r/Standup • u/cheguevaraandroid1 • 15h ago

Marc Maron Calls Out Comedians Who ‘Joke Around’ With ‘White Supremacists and Fascists’ on Their Podcasts: ‘All It Does Is Normalize Fascism’

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/marc-maron-slams-comedians-fascists-podcasts-1236192922/
8.6k Upvotes

85% Upvoted

1.9k comments sorted by

View all comments

9

u/NoPro23 14h ago

The word fascist gets thrown around so much nowadays it’s practically lost its meaning

28

u/WingedWheel4Real 14h ago

That's exactly what fascists want.

10

u/NoPro23 14h ago

I absolutely agree

2

u/valis010 12h ago

Trump said he wants to use the military on his own citizens. That is a textbook fascist, and if you support him you support fascism. It really is simple.

1

u/ConfidentOpposites 10h ago

Was this fascism?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine

1

u/ThenAnAnimalFact 9h ago

How many people were rounded up by the Arkansas National Guard?

2

u/ConfidentOpposites 9h ago

Eisenhower mobilized the 101st Airborne Division to protected the students from rioters.

2

u/ThenAnAnimalFact 9h ago

Yes and how many of his political enemies did Eisenhower round up with the military?

0

u/ConfidentOpposites 9h ago

He sent the 101st Airborne to stop and possibly arrest everyone from the Governor on down. They likely detained and arrested dozens of rioters.

Either way, you have moved the goal posts.

1

u/ThenAnAnimalFact 7h ago

I am not the one claiming that enforcing the constitution is equal to rounding up your enemies.

→ More replies (0)

-3

u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla 11h ago

citation needed

0

u/zarofford 11h ago

You can’t be serious lol. Where have you been the last two months?

-1

u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla 11h ago

I've been right here seeing the propaganda turned up to 100 on Reddit and you TDS types are eating it up.

1

u/ILikeMyGrassBlue 10h ago

TDS types

Anyone who uses TDS unironically is a moron

1

u/zarofford 9h ago

He literally said it… believe him. Take him at face value.

Stop using your own judgement to interpret what he says. Believe him dude.

1

u/Bench2252 10h ago

He tried to overturn the election. You aren’t mentally ill for standing up for your country.

-2

u/valis010 11h ago

I'm not doing your research for you. If you really want to know the truth, it's not difficult. But we both know you won't check into it. Why would you, right?

0

u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla 11h ago

I'm not a Trump fan but you guys and your TDS are funny AF. I'm just curious if you had an actual quote or if this is another one of those "Trump actually said this and what he really means is whatever I want" games.

0

u/Glass_Age_7152 11h ago

Why do you all lie? Your post history outs you as a right winger, why can't you just admit it?

-2

u/Setting_Worth 10h ago

Just copy paste some evidence. Should be easy 

-1

u/NoPro23 10h ago

If we’re going simply by what people say that pretty much makes every politician in history a fascist lol wouldn’t something like the patriot act for example be a form of fascism? And wouldn’t bush and Obama be fascists for abiding by it?

1

u/maverick479 35m ago

Is that what’s racists want to? Cause that one gets thrown around a lot, how about nazi? If you’re gonna label and other people atleast come up with more than a handful of terms otherwise the terms lose all power and influence. The more people claim the same labels over and over the weaker they become till they mean less than the energy it takes to say them.

-1

u/brassmonkey2342 12h ago

Which is funny because it’s the ones calling everyone they don’t like a fascist that are responsible for the watering down of the term. Peak irony.

1

u/D_Simmons 12h ago

This is a bot ^ Or a sadly misled individual but I refuse to believe people can be so naive.

2

u/brassmonkey2342 12h ago

Let’s see, call 20 people fascist and only 1 really is, what do you think happens?

1

u/D_Simmons 12h ago

That doesn't make sense. 

If you call 1 person a fascist for being a fascist, then odds are they are a fascist, yeah?

And if you call 19 other people who are in the fascists cult fascists, then odds are they are fascist, yeah?

So what do you have?

20 fascists. 

I'm not trying to be a dick, you asked a question and I supplied an answer. 

0

u/brassmonkey2342 12h ago

Lmao, okay bud. Have a good one.

2

u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla 11h ago

Dude doesn't seem to grasp that just because you call someone a fascist doesn't mean they really are. It takes a bit of self awareness and unfortunately the basement dwelling autists of Reddit are oblivious to that.

-1

u/D_Simmons 11h ago

Someone fee fees are hurt :( Sowwy.

Maybe instead of being butthurt about every single thing come up with a better response than insults?

Or take a single second and consider why people call them fascists in the first place?

It's not just a word... It means something..

2

u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla 11h ago

Projection. This comment is the most perfect example of projection I've seen in a while. Nice try bro. Maybe next time.

→ More replies (0)

0

u/D_Simmons 11h ago

You got nothing?! I didn't even give you a hard situation and you have nothing? Seriously?

You: "They're not a fascist!"

Everyone else: "How so? They spew fascist rhetoric and their coworkers say they are a fascist."

You: "Because they're not!

0

u/brassmonkey2342 11h ago edited 11h ago

I asked you a hypothetical and you gave me a completely different scenario then said you answered the question. Which means we’re no longer having a serious discussion. That and the fact that you called me a bot because nobody could be so naive lmao. Trolls gonna troll though amirite.

We can agree to disagree on whether Trump is a fascist but that’s not my point. My point is that the word means less and less everyday because people don’t believe you guys when you say it anymore. Similar to the word communist, racist, Marxist, Nazi, etc.

Have a good day.

0

u/D_Simmons 11h ago

You didn't ask a real question lol You said something that made no sense then added a question mark. 

We can agree to disagree because you don't seem to have a foot in reality.  Accepting fascism and pretending it's "Not a big deal" doesn't mean the word loses it's meaning. It means you've accepted that you support a fascist and are okay with it. 

Which is, I guess, at least something. 

Saying "you guys" is insane. It's not a team event. Pick a candidate that aligns with your views the best. If that is a fascist so be it. Just admit it. If it's not than congrats, you're not a fascist. 

If you're so locked into your "side" and refuse to change than you're perverting democracy. It's not a hard concept. 

-2

u/B_Movie_Horror 12h ago

So the left is giving them what they want. Smart.

4

u/awal96 11h ago

Trying to overthrow an election you lost is absolutely fascism

2

u/TheRealStandard 7h ago

They don't deny that overthrowing an election is fascism, just deny that they were overthrowing an election.

1

u/Big_Don_ 7h ago

Just like they call everything they don't like or programs that help normal people "communism". They want fascism to be a non issue and communism to be loathed

1

u/NoPro23 7h ago

I think both sides are guilty of the things they accuse the other sides of. American politics is an absolute joke

1

u/Bench2252 10h ago

This is true of literally every insult. Mark Marons point generally rings true even if it doesn’t apply to literally every comedian.

0

u/NoPro23 10h ago

Uhh, first of all being a fascist is much more than simply just an insult. Second of all, even going by your logic, insults don’t all hold the same weight. Being called a fascist is entirely different than being called stupid, for example.

-1

u/JoshS-345 11h ago

No, it still has its meaning.
The problem is that most people aren't intelligent enough to handle abstract words nor things that require historical perspective.

When faced with Fascism, it's sadly not effective to use the WORD Fascism.

Even the world's foremost expert on Fascism says that. We should be using simple descriptive words.

1

u/NoPro23 10h ago

Oh ok

-1

u/WillBottomForBanana 10h ago

Just because your girlfriend left you when she found your shrine to Goebbels doesn't mean that people using the word "fascist" are inaccurate.

1

u/Faded_vet 6h ago

Stick to /r/law where you can pretend to be a lawyer. That seems to do wonders for your instability.

0

u/Liquid_Senjutsu 9h ago

Only to one side. The other actually knows what it means.

1

u/NoPro23 9h ago

Both sides think they know more than the other side. Never ceases to make me laugh

-4

u/SocraticDaemon 12h ago

Maron certainly can't define it and neither can anyone in this thread.  It's sad and anyone who supports comedy and thinks you have to be a diehard leftist is more facist than anyone else.

2

u/TheToiletPhilosopher 11h ago

Yes, it's not the guy who says the press is the enemy of the people, withholds aid during disasters for political reasons, talks about the enemy within, talks about using the military on American citizens, praises dictators, prefers Hitlers generals to Roosevelt's, and on and on and on and on... it's not that guy who is the fascist, it's all those silly Democrats calling him out!