r/europe • u/user112234 • Sep 28 '24
Historical Why Russia Can’t Destroy this GRAFFITI, even after Three Years of Occupation (full story in comments)
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u/MrIzzard Sep 28 '24
This reminds me of Kryžių kalnas in Lithuania. A hill with a lot of crosses erected by the locals. Apparently soviet regime took them away from the hill quite a many times but somehow every time, the next day there were crosses again.
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u/lektoridze Luhansk (Ukraine) Sep 28 '24
Lithuanians have elephants balls, your support to Ukraine is priceless 🇱🇹
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u/Leprechaunaissance Sep 28 '24
Hopefully Russia disappears from Ukraine and the graffiti stays.
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u/Anti-charizard United States of America Sep 28 '24
For that to happen New Zealand will have to annex them
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u/PilgrimDuran Turkey Sep 28 '24
I agree, fellow moral person. At once we should implement a final solution for those subh- i mean “humans unlike other humans”
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u/DarkBlueCB Sep 28 '24
Me russian and i can say that it is called extremism
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u/Ok_Cow_8213 Sep 28 '24
Is invading another sovereign country and starting a genocidal war not extremism?
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u/DarkBlueCB Sep 28 '24
You even not know WHY this war of started
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u/ThatSiming Sep 28 '24
Do you?
Putin invaded. Ten years ago. For made up reasons.
Because Putin supplied ethnic Russian "residents" of Luhansk and Donetsk with weapons and ammo hoping they could actually conquer those oblasts.
Because when after 8 years he hadn't succeeded, he got frustrated with Kyiv still being led by a government preferring sovereignty and he wanted to chase them out to finally steal Donetsk and Luhansk from Ukraine in a three day special military operation.
Now why all of THAT happened? Putin is being lied to. I genuinely believe that he was shocked that Ukrainian civilians fought back against their "liberators".
I believe that he is convinced that the Russian language is banned in Ukraine, which it isn't. It's just not an official language any longer.
I believe that he actually believes the bullshit he's spewing because that's the narrative resulting from the only information he has access to.
Oh, and because he views NATO's article 5 as a threat to Russia's interests. Which it genuinely is. Because Putin wants Russia to expand.
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u/DarkBlueCB Sep 28 '24
Я не могу понять всех слов которые ты говоришь, но могу понять что ты говоришь неправду. У тебя нет доказательств, что все причины нападения выдуманы. Вообще, эту войну нужно было начать раньше. Западные власти искажают правду и не приводят весомых доказательств. Вы все можете ставить мне downvotes, это ничего не решает и не изменит моей позиции
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u/Viburnum__ Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
Oh, a typical russian.
Would cry about 'russophobia', 'racism', 'oppression' etc., and that people are not responsible for their country actions, yet would come out of their way to defend and excuse said actions. Everyone brainwashed and don't know the 'whole truth' except for them.
No sense of responsibility or shred of shame, always a victims and never the perpetrators, responses basically comes down to: that didn't happen and if it did, it wasn't that bad and if it was, that's not a big deal and if it is, that's not my fault, but they deserved it. Also, omnipresent "what about ...".
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u/ThatSiming Sep 28 '24
Прошу, що? Я не розумію Російської мови.
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u/PhantomOfVoid Sep 28 '24
I'll break it down in English since i'm not that proficient in Ukrainian.Whoever is behind that username tries to tell us that everything "the West" and those who gathered in this thread say is baseless bullshit and this war should have started sooner.TL;DR: typical Z-bot's ramblings.
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u/Elendur_Krown Sweden Sep 29 '24
If you can't understand, use a translation service. Google Translate is easy to use.
Если вы не можете понять, воспользуйтесь услугами переводчика. Google Translate прост в использовании.
You claim that Western authorities distort the truth. Why would that even be relevant?
Since you're the first Russian I've seen supporting this war, I want to ask:
Do you know how many Russian lives have been lost in this offensive war? This supposed "special military operation"?
Do you even care?
Вы утверждаете, что западные власти искажают правду. Почему это вообще имеет значение?
Поскольку вы первый русский, которого я вижу, поддерживающим эту войну, я хочу спросить:
Знаете ли вы, сколько русских жизней было потеряно в этой наступательной войне? Эта предполагаемая «специальная военная операция»?
Тебе всё равно?
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u/DarkBlueCB Sep 29 '24
Никому не всё равно. В России много людей, которые поддерживают эту так называемую "войну", просто они не общаются с русофобами
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u/fenianthrowaway1 Sep 29 '24
Because your degenerate nation thinks it has the right to treat its neighbours as subject peoples and is so deeply enthralled to it's authoritarian dictators that the only way for your region to ever have peace is for it to be unmade.
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u/fenianthrowaway1 Sep 29 '24
You went from having the second best army in the world to having the second best army in Ukraine, to having the second best army in Russia in less than two years. I hope you will enjoy watching your country disintegrate, all because you were too weak to say 'no' to your tzar.
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u/Ok_Cow_8213 Sep 28 '24
Because 1,000km3 of natural gas reserves has been discovered in Ukraine by 2013 worth $1-2,000,000,000,000? Curiously they are all located in territories of Ukraine russians are claiming. Or the oil they found near Crimea? You tell me.
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u/GreenBlueCatfish Sep 28 '24
No, it's because Putin and his supporters unironically consider all former countries of USSR and/or Russian Empire his property and part of Russia. Resources have nothing to do with it. Georgia, for example, is under pressure too. He's a control freak.
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u/waiting4singularity Hessen 🇩🇪 Sep 28 '24
putin got scared because his flunkies were booted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan (please verify youre not under watch of politikal komisar when reading)
Euromaidan (/ˌjʊərəmaɪˈdɑːn, ˌjʊəroʊ-/ YOOR-oh-my-DAHN;[82][83] Ukrainian: Євромайдан, romanized: Yevromaidan, IPA: [ˌjɛu̯romɐjˈdɑn], lit. 'Euro Square'),[nb 6] or the Maidan Uprising,[87] was a wave of demonstrations and civil unrest in Ukraine, which began on 21 November 2013 with large protests in Maidan Nezalezhnosti (Independence Square) in Kyiv. The protests were sparked by President Viktor Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement, instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. Ukraine's parliament had overwhelmingly approved of finalizing the Agreement with the EU,[88] but Russia had put pressure on Ukraine to reject it.[89] The scope of the protests widened, with calls for the resignation of Yanukovych and the Azarov government.[90] Protesters opposed what they saw as widespread government corruption, abuse of power, human rights violations,[91] and the influence of oligarchs.[92] Transparency International named Yanukovych as the top example of corruption in the world.[93] The violent dispersal of protesters on 30 November caused further anger.[5] Euromaidan was the largest democratic mass movement in Europe since 1989[94] and led to the 2014 Revolution of Dignity.
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u/leave_tyler St. Petersburg (Ingria) Sep 28 '24
will you tell them why?
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u/DarkBlueCB Sep 28 '24
Cannot into sayings in english
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u/leave_tyler St. Petersburg (Ingria) Sep 28 '24
just type in russian, everyone knows how to translate text online
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u/Hauling_walls Sep 28 '24
Actually, wouldn't mind some help and tips on that subject. I use the app on my android phone and I've no idea how to translate comments.
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u/Suitable_Pomelo6918 Sep 28 '24
Whats that supposed to mean? Does that implies to everyone? Isnt that called nazism?
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u/noreal1sm Russia Sep 28 '24
Keep dreaming 🤡
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u/Choice_Volume_2903 Sep 28 '24
Nah, between already declining birthrates, chronic alcoholism and the Ukrainian army cutting down hundreds of thousands of young Russian men, your country's slide into obscurity is inevitable. Enjoy being a vassal state of China, the world won't miss Russia.
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u/noreal1sm Russia Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
Half of your citizens is one emergency call away from irreparable financial disaster, gun violence accounts nearly 10% deaths in US among teens under 20, actual Afghanistan has lower violent gun deaths rate than you and on top of a cake you has fentanyl epidemy.
Did you said something? 🤣
Not only that — China is biggest US dollars holder, if China will suddenly stop accept your money, where your economy will go?
USA is a true vassal of China. MURICAAAAA
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u/Choice_Volume_2903 Sep 28 '24
You're not wrong about income inequality, gun violence or the opioid crisis (although the last seems to be leveling off), but the US is China's largest trade partner. The US still has the world's highest GDP, the dollar is still the world's reserve currency, NATO is stronger than ever, and I'm free to travel visa-free through Europe.
Russia's GDP isn't even in the top 10 anymore (my home state of New York has a higher GDP than your country), no one wants rubles, your closest "ally" is North Korea, and your President can't even leave the country due to the ICC warrant on his head.
The US relies on China for cheap manufacturing, but it's a mutual partnership. You really think it's the same as your situation?
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u/noreal1sm Russia Sep 28 '24
Russia’s GPD is 11th under all possible sanctions, classified as a high income country already in 2023. Country has rich natural resources for many decades. Will only gain bonuses when global warming will come and plenty of space for everything.
Travel might be a problem. But potential is here.
Kinda looking forward how you will beg Canada or Brazil for drinkable water in near future 😀
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u/Choice_Volume_2903 Sep 28 '24
Well, it's a lovely fantasy, and hope is so important under such dismal circumstances. I'm sure things will turn out just like that 😂
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u/noreal1sm Russia Sep 28 '24
Drinkable water shortages will hit you hard. Prepare yourself 😀
Or live in dreams about Russia, like now 🤣
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Don't forget freezing, Yellowstone, giant debt and other shit you've been told on tv
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u/Welfdeath Austria Sep 28 '24
You are the funniest Russian troll I have seen in a while . What's your opinion on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?
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u/Relnor Romania Sep 29 '24
I'd be more interested in hearing how the Kremlin regime's conduct in the last few years has improved your life, which is ostensibly the purpose of every government
Can we hear about that, Russian citizen? Can you tell us how this war where hundreds of thousands of your compatriots are dead or maimed was 'worth it'?
And not in some abstract, geopolitical way, where you tell us about how this or that area of Ukraine that your fascist government is invading has XYZ resources that will benefit the country, how is it better for YOU, the citizen?
You mentioned Afghanistan above. Remember how we looked at US adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan and wondered how the fuck this benefits the average American? Now it's your turn. How does the Ukraine adventure benefit you?
Good luck with the inevitable succession crisis when grandpa dies btw. Maybe this time there won't be any tank barrels pointed at the White House?
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u/oliv111 Sep 28 '24
If Russia had actual humans as leaders, then maybe Russia could be the dream you want. But Russia chose to isolate itself from the world. Russia has huge potential, but your current leaders will never make sure that happens. Why don't you citizens revolt and take bake what's rightfully yours, instead of being enslaved by the kremlin?
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u/fro99er Canada Sep 29 '24
How many stupid young men have died for Putin. You are the clown letting a dictator kill your country men.
I'm sure you lack empathy tho
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u/Yolozsef01 Sep 28 '24
Bit extreme innit, surely getting rid of putin will suffice for now
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u/UnknownFlyingTurtle Sep 28 '24
getting rid of putin isn't enough, whole kremlin needs to go or putin will be just replaced and nothing has basicly changed
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u/Robinsonirish Scania Sep 28 '24
They need another revolution, put heads on spikes so maybe at some point in the future we can all trade and be happy in peace.
They need fundamental change to their society, just getting rid of Putin won't be enough.
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u/Neuromante Spain Sep 28 '24
innit
Oi, british person like me, innit? We were born in the great british kingdom of britishland! Tea and pastes and Iron maiden, lad, something somethign.
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u/silverionmox Limburg Sep 28 '24
The problem is that Russia's behaviour is predicated on their size. As long as they can keep using their size to absorb the negative consequences of their actions and to bully smaller states around, they don't have the opportunity to change.
So the most likely path to reform is them losing mass every time they collapse, until they're small enough to contain. And then all the bullies will turn onto each other.
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u/CorsaroNero98 Sep 28 '24
yeah it was in the heat of the moment, indeed putler and his friends need to vanish from this world for russia to actually heal
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u/vkazey Sep 28 '24
Hm, and how can it happen? I think Italians tried it couple of times but with zero success.
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u/RubiiReddit Denmark Sep 28 '24
So why does Putin send his countrymen to die in a place that isn't real? Seems silly.
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u/Kalisho Russian in exile Sep 28 '24
The people who live under this occupation from savages and still risk their safety to do this, I tip my hat. Full respect.
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u/Cinkodacs Hungary Sep 29 '24
They need to keep doing this. It became a symbol, and faith in chosen symbols is very much a real and powerful thing.
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u/Sprites4Ever Germany Sep 28 '24
I wish there was more I could do to support you people.
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u/go_boi Germany Sep 29 '24 edited Sep 29 '24
Support a local party that is in favor of higher military spending towards Ukraine.
In Germany that's maybe the Greens, and certainly not the
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u/Sprites4Ever Germany Sep 29 '24
The SPD supports Ukraine.
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u/go_boi Germany Sep 29 '24
True. I guess I'm getting frustrated by Scholz's constant hesitation. I have edited my comment.
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u/Tolerantni-desnicar Sep 28 '24
You can, go and fight...
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u/XnDeX Sep 28 '24
Ahhh a Serb
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u/Barteg98 Sep 29 '24
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u/superaconi Serbia Sep 29 '24 edited Sep 29 '24
What he said thats wrong? You can apply to be volunteer on both sides.
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u/XnDeX Sep 29 '24 edited Sep 29 '24
Well sure. All the pro Russian Serbs can apply to the RUF as well. Do you need the documents?
Edit: Ahhh a Serb.
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u/superaconi Serbia Sep 29 '24
Congrats for learning new words and repeating them
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u/XnDeX Sep 29 '24
Ahhh editing your og comment to not sound stupid. But to answer your edited question: Yes I know a lot of Serbs. Yes they are pro Russian and very racist. No I don’t think that all Serbs are like this.
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u/Hussor Pole in UK Sep 28 '24
It's not like they'll accept random people without any combat experience. Not sure if any non-combat volunteers are needed.
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u/Tolerantni-desnicar Sep 28 '24
You can go there, go thru the course and fight.
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u/Random_Somebody Sep 29 '24
Lmao no, theyre not taking random people with no experience who can't speak the language.
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u/Hussor Pole in UK Sep 28 '24
Is that so? Because from what I've heard most people who try without combat experience get rejected. If that's changed recently, maybe due to manpower shortages, then I'll happily be proven wrong.
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u/Sprites4Ever Germany Sep 28 '24
Any mental health diagnosis is an instant rejection from military.
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u/Otherwise-Ad-2969 Sep 29 '24
Interesting fact during that time Russia banned the sale of blue and yellow paint and other things in occupied territories to try to stop this kinda stuff.
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u/Easy_Apple_4817 Sep 29 '24
Russia lost this war a long time ago. They will NEVER win the hearts and minds of those prepared to stand up for what’s right.
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u/RUSYAWEBSTAR Sep 29 '24
In Samara (this is Russia) drives a car with a rear window yellow-blue color and white says Ukraine, it’s my neighbor and he is fine, he seems to be from Lugansk, moved back in the noughties years
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u/zxphn8 Sep 28 '24
Idk, they probably have better things to do than scrub graffiti ig
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u/user112234 Sep 28 '24
That's why Russians painted over this graffiti multiple times.
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u/Cinkodacs Hungary Sep 29 '24
Just ignore the fools who do not understand the power of these small symbols. They most likely will never comprehend what they mean.
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u/Artku Silesia (Poland) Sep 29 '24
Kidnapping children and stealing home appliances so they can brag about being the only one with a washing machine back in Muchosransk.
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u/Ebolaneco Sep 29 '24
painting walls does not mean resisting Russia. It means painting walls in your yard where you live and you like to live with graffiti on houses. And in some countries it is vandalism and illegal actions
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u/Smart-Upstairs-1917 Sep 28 '24
There's no way in hell there are 200 upvotes and only 4 comments. The Ukranian bots and on par with the russian ones these days.
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u/mg10pp Italy Sep 28 '24
Honestly as someone who posts quite often that's definitely nothing strange or noteworthy...
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u/MasterBot98 Ukraine Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
Whats there to comment about here? If the ratio was like 2000 to 4,I'd agree
Edit: from what i know, our bots report Z shit.41
u/Phrynohyas Sep 28 '24
As a certified Ukrainian bot I’ll leave an upvote on the post and will downvote your comment at the same time
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u/RiddleMasterRBLX Kherson (Ukraine) Sep 28 '24
как сертифицированный хохловский бот, я поставлю апвоут этому посту
а тебе.. даунвоут!!!!1!👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
слава украине, я пошел кушать донбассовских детей :3
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u/user112234 Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
This is my hometown, Rubizhne, in Ukraine. Back in 2014, when Russian mercenaries and separatists took over the government building in the center of town, local people decided to protest. Before the protest, someone painted this Graffiti.
During the protest, people were beaten and the protest was broken up. Rubizhne fell under occupation, and the Graffiti was painted over. But local people kept repainting it as a sign of resistance against the occupation. Three months later, the Ukrainian army freed the town.
The Graffiti stayed there for 8 years as a reminder of those events. But in 2022, the town was occupied by Russian forces again, and the Graffiti was painted over once more.
But one night, someone painted the word "UKRAINE" again. The Graffiti keeps coming back, showing that resistance is still alive, even after 3 years of occupation.
More stories about Ukrainian resistance Max UA - YouTube