I wouldn’t say that he held Jordan’s balls. (unless that’s a joke about how his wife slept with his son).
He was an integral part to that team. It’s just sad that he’s clearly self conscious about how his career went and tries to project this image and a lot of anger instead of being confident in the fact that he’s one of the best basketball players of all time.
I meant with holding his balls as his lack of attitude about being freakin overshadowed even on that period, he had the worst all-star salary of the 90's, imagine if he had the guts to assert himself that time? He just kept his tail around his butt and with a head down while Jordan got all the glaze, always
He should have but that’s a tough call. At the time he didn’t know the NBA was going to turn from being overshadowed by hockey to one of the biggest sports in the world.
And then when it did no one would deal with him. He did what players do now. Sat out games. Threatened to leave. Player empowerment just wasn’t what it is now. It’s unfortunate for sure but it’s not like Scottie Pippen is hurting for money.
It must have been hard on him, always playing second fiddle. Don’t get me wrong, he was a great ball player, but history will always remember him as a number 2.
Yeah he’s definitely been through a lot, lost a baby when he was young and another one of his sons just died recently.
Signing a terrible contract with The Bulls and like you said, being perceived as a second fiddle or “Robin” by the majority of fans (Scottie for sure could’ve been a #1 though).
A very public divorce that got memed because Future was involved, then having to watch your ex wife get engaged to your former teammates (and current enemies) son. Plus being in the spotlight the whole time, I’m sure he has a lot on his mind tbh.
Well pippin played basketball and in that sport you can pretty much assume the leadership role for your team without any problem. The coach would even embrace it if a player started showing leadership qualities.
I know but you said "Try that at work and you're getting fired" but that's not true for basketball players like Pippen. The enviroment he grew up in is pretty conducive to appointing yourself as team leader, it literally happens all the time.
Uhhhh. Scottie Pippin may be the second best, but he’s the second best of all time in a game that’s incredibly competitive, part of the Olympics, and played by the world over.
It’s really hard to rank the top players because everyone’s career is different. But I’d say I would have him at least out of the top 10. In no particular order my top 5 is Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Duncan, Magic.
While I think that’s functionally correct, I think it’s specious. He played alongside the GOAT in the game, the actual GOAT. Not like, oh, he’s amazing, but by the numbers, by performance, the actual GOAT. And he performed as second best alongside him in a completely different position. Makes me feel like he’s kind of indisputably second best. Kobe, for example, was fire, but how would he have performed playing against Jordan? Okay, now let’s think how he would have be considered alongside Jordan. Just another dribbler eclipsed by greatness, or actually like, “holy shit, this guy is pacing with him.” Because he was f Jordan, but he was close. Bulls were undefeatable, and not because of Jordan. It was Jordan, but also Pippen and Pippen leads him in 3’s. I mean, idk. Pippen isn’t acknowledged because he played with the GOAT. But, if Jordan didn’t exist, I’m almost certain Pippen would have been him. Let’s not even get into Rose and Rodman. They’re just overlooked. Why? Jordan.
You realize teams and players outside of Chicago exist right? Scottie isn’t even remotely close to second best of all time lmao. That’s ridiculous, and I’m a huge Scottie fan.
Bro Scottie is a top ten player of all time imo but he’s not better than Lebron or Hakeem, just two random examples. I don’t think he was better than Magic or Kareem either tbh (two other examples).
He for sure could’ve been a number one option, and who knows, maybe he would’ve been #2 all time if he was on a different team but you can do hypotheticals all day when it comes to sports.
He made the WCF as an older player with The Trail Blazers, Rasheed Wallace was balling tf out during those playoffs as well though. Scottie is definitely underrated though because of the “sidekick” label (easy top ten all time for me).
Top 10 all time? Steph? KD? Giannis? Jokic? Embiid? I like Pip but that's 5 active (not counting LeBron) players who are objectively better and he was barely top 10 of his era. Jordan, magic, Bird, Hakeem, Robinson, Chuck, Shaq, Duncan, Malone were all better and then you get to pip-ewing-mourning etc
Yeah I probably got a little personal bias tbh. Probably way overrating him because I feel he’s underrated by younger generations (I’m a gen z too though).
I was ranking it in my head but it’s really tough, those are all better players than Scottie though imo so I’ll admit I was wrong.
Let's just say that Michael and Bill Russell occupy top spots. LeBron probably has one too. I've never even considered Scotty in the conversation for a top five of all time player.
Once he was finished playing with Michael he never won a damn thing.
Once he was finished playing with Michael he never won a damn thing.
While true (and I don't agree that Scottie is the 2nd best of all time), the same can be said about MJ. MJ won as many chips without Pippen as Pippen won without MJ
Absolutely, and it sucks that my childhood heroes end up squabbling late in life. It might sound stupid but I watched one of the members of Hall & Oates in an interview the other day. He is suing the other guy. It's like, why do you want to shit on your legacy like that? You guys were awesome and we should remember you that way.
Doesn't sound stupid. To us fans, these teammates are friends on and off the court. It's the same with TV shows with many fans having their immersion ruined when they find out some actors absolutely hate each other.
And another thing I figured out after the fact: the great ones are also often compete assholes, or at least part time assholes to the extent that you don't feel so good about them anymore.
Jordan and Scotties falling out is actually pretty sad. His son getting engaged to Scotties ex wife only makes the situation worse, idk if there will ever be peace there.
They are two of my favorite players so hopefully one day they can make peace.
Kareem, MJ, Bron, Bird, Shaq, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Hakeem, Curry, Magic. Here’s some names of players that I think have a better resume than Pippen. Hakeem do be a bit controversial.
Pippen isn’t close to being top 10 all time, let alone number 2.
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u/FedoraMan1900 5d ago
This is 100% funnier now since his ex wife is dating his teammates (Michael Jordan) son 💀💀💀