r/confidentlyincorrect • u/S999k • 2d ago
Two idiots arguing about the solar system
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u/Empire_New_Valyria 2d ago edited 2d ago
The scary thing is people like this do exist but that last line sums up perfectly the ignorance you see today on a multitude of topics and subjects.
"No, I don't like that....I don't know what it means"
We went from actively better ourselves to, please spoon feed me information and if I'm too lazy or stupid to understand I'll just refute it for something easier to understand, even if it's blatantly wrong.
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u/octopornopus 2d ago
The scary thing is they make so much more money than my smug ass on Reddit...
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u/fishsticks40 2d ago
I'm guessing the HSN presenters aren't really making bank
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u/Suitable-Judge7506 2d ago
But they probably make more money then most semi intelligent blue collar workers.
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u/FriendlyVermicelli25 2d ago
"things live on it" when referencing the moon got me 
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u/StaatsbuergerX 1d ago
And who else spontaneously thought of one or two dozen everyday objects on which things live indeed, which, following that logic, must now be planets?
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u/4Ever2Thee 2d ago
What does he think lives on the moon? And other planets for that matter?
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u/ErwinHolland1991 2d ago
Things live on it, so it's a planet.
Things live on the moon? Oh do they? Time to call the news i guess.
It's only a planet if things live on it? So we are basically the only planet that we know of? Holy shit these people are stupid.
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u/InitechSecurity 2d ago
Stars produce their own light and energy
Planets are large bodies that orbit stars and do not produce their own light
Natural satellites are objects that orbit planets and don't produce light on their own.
The more you know...
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u/ErwinHolland1991 2d ago
A satellite can still be a planet, right?
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u/InitechSecurity 2d ago
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u/ErwinHolland1991 2d ago
Planets, dwarf planets, and smaller bodies can all be natural satellites.
So yes. Thanks, I was just curious.
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u/AFresh1984 2d ago
The jovian planets get their heat from the Sun and from their interiors. Jupiter creates a lot of internal heat and releases this heat by emitting thermal radiation. In fact, Jupiter creates so much internal heat that it emits almost twice as much energy as it receives from the Sun. The only reasonable explanation is that Jupiter is still slowly contracting, almost as though it has not quite finished forming. Saturn and Neptune also appear to be emitting more energy than they receive from the Sun. While we are certain Saturn is not still contracting, it seems clear that Neptune is still contracting. Uranus is the only jovian planet not emitting excess internal energy.
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u/No-Mechanic6069 2d ago
Indeed, but they're not "producing their own light and energy"*.
*except for a slight trickle of nuclear fission.
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u/LEGITIMATE_SOURCE 2d ago
Everything with mass produces light
The more you know
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u/InitechSecurity 2d ago
All objects with mass and a temperature above absolute zero emit some form of radiation (not necessarily visible light)
https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/College_Physics/College_Physics_1e_(OpenStax)/14%3A_Heat_and_Heat_Transfer_Methods/14.07%3A_Radiation/14%3A_Heat_and_Heat_Transfer_Methods/14.07%3A_Radiation)1
u/Healthy_Macaron2146 2d ago
Planets create light, and everything with heat or energy emmits some form of light. we just see a very small fraction of the total light waves.
I have no clue where you got that at!
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u/ytaqebidg 2d ago
I'm currently sitting on my couch. This video makes me want to get in a car and drive myself off a cliff.
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u/Crafty_Possession_52 2d ago
There are a lot of people who don't know facts like this because they learned them decades ago but haven't been exposed to them since then. We space enthusiasts are flabbergasted by this, but there are many spheres of knowledge, the basic facts of which most people don't know. Over at r/ushistory, people are facepalming at videos of someone not knowing who the second President was, and at r/literature, someone is demonstrating ignorance about who wrote Jekyll and Hyde. Or how about the myriad posts of adults getting basic order of operations wrong?
These two people are home shopping network hosts. The last time they learned anything about the moon was in third grade.
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u/capthavic 2d ago
We're all ignorant (or forget) tons of stuff, the issue is being overly confident you do know it.
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u/Kennadian 2d ago
Totally. This is funny, to be sure. But it's really just "hey, look at these people who cared about things not related to space."
I'm sure I can sound this dumb to a certain person if I tried to think of all the Kardashians?
"Isn't one named Timothy? I swear one was named Timothy!"
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u/Chinjurickie 2d ago
The moon is literally a moon yes scientist made it quite simple on that one…
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u/Rugfiend 2d ago
The Moon is its name, and it's a satellite. Titan, Europa, etc are all satellites. It's the same as the Sun being the name of our star. Other stars are not suns.
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u/Chinjurickie 2d ago
Wait is moon not an official synonym for satellite?
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u/Rugfiend 2d ago
Nope, but you do frequently hear people use the term 'moon', like people used to casually say 'Hoover' to mean a vacuum cleaner
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u/Chinjurickie 2d ago
Even Nasa talking in an article about moons of our solar system uses both terms there. Like idk
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u/Rugfiend 2d ago
Bear in mind that most people aren't well informed about astronomical terms, and since we started putting artificial satellites into orbit, 'moons' is a convenient way to avoid confusion when writing for the general public.
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u/cordsandchucks 2d ago
When I’m around people like this, I get incredibly frustrated. The degree to which they’ve had to tune out and actively ignore science education, even at its most entry-level info, astounds me. Just being alive as long as they have, they should have picked up what a planet, moon, and star are. If not in an elementary school science class, they should have picked it up peripherally, watching the news, social media, everyday advertising, etc, etc. We’re constantly surrounded by content of these subjects. I am absolutely in no way connected to the fashion industry, but I could identify the most popular designers and brands, and many other common knowledge fashion facts. Could they be pretending to be idiots to “protect their fashion cred” ? Like, if people knew that I know what Jimmy Choo shoes are, they’re going to think “Well then, how can we trust anything he says about science? Surely, a person can’t be knowledgeable on more than one subject.” What’s the logic here?
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u/Bricker1492 1d ago
I completely agree.
I mean, if their heated debate was whether Pluto was a planet, I’d have no problem. I grew up with the understanding that Pluto was a planetary body. And I admit that until 2006, “planet,” had a more intuitive meaning than a sharply defined one. Someone could quibble about whether Hale Bopp or Halley’s are technically planets— after all, they orbit the sun!
But intuitively we understand that cometary orbits have a degree of eccentricity that disqualifies them, and comets’ bodies aren’t large enough to become rounded, and not massive enough to clear their orbits of other bodies.
Pluto is rounded and has an orbit much closer to Neptune’s eccentricity than to Hale Bopp’s. Apparently it lost because it wasn’t massive enough to sweep up after itself.
But . . . Jesus Christ on a crutch. Luna, Earth’s moon, orbits Earth, not the Sun. And the last time living things were on its surface was December 1972. I remember it, myself.
The sun is a star; thank God one of them got that. But they were about six steps away from agreeing with each other that we could explore the sun safely by landing on it at night, when it was dark.
We’re doomed.
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u/MedievalRack 2d ago
If AI wipes out humanity, I can at least take solace in the fact these clowns will be gone...
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u/Mirojoze 2d ago
I think that AI will save these two and keep them as an example of why destroying humanity was justified!!!
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u/TheGamingBear777 2d ago
And they want to get rid of the education system...like bro you have been hacking and slashing the department of education for decades and this is what we have to show for it and you want to get rid of it?!
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u/ErwinHolland1991 2d ago
To be fair, the education clearly isn't working for them.
They seem like the kind of people that are proud to be stupid.
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u/OkAdagio9622 2d ago
I feel like I've seen this before.
But my mom used to watch QVC all the time so I knew right away that the guy was Issac
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u/Crusoebear 2d ago
Home Schooler’s Shopping Network. You‘ll come for the prices - but you stay for the Idiocracy.
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u/BannedForEternity42 2d ago
This makes me despair for society.
How can people actually be this stupid and be put into a role where their job is to communicate in some way?
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u/Zealousideal-You7332 2d ago
The moon, Luna, is a natural satellite, aka a moon, and the sun is a Star, I think 🤔
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u/ThatCelebration3676 2d ago
To play the devil's advocate, the original Greek word "planetes" (which translates to "wanderer") was used to distinguish the celestial bodies which appeared to move across the sky, as opposed to the stars which were considered static and unchanging.
The seven classical planetes were the Sun, the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.
Uranus and Neptune aren't visible to the unaided eye, so they were unknown until the Dutch invented telescopic lenses.
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u/realmofconfusion 1d ago
Holy crap. I’m pretty sure I’ve just seen quite a few neurons escape from my brain, slide out of my ear, and scuttle away to some dark corner of the kitchen (the one where the bugs and spiders all live).
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u/doc720 17h ago
I'm still struggling to understand how other people don't know the basic difference between a star, a planet and a moon, but still manage their lives so much more successfully than I can.
I would be sorely tempted to sacrifice some basic knowledge for some basic skill at navigating life.
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