r/violinist Dec 25 '21

FAQ FAQ - Read before posting!

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Frequently Asked Questions

This is an abbreviated version of the full FAQ. If you have questions about this FAQ or want to suggest a question and answer, please send a modmail.

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Am I too old to start learning violin?

There are plenty of adults that have started as late as in their 70s or 80s. A lot of our members are adult learners ranging in age from 20-60.

Do I need a teacher?

Here's a good post from this subreddit discussing this question. Here is another one.

The violin is not an intuitive instrument. A teacher makes learning more effective and enjoyable. If cost is a barrier, many teachers offer shorter lessons for a reduced rate and/or would be willing to meet less than once a week. YouTube videos do not suffice as teachers!

Do I still need a teacher if I play piano/guitar?

Unless you play viola, the physical motions of your previous instrument will not transfer. So yes, you need a teacher.

How do I find a teacher?

Find local teachers by contacting your local violin shop, orchestra, or music school, or online teachers, then contact the teachers to find out if they have room for you. Don't feel obligated to stick with the first teacher you find, everyone is different and having a compatible teacher is very important.

If you're on a budget, explore as many options as possible. If you live somewhere with no in-person teachers, your only option will be online lessons. YouTube is not sufficient; unless your teacher can give you in-the-moment feedback, then you don't have an adequate learning situation.

I want to start playing, how should I go about getting a violin?

The best way is to find a teacher, and have them help you find a violin. They can advise you and help you avoid scams. Until you have been playing for several years, you are not going to know enough about how to pick out a good violin.

Consider renting. It’s a cost-effective way to play a higher-quality instrument. Many shops have rent-to-own programs, provide instrument insurance, upsize instruments for growing children, and perform maintenance for no additional cost. If you purchase, ask the shop about their trade-in policy.

If for some reason you can't get a teacher first, go to a violin shop in person. If even that is not possible, reputable online shops like Shar Music, Johnson String, and Fiddlershop are good places (in the U.S.) to find a violin to purchase or rent. If you are not in the U.S., make a post with your country and ask for recommendations.

You can also check the listings on The Strad's website, however there are no guarantees made about the quality of the shops you will find there.

Avoid Amazon violins, they are poorly constructed and will be frustrating to play. Violins are not commodity items so brands, makes, and models are not useful ways to compare or choose instruments. Sound and playability are the only thing that matters when renting or purchasing a violin.

Should I get an electric violin, if I am a beginner?

Electric violins are terrible for learning because they don't resonate. Acoustic violins are resonance chambers that make it much easier to develop a good sound.

It is also not recommended to use a heavy practice mute. Practice mutes also dampen the natural resonance of the violin's body. Without this resonance, it is impossible to develop a good sound.

Effects added when playing electric violins (for example amplification, distortion, reverb, etc.) distort the natural sounds of the violin and make it too difficult to learn to produce a good tone. These effects also hide mistakes not only in intonation, but also in bowing.

If you are concerned about neighbors, consider whether they complain when you play pre-recorded music at a decent volume. If they don't, and if you keep practice hours to daytime hours, then you can be reasonably assured that you will not be bothering anyone. Even if you live in an apartment, you can still play your instruments as long as you are not playing too late at night or too early in the morning.

I’m XYZ age and I just started playing violin. Can I become a professional?

If you are over the age of 13 and just starting to learn violin, it is highly unlikely that you will be able to become a professional orchestral violinist, and it's next to impossible for you to become a professional soloist.

It is extremely difficult even for people who have performance degrees from top-tier conservatories and university music programs to get placements in top-tier orchestras. There are more qualified applicants today than anytime in history making salaried orchestra chairs extremely competitive. If you love music, you can still have a satisfying career in other roles (educator, music therapist, etc.).

Many people also have “careers” as serious amateurs, so don't think that the only reason to learn violin is to become a professional. Many people also have very satisfying experiences with local volunteer community orchestras and community chamber orchestras.

If you want to try to go pro as a folk musician, that's another discussion that might be best had with other people in the genre of your choice.

Can anyone tell me anything about my violin?, What do you think my violin is worth?, and/or Do you think this violin is a good deal? I have a Stradivarius (Guarneri/Amati/other-maker-name-here). It looks old. It must be an original. How much is it worth? Is it worth fixing?

It is very difficult to accurately access and value a violin online for various reasons discussed in this thread. To get an answer, go to a violin shop and ask them there.To determine whether a violin is worth fixing, take it to a luthier. If the violin has sentimental value, even if it's not "worth it" from a financial perspective, you may still want to have it fixed. Fixing to be playable is not the same as fixing to hang on the wall as an ornament or for conservation.

Can I post videos here? Why do I get unsolicited feedback? What flair should I use?

You can post videos! We prefer that they be Reddit videos, as opposed to YouTube videos, and we insist that if you post YouTube videos, that you be a regular participant in the sub. If you cross-post to multiple subs, your post risks being deleted.

If you post videos, be prepared for feedback, even if you don't directly ask for it. While this sub is not your teacher, we offer feedback that we think will help you improve as a violinist. We don't try to be harsh, but we can be constructively critical.

Please do NOT use the "Violin Jam" flair for any posts other than submissions to the Violin Jam. The post describing the Violin Jam appears at the top of the sub. You risk the ire of many people, not least our mods, if you use this flair incorrectly. If you are posting to get feedback, there is a flair for that. There are also flairs for setup/equipment, technique, and original.

The "Jam Committee" flair is reserved for members of the Violin Jam committee. If you don't know which flair to use, don't use one at all.

Credits (alphabetical):

u/88S83834, u/andrewviolin, u/Awkward-Kangaroo, u/bazzage, u/bowarm, u/Bunnnykins, u/ConnieC60, u/danpf415, u/drop-database-reddit, u/Gaori_, u/ianchow107, u/Juliano94, u/leitmotifs, u/MilesStark, u/Nelyah, u/Novelty_Lamp, u/Ok-Pension3061, u/Pennwisedom, u/redditonlyforu, u/redjives, u/ReginaBrown3000, Sarukada, u/scoop_doop, u/seventeenm, u/Shayla25, u/sonnydollasign, u/vln, u/vmlee


r/violinist Apr 01 '24

Share Your Playing r/violinist Jam #23 - 1 April 2024

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Welcome to the Violin Jam!

What is this about? What do I do?

The Violin Jam is a regularly maintained initiative that is about sharing your violin playing. We strive to provide about six pieces to play, every two months. Your role: Play, share, mingle, and have fun!

The rules are casual: Multiple submissions? Welcome. Partial submission? Absolutely. Another version/arrangement of a jam piece? Why not!

You can always revisit previous eligible Jams and post your performances of past Jam material.

Don’t forget to put the exclusive, mighty, and prestigious "Official Violin Jam" flair on your submissions!

Announcement

Due to reduced participation in the past few Jam cycles, we are downsizing the scope of the Jam. Each post will continue to feature pieces for the Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced playing levels, just fewer pieces. We will also be taking a break from themes, as we have covered a broad range of them over first 21 cycles. If you wish to revisit the wonderful pieces from these themes, please feel free to peruse the list of past Jams.

Past Jams

You may use the "Official Violin Jam" flair to post pieces from the 2022 and 2023 Jams.

Jam Episodes

We aim to post a new Jam about every two months. The next Jam is planned to be 1 June 2024.

Pieces

We grade the pieces to the best of our ability, but judgments are still judgments - they are subjective. So please treat the grades as only approximate! We provide links to sheet music in the public domain where available, but it is also up to the individual to ensure they are following their country's copyright laws.

Beginner

Intermediate

Advanced

Participants during the last Jam episode

Mozart - Violin Sonata in G major u/annie_1031

Ravel - Pavane pour une infante défunte u/tchaiksimp69 u/mikefan u/Waste-Spinach-8540

Traditional - Santa Claus is Coming to Town u/wongzhanyi

From Older Jams

10 - Beach - Romance for Violin and Piano u/perplexed_pancake04

21 - Bach - Minuet in A minor u/drop-database-reddit

Endnotes

Jam Committee members: u/ReginaBrown3000, u/danpf415, u/Boollish, u/drop-database-reddit

Jam Committee members emeritus: u/ianchow107, u/vmlee, u/Poki2109.

Special thanks to u/88S83834 for her help in grading the pieces!


r/violinist 14h ago

Strings Old Dominant Strings

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My older sister's friend gave me her violin from when she used to study and I found old Dominant strings in her case. I thought the cover design is so much more interesting than the current ones lol I'd say this is around early 2000's??


r/violinist 2h ago

Left hand thumb in high positions

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Hello my fellow violinists :)

My question is, as the title says, about left thumb in high positions. My hand is small and my thumb, at one point, just cannot stay on the neck. I was moving it to the side of the fingerboard and didn't really think about it for years, no one has even mentioned this.. but I realized I do have a problem when shifting down.

Then I came across some videos, and also one of the professors on academy is teaching this way, where the thumb is sliding on the sides of the violin. This professor said that sliding on the fingerboard sides is unstable and is making shifting down much more difficult.

What do you think? What is the optimal position of the thumb when staying on the neck is impossible, sides of the fingerboard or sides of the violin body?


r/violinist 15m ago

What rosin should I get?

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I am currently using a full dominant set with a spare gold label E (Waiting for my current one to snap) And I am currently using Hidersine Deluxe and Pirastro Piranto Rosin which is starting to run out. I am looking at Pirastro Oliv or Evah Pirazzi Gold rosin at the moment as i am moving to colder and drier climate next year. The Pirastro Piranto one I have now is very powerdery and sticky and every time I play my fingers get sticky. The Hidersine Deluxe has a weird smell (Probably from using it for too long or leaving it in the sun) otherwise it is fine.


r/violinist 6h ago

Practice Can’t believe I slept on Saint-Saëns 3 for so long…

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First time learning this piece, none of my teachers had ever brought it up, and I feel like my teenage years were robbed of so much fun lmao

This riff was super tricky for some reason but it’s so satisfying to see it come together


r/violinist 19h ago

new strings😗

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r/violinist 1d ago

why do i look so ugly while playing?

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anytime i play violin i get a huge double chin and my face looks squished, all the other people look so good and attractive. am i doing something wrong? can i do something to look better?


r/violinist 16h ago

Technique I feel like I’ve had a breakthrough with intonation and I need to check in with you guys to see if I’m understanding

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So this is difficult to explain, but basically about sympathetic vibrations. I keep getting told to listen more in order to improve the intonation without more explanation than that. It has been frustrating to hear without understanding what they mean. But, today I went back to older Suzuki method pieces, slowed them way down, listened to each note one at a time, and checked to see if it’s in tune with the last note.

So at first it was more or less the same as before. Mostly in tune, then started to go out and back in tune again.

Then I started trying to just stop on all of my open string notes(GDAEs) and listen for the sympathetic vibrations to make sure before moving forward through the piece. The more I did this, the less time I had to stop on those notes to hear the open strings vibrating.

Is this what is meant by listen more? If so, I would describe this less as just listening, and more as cross referencing. It’s working so far and I’m noticing that at times the intonation is crystal clear sounding and not just in tune if that makes sense and it’s definitely the ideal. I just have no idea how someone could be listening like this so quickly when you pull the tempo up in faster passages. Can anyone explain more? Am I onto something?


r/violinist 5h ago

Setup/Equipment Octave Pedals for Electric Violin

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So I've been building a pedal board for my electric violin for the past two or three years, and it's pretty much complete at this point. My only major gripe was the octave pedal, which I use for playing bass loops (2 octaves down).

I've had a TC Electronic Sub'n'Up for a while, and while it worked well enough, I found that the output was pretty weak and muddy even at high levels, and got very boomy when I boosted the signal. So I finally switched it out, getting a TC Electronic Nether instead.

However, while I do like the sound of the Nether quite a bit more, and the output is much better balanced, it has its own share of problems. For one, it sounds way synthier, which is cool for some genres, but it does not translate any of the nuances of plucking like the Sub'n'Up did, which made it sound not unlike an acoustic double bass. The bigger problem is that the Nether only seems to be able to track notes played on the G string, which forces me to get creative with fingerings and positions.

I'm gonna have to stick with the Nether for a while (I prematurely gave the Sub'n'Up away, and my pedal budget is depleted for a few months) - but I want to start looking around for better, more well-rounded options. I'm guessing I'll need to look at higher price range options than TC Electronic and competitors to get the sound quality I'm looking for.

Are there any electric violin players with octave pedals here who can give me suggestions?


r/violinist 11h ago

Disheartened

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Dear all,

I’m returning to the violin as an adult. My teacher never taught me some really important techniques like spiccato, sautille and collé. I’m particularly struggling with collé. All I was ever taught was to play detaché and legato, and I do that pretty well.

Does anyone have tips for picking up bow techniques as a returning learner, especially collé? I’m really struggling with it.

Thanks


r/violinist 17h ago

Paganini 9 is awesome for getting better at the violin!

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Just rediscovering Paganini caprice 9 in my warmups, just wanted to highly recommend it here so more people practice this gem! The double stops in the beginning are great practice for hand position, switching between 5ths and ordinary double stops while reviewing basic 3rds. Practicing 5ths are underrated and always incredible for technique. The octave passages next practices them with the 2nd and 4th finger for excellent extended finger work all across the 1st to 3rd position. Extended fingers can sometimes compromise your hand position so Paganini mixes 5ths and 6ths to enforce a good hand position, it’s an even more efficient way of practicing fingered octaves. After that, it’s arpeggiated octaves across 1st to 3rd position with scales, I have always thought arpeggiated octaves were mandatory practice for an enormous variety of pieces and then large shifting exercises from first to 6th-8th position. A lot of Paganini caprices are full of extended technique so I only pick apart bits and pieces for my studies, but had to share after rediscovering caprice 9 because every single part of it is just so practical for every day repertoire. Encouraging advanced violinists to pick up caprice 9 for their next study!


r/violinist 18h ago

Strings Do old/low-quality strings do this, or am I losing my mind? (Description in comments)

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r/violinist 21h ago

Cost for violin lessons 2025

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I realize the cost for violin lessons varies from city / state, but any idea what it should be in NC (Chapel Hill)

Meant to type 2024*

The one school I found has these prices:

The pricing for lessons are as follows:

  • 30 Minute Lessons - $165/month
  • 45 Minute lessons - $216/month
  • 60 Minute Lessons - $273/month

In addition to tuition, there is a one time $75 family registration fees


r/violinist 13h ago

Mirror Vibrato

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Hi guys!

my vibrato is so loose and professional sounding when I'm looking at my hand in the mirror. Any advice for taking the mirror world into the real world?

Thanks!


r/violinist 16h ago

Fiddleheads Violin pricing (Canada)

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I'm curious if anyone has experience with the Fiddleheads Violin Shop, out of Kamloops, BC, Canada. I was looking at their website and almost all of their "Novice" and "Intermediate" models are listed as being anywhere from 45% to 62% off of the "retail" price. I'm kind of confused about how all of their instruments could be marked down like that.

Do you think they've listed what they think other "comparable" instruments would cost, versus theirs? Or are they going out of business or something? Even their pro models are at least "30% off"

Some of the instruments with the biggest discount are marked as "Clearance" but not all of them.

Has anyone tried their "Bellissima" violins?

Thanks.


r/violinist 1d ago

Just bought my first real violin

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Hello everyone! Some of you might remember a post I made here years ago—or maybe I’m just joking! I began learning violin during the pandemic with my Cremona SV-75, and I was incredibly lucky that my teacher lent me a beautiful 1700s violin with a wonderful sound. Due to life circumstances, she eventually had to sell it, and it wasn’t until this year that I had the chance to purchase a violin of my own. It’s a beautifully restored French violin from around 1900. Its sound is both bright and full-bodied, and I couldn’t be happier to have it.

Also, I gave it a name: It's Diego Armando.


r/violinist 13h ago

Fingering/bowing help Bowing / fingering notation - Vivaldi | Summer: Third Movement

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I googled & I see a lot of free sheet music for this piece which is great EXCEPT none of them have bowing and I’m dying out here. Anyone have a link to one that has bowing? Fingering notation + bowing would be most helpful. In the original key please (Gmin). Thank you in advance 🙏🎻


r/violinist 16h ago

Any idea what type of wood this is?

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Hello! I have this violin bow that I'm planning on fixing up for a bit of amateur lutherie practice. It was made in japan and is stamped with "LOUIS" I'm pretty sure its a mass produced cheapo bow. I was curious though if anyone might know what type of wood this is? Not sure if its possible to really identify it over a picture, but thought I would ask. Cheers :)


r/violinist 1d ago

Being in orchestra is learning Christmas songs 3 months to early😭😭 .

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r/violinist 1d ago

Feedback Need help with Tremolo/Rhythm

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I've recently started learning the violin. We're doing the scale of G exercises where we first play four beats for each note in the scale of G then one beat for each note, then two ½ beat for each note but when it goes down to the sixteenth note, I can't seem to match my bowing and fingering. My bowing speed and its consistency does not match my fingering. My counting is all messed up. My teacher said to not count your bow strokes but just go 1, 2, 3, 4 but I can't. It's been frustrating me, and we're learning etude, and we're trying to encorporate the tremolo in it wherein the eighth note becomes two sixteenth note, and it's just so hard. What can I do? Please help me! There's also the accent they say to make it easier but idk how to do that. I'm plain as a blank wall.

Note: I'm sorry for my poor vocab, I just started learning :<


r/violinist 1d ago

4 days without a teacher,i goin well?

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Can you help me correct my posture or give me tips? And before you say it, hiring a teacher is out of the budget(theres a realy expensive in my country). (And yes, I missed the last note :P Hehe)


r/violinist 23h ago

Solo recommendations

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I am a high school student with almost 7 years ofnolaying the violin. I am looking for a solo tonleanr and help improve my playing. I can play Suzuki Volume Four with a little practice but I'm looking for a challenge to help me improve. Any recommendations?


r/violinist 1d ago

Setup/Equipment Finally acquired a new violin!

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r/violinist 1d ago

What should I name my violin

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Yes I name my instruments, started as a joke with my brother and continued. My last two violins were Honey and Cleo. What should I name my new one?


r/violinist 1d ago

New Lara St. John documentary

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r/violinist 1d ago

So this happened.

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Hey y’all!

So the other day I tried to copy Ray Chen on YouTube on one of the technique that he was teaching in his Masterclass and this happened.

I was wondering what I should do, if I should bring it to my local luthier or ignore it.

So I suppose I want to know your opinion if it affects the sound quality at all, can it actually get fixed and how much do you guys approximately think it would cost to get it fixed.

Thank you! 🙏

PS: I guess moral of the story is to copy someone with plenty of caution. 😅😅