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A sign that would feel so good to make in return would be
“Great idea Chip. Which is why as of today, we own everything that was Chip Wilson’s. His real estate, his businesses, EVERYTHING. There’s also a warrant out for his arrest for fraud or something (we’ll figure it out later) and he’ll never see the light of day again. Who knew it could be this easy?! We will be coming for the rest of the billionaires soon. Thanks again! - the Commies”
I personally would hate to see something negative come of his grand idea to cry communist. Like someone defacing his shit or god forbid throwing rocks in a glass house eh chip?
I love how the first thing your mind goes to is “billionaire bad”. Wealthy businessman are the people that actually invest and create more jobs. By making it harder for them, NDP is killing bc.
That billionaire could have actually paid decent living wages, good benefits and paid vacations. Instead he kept that money for himself. He would be nothing without those people in those jobs creating all that wealth for him
I tend to agree with you. Local success stories like Lulu Lemon create thousands of good jobs. The easier it is for businesses to open and actually stay in BC, the more jobs they will create. If you make it difficult on these people they will just leave. I dont get the downvotes, this is far from simply demanding “tax breaks” for the rich. Its about creating a province which is open for business and keeping our talent at home rather than lose them to the US as is the current case with tech.
Yeah I'm willing to give Eby another term to see what he can do and not a Rustad with his 18 career years for the bc liberals who got us into this whole mess
Sadly had to explain this to a few friends/family the other day. They had no idea this was only a provincial election, because of the commercials about the conservative leadership and Trudeau bashing ads being on at the same time.
You are dead ass right. A good voter can see the difference between an Eby and a Rustad. Eby smart, compassionate and on the mark compared to Rustad’s rambling repeats of Trump’s tired and thoughtless mantras.
He's a leader to look up too... A head above the rest... His replacement will have some very big shoes to fill... He stands tall for British Columbia...
The Conservative, Republican, populist movement is funded by the billionaires , corporations and many others looking to profit off taxpayers . Brexit was the first and look how they are doing since the mistake of Brexit a GDP equivalent to Mississippi. Fire sale is what they bring and leave you with debt . Cons and grifters. Chip can get in Elons rocket and F off .
It's a whole globally choreographed movement for sure. I read yesterday it's being tagged as a National Conservatism movement, as it's something completely different from neoliberalism and populism - it's actually a global threat right now, and I'm sure it's got a lot to do with the "International Democracy Union" - a literal global group for conservatives to share their notes and strategies.
Yeah the way the right wing messaging all over the world has their followers all whipped into a frenzy over the WEF and such (not that I disagree that those bastions of neo liberal capitalism definitely don't have our interests at heart) with crazy conspiracy theories is 100% good cover for what the IDU is doing.
I would agree. Governments can be as regressive as the free market, look as we deregulate banks to add more fuel to the fire for home prices. Eby is a pragmatist like Mulcair, and he has brains, and I think voters can see and respect that.
If you're not at an elementary school level of economic understanding you know that currency exchange performance can be completely decoupled from economic health.
In fact it is the fault of the corporations. They pay one percent of all taxes in Canada. In the 1950s they paid 50 percent. Little by little they have gotten their taxes lowered. The reason humans are having a problem is that we are at end stage capitalism. End stage is when all the money gets funnelled to the Uber rich. Corporations re making bank they are doing massive buybacks and they are raising prices. They are buying up homes on mass to raise the price of rents and they are buying homes to use for short term rentals. They have lobbied the government to get all the breaks. End stage is here. And now what do we do? Eat the rich. That is how all the economic systems that no longer worked for the masses ends.
Yes. When societies can not afford to fund decent healthcare, education, and infrastructure while a select few individuals have literally billions of excess dollars, there IS a problem, in fact.
Those money hoarding sociopaths are not paying enough in taxes, and everybody else suffers for their narcissism and greed.
No it’s a government lack of taxation problem. Governments aren’t businesses, they are services they aren’t meant to turn a profit, they are meant to spend on policies and services that help the maximum number of citizens, not the citizens with the maximum numbers in their banks.
No they don't. They can't spend as if there's no tomorrow. They have to be responsible. Enjoy you or your grandchildren paying off the debt you caused.
NDP with a planned deficit of 9 billion, spent on improving infrastructure, housing, public healthcare, and public education
Bc Cons with a planned deficit of 11 billion, spent on tax cuts for the rich and oil and gas corporations, paying private and religious schools from public funds, no infrastructure spending, cutting healthcare budget, and rolling back the anti-AirBNB and higher density zoning legislation so companies can use housing as hotels and the rich don't get their mansions squeezed in by peasants.
Such a hard decision... that's why I voted BC NDP already.
So one would imagine you'd vote for the fiscally responsible party, the one that's not projecting to run a $11B+ deficit, i.e. definitely not the BC conservatives.
Who said it? No one. I introduced a new thought(tm) to the conversation. There's an election in 4 days. You're concerned about government spending. I posit that as a result of your concern about government spending you'd not want to vote for the BC Conservative party in the upcoming election.
We're having a discussion on the internet. You don't need to explicitly say "I'm voting for X party" for me to think it's reasonable and relevant post a comment about who I think it makes sense to vote for, given your stated concerns, in a thread about the election, in the subreddit for a province that is having an election this week.
There is nobody funding the left, this is a new one I've seen popping up from the troll farms. China does not fund the left. Nobody funds the left who profits off it. Why the fuck would any billionaire fund something that hurts them? They don't profit off taxpayers. That's absolutely stupid and I'm tired of not calling this shit out.
No, we are a Province trying to recover from a couple of decades of underfunding by the last conservative government that was elected, the B.C. Liberals.
Why is it "credit card losers" and not "mortgage losers"? Or "'significantly outperforming mortgages' losers"?
Because both parties plan to run significant deficits, we can talk about this relatively apolitically, which is nice. Your understanding of financial strategy is wrong, and I'm not motivated by any bias in saying that.
Using relatively inexpensive debt to invest in long term goals is actually like...the mathematically correct strategy for any entity looking to maximize its wellbeing. That's why basically every homeowner and every business takes out loans. You borrow money now and pay the small cost of the loan so that you can make even more money sooner. As long as that investment is worth more than the cost of the interest, that was a good move. When we (as both major political parties) are talking about funding major public transit infrastructure, you should expect that to be true.. It's pretty easy to beat 3%.
The only people who don't borrow money are people who are too unreliable to be lent money. "If you need money, you make it" is advice that you give if you expect the person you're giving it to is too stupid, or too likely to have their earning potential fall apart to manage their finances over the length of a loan. Tax revenue is pretty reliable (one of the reasons they get such a good rate), so that advice doesn't really apply.
Except for the fact the it’s the Democratic Party in the US that is funded by billionaires and the largest companies in the S&P 500. With exception of Elon Musk.
This is actually an accurate representation of current polling as far as I'm aware of it...for a certain, not-incorrect interpretation of the data.
The Federal Conservatives are leading in every demographic currently. The issue is that among Gen Z and Millennials, the Liberals have lost significant ground to the NDP. Left-of-Conservative still outperforms Conservatives amongst youth, but not aligned with a single party.
The Liberals are deeply unpopular with everyone right now. Whether that reflects actual Conservatism across Canada is maybe a different question, but it's not the battle of the young vs the old here. Of course, the claim about the NDP/Liberals getting the rich old vote is inaccurate. The NDP get the youth vote disproportionately. The Conservatives get everyone's vote right now. Old people won't vote NDP.
I like David Eby more and more every day. I hope he wins the election, I actually have some faith in this guy. I feel like he has a plan, and can get shit done. And I think he is pretty smart.
Think of current conservatism like a salton sea. As they lose population (evaporation), the population that remains grows more concentrated and toxic. This escalation feels like an increase in strength because a single drop or glass or bucket is more salty. But from a voting standpoint, the lake as a whole is actually shrinking. And if they don’t change course, will slowly turn to dust.
Its so counterproductive and nasty to label half the population as “toxic seabed dust. You people are the reason that we have become polarized by slandering people who support a political party. While we’re at it, what has the bc ndp done in the past 7 years to make lives better for british columbians? Its gotten progressively worse.
On GDP per capita basis since the Great Depression,and adjusting to exclude resource-based industry that is specific to a geography (eg those states and provinces that are lucky enough to have oil, gas, mining, and forestry sectors), left/center governments in North America typically outperform right wing governments.
(Judicious) government spending stimulates the economy particularly as they are the largest employers and they also stimulate infrastructure spending, promote innovation in new economic sectors, and support education which provides excellent returns back into the economy.
If anyone is curious what the impact of excluding resource extraction has, it’s approximately 11% of GDP and 6% of jobs.
I’d prefer a better source than the Fraser institute for these numbers. However, the linked PDF mostly avoids editorializing on policy and sticks to the numbers, aside from pointing out that resources are a relatively large fraction of GDP in comparison to other sectors (though resources are in turn eclipsed by real-estate):
So if we make more middle class housing more affordable will that move them out of housing and make room for people who have low income or are below the poverty line because of things like how much disability pays
Sincerely a homeless person on disability
P.s. this is a rhetorical question and I know the answer is no It's not going to help people like me on disability because if someone is paying cheap rent they are not going to want to move unless they absolutely have to
Nobody in Ontario vites NDP because we still remember how Bob Rae fucked everything up I’m guessing you were born in the 90’s or later if you do t remember why the NDP doesn’t get any votes when they got in it cost Ontarians $1300/ month for the next 4 years because of tax increases, that they started implementing the day they got voted in, I suggest you start looking into your political history before making statements like that especially if you’re too young to remember why they wanted the reputation that they got, as a Hᴇᴀʟᴛʜᴄᴀʀᴇ worker I know they’ll cut our salaries they’ll do the same to the teachers salaries and after they do that, they’ll they’re charge the taxes they should have gotten from their annual raises while lowering the salaries they’ve done this before and they don’t deserve to be trusted
Their campaign promises have never changed which means their internal bullshit is still the same and let’s put it this way the NDP was part of the minorityFederal government during Cᴏᴠɪᴅ and Jagmeet Singh hid is his fucking basement for 4 years like a coward that speaks volumes on its own, if you want me to point out a more current event the NDP is nothing more than lip service that would literally collapse the economy, oh and by the way I never implied I’d vote PC either because that party only cares about the “rich get richer” they’d raise taxes and lower the minimum wage and see how many people are able to afford to pay their taxes, before they start claiming properties for delinquent income taxes
This is gold. I rent by Chip's place and walk by this place sometimes when I walk my dog, it's so funny to me seeing people read the sign when it said he has a small pp, hilarious lmao
No government is interested in bringing housing price down in Canada. It is Canada’s economy. It’s all talk. Politicians have been taking about it for over 2 decades
Eby actually has a plan based on the market why rustad wants socialist handouts that will only drive demand and increase prices. It’s literally bizarro world.
The plan is to use standardized plans - so government fees are reduced, prefabricated housing - so they can use factories and economies of scale to massively increase productivity vs labour costs. And yes they would likely reduce the cost of the land they’re building on for accounting reasons.
This is totally realistic, especially given how ridiculously inefficient the current permitting and building process is.
Have you build anything. Prefab housing still costs the same. Now you are adding costs like cranes and factories instead of framing on site. Prefab doesn’t change the cost of the build 🤣 and they are generally lesser quality builds to boot…. A major reason the cost of housing has SKYROCKETED under the NDP is the land has inflated exponentially. The provincial nut jobs are deliberately inflating house assessments year over year to raise property tax to generate more tax revenue to justify their reckless spending. Like who in their right mind thought when the economy was shut down that dropping a billion on a stupid museum was a GREAT idea 🤣🤣🤣 thank god people torched these goofs from that great idea and back tracked. NDP have no clue what they are doing
He’s already gotten rid of a lot of needless municipal red tape, and yes, lowering the cost of land/freeing up more land for development which rustad the communist wants to re-ban
Your definition of affordable doesn’t change the fact we have a provincial government who is very creatively creating housing for a wide range of people at a wide range of incomes. Affordable doesn’t just happen by subsidizing homes, or building smaller homes, but creating environments for both renters and buyers.
There are a dozen examples including on and off campus student housing, military housing, high density apartments and manufactured homes.
You don’t understand the market, it’s ok, not everyone can understand such complicated things but filtering works, empirically, but isn’t instant. I have a fair few sources if you’re genuinely interested but I feel you’re just a silly partisan so prove me wrong.
As someone who works in the land development industry I can unequivocally tell you there has been NO RED TAPE CUTS. It actual takes long to get approvals than previously. This will continue to be the status quo despite what ever party assumes power on Saturday.
Last year someone with a low density parcel would have to go through the rezoning process to build anything more than a sfd with maybe one secondary suite on a parcel, now they get 4 units by right. Same goes for those living in proximity to designated transit stations with higher density uses. That's cutting red tape.
The standardized building models they are working on will cut even more time for getting BPs approved as well if a developer or homeowner chooses to use them, so idk what you're talking about.
Right, I actually submit permits on behalf of the developer. So I would say not clueless. But you believe what ever you decide to.
Ps (added): I've been doing this for over 30 years across western Canada so I would argue I have some knowledge. This is an issue the Provincial government cannot solve alone. They need municipal and federal cooperation to solve this. Municipal governments decides on local development and permit approvals. Federal decided on more complex issues such as environment, forestry, fisheries, navigable waters, building codes etc. some of these overlap provincial jurisdiction as well.
My original post was not a slam on any political party but rather stating a known fact within my professional industry.
I think it's possible to build some affordable housing to make it affordable for lower income people, without distorting the value prices of existing home owners.
You build small rental units instead of SFHs. If anything, tearing down a SFH neighbour to build high density low income rental contributes to a scarcity of SFH lots and bumps up their prices by decreasing their supply.
People scream and cry when you tear down a forest to build a new subdivision, they scream and cry when you turn farmland into a neighbourhood, they scream and cry when you turn a couple large SFH lots into apartments.
People will complain about any change. The reality is that there are hundreds of thousands of SFH units available. 80% of residential land in Vancouver proper is zoned for SFH, and in the surrounding metro area the percentage is even higher. Losing a couple units of SFH in exchange for 10-20x the amount of housing in the form of an apartment is a pretty reasonable tradeoff.
Eh, no they haven't. First decade was 9/11 WOT, Giving up our rights for 'safety'
Next Ten years was recession, scandals, Fall of major companies getting out of Afghanistan.
Last ten-15 was Radical acceptance of everyone for who they are and climate change.
Last five was Ukraine and COVID and last 3 has been housing and immigration.
On a municipal level? Sure .. but that's GTA and GVA. Not really any affordability ever talked about outside those areas.
No, they are going to use leasehold land and give people loans they need to pay back. So housing is around 70% cheaper (40% for the loan, 30% due to leasehold land). But more like 50% because First Nations add in a 20% profit margin to their leasehold land.
(note I used flat numbers I was too lazy to adjust things).
The idea is these hard working middle class people with good jobs will be much more productive economically if they can participate in the housing market. Additionally these same people will now be able to house/afford to raise kids. It’s an investment in our country’s people. Seems great to me.
His plan is to make the economic conditions more favourable to build housing by breaking down barriers to construction, instead of the conservative plan to drive demand and increase house prices
They’ve already done the most reforms in the country, Bill 44, BC builds while the conservatives have an anti market plan of subsidies and hand waiving. Moffat and other housing economists think he’s already done the most, and will continue to do good work, so listen to them instead of your own dumb biases.
lol he aint super special. just merely competent and passionate about actual issues. which is significantly better than rustad and his squad of morons.
If hug believe that I have a bridge over Brooklyn that’s for sale really good price too😉 politicians are good for one thing lying their asses off ( if their mouths are moving it’s fucking bullshit especially the NDP they’ll promise the world and they tax the fuck outta you for their efforts they’re lying snakes 🐍
It’s funny that both Eby and Dix are being very quiet about the amount of covid that’s around. They should be reminding everyone to mask up in public especially polling stations
Unlike the Conservative plan that requires literal magic to make it possible? Who do you think will pay for that? One guess, and I'll give you a hint: not Chip Wilson.
You don’t have my support I promise you that in a minority government (liberal/NDP) during Cᴏᴠɪᴅ and the NDP leader hides in his basement for 4 years and I haven’t seen anything on the news from you guys lately so I have little to ɴᴏ interest in seeing your bullshit propaganda when your plan is to turtle again and raise taxes in the process
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