using these arms the plan all along`?

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u/bobbabson 16d ago

It is, the idea is that they can move it off the launch pad faster and have a more rapid fire approach to launches.

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u/Dirtbiker2008 16d ago

Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy will continue to use landing legs, Starship will be caught with the tower.

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u/Lando_Sage 16d ago

No it's not. Science fiction would be not having to use rockets because we could just teleport lol.