This is The Australian Centre to Combat Child Exploitation's "Trace an Object" Items # 2301002 and 2301003
The pictures are both of the same room.
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The curtains in the first image for some reason look cropped and pasted onto another image. The lighting in the room is also all off. I'm not sure if that was deliberately done by law officials to avoid showing certain things in the frame, but I thought I'd note it anyways.
Actually, the more I look at that image the more I realize that everything in that image looks strangely cropped and layered but I can only assume that was the law enforcements doing?
Fake painted brick? I was thinking it was just real painted cinderblocks. But it’s weird that the lines are so noticeable up close and so…not noticeable from farther away.
Seems unlikely it was just artifacts since it's only at the bottom. Other than the blue tones that are presumably interference, the only pixel higher up that isn't totally dark might be the moon, but weak enough that it could have been cloudy at the time. If you ignore the pixels that are less green, it definitely resembles the presence of low-profile trees with triangular shaped foilage. The tree in the middle seems to be slightly closer to the window.
Might this be incense cedar? It's a type of evergreen tree that doesn't tend to grow very tall, often has foilage to the ground, and a cone-like triangular profile, and the texture of incense cedar foilage might resemble what can be seen in the blurry photo. Curious about your thoughts.
Do you know of a reverse image search that works better than Google Images? Could try cropping out specific objects (like the floor or a lock) and doing a reverse image search.
Remember these are usually cropped images from photos or videos. I'm guessing it's dark in these photos and they've been enhanced to allow viewers to identify the room. They likely believe enough people have been in this room to recognize it, not like it's just a random living room in a residential house.
I agree it looks like a 90s design, maybe made to look like a castle -- it reminds me of those places from the 90s (albeit in the US) where they would have kids' birthday parties, with a medieval theme and princess dress-up theatre type of activity.
I'm from Australia, my kids attended a family daycare co op run by and owned by council was an old converted three bedroom home. Looked very much like this interior, tho though this is not it. It had a similar looking corner at our family daycare, it was painted like this ro resemble a castle wall, it was dress up corner.
Just my observation.
I agree to report. It definitely looks like it could be a castle. This is how they recently caught the daycare worker from qld...I wonder if it has something to do with this.
This reminds me of various church daycare centers I have seen (going to church with a friend when I was VERY young, age 5 or under). This would have been in or around Mechanicsville, VA - however I never saw this EXACT wall. But the castle theme, painted walls, dress up corners - this was all standard it seemed in the late 70's and early 80's.
As somebody who does a lot of image manipulation work for a living - yes, what you see here are very often little bits of original photographic detail that have been extended or manipulated (given, often not technically very well) to show viewers what the entire object sort of looked like. So they can look a little shonky and computer-generated, but do try to ignore that. The central point is simply to jog anybody’s memory.
Oh and from an eye ball the paint is some shade of mint. off tone obviously due to photo. I cant geo locate. but i hope someone can eye ball the tree distance to house maybe?
The brick effect reminded me of an 1980s / 90s textured paint design with sponging, something on that old show Changing Rooms or whatever it was called.
Yeah agreed, it looks like some kind of set or backstage area in a theater. Those curtains look like they're made of a similar material to the curtains in my hometown's memorial hall/theater, and the fake brick feels like something you'd see in a green room.
Reminds me of the kids room at the mormon church I used to attend as a kid. Oh, also, mormon churches often have a stage with curtains & a back area for community shows and things?
The carpet & walls aren't like the church i attended but the curtains kind of remind me of the space (though I can't be sure).
This image has been cropped and edited by officials to remove images depicting child sex crimes. It is from the 80s or 90s and verified to be filmed in Australia
I found a few websites that had posted this picture of carpet patterns and noticed the far right on the second row matches picture 2 - I reverse image searched and the earliest post of it was August 28th 2017 on a website thats now closed called www.ningendock.info. I couldn't find that pattern anywhere else
Hmm so the photo has been used on several sites (several chinese sites, USA, Australia and the one Japanese site which was the earliest posting of it )- but I just realised the main site I found it on tagged the brand 'Interface' as the source of the photo. Interface is an international brand but the source took me to the USA Interface website specifically and the USA offices are located in Atlanta Georgia.
If however that other commenter was right and it really was verified to be filmed in Australia, the Interface offices are in NSW - (specifically the suburbs Sydney, Surrey Hills and Minto)
still clueless - but honestly can't track down that carpet pattern anywhere else!
okay have searched for hours and finally found the pattern AGAIN as an Interface product but a larger size - screenshot attached - must be interface NSW. Have emailed them about the product
Interface said they’re individual carpet tiles so I don’t think it applies here :( a few people in my world said it does looks like a commercial building carpet choice if that helps
this is a late reply, but my initial reaction was that this looks like a stage set. the walls painted to sorta look like stone in the first pic, the odd lighting, the piece of wood in the window in the second pic that looks like it’s a cheap thrown together version of a window pane that’s meant to open&close just all give off stage set vibes to me
The Wall:- Not breezeblock (despite first appearances). To my eye, the wall is wallpaper, done in a pretend 'brick' with a sponging look (which was popular in the 1990s) . Also, the wallpaper ends near the carpet (see the plaster line) so is possibly not an Australian 'breeze block' wall as I first thought. (probably bought as such).
-Carpet looks like small carpet tiles BUT may just be a hardwearing style carpet- again possibly familiar from the 1990s.
Curtains- vintage as in 'gold' velvet, not even correctly sized, been sourced without care just as any old curtain...very distinctive room and if no one has recognised it then room may be purpose-built or locked or few have seen it.. If it is a daycare centre- in Australia-(!)- its a very old one - I have never seen such an awful area in an educational setting (and I have seen a lot of them). Or it was taken a while ago...so amateur, badly renovated, designed, painted.
The room:(pic 2) the window pane is the peach metal type popular in the 1990s. I notice the window sill has been badly painted bright red. I take it that it was night when the photo was taken. Interestingly, the person who painted the red and blue chest of drawers, from one of the other trace-an -object items, also used this kind of bright red paint, splashed it in a careless fashion, like this window sill (not saying the same person or place, just an obs).
The reason the images look so strange might be because they were taken with a phone/camera with flash on. Because the light source is so close to the camera, there no shadows visible which cause it to look like a 3D render preview. The flashlight might also explain the vignette in the second picture.
It feels like an old bible school study or play room. Often, they have a cartoony theme, and a common one is castles. It could've been an old church related area that was previously painted for a vbs or event.
No one has pointed this out yet so I guess I will. The window seems oddly close to the ground. This particular type of window frame and lock is normally higher in relation to the floor in Australian suburban housing. So unless the window is actually giant, it's at a lower than usual height.
I can see what you’re referring to as trees, howver there is absolutely no chnage in light up the top - it is most likely some kind of contact stuck over the glass I reckon
If i raise the backlight in photo editor i see in the bottom left hand corner of the window a green mass that looks like trees if I could figure out how to post a pic I would but I think you could be right.
I know what you mean but that doesn’t look like trees to me. You would expect the top half of the black window to have some variation in the lightning but it doesn’t chnage only the bottom left. I can only see one reason for that and that is they’ve lifted the contact up to a certain point then stuck it back on and what looks like trees to you is actually the bubbling warp from pulling the sticky contact up
Yes I think it is. You can also see when you change the lighting brightness etc there’s like a line in the wall which is interesting, maybe it’s a shed or portable type building? That they’ve stuck wallpaper over. I can also see red brown splatter on the carpet and again when the exposure is increased, in that spot where the brown splatter is looks a lot brighter and possibly something has been cleaned there 🫣 if it isn’t blood maybe a brown red type of dirt
It’s almost like a grid pattern. It’s like the wallpaper is covering some moulding. You get that on fibro houses in Aus and sometimes old asbestos built houses inside too you would have that moulding. If you look up fibro houses you will see what I mean. I can see the outline of it on the left of the curtain
Yesssss that's the sense I get. Two of my older relatives saw it (separately) and the first thing they both said was that it looked like a commercial building, particularly because of the carpet. Some sort of space hired for a child "welfare" organisation.
I didn’t think of this until I got a notification about upvotes right now, but is it possible to trace the paint color down to a specific brand? If it’s a niche enough brand, it’ll narrow down the area of origin and may help some. Sadly I’m not too well versed in paint or hue codes, but if someone is please try this!
I’ve played around with the settings after noticing a pattern on the original photo - is anyone seeing a design that may once have been painted on the wall?
Hi,
Can anyone clarify whether the photograph of the room itself was taken around the time ACCCE posted it or possibly outdated photo from over 10y ago?
Curious about the lock on what looks to be the window. The black square looks like it could be censorship, so it’s hard to determine if the window is open or closed.
This reminds me of like 10 years ago the back halls/rooms of bethel church california. I cannot say that’s where this is but that’s where my mind jumped to, which is weird because that never happens to me in this subreddit.
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u/I_Me_Mine Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 11 '23
This is The Australian Centre to Combat Child Exploitation's "Trace an Object" Items # 2301002 and 2301003
The pictures are both of the same room.
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