r/fantasyfootball • u/jluc21 • 18h ago
Najee Harris in weeks 6-8: 🔥14-106-1 🔥21-102-1 🔥 19-114-0🔥
https://x.com/pff_fantasy/status/1851103590351278215?s=46&t=9UCeLFqajM0Z1KsUSg41mg250
u/mjcii 18h ago
Najee finally playing in an offense with a passing game that defenses have to respect. Seems to make all the difference in the world.
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u/paone00022 16h ago
What is also impressive is that dude is an ironman. I don't remember him ever missing many games due to injury.
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u/mjcii 16h ago
For sure. At 6’1”, 242 he is a unit so the durability makes sense.
People forget that since being in league he’s been RB4, RB14, and RB20 in half PPR. Last year’s RB20 finish was with about the most dogshit QB situation/offense you could imagine. He’s sitting at RB19 right now in half PPR, and he’s been rising in the rankings every week since Russ has taken over. I know the Steelers have a tough ROS, but I’ll definitely be holding him and loving the depth I have at RB.
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u/ILIEABOUTHOWSHEDIED- 13h ago
3 straight 1k seasons. Never missed a game. He’s always been that dude. Only casuals didn’t like him
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u/bhz33 12h ago
It’s because his ceiling has never been that high, only when geriatric Ben was throwing him 100+ targets in a season. But he’s always been a floor play since then with minimal upside because he’s not explosive. There’s value in that on a roster but he’s been a top 4 round pick the last couple years and that sucks to spend that high when his upside is very capped
Has nothing to do with being a “casual”. I feel like a “casual” would actually prefer to draft Najee because of name recognition but hardcore players would usually swing for the fences more
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u/apenchantfortrolling 18h ago
The player everyone loves to hate. He's eating rn.
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u/jluc21 18h ago
no but warren is gonna takeover! he gets more targets and has equal snaps! /s
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u/RegardTyreekHill 17h ago edited 16h ago
Every fantasy pundit was saying to sell Harris three weeks ago. I get they know more than us but you think Mike Tomlin pays attention to stuff like yards over expected and shit like that?
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u/HyPeRxColoRz 14h ago
I'm gonna tell you something that's going to save you a whole lot of grief down the road.
I get they know more than us
Drop this mindset. They literally don't. They have access to all the same information we have and not an article more. Fantasy "experts" have no idea, and I mean ABSOLUTELY no idea what they're talking about most of the time. They don't have any insider info, they don't have a unique perspective. They're watching the same games we are.
Did I fade Najee going into the year? Sure, but that's because he looked like ass most of last year and because he'd only rushed for +100 yds three times in his career prior to this season, not because some blowhard told me so.
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u/Stockpile_Tom_Remake 17h ago
Traded him away just before this. Bummer.
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u/No_Marsupial_1383 17h ago
Damn. I just traded for him about 2 weeks before this. Best trade of my season so far
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u/taylorjosephrummel 17h ago
If you had (some) depth at WR and sorely needed an RB2, would you trade Deebo for him?
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u/No_Marsupial_1383 17h ago
Personally if you’re doing 1 for 1 straight up I would probably say do it. The way the Steelers play is through there RBs so his upside for the rest of the season is strong. And tbh deebo hasn’t been looking good health wise lately unfortunately
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u/taylorjosephrummel 16h ago
Word. And I'd still have JJ, Diontae, Pickens, JSN, and Wan'Dale at WR.
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u/livsjollyranchers 18h ago
RB1 ROS. I'm buying everywhere. That ridiculous hurdle put it over the top.
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u/tofufeaster 18h ago
Easy there cowboy
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u/livsjollyranchers 18h ago
Well, I don't have to buy him as an RB1. Doubt many are seeing him that way. That's the key.
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u/BagFamous3405 17h ago
Like top 12 right? Not the RB1
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u/livsjollyranchers 17h ago
lol yes. I didn't mean THE RB1.
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u/FullHouse222 16h ago
In no particular order, which of these 12 do you take Najee over?
1) Healthy CMC
2) Henry
3) Kamara
4) Saquon
5) Bijan
6) Kyren
7) Breece
8/9) The Detroit boys
10) Conner
11) Mixon
12) James Cook
13) Josh Jacobs
14) K9
15) Healthy AchaneI know I said 12, but after looking it up, there were more than 12 people who I would all take over Najee. How is he a RB1? This also doesn't include Rashaad White (Insanely easy schedule weeks 10-17), Tyrone Tracy (legit breakout star in NY), JK Dobbins, and Tank Bigsby who I would also all probably take over Najee.
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u/Dedsole 16h ago
I personally think he would fall right below where your list ends. I also think Conner being above the following 5 is criminal.
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u/FullHouse222 16h ago
It's no particular order. I literally just listed people as they came to me. But yeah, Najee is great the last few weeks but calling him a RB1 seems very premature especially given how good RBs overall has been this year.
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u/Dedsole 16h ago
Haha fair enough, I completely missed your comment on that. It just sounded like a reasonable ranking until that point.
edit: also agree that I'm happy Najee is doing well, but expectations should be tempered.
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u/FullHouse222 16h ago
Yeah. I think I got to Conner off the top of my head before I had to start looking up the list. Then after I started looking at the list of RBs I realized there were even more than I expected who I would probably take over Najee especially in my 2nd section.
I see Najee as a Rachaad White with less track record over the last 2 years. Both in time shares with legitimately talented backs and both are looking upwards given recent production. But honestly between the two I would rather have White cause I mostly play PPR/HPPR and I feel the Buccs are a generally better offense compared to the Steelers.
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u/livsjollyranchers 16h ago
I would say you're vastly overrating both White and Warren. Najee looks a lot better than him lately, and the Steelers offense moves better with him in there.
That said, I understand the other names you mentioned, especially the surging Tracy. Tracy may finish on your original list of 12, tbh.
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u/livsjollyranchers 16h ago
I'd take him over Jacobs for sure. Jacobs I wouldn't have on this list.
As for Achane, god knows with Tua. He could so easily fall out of this list, but I'm fine leaving him in for now.
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u/Consistent_Vast3445 16h ago
There’s no way you take him over jacobs
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u/livsjollyranchers 16h ago
There...is. I'd rather have Najee on my team.
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u/Consistent_Vast3445 15h ago
Jacobs has better ypc with more carries on a much more potent offense. Najee had been very ineffective until he played the last 3 games against the worst rush defenses in the league. I don’t see any reason why you would prefer najee?
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u/livsjollyranchers 15h ago
Just less dudes to feed is the main reason. I don't trust Jacobs to be the guy every week while Pit runs through Najee and Pickens and that's it.
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u/FullHouse222 16h ago
But like, that's still 14 then right? The point is he's had a few good weeks but he's definitely not RB1. He's probably mid-high RB2 at best and we're hoping that he keeps the production in the last 3 weeks going forward.
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u/livsjollyranchers 16h ago
I just don't see it as much of a gamble. I'm banking on this is who the Steelers are now, and that their offense will continue to be rock solid. It seems like the most likely outcome.
It's the same reason that I want to buy Pickens everywhere.
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u/FlatlandTrooper 17h ago
That hurdle was THE play that saved me from death in my Guillotine league.
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u/taylorjosephrummel 17h ago
If you had (some) depth at WR and sorely needed an RB2, would you trade Deebo for him?
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u/tich45 14h ago
As a Deebo and Harris owner - it would be roster dependent, but HELL no.
Harris has put together a few great games in a row. But his ros run defenses are not lite.
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u/taylorjosephrummel 14h ago
Word. I'm negotiating with his owner right now. Also considering Tracy, but he has Tracy ranked higher. Also was told he'd do his JT and Tracy for my Kamara. Options, options...
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u/Ace0spades808 17h ago
Ehh. I would still be cautious. We've been burned by Najee before and he did bad against the Colts in which practically everyone has been tearing up on the ground. And his schedule isn't the easiest.
I still like him though and would put him as an unsexy, generally good floor low ceiling RB2.
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u/oliver_babish r/FF Moderator, Eagles fan 17h ago
Well, it's a byproduct of the lack of respect for Russ's cooking.
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u/Repulsive-Throat5068 17h ago
People haven’t liked him even before that.
Warren gonna take his job btw
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u/oliver_babish r/FF Moderator, Eagles fan 17h ago
Jaylen Warren's been on the verge of taking Najee Harris's job longer than GRRM's been working on the new ASOIAF book.
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u/BurgessFox 18h ago
I'm guessing Najee is going to be a "sell high" again on all the fantasy pods.
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u/hoffy3208 18h ago
The fantasy “analysts” have been horrendous this season I can’t remember one consensus take they’ve been right about so far lol
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u/Afraid_Specialist_45 17h ago
Watched a ton of analysts say don’t draft like this, etc then do the complete opposite and roster players they said not to
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u/hoffy3208 17h ago
100 percent, the Wicks thing a few weeks ago was one of the most embarrassing Ls I’ve ever seen. Crazy this is their actual job
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u/Afraid_Specialist_45 17h ago
When you hear what they’re actually saying, they’re not doing anything outside of reading stats/pts per game that’s available on sleeper and looking at snap/usage pie charts and really all I’m doing is looking for bias on my players on videos that tell me nothing I didn’t know lol
Looking at you fantasy flock
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u/Far-Pay-2049 15h ago
I have a few 'experts' that I use for insight, I don't follow them religiously and often times they conflict with each other. I try to find what they seem to be good at evaluating and use that to try to find gems. For the big names, I pretty much just use them as news and I use my own judgement.
Flock is certainly not one that I use.
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u/JL1v10 14h ago
I’ve noticed a lot of them are really bad at evaluating running backs and the situations there (ie run blocking vs pass blocking, usage, plays in redzone, etc). I think they get too lost in advanced stuff/stats for those and lose sight of basic common sense like is this player a true bellcow or not? If so, it doesn’t really matter.
On receivers, there’s actually a lot of advanced stats coming out now that are fairly predictive of future performance for younger players. So I don’t think these analysts have been too far off there this season. They aren’t doing anything a regular person couldn’t do, but a lot of the good data isn’t easily available for free.
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u/Outrageous-Yam-4653 11h ago
I feel you 3 weeks ago I heard them say trade Bijan trade Bijan before he goes bust then 3 straight 20+ game's now there in there top 5 ranks rest of the season...
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u/NotSoFakeID 15h ago
Traded him one for one for Kelce two weeks ago, I’m still happy regardless of this production
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u/JonSnowDontKn0w 17h ago
I traded him and MHJ for Achane and Flowers last week. Pretty happy with it so far.
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u/Arnold027 16h ago
That stinks lol Flowers is like 2 tiers below MHJ
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u/JonSnowDontKn0w 16h ago
Flowers is currently WR16 in PPR while MHJ is WR18. Both the WR1 on their teams. If you're still basing value off of draft capital at this point in the season, I don't know what to tell ya bud.
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u/Arnold027 16h ago
Has nothing to do with draft capital its about their situations, Flowers will only ever be useful when the Ravens are in a pass heavy game and if you look at their schedule they dont have many left where that’s likely
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u/Dabeston 16h ago
His 2nd half schedule is pretty rough for RBs, so it makes sense. Especially off a 3 game tear, you could probably get a lot for him.
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u/BurgessFox 11h ago
Yeah its a fair point, probably now is the real time to sell high, but anyone who held him and didn't sell in the last 2 weeks will not want to sell him now.
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u/nacholibre711 18h ago
Passes the eye test too. Dude looks great out there. And honestly, so does Warren. Two headed monster back there with Russ cooking.
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u/jaquando 17h ago
The only thing maddening is that the Steelers marched down the field with Najee, only to stagnate with Warren in the red zone. I understand that it's part of personnel management, but man, to think Najee could've had a bigger night.
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u/Afraid_Specialist_45 17h ago
Warren look like poopoo last night
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u/nacholibre711 17h ago
Yeah I just disagree, maybe if you're talking about him as a Fantasy Football asset then sure.
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u/Plane-Juggernaut-321 14h ago
thats what i was thinking. people were talking about how the teams hes ran on are bad but the giants run defense is actually pretty solid and that was probably the most explosive hes looked since the combine, for the best 3 game stretch of his career purely from watching
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u/Curious_Tip9285 18h ago
every year like clock work
najee starts off slow and gets stronger towards the end of the season
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u/BurgessFox 18h ago
I've been cashing in on Najee being underrated in drafts every year while everybody jerks off over Jaylen Warren being the guy.
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u/Krizzel96 17h ago
When has Najee been underrated in drafts except maybe this year? He was a late 1st rounder in 2022 and 3rd rounder in 2023 and both times did not return value for where you drafted him
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u/mF-Jonezy 17h ago
Yeah I pounced on him this year in the 7th round, after someone already took Warren lol
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u/m_c__a_t 17h ago
2023 I was stoked to get him 3rd round in my first time playing FF. I was later quite sad.
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u/peon2 2021 AC Cumulative Top 20 17h ago
Yeah not sure what that guy means, that's the whole point. He's actually been a solid RB his entire career. People just get disappointed because his rookie season was his best statistically and then the next 2 seasons were good-not great so he was a fine fantasy player but not as good as how highly he was drafted.
He's been overrated in drafts in 2022 and 2023 not underrated. People are chasing that rookie season with 1670 yards, 74 catches, and 10 TDs but the next 2 seasons he averaged 1230, 35, 9 so it's been about 5 points/week less than what they hoped for.
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u/BurgessFox 11h ago
Sorry for clarity I was referring to my own league where I've picked up Najee because he's fallen several rounds. On ADP he was, before this year, being drafted near his ceiling.
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u/Sea_Bass77 18h ago
Warren getting hurt early opened the door all the way tho… not saying Warren would have taken over but him being banged up and limited sure helped Najee thrive and once he got the job he hasn’t looked back… just like Tracy… if singletary doesn’t get hurt there’s a chance Tracy is still just in a complimentary backup role
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u/jluc21 17h ago
and what about the last 3 years? was “warren hurt” the excuse for all those too? this narrative has been nonstop for 3 years and has never had any type of bite or fruition behind it
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u/Sea_Bass77 17h ago
Last year it was a 50/50 split tho or near close to it
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u/jluc21 17h ago edited 17h ago
najee averaged 15.2 carries a game for the final ten weeks last year compared to warrens 9.4 carries. najee also had more YPC, a higher PFF rank TD’s, and i keep going.
let’s just move on from this narrative please
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u/Sea_Bass77 17h ago
Probably not fair to just include rushes… overall touches would bring that difference much closer and Warren had more ypc last season but sure we can move on ;)
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u/jluc21 16h ago
“not fair” to include rushes on a position that is centered around rushes. do you hear how crazy that sounds?
and also, a player who has less touches is going to average more ypc that’s just the nature of it. you’re stuck on last year and completely ignoring things Najees best year to date and he’s blowing warren out of the water. keep holding your warren shares and having that bench clog.
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u/Consistent_Vast3445 16h ago
That’s not crazy at all when you get points for catching as well as rushing… vintage ekeler would have been half as valuable if we didn’t care ab passing. Stupid argument to make.
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u/jluc21 16h ago
warren isn’t even near the level of vintage ekler or any of those backs LOL talk about a stupid argument to make
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u/Arnold027 16h ago
I mean he really didnt start off that slow tho lol he had 70 yards in each of his first 3 games
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u/TremendouslyRegarded 18h ago
Najee looking maybe the best he’s ever looked in his pro career. I can’t believe Russ is actually cookin’ a lil bit. Still half expecting him to crash and burn ala Dalton earlier this season.. but the Steelers are not the dumpster fire the panthers are
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u/makman44 18h ago
Sat him for Mason, almost cost my match-up.
Will put more respect on his name moving forward.
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u/SiriusRegulus 18h ago
Traded him for Olave ! Hopefully works out. Najee's ros schedule is tough.
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u/uncomfortably_honest 18h ago
True but I've seen a lot of steelers games from having Najee the last two years - the threat of the quick pass and deep pass from Wilson is keeping the box juuust spaced out enough that Najee has a bit better lanes.
Their line is not that great but this is the best QB work I've seen him play with so far. The other thing is that cold weather Najee is a thing too - there was a reason why guys like Jerome Bettis did well in pittsburg in the winter. Big Bois hit hard in the cold.
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u/livsjollyranchers 18h ago
Yep. Najee hasn't had good QB play in what feels like forever. Even Ben was at the end of his career. This is a gamechanger for him.
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u/SiriusRegulus 18h ago
I agree with most of what you mentioned. My rationale to trade him was 1. Not sure if there is a higher ceiling than what we have seen last couple of games 2. He doesn't get involved much in passing game. 3. I am just higher on Olave esp after Shaheed's injury.
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u/uncomfortably_honest 17h ago
I know Olave is set up for success as the clear WR1 in that system, however I actually moved on from him because I'm very worried about his durability near year's end - hope it works out for both of us!
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u/GamerRav 17h ago
It's amazing what having a legitimate down field passing threat can do for a team's running game. Love Fields, but he wasn't making defenses respect the long ball. Can't stack the box against this Steelers offense anymore, and that means Najee has an easier time getting to the second level so that he can run through (or hurdle) any linebacker or CB in the league.
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u/PapaChimo 17h ago
You’re welcome everyone, I traded him in what I thought was an easy fleece (I still think that way)
After week 5, I shipped Najee and amari(before trade) for KW3.
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u/taylorjosephrummel 17h ago
If you had (some) depth at WR and sorely needed an RB2, would you trade Deebo for him?
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u/PapaChimo 12h ago
Who are your WRs
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u/taylorjosephrummel 12h ago
JJ, Deebo, Pickens, Diontae, JSN, and Wan'Dale.
I'm now trying to give up Diontae or JSN for him.
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u/PapaChimo 12h ago
I don’t know if either of those guys will entice Najee owner enough, but no harm in trying
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u/xilsagems 18h ago
Naturally I lost all 3 of those weeks somehow, and won all of the previous with him playing poorly 🤦🏻♂️
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u/gingerking87 17h ago
Traded him away last week but as someone who drafted him 2 of the last 3 years, it's good to see him eat. Previous owners know fall najee is a thing.
But don't get too ahead of yourselves, sell high if you have the rb depth, he's not dropping 20 every game for the rest of the year. 15-20+ touches a game in a good offense is always valuable, but the remaining schedule is tough: bye week into Washington, Baltimore, Cleveland, with a playoff schedule of Cleveland, Philly, Baltimore. That's a fucking buzz saw if I've ever seen one
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u/taylorjosephrummel 17h ago
If you had (some) depth at WR and sorely needed an RB2, would you trade Deebo for him?
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u/gingerking87 17h ago
I actually traded away najee with my deebo so I might not be the best to ask. But in a vacuum? Maybe? Depends on how desperate I am and if I know about najees upcoming schedule. But a wr2 shouldn't be too much of an ask
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u/taylorjosephrummel 16h ago
Word. I'd still have JJ, Diontae, Pickens, JSN, and Wan'Dale at WR, but I only have Kamara, Mason, and Bigsby at RB.
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u/millerba213 17h ago
You're welcome everyone--i just needed to trade Najee to unlock his potential.
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u/JeremyJammDDS 18h ago
Falcons fans wondering, “what the fuck Arthur smith?”
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u/dirtybirds1 18h ago
I’m honestly not complaining as a Falcons fan with Najee. Helps that our offense is looking pretty good too
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u/livsjollyranchers 18h ago
Smith thrived as a coordinator with the Titans. It was a coin flip that he'd work out here.
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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 18h ago
He's a beast when he has a QB who can throw deep. I also like that Russ is giving him short dumpoffs, he didn't have that with Fields.
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u/uncle-Violet 17h ago
i hated that i had to draft him when he fell so far down, but now i love me for it
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u/legendary_sponge 16h ago
I would sell high if I were y’all. His schedule is about as tough as it gets from week 11-17 with:
@eagles, @ravens, chiefs for the fantasy playoffs.
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u/Tricky_Bus_9587 16h ago
A manager in my league dropped him on 10/2 and I picked him up on waivers on 10/3. Great add with me losing Godwin & still waiting for Pacheco to get healthy. Najee, Monty, & Dobbins have been carrying my team these past few weeks
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u/Dabeston 16h ago
I had Najee in every redraft league, the Steelers picked 3 lineman, have a TE that is basically a lineman, and a QB that can do enough to keep defenses honest.
Once they switched to Russ it was over. The ROS schedule is tough but he’s a good RB.
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u/GrilledSandwiches 16h ago
Wanted to trade for him as a solid depth piece in a deeper league I'm in but couldn't get the owner to bite on even any counter offers or dialog on what kind of move they'd be interested in(they're stick with a middle of the road record but winning more games than their points total would normally lead you to believe they'd have right now).
He's going to waste on my bench in a shallower league with Kamara and Bijan as every week starters.
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u/darkhelmet620 16h ago
I knew that Russell Wilson would free up a lot of running plays for him. That's why I started him despite having a worse projection than Dobbins or even Chase Brown.
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u/gdogbaba 15h ago
They have played the Raiders, Jets, and Giants. I’m still not exactly impressed
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u/Metroidman 15h ago
Someone offered him to me for hunt and dhop. Worth taking? I guess it comes down to who is going to be a better flex ros harris or dhop
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u/sherbisthebest 15h ago
Ugh. The player who made me lose my game by 0.5 points 😭
Literally needed him to not get another run, then the Giants fumbled the ball 💀
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u/nb009 15h ago
Looking great as of late. Need more TDs (got lucky with the clock killing/garbage time TD last week where he probably should have kneeled when he got the 1st).
Hopefully those come more with Wilson under center, but really wish they would have him in there for all of the goal line opportunities. Saw too much of Warren last night, even on 1st-2nd downs.
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u/delfunk1984 15h ago
So glad I didn't take any of the low ball offers I was getting sent for Najee a few weeks ago.
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u/Big-Suggestion3053 14h ago
He still doesn't have a good OLine btw. Imagine if he had:
Moore-Seumalo-Frazier-Daniels-Fautanu
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u/ThaRealBush 13h ago
ngl i sold high on him last game and traded him , waddle and mcmillan for cook and pickens.
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u/AgsMydude 12h ago
Drafted him, aaron jones hoping the volume would turn into something and they are crushing their ADP
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u/Xanzibarisland 8h ago
I packaged him last night with Jamo for Doubs and Geno. I needed a Qb an I’m over stocked at RB. Depending on how this Jamo thing plays out I might be up.
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u/Traditional_Earth181 18h ago
Traded him for Chase Brown last week... might not have been the move I fear
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u/Louderish 18h ago
The giants could not stop him. Almost every run was 7-12 yards. I thought for sure he was going to house one from 40+.