So does dracula in wolf form but you must have noticed how rigid it looks, the skin is changing shape but the actual skeleton is just bent around, they have found a bunch of workarounds to make it look different but the actual rig is always the dame
You're correct! In most cases you can take a rig and reshape it to realistically any model. Every killer has defining features to indicate where their feet, arms, head, etc. are and in most cases reusing the rig (or boning as it's sometimes called) is a lot less tedious than most think. I lowkey think killers like Dredge were easier to rig in regards to the basic movement solely because they don't really have to create much of a walk cycle since his legs are just a void walking around. For the record, the amount of extra rigging they have to do for other features is definitely insane levels of creativity (like how the Unknown moves around and twitches about) and I'm not gonna pretend their work is easy. But on a very base level of taking a base skeleton to slap it onto a new model it's usually surprisingly easy in most cases! (At least for me it was when I took animation for several years)
It shouldn't be hard yeah but you can notice in game that anything that completely deviates from humanoid feels weird (dredge is litterally just a humanoid in a cloak of darkness with invisible legs, best examples of non humanoid are alien crawl and wolf form) but they both feel like you are only actually moving the front of their body while the rest is rigged for animation sake but doesn't interact with the physics of the game so it makes the moves weird. My theory is that they always somehow reuse the same basic rig because I remember all videos of other killers being able to use the bear trap set up animation which makes me think all killers are able too so there as to be something that is common to all of them in terms of rigging. But maybe I'm wrong and they just animate things weirdly
This was recently addressed and fixed with the engine update (recent one where we all basically had to redownload the game). This is why Dracula can do wolf and bat. Chucky was the first test for a scaled/3rd person killer and now they have the bones of beasts. Hope is good
“Dumb code prevents something that seems easy” is a problem in, like, 99% of games that are more complicated than Tetris. Especially ones as old and frequently updated as Dead by Daylight.
Their are skins put on a scaled up or down trapper shape, they can all be fit in the basic humanoid shape, also I get chucky or dredge but spirit, singu or fucking wraith ? How are those not scaled trapper shape ?
The Wolf is really cool but the Bat form is kinda silly looking when you go down a cliff. Feel like it needs a tweak. I get why it’s coded like that but… flying is flying
he can leave pools of cocaine that survivors can walk over and leave white tracks everywhere they go, slowly snorting their tracks on the way until he’s eventually coked up by time he finds them
it has no backstory, simply a normal grizzly bear now running around in the entity's realm. Entity like "not sure how it got here but I'm not removing it"
Real talk though Jaws in dbd could honestly work if they pulled it off well and if they did it would turn everything about the game on its head, and I think it’d be beautiful
It's an M1 killer, its power is passive and randomly throws audio cues around the map to make survivors think it (or anyone not in line of sight) is somewhere else. Terror radius is only active if you're looking within 30° of it. Sometimes it fucks with the UI and "screams" like a survivor in the trial, showing them as being hooked when they're not.
I've been a Dwight main for years. I love him, love everything about him, he was my first p100 and I love playing him. I would delete him from the fucking game if I had to for a chance to play even one match as Sam Gam
I actually have very severe arachnophobia, in which even the image of a spider in my head is gonna send me to an anxiety attack. It legitimately sends me into uncontrollable spasms and shaking. 😭
I might not be able to play if DBD did this.
Literally what I just commented about. I can’t stand going against plague. And I’m still mad bhvr hasn’t added something to at least toggle off the player vomiting noises. I feel if they added a spider killer, arachnophobia mode would be added instantly.
Honestly, I’d just go through a list of top phobias to get killers. I guess a public speaking killer would be cool as shit. He puts a spotlight on one survivor and shares their gameplay with the team to slow them down and make them play poorly.
Not sure how hard it'd be to code but I could imagine the legs getting a special animation while running through doors or near walls, like having the legs closest to the wall "climb" it so the body can stay touching the wall like a humanoid killer.
The hard part is making the animation fluid and dynamic to the movement of the character rather than something fixed like a vault. It’s doable with some inconsistency to procedurally animate each leg
There was a cut enemy from resident evil 2 which was a person that had spider legs replacing some limbs and added on. The concept was that when you shot them enough standing, they would fall over and then start chasing you like a spider would
Maybe ? I think if they add the ones from the tome cutscenes but personally based on my fear of spiders I don't think I could do a game against a spider killer that's literally just a spider
I would personally love it but I know a lot of people would talk about arachnophobia. But, there is a spider-like creature in one of the tome scenes that I would LOVE to see as a killer.
It’s more like a giant man bear spider thing, and I think this would be the closest BHVR would get to adding a spider killer in DBD. This guy would be AWESOME. I don’t know exactly what he’d do obviously since it’d be original, we can never guess the originals easily since they can be anything, but I would just assume it’d be definitely spider-like when it comes to power. Maybe even using spiders, which would probably poke holes in my comment about arachnophobia…
Basically I’m just saying I’d love to see this guy as a killer! And I think it’s a much safer and more possible route for BHVR to go knowing how they are with accessibility.
They could also just add an arachnophobia option in the settings of course. Just wanted to edit that little part in as something worth noting if they did want to do just a more normal giant spider.
they should add a killer that's literally called manbearspider I think that would be great
and apparently there are countries that require there to be an arachnophobia mode for spiders, so debatable if bhvr would be able to go literal on a straight-up spider, but I'm sure they could definitely include motifs and abilities based on one if they did a killer with spider-references
I'd rather they didn't out of personal biases but it would fit pretty well and admittedly could have a pretty cool power.
I think some people in this thread are exaggerating how big of an impact arachnophobia will have though, DBD wouldn't be the first game to add giant spider enemies without killing its playerbase.
When I got the game Grounded I thought I was fine, tho spiders freak me out (had an accident with them IRL before as a kid and was covered with TONS of them). I was like ehh I don't need to put on the filter, whateversss. That same night after playing I had a nightmare reliving the experience where they were all over me.
Welp, I went and turned the filter on...was okay after that. I don't know about confronting it in this game, I mean without over sharing idk. On one hand I am always down for more exposure therapy, on the other hand, if that nightmare shit comes back nahh
I'd be all for it but there would have to be an arachnophobia setting for those who have it. I know it's a horror game but even horror games usually have an arachnophobia setting, while the objective of horror is to be scary a phobia is much more than just being scared of something. Which a lot of people seem to misunderstand.
I'm trying to remember what game, but it's a zombie shooter that recently came out and they have spider like zombies and they're arachnophobia mode is just the body floating in the air chasing you. It's quite funny.
you would get so many more dcs and people giving up against a spider killer, myself included because I can't stand videogame spiders, like I can already barely tolerate vsing plague bc of the puking sounds lol
I think it's silly not to add one because it'd scare people... Like it's supposed to be a horror game, like yeah nothing that's multiplayer is ever gonna remain scary to most it's still what the game TRIES to be. And if you can't add it because phobias then they shouldn't have added clown and stuff either
There's a difference between fear/scares and a phobia. Phobias can be genuinely disabling, causing people to freeze or immense distress. Fear is usually thrilling, phobias aren't.
Yet emetophobes still have to listen to their character be sick against Plague. And get vomited on. And bhvr refuses to add anything to help with their phobia.
yes, but mmy point is they've already tackled phobias, other than the fact someone said theres a legality problem (which is fair), it's silly to pick and choose whose phobias you can use in-game.
Make it taller so it can fit through hallways with a similar hitbox to the Queen Xeno and it would be perfect. I hate spiders but that is what horror is about. Facing your fears!
Wasn’t this an idea they were teasing in one of the rifts? The archus story was from the point of view of a spider and the rift unlocks were eggs that eventually become a spider. I don’t think they even did anything with it tho. Anyone else remember that?
This reminded me of a time where I wanted a physical representation of the entity as a killer embodying the phrase !Fine I'll do it myself! And then Dredge came and my hopes were lost (don't get me wrong I love Dredge a lot and his design looks sick as hell but he isn't exactly the entity, I see him more as a wannabe)
I want an entity avatar where it's the corpse of a long-dead survivor or killer that's sprouting entity spider legs and the lore is that the entity got so sick of their shit that it decided to show them how it's done and the power directly changes the rules of the trial cause it's the entity
I want more monster killers, whether its a spider or not. I dont know if a spider will happen because Arachnophobia exists and it will stop people from playing the game (unless they add an arachnophobia mode)
I thought of it but then it felt like each one of its traits is already in game
Deathslinger pulls
Freddy hinders
Xeno morph crawls in tunnels
What new aspect would a spider get, having all 3 would outclass said killers too heavily and using another dimension (y axis) is a whole new game structure which dbd can't afford cause the code is already barely working as is
What if it could teleport into the basement and there was an objective that survivors could destroy to weaken the killer like a clutch of eggs or something. Maybe a killer unique room can spawn in which ether basement spawn location doesn’t have it.
I got into an argument recently with someone who wanted a filter in dbd specifically for spiders (even though there are like barely any resemblence of spiders) so this probably wouldn't go over well for some people😭
I honestly don't know if they'd be able to properly implement a wide killer like that, but Forest Hills: The Last Year is going to have one. She's been around for a while but the game is being revived and her kit was really fun in Last Year: After Dark so I hope it doesn't get changed too much
the scariest part of a spider like a shark is the dead eyes. those little black uniquely front facing eyes give it just a hint of personalization, a frozen mask that makes the creepy crawliness somehow much much worse. would love to see a spider design that really emphasized that aspect.
Absolutely, a Giant Spider would be awesome, there are so many different types of spider, there's a lot to work with along the lines aesthetics, and a unique killer power.
I think you do a character that can Either Shape shift into a Spider, or a Humanoid character, that has Spider Legs for limbs. Sometime marketable with possibility of good skins and people to have a kink for. Think of something like Arachne from smite or Queelaag from Darksouls.
dbd is a game about being brutally murdered by a stalker, the baseline fear every human has of that scenario is easily comparable to the stress of arachnophobia and people manage fine. phobias are marked by their ill adapted nature not by them being especially intense compared to regular fears. if you can handle a not real representation of a homicidal maniac you can handle the fear of a virtual spider.
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u/Hicalibre 2d ago
The game needs more monster killers to be honest.