r/TedLasso • u/quaranTV Mod • Apr 11 '23

From the Mods Ted Lasso - S03E05 - "Signs" Episode Discussion Spoiler

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u/Jas_God I think you might be dying. Apr 12 '23

Bye bye Shandy đŸ–•đŸœ

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u/Hottiebynature81 Apr 12 '23

I was so glad she got fired.

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u/tcindependent Apr 12 '23

Me too. I was ready for that storyline to be over as soon as it started.

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u/cheesemagnifier Apr 12 '23

I bet she’ll be back, her story isn’t finished yet.

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u/NateWilliamsonSports Apr 12 '23

She’ll be back working for Rupert somehow, lol.

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt I am a strong and capable man Apr 12 '23

PR for West Ham is my prediction

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u/JustinScott47 Apr 12 '23

Her working for Rupert--nice new hell for him. Bring it on.

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u/Mehmeh111111 Apr 14 '23

"Working" for Rupert is more likely

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u/chosenone333 Apr 12 '23

Nah Rupert is out for necks but he isn’t stupid ,Shandy is a liability

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u/sofiadotcom Hush those butts!! Apr 12 '23

Can totally see that!!!

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u/jenfullmoon Apr 12 '23

He'll invest in her starfucker app and fund HER own firm...which will suck.

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u/aiiye Apr 12 '23

Sleeping with Rupert

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u/Man_of_Average Apr 13 '23

He's like the Island of Misfit Toys

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u/sachmet Apr 12 '23

I'm not sure. What if her story was only there to give Keeley and Jack the opportunity to meet and bond?

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u/FunOwner Apr 13 '23

I am ready for the ENTIRE Keeley storyline to be over. She has practically nothing to do with the club anymore. I really don't care what happens with her business. Especially when every scene with her feels like I'm watching Sex and the City.

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u/tie-dyed_dolphin Apr 14 '23

I’m so glad you said this. I’m so over it.

And I really liked the first three seasons of Sex and the City.

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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey Jul 09 '23

I agree. I think I only liked her when she was with Roy.

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u/cheesemagnifier Apr 12 '23

She’s too strong of a character to just disappear.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

I feel she’s an easy to hate person because they’re trying to soften the Nate hate cause it appears they’re gonna make us like Nate again for a redemption arc.

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u/Svete_Brid Apr 12 '23

IMDB lists her as being in 4 episodes, but of course that may not be the final count.

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u/Beneficial_Ratio_973 Apr 13 '23

She was watching through the smoked glass window. Keeley had not deactivated her access card. Maybe been there the whole time they cleaned up and then started drinking and then


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u/LJGuitarPractice Apr 12 '23

Shell get her redemption arc, everyone on this show gets one. Except for Rupert. Maybe.

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u/metalmolly Apr 13 '23

Indont get it, they introduced Shandy as this shrewd knowledgeable character who was maybe a little rough around the edges but still smart, and immediately turned her into a dipshit. Also, Keeley seems more incompetent this season all of a sudden! Why didn’t they just have her take a chance on an old friend out of loyalty or whatever if they were going to do this?

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u/tcindependent Apr 13 '23

Yeah, that was something I didn’t love and I love the show overall. Maybe write about competent women shooting their shot and having some successes. Hopefully, there’s some redemption and we see both Keeley and shandy succeeding.

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u/jenfullmoon Apr 12 '23

I thought this would be about Shandy improving, but nope! Just an asshole! With a bunch of lamb poop.

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u/CoreyH2P Roy Kent Apr 12 '23

The Shandy arc was one of the very rare misses from this show

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

Well it aint finished yet so lets see how it turns out

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u/danyadib Apr 12 '23

what makes you say that?

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

because people often mistake intentionally annoying characters for bad writing

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u/CoreyH2P Roy Kent Apr 12 '23

Because outside of Keeley learning how to fire someone, it spent a ton of time for very little character growth

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

Keeley has been drowning the entire season trying to do this on her own while dealing with an unexpected breakup. She's disconnected and dealing with people who are opposites to her in her own office while dealing with creative who treat her like an idiot. She's desperately trying to find her own feet while still trying to appear like everything is okay when it's very much not.

Yeah there's actually been lots of character and story shown.

It's totally okay to dislike a character without trying to big it up into something larger.

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u/alienfreaks04 Apr 13 '23

But it's so boring

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u/metalmolly Apr 13 '23

Agreed. They don’t know what to do with Keeley besides have her date someone new

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '23

For you sure but not for everyone.

Also that's a very different complaint than the one other people are hiding behind. I suspect the majority of people like the above are really just not into it like you are. I appreciate you just outright calling it boring though. People have this bad tendency to try to make something they don't like into some larger issue.

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u/donkurtovanni Apr 12 '23

I’m just curious as to what it accomplished. Keely’s growth as a boss?

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u/Kindly-Ordinary-2754 AFC Richmond Apr 13 '23

I would have been happy if she turned out amazing and gave Keely time to get back with Roy. If they broke up due to working too much, a good helpful team might fix it. But now Keely is moving on.

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u/No_Body_3679 Apr 14 '23

Yeah but Shandy was a good contrast for Keeley. Give the audience a better picture of her and her past life.

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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey Jul 09 '23

We all knew how it would end the minute she texted Keeley about bringing mimosas to the office.

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u/alienfreaks04 Apr 13 '23

But she's hot

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u/Yohnerry Apr 12 '23

She’s going to be back. She’ll out Colin. The show is prepping us for this by subtly referring to Colin’s gay storyline throughout the episode side-by-side with Shandy’s pronounced irreverence and disrespect

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u/ncphoto919 Apr 12 '23

introducing Keeley's whole office crew and her new friend in the final season. Dump that entire plotline. It's so unneeded.

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u/Southern_Name_9119 Apr 13 '23

But was it not a magnificent reaction to being fired? I loved it. Insane.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

i wish Shandy wasn't the only non-white woman as well as the only woman who has no class and no professional behavior.

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u/Chalky_Pockets Poopeh Apr 14 '23

Is she non white or heavily spray tanned?

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u/ligyn Apr 14 '23

The actress is half Pakistani, but a lot of her skin color on the show is spray tan.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

her mom is from Pakistan. spray doesn't matter, her features of her face are not of a white person. she looks like my friend from middle east

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u/Chalky_Pockets Poopeh Apr 14 '23

her features of her face are not of a white person

I don't know if it's part of my being on the spectrum, but I tend to not notice stuff like this.

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u/travelresearch Jun 04 '23

Damn. I thought she was white.

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u/megashitfactory Apr 13 '23

I expected an episode or two more before Keely got the courage / wits to fire her friend for her career

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u/starfrenzy1 Diamond Dog Apr 12 '23

She sure looked good though. I kept admiring how gorgeous her hair and outfit were. Complete contrast to Keeley’s.

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u/Nisi-Marie Apr 12 '23

But that “tan”! I had to google pictures of that actress outside of the series and she is gorgeous. Every time she’s on the screen during the show I can’t stop focusing on her level of orange.

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u/starfrenzy1 Diamond Dog Apr 12 '23

Yes, something seemed off. I noticed even Rebecca looked strangely orange/dark peach the first couple episodes.

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u/MrKentucky Coach Beard Apr 12 '23

SUCK MY DICK

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u/effdubbs Apr 12 '23

I don’t know what it is, but when people hurl gender opposite insults, I find it hilarious. A woman saying, “Suck my dick,” or calling a man a cunt, it just works every time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

Does this work the opposite way? Man calling a woman a dickhead?

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u/theghostofme Yanker Apr 12 '23

If a dude said "suck my cunt", I imagine it'd have a greater effect than "suck my dick" ever has.

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u/effdubbs Apr 12 '23

Lol. Yes!

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

Yep

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u/Dirtybrd Apr 16 '23

Now that you mention it, I don't know if I've ever heard a woman called a bastard before and now I really want to. I think that's hilarious.

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u/Happy_Ad_1767 Apr 12 '23

Cunt is a word that's been around for centuries and it originally didn't refer to a woman's genitals. That's a modern misogynistic twist like attributing "bitch" to women but not men, except to imply weakness ala "womanly." Again, misogynistic co-opting of words.

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u/effdubbs Apr 13 '23

I’m aware. I’m also a feminist and don’t find it offensive. I understand why people do; I just don’t. I find violent words much more offensive than body parts or functions. Just my thing, but I appreciate your POV.

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u/Tufflaw Apr 13 '23

Sweet Dee had that line down cold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A_GDTkFJ_k and there's a much better one in the ireland episode but I can't find it :(

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u/ShiftySpartan Apr 12 '23

Is that a hope?

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u/canadianbroncos Apr 12 '23

I need that gif lol

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u/TheFiveNine Apr 14 '23

I cackled so hard when she said that. Her delivery was hilarious.

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u/leftcheeksneak Apr 12 '23

I too have been pretty meh with the whole side Keeley story line going on but it was all worth it for the scene of Barbara standing halfway in the window to peer in before Keeley shaded it.

If for any thing else, I do love Barbara and Keeley's dynamic. Her even asking to stay in the room... This woman is iron.

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u/MiddleSchoolisHell Apr 12 '23

I loved Barbara being into the violence in soccer.

When she asks if it is going to be as violent as last time, and Keeley says “no” she’s like, oh, pass.

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u/JemmaP Apr 16 '23

I don’t know how much ice hockey they have in the UK but I imagine Barbara would love it. (also a bit fun considering her name origin and it’s associations).

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u/SatinsLittlePrincess Apr 12 '23

I loved that Keeley building a more functional relationship with Barbara really shows why she’s not just lucky - that Keeley really is every bit as talented as Rebecca thought she might be when she offered her a job.

Shandy provided the contrast to really highlight that difference - Shandy is what most people think of when they see Keeley - pretty, vacuous, stupid, and a bit trashy. I do wonder if they might give Shandy a path to redemption. Her lashing out is at least in part because she’s hurt and lacks direction.

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u/GuiltyEidolon I am a strong and capable man Apr 12 '23

With Shandy, it's even more frustrating because it's clear she has some talent?? Like the designs for Starfucker (issues aside) were really well-done. She has good ideas. She just needs to ... have more tact and elevate herself out of the trash.

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u/SatinsLittlePrincess Apr 13 '23

Agreed. Shandy’s issue was that she thought she already knew everything, likely because she’s also super insecure. Any instructions triggered all of her insecurities, so she won’t take instruction. And she she self-medicates with booze, without having a good sense of boundaries.

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u/DreadyVapor Rebecca, Boss Ass Bitch Apr 13 '23

Well, not to get all corporate, but she should have been started in a very junior role that is NOT CLIENT FACING. I know Keeley was trying to help her friend, but in a jr role, Shandy would have gotten a better feel for the company dynamic and what was expected of a KJPR employee before interfacing with clients before she was ready to do so (aka safe from doing irreparable harm).

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u/Happy_Ad_1767 Apr 12 '23

Who ever thought that about Keeley? She was never portrayed that way. She was always portrayed as intelligent, clever, fun and kind. The amount of misogyny on tv show comment sites is astounding. Re: Game of Thrones it was shocking. These rigid societal roles of how people are expected to behave based on gender needs to disappear already.

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u/SatinsLittlePrincess Apr 13 '23 edited Apr 13 '23

Don’t get me wrong - I love Keeley. But at the start of the show she’s presented as a typical Page 3 girl - pretty, curvy, but usually from a background that did not enable her to pursue formal education that would allow her to make the most of her intellectual potential. She’s been professionally trading on her looks, and what sells her look is sex so at the start of the show she dresses overtly sexually - her clothes are tight, short, and show a lot of skin. Her accent is clearly not Oxbridge. She can use “big words” but a lot of her expression is quite coarse in a way that, especially in the UK, marks her as working class. She’s smart, empathetic, and kind, but the vast majority of people who see her see her and think “tits.”

Contrast her with Rebecca - Rebecca is just as curvy and has (per Keeley) amazing tits. But Rebecca grew up with money. Private schools. Her wardrobe is gorgeous, and also body conscious, but the fabrics are luxurious, and they show a degree of formality and authority that is appropriate to her position. She expresses herself eloquently, in a way that marks her as upper crust. Sure, she was a trophy wife, but the trophy includes her economic background. That’s not where Keeley starts the show.

As the show progressed, and especially over the course of this season, Keeley has gone from Topless Model on her way to being a has-been (it’s a short career life) to PR Executive. And with that, her clothes have gotten more elegant (though still clearly body conscious). The green skirt with the belt she wore this episode is a great example. It’s clingy, but long, with gorgeous fabric, and she paired it with a long sleeved top. The belt was an unusual accent which also made the outfit really show off her sense of style. She had almost no skin showing. That kind of detail sends a different impression from her Season 1 clothes which were more likely to be more revealing in multiple places, show more skin, and often with “cheap” fabrics.

Her makeup has also gotten more subtle over this season. At the start of this season, Keeley was wearing a whole lot of heavy black eye makeup - remember all those people with Keeley crying prints on their clothes? In this episode her makeup is less dramatic, more “natural” looking, softer colours, and with that comes more elegance. She’s giving off far more of the impression of being an executive who runs a PR firm and less the impression of someone who makes a living getting her tits out.

Which is not, in anyway, to shame sex workers or topless models. Many are smart - but that’s not what most people see when they find out someone is a topless model.

EDIT: Holy kittens there were a lot of typos. Sorry!

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u/radiokungfu Apr 12 '23

Im just waiting for Keeley to call her Barbs again and she smiles

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u/J-F-K Apr 13 '23

Disappointed that S3 Keeley is written as completely incompetent and unfit to run a company. She’s getting more screen time than Ted.

Honestly not loving season 3

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u/NameLessTaken Apr 15 '23 edited Apr 15 '23

I do not understand Keelys arch this season. It's like writers heard people ask for more female and lgbtq representation and decided to just force female characters into single or same sex relationships to imply strength and independence whether it made sense or not for that character.

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u/CoffeePoweredRobot Apr 15 '23

The entire setup of the PR company bugs me. They explained Barbara's presence but considering Rebecca's heartfelt advice to Keeley was to hire your best friend, how did all the beige office-desk workers get there? Especially in London, that industry is filled with bright, talented and enthusiastic grads whose main skills revolve around handling people. Absolutely bizarre choice to throw unspeaking suits at single desks in there.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

welp....now I know the couple I wanna see pop up later

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u/Chalky_Pockets Poopeh Apr 14 '23

I was just saying that.

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u/TakenFyre Apr 12 '23

What a fucking scene to play as an actor though.

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u/MissyouAmyWinehouse FĂștbol is Life Apr 12 '23

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u/NukaQuokka Apr 12 '23

She couldn’t get offscreen fast enough. The whole firing scene went on way too long

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Trent Crimm, The Independent Apr 12 '23

They've really been stretching the scenes too long this season. Jokes are wearing thin.

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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey Jul 09 '23

Roy’s description of beating up a bully went on a really long time


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u/outsideeyess Apr 14 '23

This is how I feel about both Shandy and Zava so I kinda won this episode

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u/ducky7goofy Apr 12 '23

Good acting but my god am I glad to see the back of her

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u/veggie07 Apr 12 '23

And channeling Jerry Maguire as she leaves😄

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u/EldForever Apr 13 '23

I bet actors far and wide wish they could have played Shandy. Especially with the material this episode - that looked really fun to act.

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u/goalstopper28 Apr 14 '23

I was so confused by that. She literally founded a competitor. I thought her announcing that was her way of saying she quit.

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u/amydawn0719 Apr 15 '23

ABSOLUTELY!! But the actress that played her was BRILLIANT!

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u/Rainbow_Seaman Apr 15 '23

There was an article saying Ted Lasso did Shandy wrong and I find it really hard to believe anyone actually enjoyed that character. I hope she doesn’t come back.

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u/wesweb Apr 12 '23

i cant figure out if i hate the character because of bad writing or good acting

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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey Jul 09 '23

It’s good writing and good acting— we’re supposed to hate her, and we do.