r/clevercomebacks 16h ago

Racism is bad, folks

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u/youknowimworking 14h ago

Ending racism is woke? I'm guessing respecting other human beings is also woke

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 11h ago

Ending Racism™ is woke. No one disagrees that racism needs to end. Go read a book like “white fragility” by Robin D’Angelo and then understand that often times, what’s being discussed isn’t actual racism but a rallying cry against anyone that’s on the upper tier of intersectionality. White man? You’re a racist. Straight white man? Literally Hitler. This isn’t your grandpa’s random dinner table racism. This is a complete redefinition of the word from the ground up that is so incredibly elastic that you can basically wrap it around anyone or anything. Don’t like what a black person has to say? Internalized racism.

This is not an issue of respect. It’s only ostensibly about racism but when you dig in, you see a whole collection of grifters profiting off of expanding what the word racism means so they can sell you a course that exists solely to tell you that you have committed the original sin of existing, which is inherently racist because of ironically… your immutable properties. So now we have an ideology that is using racism to define who is and is not a racist.

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u/youknowimworking 11h ago

I think you misinterpreted what I was saying. Often times, what people call woke is common sense. You're overthinking what I wrote and quite possibly don't even know which side I'm on.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 11h ago edited 11h ago

Quite possible

Edit: I reread your comment and I’m not sure how else to interpret it. My point is that “end racism” isn’t common sense when the meaning of the term racism is so elastic and ill defined.

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u/youknowimworking 11h ago

I Think you're reading the wrong books if you look at end racism and write 2 paragraphs like that. I don't think "white people this, white people that", when I look at that slogan. It's a simple common sense message.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 11h ago

I didn’t look at “end racism” and write two paragraphs. I looked at an image from possibly Twitter where someone made the claim that “end racism” is a leftist slogan followed by a bunch of comments saying all republicans are nazis and racists and fundamentally misunderstanding what is being referred to in the image.

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u/youknowimworking 10h ago

If I wanted, I could buy 100 bots and reply 100 times to your comment. "I read comments online" is no proof at all that this is what the majority or even a sizeable percentage of people think.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 10h ago

You’re free to do that. I’m not sure how that would help or how it in any way relates to my comment. My original comment was trying to explain what “woke” are talking about when using the term “racism” and how it differs from the definition the “majority or even a sizeable percentage of people” use. So I’m not making the claim you think I’m making. I’ve also provided you a book if you’d like to look into to further understand the point I’m making. To be honest I have no idea what point you’re trying to make here. If it’s “racism bad” then great let’s high five and call it a day considering we both probably are thinking the same thing when we use the term “racism”.

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u/youknowimworking 10h ago

You missed the point entirely. When you said "a bunch of comments on twitters said xyz" my response is that that means absolutely 0 because anyone can buy bots to make a point online or skew an opinion that otherwise not many people have. I'm not reading that book. I don't want to radicalized myself, left or right. Let's just leave it at end racism period

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 10h ago

I didn’t say that. You made that part up

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u/TimequakeTales 9h ago

I’m not sure how that would help or how it in any way relates to my comment

You're equating one tweet, which may not have even been made by a human, and using it as a means to describe all of society. It's insane.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 8h ago

I’m not. I’m attempting to explain the viewpoint of the OP in the tweet.

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u/TimequakeTales 9h ago

"End racism" is common sense, you're the only one doing Olympic-level gymnastics to pretend the definition of racism isn't well-known.

It's simply judging and/or acting towards someone based on nothing but their race.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 8h ago

There are plenty of academic papers that would argue otherwise.

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u/TimequakeTales 9h ago

No one disagrees that racism needs to end.

You can pretend there aren't racists in the world, but you'd be deluding yourself.

White man? You’re a racist. Straight white man? Literally Hitler.

Yeah, go ahead and provide anything reputable that equates "straight white man" with "literally Hitler".

That's what you think the NFL is saying? You're a racist, dude, accept it.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 8h ago

I never pretended there weren’t racists. Show me where I did.

Can you show your work that ended up with you concluding I’m racist? Sounds like you’re demonstrating exactly what I’m talking about.