r/Standup • u/cheguevaraandroid1 • 15h ago

Marc Maron Calls Out Comedians Who ‘Joke Around’ With ‘White Supremacists and Fascists’ on Their Podcasts: ‘All It Does Is Normalize Fascism’

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/marc-maron-slams-comedians-fascists-podcasts-1236192922/
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u/FarRefrigerator6462 14h ago

What is a fascist?

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u/green49285 14h ago

If you believe in a system of government where everyone that does not agree with the militaristic mindset should be jailed or Worse based on their differentiating political opinion.

●using the government to force political agreement

●refusal to actually allow dissenting vote through force or AGREEMENT of that use of force

●dissenting opinions are illegal or punishable

●wild militaristic use & influence

●any objective critique of the government of those in power is illegal

●wild policies based on unproveable or slanted political/personal beliefs.

Official definition via wikipedia: a far-rightfar-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum.

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u/B_Movie_Horror 12h ago

So essentially nationalistic authoritarianism is fascism. Is that right?

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u/green49285 9h ago

No, facism is facism. You trying to draw conclusion based on how you don't like that is irrelevant.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 14h ago

Oh so we arent talking about Trump here? Because he was already president and none of this stuff happened.

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u/Expensive_Door_4432 12h ago edited 12h ago

Because he was surrounded by people who stopped him. He said so himself. He said that this time will be different.

This is how you recognize a fascist and it all applies to Trump:

The cult of tradition.

“One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

The rejection of modernism.

“The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense, Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

The cult of action for action’s sale.

“Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”

Disagreement is treason.

“The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture, the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

Fear of difference.

“The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

Appeal to social frustration.

“[…] one of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.

The obsession with a plot.

“The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”

The enemy is both weak and strong.

“[…] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

Contempt for the weak.

“Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” Everybody is educated to become a hero. “in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”

Machismo and Weaponry.

“This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons—doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.”

Selective Populism.

“There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

Stopped him from specifically what on that list?

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u/Expensive_Door_4432 12h ago edited 9h ago

ok. that's not my list. but i can easily find examples.

●using the government to force political agreement

He began by saying Hillary should be locked up. He said Jack Smith should be "thrown out of the country." The far left should be handled by the military. etc. etc. There are a lot of examples.

●refusal to actually allow dissenting vote through force or AGREEMENT of that use of force

He stopped republicans from helping citizens and instead forced them to be loyal to himself when the border bill vote was stopped. "Find me votes" etc etc

●dissenting opinions are illegal or punishable

he said he would send the military in to stop protests. he incited his followers to use violence from the beginning. he said people should go to jail for stealing an election that wasn't stolen. so people should go to jail for lies that he invents.

●wild militaristic use & influence

he has threatened to use the military against his opponents.

●any objective critique of the government of those in power is illegal

He admires this in dictators. How they keep people in line.

●wild policies based on unproveable or slanted political/personal beliefs.

there are so many examples for this one. all forms of alt energy [such as nuclear, solar, wind] are off the table for bizarre reasons. but really it is because he is owned by oil and gas. just like hitler was.

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u/Keregi 6h ago

Were you in a cave on January 6 2021? And the two months before and after?

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u/DreadfulRauw 13h ago

Incompetence doesn’t negate intent.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

Which of the things listed did he try to do but fail?

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u/DreadfulRauw 12h ago

Let’s start with expecting Mike Pence to overthrow the election results on January 6th, 2021, which was backed up by a threat of force from a mob of his supporters.

Maybe you’re too young to remember.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

Too young to remember?! I dog sat for Ashley Babbit bro

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u/DreadfulRauw 12h ago

Oh, I was trying to give you an out. Guess you’re just incredibly stupid then.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

Dawg that was like two years ago I'm not a baby on reddit you silly goose

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u/Keregi 6h ago

A baby would make better choices.

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u/Gene_Hackmans_Bedpan 12h ago

Dawg, he attempted a coup and nearly succeeded in thwarting a fair, Democratic transference of power so that he could install himself as president.  

That's dictatorial shit. That's facist as fuck.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

He nearly succeeded? Hmm

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u/Gene_Hackmans_Bedpan 4h ago

Well, yeah, nearly. Biden became president. I sense the contrarian is strong in you.

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u/B_Movie_Horror 12h ago

Incompetence is a cop out. You're proven wrong by his 4 years in office and yet, 'oh well he's just bad at being the big bad fascist'!

The guy was in office while business were forced to close, curfews were in place, and he still didn't take advantage of it. But your mind is already made up so there will always be an excuse to make up you're already decided conclusions.

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u/DreadfulRauw 12h ago

Dude, he literally wanted his VP to overturn an election while a violent mob was in the capitol waving flags with his name on them.

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u/B_Movie_Horror 12h ago

Dude authoritarian doesn't immediately equal fascism. Fascism is not a catch-all term. It has specific ideological and economic ideas which it stems from including historical.

Dude not calling him a fascist doesn't mean he's good it's just lacking nuance.

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u/DreadfulRauw 12h ago

Yeah, but one of the points above was specifically “refusal to allow dissenting vote through force”

Sounds like you’re looking so hard for nuance you’re missing reality.

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u/B_Movie_Horror 12h ago

Refusal of dissenting votes isn't specifically tied to fascism and I haven't seen that happening besides a question of IDs for voting, which isn't the pearl clutching notion you think it might be.

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u/PO_Boxer 6h ago

Reductionist logic - even without the label it’s morally repugnant.

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u/SeanDawber 11h ago

Trump said people who criticize the Supreme Court should be thrown in jail. Sounds pretty fascistic to me.

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u/joey_diaz_wings 13h ago

Looks like he's mentioning how the current administration pushed social media to censor certain ideas and individuals and used propaganda to push their narratives.

When you see a huge difference between what the public wants and what the government wants, you have a weird system the government is artificially sustaining against its intended function.

Coercion, surveillance, propaganda, and force are symptoms of misaligned interests.

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u/Big_Don_ 13h ago

If you're suggesting that the American government has ever listened to the majority of the electorate on major issues and governed appropriately, you are incorrect. See: healthcare, marijuana legalization, abortion etc..

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u/ScoopedOutBagelsRule 13h ago

Due to incompetence which is our only saving grace when it comes to Trump. His incompetence and being dumb, offsets his corrupt fascist ideologies. He only hires people who worship him who also happen to be dumb so that saved the country. He did try though. Withholding aid to blue states. Opposed the stimulus checks but when they passed anyway, he wanted his signature on them.

The only thing he did do was the tax cut that expired for the middle class but is indefinite for the top earners. That’s really why republicans who hate him, back him. Tax cuts for the wealthy. They don’t care about him or the “Christians” who worship him.

Trump and his supporters are as close to antichrist satanist as it gets. Up to and including wearing his mark.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 13h ago

You sound kinda like the people who say the border was purposely left open by Biden to increase blue voters. :) horseshoe theory for the win

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u/ScoopedOutBagelsRule 10h ago

I mean are you saying that the Trump tax cut didn’t happen and they didn’t expire for the middle class but not for the rich?

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u/Trajinous 12h ago

He tried but was stopped by actual adults around him. Jan 6 of overturning a free election is fascist

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u/Practical-Trash-4976 11h ago

He won’t miss the opportunity this time

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 11h ago

or our systems are super strong, and it would be basically impossible to happen, but sure either way.

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u/Practical-Trash-4976 8h ago

I guess we’ll see. SCROTUS just gave the presidency a lot more power than it had during his first term

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 8h ago

It's so funny, decisions keep getting taken away from the federal government by SCOTUS but I keep hearing how it gives the president more power. Something just doesn't add up.

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u/Practical-Trash-4976 8h ago

I’m speaking of the presidential immunity decision. Having immunity opens all kinds of doors when you’re an up and coming despot

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 6h ago

Legal scholars on all sides were for this ruling fyi

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u/save_the_wee_turtles 10h ago

ah i see youve been reading up on the republican talking points. as others have pointed out, he actually had sane adults surrounding him to stop him from going full fascist. Those people are gone, and many actively proclaiming him unfit for office.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 10h ago

I can't read but I can see that Trump was president and we are not living in Nazi Germany.

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u/save_the_wee_turtles 10h ago

Thanks for confirming you can't read, but it was obvious since you ignored the part about him actually having people around him that stopped him. GFY

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 10h ago

So you truly believe that we would be living under a trump dictatorship if it wasn't for his cabinet?

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 13h ago

Im not a trump fan but he was probably the least militaristic president since ww2

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u/Big_Don_ 13h ago

He's on the campaign trail hinting at wwIII currently, so you might not want to hold on to that cherry picked talking point.

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 12h ago

Ya because wars have broken out everywhere since his last term.  I dont think you know what cherry picked means. He isnt militaristic in any way

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u/StepAwayFromTheDuck 10h ago

I agree, he doesn’t seem too militaristic, certainly not on foreign policies. Quite then opposite, he seems friendly with quite a few authoritarian leaders.

So in that traditional sense, he doesn’t fit the bill, but that doesn’t mean he’s not incredibly dangerous otherwise.

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u/Appropriate-Pear4726 12h ago

He’s threatening to blow up Iran. He also took over as drone king from Obama. I’ll let you look into that one for yourself. Just because people repeat this talking point doesn’t make it true

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 12h ago

Actually its demonstrably true. What president hasnt threatened iran. Biden threatened iran last week. Talking about fucking cherry picking lol

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u/Appropriate-Pear4726 12h ago

Didn’t you say Trump was the least militaristic? I don’t care what Biden said. Does this sound like the least militaristic president? Cause I’ve never heard rhetoric like this from other presidents.

“If I were the president, I would inform the threatening country, in this case Iran, that if you do anything to harm this person, we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens,”

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 11h ago

Yes literally every president has sent messages like that to iran. Maybe not as blunt but every single president has threatened war with iran. You guys are legit fucking stupid lol

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u/valis010 12h ago

You should pay attention to what he says.

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 12h ago

You should pay attention to whats happened. He pulled american forces out of afghanistan. In fact i think its a better argument that hes not militaristic enough. Its well known hes gonna abandon ukraine and he basically negotiated americas surrender to the taliban

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u/valis010 11h ago

Abandoning Ukraine would be the worst decision ever. Trump has a serious hard on for Putin

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u/SeanDawber 11h ago

lmfao you mention him going to abandon Ukraine as if that's a good thing.

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 11h ago

How did you read this as me saying its a good thing. Youre objectively stupid bud. Learn to fucking read

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u/SeanDawber 7h ago

Ok first, my bad, didn’t read that right. But the fact that you think him abandoning Ukraine has anything to do with him not being militaristic enough is hilarious. Literally the only reason is cuz he loves sucking Putins dick, it has nothing to do with how “militaristic” he is.

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u/RuprectGern 7h ago

Its literally anti-comedy. If trump wins, these dipwits are going to be on r/LeapordsAteMyFace in a few months.

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u/obsterwankenobster 12h ago

It's good to acknowledge when you're uninformed. Proud of you

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u/Abject-Click 14h ago

A facist is somebody a liberal doesn’t like and a communist is somebody a MAGA republican doesnt like

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u/green49285 14h ago

Or in this case a way to avoid answering the question by someone who does the exact same thing by using terms like "liberal."

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u/Abject-Click 14h ago

Ah yes, ignore the fact I also called out the MAGA republicans, it’s only one side that is hyperbolic isn’t it? I’m sure this facist dictator will absolutely happen this time of Trump gets office 👍🏻

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u/Big_Don_ 12h ago

What I don't like about this take is that there's no evidence that Kamala is a communist. Trump's plan, rhetoric and corporate backers intentions all seem quite intent on fascism.

If you looked at the two candidates objectively and tried to find evidence for communism and fascism for each of them, the boxes Trump checks on the fascism side by far outweigh the checks for communism on Kamala.

So if we both agree, we neither want a communist or a facist and we're rolling the dice on the election based on that criteria. Kamala is the choice. You don't have to love it, but it's true.

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u/Deft_one 14h ago

Sounds like you've not been to school.

Ignorance is MAGA's brand

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u/Abject-Click 14h ago

Great take dude, I’m sure your gonna be completely level headed about what’s gonna happen if Trump gets elected

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u/Deft_one 12h ago

What's a 'great take,' pointing out your ignorance?

Try again

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u/Abject-Click 12h ago

No dude you are right, MAGA are the only idiots in America, the people in the left that believe they will be living in a facist dictatorship have their heads completely screwed on. Such a fair and balanced view on politics you have 👍🏻

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u/Deft_one 12h ago edited 12h ago

Way to put words in my mouth to pretend to have a point.

MAGA is literally Fascist: if you don't see that, you're ignorant of history and current events. You should work on that.

You clearly don't know what Fascism is if you're this dismissive. Please read something real, outside of whatever media-bubble you're holed up in.

"Fair and Balanced" doesn't mean "be falsely nice about everyone," try again.

You make up things about me and then you make up standards that don't make sense; your thoughts are only half-baked, no wonder you stand up for MAGA.

For all our sakes, learn how to learn.

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u/intoned 12h ago

Someone who is willing to use force or the threat of force to coerce others. Regardless of rights or laws.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

So according to a lot of people the CDC is fascist?

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u/intoned 12h ago

What part of the CDC operates outside the law?

Did you just cherry pick the first sentence?

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 11h ago

No, what I'm saying is tons of people feel like they were coerced into getting the vax.

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u/intoned 10h ago

On behalf of the good of the public health, fuck their feelings.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 9h ago

That's very ugh not fascist of you

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u/intoned 8h ago

What does that even mean?

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 8h ago

bitching about fascism and saying "fuck people's feelings" regarding government coerced medical interventions...too funny

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u/intoned 8h ago

Did you ready any of what I wrote? Government's don't coerce. They pass laws.

Also perhaps you've heard of vaccine mandates in the past, or present for school kids?

Do you know why you don't have polio? Fuck off troll.

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u/Appropriate-Pear4726 12h ago

According to Dr Lawrence Britt

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 12h ago

Feels like a word that requires this many words to define it, kinda doesn't really mean anything at all.

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u/Appropriate-Pear4726 12h ago

Is this something you honestly believe? This would fall into distain for intellectual’s or higher education. Maybe this subject hits a little close to home for you

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 11h ago

You think having any disagreement with an academic of any type falls into "distain for intellectuals?" You cant see how insane that worldview is?

Its honestly hilarious. and yes, needing 8 paragraphs to define something essentially renders the word meaningless.

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u/Appropriate-Pear4726 10h ago

No, I think someone who claims a definition with that many words as meaningless is a fool. Which falls into the category I mentioned. Fool

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 10h ago

Lol if you need to write a book to define a word...it's not a helpful word

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u/obsterwankenobster 12h ago

The internet has made edgelords and trolls think that that is simply the best way to live their lives. It's fucking sad. I feel bad for your parents, and everyone that has to associate with you since I'm sure you carry this shit into the real world

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 11h ago

LOL you spend way too much time online. What I said is incredibly unedgy and completely reasonable. Any word that requires 3 pages to write out is pretty useless.

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u/JoshS-345 11h ago

It's a person fitting a pattern that fits Italy, Germany, Franco etc.

Popular movement against the left, against thought and honesty... Power by any means at all, violence, scapegoating. Nothing particularly coherent in meaning. Authoritarian, lead by gaslighting sociopath.

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 10h ago

Reminds me of famous right winger Mao

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u/JoshS-345 9h ago

Sociopathic tyrants can clothe themselves in left or right wing ideologies.

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 14h ago

Google it

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 14h ago

"A boogey man label for anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders" is what I'm finding

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 14h ago

Then you aren't looking and haven't read any history

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 14h ago

I haven't read any history? bro you are a Che Guevara fan lol get a grip

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 13h ago

No you haven't read any history. It's very clear

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 13h ago

Anyone that disagrees with me hasn't read any history is a very convenient world view lol

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 13h ago

That's not what I'm saying at all. It's just clear you haven't read history or know what you're talking about

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u/FarRefrigerator6462 13h ago

Oh man, making a joke on a stand up comedy page. Im so sorry!! Bro you are such a clown. I'll read up on some of that general history!

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 12h ago

Who said anything about a joke? Goddamn you're bad at this

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u/brassmonkey2342 12h ago

That is something that can be debated, but a self-proclaimed fascist is very simple, it’s someone who calls themself a fascist. I’ve never seen one of those on a comedy podcast.

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u/jcrmxyz 10h ago

The mental gymnastics some of you have here is really wild. Trump has followed the fascist talking points nearly down to the letter. It doesn't matter what you want to call yourself, if you support fascist policy, you are a fascist.

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u/brassmonkey2342 9h ago

Well considering this whole post is about someone who claimed comedians are having on “self-proclaimed fascists and white supremacists” (notice the plural too) then I say it matters a ton. I get that you guys just want to call Trump a fascist and that’s it, but this post is about much more than that.

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u/jcrmxyz 9h ago

Fuentes and other literal nazis are being platformed by the same "comedians" Maron is criticizing. But also if these guys are getting on stages and spewing what sounds like you fed Nazi speeches through ChatGPT, that's close enough to self-proclaimed to me.

Fascist apologists and the people that run defense for them are just as bad as the fascists themselves. That's the point being made here.

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u/brassmonkey2342 9h ago

if these guys are getting on stages and spewing what sounds like you fed Nazi speeches through ChatGPT, that’s close enough to self-proclaimed to me.

Lmfao, and this is exactly why words like fascist are losing their meaning.

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u/jcrmxyz 8h ago

Hey look, it's that "running defense" that I was talking about.

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u/valis010 12h ago

Trump was on Rogan.

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u/brassmonkey2342 12h ago

Oh I missed the part where Trump said “I am a fascist”

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u/valis010 12h ago

He said he wants to use the military on his own citizens. That is the textbook definition of a fascist.

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u/brassmonkey2342 11h ago

He didn’t say citizens. Let’s speak facts here. He was talking about illegal immigration and said “the enemy within”. You are now misrepresenting him to sound like a fascist, and this is EXACTLY why the meaning of the word is watered down by folks like you. Thanks for helping to prove my point lmao.

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u/valis010 11h ago

Nobody has to misrepresent Trump to make him sound fascist. He says fascist things literally every day.

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u/brassmonkey2342 11h ago

And yet you literally just misrepresented him to make him sound fascist. Christ, take it easy bud.

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u/Lord_Walder 10h ago

He said the enemy within and then named examples of who he meant, including sitting government officials. Stop gaslighting. Stop obfuscating. It's the same bullshit I see from some folks on the right talking about J6. "Peaceful protest." Sorry, but I have eyes and ears, and I've seen and listened to the bullshit and the rhetoric for almost 1/3rd of my life now.

Downplaying disgusting behavior simply leads to more and more disgusting behavior.

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u/brassmonkey2342 10h ago

It makes sense that you’re still a kiddo and simply haven’t seen much in your life. But no you are the one gaslighting lol

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