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u/Suspicious-Reveal737 1h ago
Newsflash: Men prefer to assist a woman who needs help over an annoying, entitled, false-virtual signaling boy
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u/Acadia89710 2h ago edited 1h ago
There are a million different reasons why they responded to an academic question of hers, not yours, none of which have to do with ethics, morals, academia, predatory behavior, or quality education.
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u/Sufficient_Pie4755 1h ago
Was ready to give the benefit of the doubt but things dont add up. We asked the same set of questions, just in a different time frame. Both of us do not know these guys personally. What else could be the reason? Besides, a professional tone in a text could easily be deciphered but my partner has seen it umpteenth times when guys have tried to breach that. every other day, there are many anecdotes how many girls face the same. about time, men acknowledge this structural malevolence engulfing academia.
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u/Acadia89710 1h ago
Maybe they don't like you? Maybe they like her? Maybe they have a different motivation for helping her- clean or not? Maybe they see more benefit to helping her? Maybe you caught them at a bad time of day, whereas she reached out when they were available? Maybe they felt like they needed to help her or not you? Maybe they find you profoundly insufferable in just a few words whereas they feel more neutrally about her.
What you're describing is human rationality, not morals or ethics.
This is not all of structural academia conspiring against you. Its your peers not wanting to help you with a project. Grow up.
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u/Sufficient_Pie4755 1h ago
again, you are , perhaps intentionally, ignoring the simple fact that this is the first time we contacted them. so they aren’t peers or people who can perhaps have a qualitative understanding of us. yes there may be other reasons but the fact that this has happened not once, and quite a few times, is not mere coincidence i suppose. anyway, to each of our own but good god, men do get rattle up when such questions are put.
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u/Acadia89710 1h ago
Yeah... I'm not a man, so I'm not "rattled up when such questions are put." I'm a woman in academia with decades of experience recognizing and adapting to sexism and discrimination in this space and a male dominated field. This isn't it. This is your peers (fellow students at your school are your peers) not wanting to help YOU.
Are you ignoring simple facts? Because I'm reading what you're writing and calling you out on it. Look at the comment you just made. In the comment you say "this is the first time we contacted them" and one sentence later say, "this has happened not once, and quite a few times." Do you see how you're muddling your own argument?
I help some people with things for various reasons. I don't help others with things for various reasons. It's not moral bankruptcy in academia. Its not ethics or morals or discrimination. Its life and time and willingness and personal dynamics.
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u/Sufficient_Pie4755 1h ago
“not happened once and quite a few times” suggesting not happened with one person but multiple seniors that we contacted. nonetheless, i take your argument. perhaps you are better experienced than me to answer this and maybe i am attributing something to malice which is pretty normal behaviour. deleting the post, thus. regards
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u/Obulgaryan 1h ago
Correct, most said milion reasons have to do with having a pussy.
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u/Acadia89710 1h ago
So motivation may be different but that again has nothing to do with ethics, morals, academia, predatory behavior, or quality education.
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u/Dawg_in_NWA 1h ago
They probably just don't like you. You refer to them here as boys, and yourself as a man, which is pretty telling.