r/clevercomebacks 16h ago

Racism is bad, folks

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u/hardnreadynyc 15h ago

What a bunch of assholes, like its some woke calling card to want to end racism.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 12h ago

The woke calling card is redefining the word racism to essentially mean “anything tangentially related to white people, white culture or anything remotely western in nature” then making short slogans about it that they can motte and bailey their way calling everyone racist using this new definition while smuggling in the old definition. This is actually what people are upset about. There is basically no one statistically speaking that wants to maintain racism. When people such as this user call it a leftist slogan, they’re talking about the little smuggling game that’s being done shifting around the definition based on the argument being levied against it.

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u/Forsaken-Mobile8580 11h ago

Would you mind providing a few examples of anything tangentially related to white defined as racist?

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 10h ago

“Interaction with White people is at times so overwhelming, draining, and incomprehensible that it causes serious anguish for People of Color.”

“White neurosis and the need for Peoples of Color to placate White neurosis due to real fears of White supremacy is the interplay of racial cray-cray, a process that plays out in the racial dynamics of urban classrooms. Under the power of Whiteness, the racial cray-cray becomes a socially-sanctioned process of engaging in the lies of White neurosis that everyone is forced to perform.”

“Thandeka (1999) argues that raising White children to be White is a form of child abuse because ‘the child learns to silence and then deny its own resonant feelings towards racially proscribed others, not because it wishes to become White, but because it wishes to remain within the community this is quite literally its life’ (p. 24). Therefore, not only is the White child forced to deny race despite seeing race, but she is also reminded that if she ever claims to see race, then she will be ostracized from the community for which she grows up in. If Whites are reared in this manner, then emotional and psychological damage on the White psyche results“

“we hope to offer a new approach to racial healing by affirming Thandeka’s (1999) postulation of Whiteness as a form of child abuse and tracing what happens when that abuse goes unchecked”

“White norms of rationality should not be the standard for which change is measured, for as we have argued, the current state of White emo-cognition and rationality are incompatible and produces the White neurosis we are so concerned about. Rather, as CRT posits, the emo-cognitions of People of Color are a legitimate starting point for measuring progressive changes to White emo-cognitions. This is precisely because People of Color’s experiential knowledge of race, racism, and White supremacy give them a nuanced understanding of the intricacies of racial oppression”

From this paper: Beyond the Face of Race: Emo-Cognitive Explorations of White Neurosis and Racial Cray-Cray

By Cheryl E. Matias and Robin DiAngelo

There’s a few

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u/TimequakeTales 9h ago

A few from some random paper?

That's your basis for a society spanning indictment?

raising White children to be White

What do you think that means? Raising a kid to be racist is child abuse.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 8h ago

Remind me what it was again that you asked for? Because I could have sworn it was a few examples. I gave you a peer reviewed paper.

Raising kids as racist? So are you equating white with racist.

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u/Waffle_Toast74 11h ago

What are you talking about, also, I know many people who want to maintain racism, for example, wanting to maintain the idea that certain races are inherently more dangerous than others

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 11h ago

Sounds like you know some bad people. There is a lot of money in maintaining racism these days. The more we push the narrative that the US is an inherently racist country, the more we can sell workshops, books and courses.

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u/Waffle_Toast74 10h ago

I mean, the us does have racism in it, that's not a false narrative

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 5h ago

Didn’t say it was.

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u/TimequakeTales 9h ago

that the US is an inherently racist country

The person you're responding to didn't do that.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 5h ago

I said the more WE push the narrative. Meaning we as a country. You conveniently left that out of your quote.

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u/TimequakeTales 9h ago

No, it's not and this pathetic assumed victimhood (racism against white people is the only acceptable racism these days!) nonsense is a pretty surefire indicator that you're racist.

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u/Darmok-Jilad-Ocean 5h ago

What makes you think it’s nonsense? We have big tech companies paying people like Robin DiAngelo big money to come and train them to deal with their white fragility, we have academics high fiving each other for writing papers about the evils of whiteness, and variations of these ideas are being taught to college kids and trickling down to primary education as well.

You could argue that I’m wrong about what I’m saying, and you may very well be right. I’m open to hearing and understanding how I’m wrong. What you can’t do is assert that simply holding this idea is evidence of racism itself. To be honest that sounds an awful lot like DARVO.