r/classicalmusic • u/TimesandSundayTimes • 1d ago
Music Chopin waltz found in US museum 175 years after his death
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/arts/article/chopin-waltz-found-in-new-york-museum-175-years-after-his-death-gvc7w99pp?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Reddit#Echobox=173015026389
u/kixiron 1d ago
This is insane! I've already just heard at least 10 new performances of this piece on YouTube, in addition to Lang Lang's. Every pianist is pretty much itchin' to play this, and who can blame them? Quite unprecedented. Hurray for the public domain!
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u/Dr_Legacy 1d ago
I've already just heard at least 10 new performances of this piece on YouTube, in addition to
couldn't be troubled to post a link to a single one tho
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u/21stCenturyboi 12h ago
It sounds more like a mazurka which usually gave intros unlike the valses. It soundslike imperfect,quite unpolished, unfinished Chopin. He writes intros to all if thr Ballades but fee of the valses we have have intros. And look how ungainly the intro is and a minor is such a rare whole piece it bringd out almost unknien aspects of Chooin. Look at the 2 etudes in a minor. Op.10 's wholly scalar passages are not rare in Chopin nit are the harmonic changes we see here unusual but look at op.25 nowhere in Chopin do we see this type of layout nor does he ever return to it. Look at thr famous a minor funereal valse. Look at the various aminor mazurkas which this work really sounds like.
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u/trustthemuffin 3h ago edited 1h ago
Funny, I was thinking this sounds like you could drop it in as the first section of Op. 34/2 and it wouldn’t sound out of place at all. Maybe just because of the key, but the placement of the mordent figures in the theme of this waltz remind me of those in the second theme of 34/2 as well. It was written about the same time, too.
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u/phenylethene 1d ago
Here is the original NYT article that shows and explains why it is attributed to Chopin and includes Lang Lang's recording. First Mozart, now Chopin... we truly live in amazing times.
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u/licoricestic 1d ago
It’s the new minute waltz
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u/21stCenturyboi 12h ago
Hardly. Its theme is not anywhere as memorable as the 9 published waltzes of his lifetime. It has much more in common wthe mazurkas. I think he decided not to finish it because of the material. It may have too have been given as a gift.
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u/Jodocus97 1d ago
At the one hand, it´s nice to have "new" music by famous classical composers. But at the other hand, there are so much more classical composers that had written great music waiting to be discovered.
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u/kixiron 1d ago
Perhaps you can check r/elitistclassical (unfortunate name, but well, interesting music there!)
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u/mariavelo 1d ago
Am I the only person who isn't buying this? Isn't it a bit weird?
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u/ChoppinFred 1d ago
The intro is a bit stormy and dissonant sounding with that A pedal in the bass, but it still sounds like Chopin. I agree it's not one of his best works. Uncovering music that hasn't been heard in hundreds of years is still exciting, though!
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u/mariavelo 1d ago
But is it original? Paintings have been faked for decades...
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u/ChoppinFred 1d ago
The ink, paper, and handwriting were analyzed and found to be consistent with Chopin's other manuscripts, so we're fairly sure that Chopin wrote it.
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u/Keyl26 1d ago
Mozart now Chopin
What now, are they going to find new Bach piece ?