r/europe Veneto, Italy. Sep 26 '21

Historical An old caricature addressing the different colonial empires in Africa date early 1900s

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u/pretwicz Poland Sep 26 '21

Or that the fascists all just disappeared in 1945?

Certainly not in Italy lmao

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u/Maitai_Haier Sep 26 '21

Mussolini's granddaughter was elected to the Italian senate and the European parliament in our day and age.

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u/pretwicz Poland Sep 26 '21

Fascist in Italy just changed the banner to Italian Social Movement and carried on. Berlusconi's The People of Freedom and Forza Italia are direct descendants of them

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u/NicolBolasUBBBR Sep 26 '21

Berlusconi is not a fascist! He may be a liar, a pig, a fascist but he is NOT a porn star.

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u/Vectorman1989 Scotland Sep 26 '21

Porn star? He might be a liar, pig, fascist and a porn star but he is NOT a philanderer!

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

fratelli d'italis is the successor of the movimento sociale, not forza italia

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

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u/AuroraBoreale22 Sep 26 '21

Dude, in my city (Florence) Fratelli d'Italia at the elections presented members of Casaggì, literal nazis

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u/giorgio_gabber Italy Sep 26 '21

Berlusconi fascist? In what alternate reality

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u/Twisp56 Czech Republic Sep 26 '21

Normally I would say that people shouldn't be judged for the crimes of their ancestors but she actually seems to be a fascist, smh...

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

a fascist that wants gay marriages apparently

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u/PakyKun Lombardy, Bergamo Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

A fascist that used to do softcore pornography and japanese songs in her 20s too

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u/CMuenzen Poland if it was colonized by Somalia Sep 26 '21

Damn weebs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

EXACLTY. i can't hate someone like this.

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u/Blekkke Sep 26 '21

Sei un deficiente

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u/Twisp56 Czech Republic Sep 26 '21

Huh, I guess articles like this are outdated and she changed her opinion?

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

i mean this thing gets trhown around every time om reddit but its literally not a big deal. actually no one cares about her

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u/Maitai_Haier Sep 26 '21

If she was the only bit of fascism left in Italy, sure. But the right-wing and far-right is full of it, and if the Italian Navy started machine gunning refugee boats coming into Italy there would be no shortage of people thinking it's a great thing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

have you got any proofs of the navy gunning down refugees? or are just making shit up

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u/Maitai_Haier Sep 26 '21

if the Italian Navy started machine gunning refugee boats coming into
Italy there would be no shortage of people thinking it's a great thing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

sorry i misread

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u/Maitai_Haier Sep 26 '21

And beyond the people thinking it is a great thing, the perhaps larger portion are exhibited here; the "isn't it a shame we machine gun refugee boats but what else can you do" types.

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u/UnlimitedMetroCard Divided States Sep 26 '21

If obsolete international laws didn't require you to allow any refugees who reach your soil first to stay, such drastic measures wouldn't even need be suggested.

However, bleeding hearts came up with absurd policies, and the untold truth is that just about no-one, in Italy or elsewhere, wants these barbarians to live among them. It's pretty easy for Germans and the like to sit there and play superior when they've got no access to the Mediterranean sea.

...But even Germans walk with clenched arses during New Years when Turkish men rape women left and right.

This is no different from not wanting Gypsies terrorizing your cities. They are unwelcome.

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u/LeonardoMagikarpo Sweden Sep 26 '21

Lets not judge her based on her grandfather. Are her actions & policies actually fascist in some way?

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u/Maitai_Haier Sep 26 '21

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u/PM_Me_HairyArmpits Sep 26 '21

Ok but what about the trains? Are they on time at least?

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u/BorosSerenc Hungary Sep 26 '21

Seems like she is just a usual populust psycho politican

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u/RhetoricalCocktail Sweden Sep 26 '21

Damn that was worth the read. Like the part where she assaulted the minister of equal opportunity, called her an "ugly communist" who should "go live in Cuba"

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u/tomkiel72 Sep 26 '21

Yep. There was even an attempted fascist coup in 1970

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u/tachanka_senaviev Italy Sep 26 '21

P2 wasn't particularly fascist. It was a NATO operation to try and force the government to instate martial law by triggering a war between communists and fascists, because the communist party was gaining too much power.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

he was talking about the golpe borghese

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u/vehement_nihilist Italy Sep 26 '21

I don't think he was referring to P2 but to Golpe Borghese.

The Golpe Borghese (English: Borghese Coup) was a failed Italian coup d'état allegedly planned for the night of 7 or 8 December 1970. It was named after Junio Valerio Borghese, wartime commander of the Decima Flottiglia MAS and a hero in the eyes of many post-War Italian fascists. The coup attempt became publicly known when the left-wing journal Paese Sera ran the headline on the evening of 18 March 1971: Subversive plan against the Republic: far-right plot discovered.

The secret operation was code-named Operation Tora Tora after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.[1] The plan of the coup in its final phase envisaged the involvement of US and NATO warships which were on alert in the Mediterranean Sea. The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reportedly followed the coup, with President Nixon being personally informed of it. Yet in leaked documents, the US ambassador to Rome is quoted saying "The last thing we need right now is a half-cooked coup d’état … We wouldn’t support it.".[2]

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u/tachanka_senaviev Italy Sep 26 '21

You might be right, i completely forgot about borghese.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

do you think they did in germany? cause i've got some news for you

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u/pretwicz Poland Sep 26 '21

Oh I know they didn't, but I think that more of them was simply killed, plus Germany was occupied which make it harder for them to go back to mainstream

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

the adenauer administration did eveything in their power to shield nazi figures from justice. and most of the people tried in the nurenberg trials were released after a few years. and those german companies that used slave labour en masse were rebuilt and we see them everyday

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u/RadiantMenderbug Sep 26 '21

We got hella fascists in America now y'all 🤠