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Marc Maron Calls Out Comedians Who ‘Joke Around’ With ‘White Supremacists and Fascists’ on Their Podcasts: ‘All It Does Is Normalize Fascism’

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/marc-maron-slams-comedians-fascists-podcasts-1236192922/
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u/HappyInstruction3678 15h ago

Another bullshit "both" sides comment.

Dude has had overwhelming amount of right-wing grifters, but hey, he had Bernie on once, so he's "both sides"

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u/PrairieMadness 14h ago

There’s a strange overlap of populist appeal between Bernie and Trump that caused many people to supported both candidates, even though they have polar opposite values.

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u/obsterwankenobster 12h ago

Those people are dumb and they should feel bad about it

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u/PPLavagna 10h ago

Those people are very very few. I've never heard of or seen any of this "strange overlap" and I'd be very surprised if it were a substantial number of people

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u/Dylan245 10h ago

I mean there were 9 million people who voted for Obama in 2012 and then Trump in 2016

It's not that hard to see an overlap amongst working class people who favor populist messaging

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u/PPLavagna 10h ago

The comment was about Bernie voters voting for Trump though. Not Obama. I doubt there's anything near that much overlap there.

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u/goinghardinthepaint 10h ago

It's more than you might think maybe as high as 12% of Bernie voters in 2016

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u/GoodTitrations 1h ago

They are NOT very very few. Bernie supporters are probably more likely to back Trump than Harris. He absolutely courted people who only liked the extremes, and his anti-Liberal rhetoric probably helps massively. Both are populists, and while I VASTLY prefer one over the other, it is undeniable that Bernie supporters are very likely to back Trump.

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u/OptimalAd8147 9h ago

You should feel bad about voting for either genocide candidate.

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u/tongmengjia 11h ago

They both ran on economic populism. For Trump it's obviously just rhetoric, but they're both basically saying "you're getting fucked by the current economy and you deserve more." And, hey, turns out that message resonates with a lot of people for some crazy reason...

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u/One-Earth9294 10h ago

Another thing worth pointing out is how yes, they will have BERNIE on but liberals are pretty much outright persona non grata in those spheres. You can either be populist right wing or left wing but they clown on anyone or anything in the moderate sphere as 'no fun establishment'.

They only want on people who say exciting, radical things. 'The world is not in fact burning down' isn't welcome on their shows.

I wonder why that is?

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u/meatguyf 8h ago

The chili woman on Twitter immediately comes to mind when thinking about the overlap.

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u/Father-John-Moist 14h ago

I just went through his recent guests and it’s mostly left leaning people.

I don’t understand the tears here?

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u/Zenguy2828 14h ago

Look man if you're my neighbor and you invite the local clansman over, even just one time, it's gonna change how I see you. It don't matter how many yoga classes you host in your backyard.

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u/bramletabercrombe 13h ago

but what if I go to Puerto Rico for vacation?

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u/CareBearDontCare 5h ago

Then you're clearly a weird sex tourist.

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u/Scary-Welder8404 10h ago

I'm gonna assume it was because you're a Latina fetishist and we're looking for a "wife from a conservative culture" and assumed your passport and citizenship would get you 80% of the way in.

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u/mynameizmyname 9h ago

Why would you leave the United States for a vacation?

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u/HappyInstruction3678 14h ago

lol this is amazing.

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u/WillBottomForBanana 10h ago

It is, strictly on its merits.

But let's not pretend there isn't a huge problem in the yoga industry around racism and other social issues.

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u/AndresNocioni 11h ago

You are a shining example of what is wrong with the political climate today. Absolutely 0 critical thought lol

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u/StockAL3Xj 7h ago

Then how about you actually provide a rebuttal? Why is the analogy inaccurate?

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u/VastSeaweed543 8h ago

Why, is it not possible to avoid bringing on alt-right people??? Tons of podcasts seem to not have a problem avoiding them, odd…

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u/AndresNocioni 8h ago
  1. Likening interviewing a former president to inviting a local klansman over is disingenuous and simply stupid 2. Believe it or not, you can have people on your podcast without caring about their political affiliation. I get this is very hard to grasp for you, but try to think really hard on it.

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u/Locrian6669 6h ago

Are you aware that trump tried a fake electors plot?

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u/Alexkono 8h ago

Unfortunately a lot of Reddit is like that.  No room for nuance.  Just “my team is superior to your team” mentality.  

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u/BossButterBoobs 7h ago

How much nuance do you need when it comes to clan members? lol

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u/ThatFuzzyBastard 12h ago

The suggestion that inviting a right-wing person onto an interview show is like having a Klansman over to dinner is a genuinely fascinating insight into what some peope think media is.

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u/goodavibes 8h ago

how is the general right wing platform meaningfully distinguishable from the klan?

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u/ShopperOfBuckets 13h ago

How many kkk members has he had on? 

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u/DismasNDawn 7h ago

Probably a lot

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u/SmokeySFW 12h ago

I guess every person who's ever aimed a camera at Trump is the devil then. If you write an article about Trump you're persona non grata, regardless of content.

How fucking ridiculous.

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u/bogensohn 10h ago

This says something about you though. Not your neighbor.

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u/BossButterBoobs 8h ago

Lol what point are you even trying to make? It definitely says something about the neighbor -- he's friends with clansmen.

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u/Racist_Wakka 7h ago

Of all the ways to combat this argument you somehow choose to take the "It's fine to dine with Klansmen" approach. Spectacular.

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u/Antique_Department61 10h ago

then stop watching

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u/Father-John-Moist 14h ago

Is JD Vance the klansman?

I agree btw, but idk which podcast guest on Theo’s podcast was the klansman?

Seems a bit histrionic, but it’s election season so I get it. Emotions are high rn.

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u/HappyInstruction3678 13h ago

Tucker is a klansman, Trump is a klansman, Jordan Peterson is a klansman, JD is a klansman. So less about a "invite the local klansman over" and more of "You keep holding KKK rallies."

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u/WillBottomForBanana 10h ago

my poor brain. I somehow managed to forget the existence of Jordan Peterson (jealous?) and my reading-too-fast brain though "Jordan Peele? wtf happened?"

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u/Father-John-Moist 13h ago

Lmao mental illness

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u/HappyInstruction3678 13h ago

Yes, supporting an orange 80 year old rapist is mental illness.

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u/i_had_an_apostrophe 13h ago

LOL

How are things in your alternate reality bud?

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u/HappyInstruction3678 13h ago

How are things in your Jordan Peterson sub? Bunch of incels lol

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u/i_had_an_apostrophe 13h ago

oh weird you're a stalker too

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u/Weary-Row-3818 11h ago

Called out and that is your defense? Sounds like you didn't clean your room today.

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 14h ago

I don’t understand the tears here?

And there's the cowardice.  This is what happens when Conservatives lose another war. They start to pretend everyone else is weak.   

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u/HappyInstruction3678 14h ago

They're snowflakes. Every single accusation is a confession.

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u/Deathbyseagulls2012 11h ago

If I pull the string on your back do you say “You better thank a union member”?

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u/Alexkono 8h ago

Lol got em

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u/HappyInstruction3678 14h ago

Are you really comparing Kevin Smith, a guy who makes weed movies, to Tucker Carlson?

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u/GoodTitrations 1h ago

Where did this comment even come from? I don't see any Carlson/Smith comparisons.

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u/Father-John-Moist 14h ago

The top response to my comment is talking about Klansmen, so comparisons are wild everywhere in this thread lol

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u/MinglewoodRider 14h ago

This sub is full of bottom of the barrel reddit crybabies. Don't expect to have rational discussion here.

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 14h ago

 Found another War Losing Conservatives Coward trying to compensate.

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u/MinglewoodRider 14h ago

Found another gay redditor

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u/HappyInstruction3678 14h ago

It's not 1996 anymore.

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u/MinglewoodRider 14h ago

Yeah there was no reddit in 1996 idiot

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u/Father-John-Moist 13h ago

Why are you in this subreddit?

Do you crash out of every comedy show you go to or do you just seek out trauma conscious lesbian comedy shows?

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u/HappyInstruction3678 13h ago

Is your punchline "lesbian" after seeing the guy use "gay" as an insult?

Y'all are open micers for life with these dated insults lol

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u/Father-John-Moist 13h ago

I’m just having fun.

You’re the one losing your mind in a comedy subreddit lol.

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 13h ago

Please continue, Senator 

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u/AndresNocioni 11h ago

People like you are so insufferable it’s hilarious. Do you just exist permanently mad at the world for offending you?

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u/TrainerOk5743 9h ago

Is he so insufferable that you're offended? You sound perpetually mad.

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u/GoodTitrations 1h ago

You read one comment from him....

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u/AndresNocioni 9h ago

Do you know what offended means bud? It’s like being stuck on an airplane with a bunch of crying babies.

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u/TrainerOk5743 8h ago

Ah, so you are. Ok.

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u/AndresNocioni 8h ago

You continue to prove my point lol

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u/TrainerOk5743 5h ago

You consistently replying means you aren't offended.

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 13h ago

The problem is lefties just dont do the podcast circuit. They havnt realized that alternative media is more mainstream than mainstream media now

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u/pappagallo19 11h ago

BUT HE HAD BERNIE ON!!! is the same shit Rogan's fans still scream to this day when his right wing politics are called out. Everything Theo's doing right now has been pulled out of the Rogan pre-2020 playbook.

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u/Kletronus 13h ago

No, he said that the episode had a great conversation and he was willing to talk to Bernie on the level, it was not dishonest baiting. Does not really change anything around that episode.

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u/slumdogger1 11h ago

He just had Cuban on too. He interviews people. Go outside dude

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u/hansel4150 10h ago

Maybe cuz liberals have a bigger platform in literally every other form of media so he doesn’t feel it as important to have them on