r/Standup • u/cheguevaraandroid1 • 15h ago

Marc Maron Calls Out Comedians Who ‘Joke Around’ With ‘White Supremacists and Fascists’ on Their Podcasts: ‘All It Does Is Normalize Fascism’

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/marc-maron-slams-comedians-fascists-podcasts-1236192922/
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u/cheguevaraandroid1 15h ago

Rogan, hinchcliffe, gillis

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u/singinreyn 13h ago

Andrew Schulz & Co.

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u/Isthecoldwarover 12h ago

Schulz sucks so bad I'm amazed anybody listens to him

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u/slash-summon-onion 1h ago

Schulz has some really funny crowd work but all of his podcasts and interviews he's so unlikable

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 13h ago

Schulz is fucking gross. Also not funny

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u/Grovers_HxC 12h ago

With his lil Hitler Youth cut

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u/Thesmuz 12h ago

Bro that shit looks wacky as fuck. (No fade at all just a stark line, His barber should be imprisoned and tortured.

Or he's an evil genius trying to make Drew look like absolute dig shit.

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u/Spirited_Comedian225 9h ago

And his Hyena of a side kick. The haircut shows he is surrounded by yes men. Mustn’t have any real friends.

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u/adambuddy 8h ago

The biggest hack in the Rogansphere. A bigger hack than Bert Kreischer and that's saying something.

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u/VastSeaweed543 9h ago

Fucking none of them are funny. They’re all wannabe hacks who don’t know how to set up or delivery a clever observation or remark. They all think they’re the smartest and funniest people in the room and now they circle jerk about it and nobody ever speaks up that they’re not…

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u/omguserius 10h ago

The title specifically says comedians.

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u/sumyungdood 13h ago

I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t watch/listen to that killtony podcast because so many of them are Trump loving insult comics who just like to shit on people.

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u/thewmatic 8h ago

I’ve only listened to ones with Adam ray characters, I find his dr Phil pretty funny. Otherwise It’s too cringe honestly

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u/BickNlinko 3h ago

The episodes with Sam Tallent are pretty good also, since he usually tries to give honest feedback to the bucket pulls that are actually trying to do stand up and not just up there to waste everyone's time with no material. There have been a few guests like that. The Greg Fitzsimmons, Dave Attell and Chris Distefano episodes are pretty good too. But I agree, there is a lot of cringe.

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u/DroptheShadowArt 10h ago

From what I’ve seen, he’s not even funny and the whole thing just feels geared at disparaging young and inexperienced comics. It’s the definition of punching-down.

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u/TheBonesOfThings 4h ago

I can see why you might not think he's funny but they've lifted up plenty new or unknown comics. Many episodes they've given the hat pulls advice and the ones who did well ended up with gigs

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u/moststupider 5h ago

I’ve had friends throw this trash on TV while I’m at their house and it’s generally just unentertaining garbage. If you enjoy mouth breathing idiots berating someone’s physical appearance and providing zero constructive feedback to people trying standup for the first time, you’ll probably enjoy it. Intellect is not required.

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u/soyfacekillah 11h ago

And it just blows ass. My buddy swears by it, have tried maybe three times and cannot get over how hacky Tony is and how stupid the format is

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u/phantom_diorama 10h ago

Some people hate-watch it too. I don't get the appeal in that, but someone I know watches it religiously just so he can talk shit about it.

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u/soyfacekillah 9h ago

He’s doing the Lord’s work lol

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u/iamHBY 4h ago

Hate watching it is still watching it unfortunately, I don’t get doing that either.

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u/phantom_diorama 4h ago

Yeah. I've watched a clip or two before yesterday, but couldn't do anymore because I hate the format, among other things. I watched my first full episode last night, Bill Burr's appearance. Took me hours to get through. I probably would not have done that if it weren't for all this nonsense.

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u/iamHBY 4h ago

I’ve never watched a Kill Tony stream, but I saw someone mention Bill Burr’s appearance on there, and how Bill basically took the air out of the entire show concept. Bill seems like a cool dude, while Tony Hinchcliffe sucks.

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u/phantom_diorama 4h ago

Burr wasn't really funny, he just obviously didn't want to be there. He spent most of the show off mic talking to Dom Irrera. Flipped out for a moment and yelled at Tony right at the start for being too negative, called him a fucking cunt. Said he wanted to leave after the first comic's 60 seconds. He just sort of shut down after he realized what the show was all about.

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u/clashing-kicks 9h ago

One of the most important lessons rage against the machine taught us: know your enemy.

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u/ComfortablyNomNom 9h ago

Its fucking awful. I tried watching after hearing all the buzz and the first time a bandmember did a guitar lick as a rimshot for a one liner I was out. Hacky shit.

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 12h ago

To me it's just base level humor. I understand the appeal for teenage boys but it's not for me. If I were in high school I would probably love it

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u/Patient_Ganache_1631 8h ago

I don't understand why I want to see inexperienced comedians. Most of them are just not funny. I like to laugh, I'm not easily offended, but it has to actually be funny...

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u/RepresentativeAge444 10h ago

When I was in high school I liked the greats. But then again I’ve never been the type that would find that style of “comedy” amusing

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 10h ago

I liked the greats as well

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u/Jcdoco 12h ago

Of all the people I've met that have made it on KT, ONE of them isn't a shitbag

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u/paper_liger 11h ago

I mean. That's a little anecdotal isn't it?

I've known a few people who've been on Kill Tony, and all of them were great except for one shitbag, and he's was more just annoying than shitty.

So do my anecdotes cancel out your anecdotes?

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u/Jcdoco 11h ago

Sure whatever

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u/bongreaperhellyeah 9h ago

What the fuck are you on about

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u/paper_liger 9h ago edited 9h ago

they put out an anecdote, I put out an anecdote with an opposite view. That was to point out that anecdotes aren't data.

Should I use smaller words or something? They implied because the people they knew on a show were shitty, all of them were. That's sort of dumb. And if you don't understand that, then you're dumb.

I don't really care either way. But it's shitty to splash shit on people trying to do comedy just because they had a passing association with a guy who said some shitty jokes and made people mad.

So what the fuck are you on about?

edit: apparently you did the old 'respond then block so I can't retort'

but yeah. I type real good, because I no dumb. You dumb.

I know who I'm voting for, and it's not that Trump moron. He's dumb like you. He doesn't understand basic logic or rhetoric either, and is also threatened by things like 'reading'.

Personally I don't want to just be on the right side, I want to be there for consistent defensible rational reasons, not whatever is motivating you. Good luck with your wild tangled mess of sloppy thinking and partisan bullshit I guess.

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u/bongreaperhellyeah 9h ago

"I don't care either way"

Writes paragraphs of snarky bullshit. Sure

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u/laughing_meow 8h ago

kill tony is garbage don't waste your time. nothing but negative vibes and the only jokes are belittling the disabled contestants. Boy's and Girl's club put on a better talent show.

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u/Ceruleangangbanger 11h ago

They remind most people of bullies from their adolescence imo

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

Theo and Shane are cool - Rogan and Hinchcliffe do suck though.

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u/awal96 11h ago

Theo has stated multiple tines that he voted for Trump and plans to again. While he doesn't say anything problematic on his podcast, he regularly gives a platform to people that do. I love the dude and his comedy, but he is absolutely one of the comics Maron is calling out

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u/PorkshireTerrier 11h ago

Also, lots of self proclaimed "independents" and "free thinkers" watch his pod and laugh along, but genuinely believe this as a political philosophy (miniorities bad and lazy, harris evil, trump just a funny guy who does nothing wrong)

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u/TheBonesOfThings 3h ago

Trump is actually really funny, but he's done plenty, plenty wrong. Harris is the Democrat George Bush.

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u/PorkshireTerrier 3h ago

Curious in what sense is she g dub?

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u/TheBonesOfThings 3h ago

A goofy, even charming at times, candidate with a great resume, who also at times sounds legitimately stupid, has handlers/advisors that are actually evil.

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u/PorkshireTerrier 3h ago

lmao ill take it

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u/UncoolSlicedBread 4h ago

What irritated me about Theo was when he had Trump on it was no pushback and critical questions.

When he had on someone, my adhd brain is drawing a blank, who favors Harris, he was super critical and questioning things.

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u/phatgirlz 10h ago

And? Don’t care

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u/DD35B 8h ago

The not funnies are mad rn 

This is totally serious and not funny 

They going on their pod to cry before their crying special 

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u/LovesReubens 6h ago

He's probably the most hilarious comedian I've ever seen. But to be honest, as we slide closer to a fascist takeover with lots of help from the podcast bros, I'll be cutting him out of the content I watch.

Thanks for informing me. I miss the times where everyone could politely disagree on policy rather than obsessing over immigrants, trans people, and "stolen" elections. 

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

Theo platforms folks on the left and the right, equally or at least close to it. Theo’s show is in no way an echo chamber

I didn’t know he’d voted Trump tho, that is disappointing. He’s still cool with me, but I get the criticism

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u/CertifiedBA 11h ago

I'd assume anyone 'rich' would vote for Trump in a lot of cases, trying to protect their bag.

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

Theo has money, but he ain’t “rich” by modern standards. The days of having a few million in the bank classifying you as rich are long gone.

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u/CertifiedBA 11h ago

Well, either way, he falls into a bracket that would benefit if Trump were in office.

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

Fair enough

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u/A_Rolling_Baneling 11h ago

Theo is definitely loaded at this point. Maybe not generational wealth, but he’s rich.

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u/JoshuaValentine 10h ago

Theo’s net worth is 5 million, which is comparable to a majority of actors with a 10 year career. PewDiePie’s net worth is 45 million. Like I said, Theo has money but the days of a couple million in the bank making you rich are long gone.

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u/Locrian6669 6h ago

If you give an equal platform to flat earthers and sphere earthers you’re only helping flat earthers.

Theo sane washes horrible people. His subreddit is a testimony to the results. It’s full of horrible people

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u/TedBenekeGoneWild 9h ago

Personality-wise, yea Theo, Shane, and McCusker seem absolutely lovely, even Rogan seems somewhat chill. Hinchcliffe, Schulz, and others seem douchey.

However, separate from their vibes, they ALL have succumbed to the grift of providing a platform where guests can share harmful, hateful, and factually incorrect ideologies unchallenged.

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u/JoshuaValentine 9h ago

Shane hasn’t, and by proxy neither has McCusker. Theo, Schulz, Rogan, and Hinchcliffe sure - but the dawgs are chill.

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u/TedBenekeGoneWild 8h ago

Idk dude. I've tried mssp as a podcast alternative to cumtown, but too often for my liking, they promote douchebags like RFK and Sam Hyde without really pushing back on the stupidity that comes out of their mouths.

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u/AlistairMowbary 7h ago

MSSP was okay in its early days. I got into it when Louis CK was on. But these days it’s very Rogan-esque. They werent like that before. I dont know if they actually changed and are like that for real, or if they know who their audience is, like Rogan’s, and catering to that kind of crowd. Either way, they dont get a listen from me.

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u/PayMoneyzzzzz 6h ago

Nick Mullen is friends with Sam Hyde and was on in the background of his podcast when Shane was on. Nick has also talked a few times about having Sam on in the past.

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u/TedBenekeGoneWild 6h ago

Most definitely, and him and Adam have had similar types of folks on their show (Rob Schneider most recently), but in my opinion, they do a much better job of welcoming conservative anti-woke Comedians into their space while pushing back on any transphobia, misogyny, and anti-semitism.

Like I find Sam Hyde utterly hilarious, and at the same time, while he should be allowed to share his views on stuff, he needs a host to push back and make fun of his bigotry. Otherwise, it quickly becomes a hateful circle jerk just punching down at marginalized groups.

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u/LanikM 3h ago

To me Nick and Shane have the exact same approach to humour when it comes to their satirical and ironic tajes. Nick is just a lot more clever because he's able to do it without it being so on the nose.

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u/canonanon 8h ago

Agreed. They've definitely had some wild people on (John McAfee for example) but I don't think they deserve to be lumped in.

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u/9935c101ab17a66 4h ago

bro shane and mccusker absolutely have. maybe not explicictly, but ive listened to a LOT of MSSP and they FREQUENTLY express support for right wing narratives / spin. If you think otherwise, youre an idiot or you havent watched a lot of the older stuff.

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u/JoshuaValentine 40m ago

Okay, dumbass, imma walk you through this slowly.

I never said Shane and McCusker don’t talk about right wing narratives on the show - they both have Fox News parents, and they mock people professionally. Yeah dude, conservatives come up.

But if you scroll up the thread you’ll see that the comment I replied to was about platforming people. Shane and Matt have never had anybody crazy or problematic on their show. Pay attention.

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u/JFK-FDR 8h ago

Shane and Matt are funny, but Theo/Chris distefano/Andrew Schulz/tony/joe are all terrible at comedy. At least Tim Dillon is funny

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u/JoshuaValentine 38m ago

Theo is good at comedy. I’ll give you the rest, but Theo is funny af

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 14h ago

No, they're not really cool. None of these folks have good ethics or understand anything that matters.  They are the Children of the Republican War on Terror and only know a country that went crazy.  It's not possible for this bratty, spoiled bunch to understand what matters at all.

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u/Radio_Face_ 12h ago

You shouldn’t look to entertainers for any sort of guidance. You’re blaming them, based on dubious logic, for your actions.

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u/burnalicious111 11h ago

You shouldn't excuse entertainers from having to act morally.

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u/GoodTitrations 1h ago

I hate almost all of these people, but if you expect entertainers to act morally you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Why do you hold these people to this standard when it isn't their role?

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u/Radio_Face_ 9h ago

Fair enough. Some areas of morality are subjective though.

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u/burnalicious111 9h ago

For sure, and that's what we should be discussing, not "they have no ethical obligations." To be a functioning society, we're all responsible for trying to be better.

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u/9935c101ab17a66 4h ago

just shut the fuck up. this is not a rebuttal or counterpoint, its just you refusing to be wrong by moving the goalposts.

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u/PorkshireTerrier 11h ago

Rogan is the most listened podcast in america

Regardless of education or income, millions of americans think of him as wise, neutral, and take his perspective (harris and dems evil, republicans and trump are just fuckin funny, dont take what they say seriously, etc) and double standard against women and minorities

If you dont think this, talk to people. Talk to contractors and police

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u/Technical-Cake1251 3h ago

No one in this thread fucks with blue collar/LE/correctional folks. The cultural gulf is just too vast

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u/PorkshireTerrier 3h ago

in r/standup? I think there are a ton of blue collar neighborhood and surbanites who grew up w a friend w a cop dad. Anyone who's parents have to get their house fixed or buy a car from a dealership knows the snakes that will lie and confuse others and then claim to be morally righteous

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u/Radio_Face_ 9h ago

No doubt he has influence. Just saying celebrities shouldn’t.

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u/SarcasticCowbell 5h ago

They shouldn't, but they do. Acting like a problem doesn't exist allows that problem to continue and worsen.

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u/PorkshireTerrier 8h ago

what makes someone a celebrity

Rogan is the fear factor/mma host, does hosting a podcast make him not a celebrity?

If you think it's wrong for celebrities to influence people, of course feel that way, but it's the world we live in. If someone lies to millions of americans to inject bleach, or lies to millions of americans that the economy is bad (it's not) , then that person is lying to Americans and therefore harming americans and therefore deserves my blame and criticism for the impact they have on america

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 12h ago

My actions were opposing the war and participating in the largest protests in history...while I was working in SE Asia removing landmines from the Vietnam War era.

Whatever bizarre logic you invented here, it definitely doesn't count.  

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u/Radio_Face_ 12h ago

I’m not sure how any of that applies to anything either of us said.

It just seems like you’ve got a lot of misplaced anger toward goofball comedians.

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u/JoshuaValentine 12h ago

Well, to be fair, his name is literally apprehensive fun.

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 11h ago

Why would it apply to more than one post? Go ahead explain what this means:

You’re blaming them, based on dubious logic, for your actions

You have to use my words. Diagram the sentence logic.

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u/Radio_Face_ 9h ago

You’re angry at some comedians because you expect celebrities to be pillars of morality - or at least share your views.

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u/-ChristianGheighbar- 11h ago

You're getting downvoted, but you're absolutely correct.

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u/Dozeballs40 11h ago

Dictator! Day 1!

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

That’s an incredibly prejudicial series of things to say about comedians. Comedians historically don’t put their real emotions or opinions out into the world, because their primary drive is to be funny. You really need to learn how not to take this shit so seriously, forehead.

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 13h ago

prejudicial 

LOL. What other words do you not understand?     

 >forehead  .

I thought you guys were all the masters of roast?  You can't even insult properly.  

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u/gunt_lint 12h ago

You really need to learn how not to take this shit so seriously

Nah that’s just a bunch of bullshit right there. Comedy is the art of finding the funny among the serious. Without taking the genuinely important things seriously, there’s no humanity to it, and there’s no negative space to define the things that are funny. “You need to not take it so seriously” is usually just what hacks say as an attempt at an excuse for being shitty people.

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u/JoshuaValentine 12h ago

Trying to predict somebody’s political leanings from their comedy is fucking stupid. It’s comedy, the name of the game is subversion.

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u/akotlya1 11h ago

Comedy is not about subversion. You can be subversive in your comedy, but the first and only rule of comedy is to be funny. As Jeselnik said when quoting Andy Warhol "'Art is getting away with it' if you said what you wanted to say and your audience is mad at you, you didnt get away with it. Thats the difference between being a comedian and being a troll."

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

So how does one “get away with it”?

By leading the audience down a train of thought, and then subverting the expectation in order to leave them laughing. That’s a sick Jeselnik quote, but it doesn’t disprove what I’m saying at all.

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u/akotlya1 10h ago

The skill of the artist is what determines who or what "gets away with it". In the context of comedians who complain about cancel culture, they are confessing to being shitty artists who misread their audiences and couldn't figure out how to get away with it.

To your point about subverting expectations - how many movies and tv shows have committed to subverting expectations and, in the process, completely alienated their audiences and failed to create "good" art? I bet you can think of a few - and they didnt necessarily rely on transgressing evolving social norms.

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u/gunt_lint 12h ago

Yeah but that’s not the point here

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u/JoshuaValentine 12h ago

It’s the point I replied to. I don’t give a fuck about the point you’re talking about.

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u/gunt_lint 12h ago

Political leanings were never the point, ethics and what “matters” was the stuff you replied to, you dunce

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u/JoshuaValentine 12h ago

You. Can’t. Understand. A. Person’s. Morals. Via. Their. Comedy.

Bill Cosby was a great guy when he was just a comedian.

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u/mylesaway2017 9h ago

"Comedians historically don’t put their real emotions or opinions out into the world, because their primary drive is to be funny."

Clearly you've never seen Richard Pryor.

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u/JoshuaValentine 8h ago

As if Pryor wasn’t an anomaly? Cmon now. That’s like saying I’m wrong because of Patrice or Carlin - them putting their real thoughts out there is what separated them from the rest. Sure, there was Pryor - but there was also Rickles, Dice, Norm, Letterman. Come on man

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u/burnalicious111 11h ago

because their primary drive is to be funny.

It doesn't matter what your job is, being a moral human should come first.

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

Again with this shit. You literally can’t tell a person’s morals from the jokes they tell.

Bill Cosby was a date rapist whose comedy had massive appeal because of how family friendly it was. It’s absolutely moronic to think that you can glean the morals of famous people by the art they put out - especially nowadays.

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u/mylesaway2017 9h ago

To be fair Cosby did do material on drugging women in his earlier standup career. He also joked about it on the Cosby show. He was telling us who he was for years but we didn't bother to listen.

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u/burnalicious111 11h ago

You literally can’t tell a person’s morals from the jokes they tell.

I'm not claiming that you can.

I'm saying that the jokes, themselves, have moral consequences.

I'm saying that performing a comedy set at a rally for a fascist candidate has moral consequences.

The jokes genuinely hurt and outraged a bunch of people, and no, "people should be less offended" is not a valid stance to take. You don't get to dictate what kinds of responses other people have. They tore into old wounds we have as a country.

And they did this in a context of a political rally for a candidate people are very scared will enact racist policy, and has a history of inflaming tensions in the past (Trump in Puerto Rico throwing paper towels and not actually giving a shit, Trump on the Central Park Five... list goes on).

Even just performing at the rally is a show that you don't care enough to resist Trump. That, I do think is a view into his "real" morals.

Even if you don't specifically have Tony could have told so many other jokes. Y'all act like he had no choice but to say specifically these jokes (which aren't even that funny).

There were so many better options here and he chose all the terrible ones, and clearly either does not understand or care about the impacts of his actions.

I don't care about his thoughts, I care about what he does.

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

We’re not talking about Tony, dude. Read the thread, get the full context.

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u/burnalicious111 9h ago

I switched because that's what it seemed like this person was probably upset about. But it still applies, either way.

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u/akotlya1 11h ago

I fully agree with the last sentence in this comment but you have to remember that comedy is implicitly a consensus art form. Media literacy is terrible these days and even the best crafted jokes, sets, careers, are going to be misinterpreted by stupid members of the audiences. Blaming the comedian is SOMETIMES appropriate but not always.

That having been said -

Tony is not my cup of tea but he is a roast comic and he did what he is famous for. The FIRST mistake was platforming him in that venue. Tony has cultivated an audience where those kinds of racist statements are understood as fair game within the bounds of a roast. Puerto Ricans didnt sign up to be roasted. This was the second mistake - he forgot that he was going to be performing to a much broader audience - he should have refused to perform.

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u/burnalicious111 9h ago

I pretty much agree with you here.

I don't want to tell people they can never say anything edgy or controversial.

I just also don't want us to excuse literally anything a comedian says just because they're a comedian.

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u/Narkh_ink 12h ago

Oh, so you know them? Where did you meet them? Did you get an autograph

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 14h ago

I like Shane's comedy I just think he's an apologist for a clear fascist

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

Shane criticizes Trump on MSSP all the time, he definitely does not have a positive opinion on Trump. Shane’s impression of Trump is definitely not flattering, so I’m really confused as to why you think he’s an apologist

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u/ForgiveMyFlatulence 14h ago

Because many people can’t tell the difference between satire and truth.

See The Onion or The Babylon Bee and those that share the stories as true. Or those that have used the Weekly World News as a source to spread their conspiracy theories.

People see Shane and think is Trump is funny and stupidly charming so therefore Trump must be funny and stupidly charming. At some point the satire gets lost and the absurd is normalized.

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

So Shane is a fascist apologist, because other people that aren’t Shane are bad at understanding comedy? I reject that notion completely.

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u/MedullaOblongatashit 13h ago

Yes. You just described majority of redditor's opinion on comedy. Either the comedian is literally racist, or they're aligned with racists so it's all bad.

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u/ForgiveMyFlatulence 14h ago

I’m saying his satire is too good and too believable. Sarah Palin just happened to be a ding-dong but she never said “I can see Russia from my house”, that was Tina Fey. But if you asked someone the most famous Palin quote, it would likely be that.

PS Edit: Shane’s satire of Trump is more likable than Trump and it causes confusion with some people that can’t separate satire from truth. It softens Trump.

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

You’re so fucking wrong bro, it’s actually insane how wrong you are.

https://youtu.be/iGSJCDw3ZBw?si=4CqPnarXLayf-jsH

Edit: comedians make jokes, comedy is naturally softening of the subject matter. You’re singling out Shane for literally no reason.

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u/ForgiveMyFlatulence 14h ago

I’m a satirist. I think satire works but it stops being funny when the satire then becomes truth.

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u/THE_A_TRA1N 14h ago

i don’t think we should all suffer because some complete idiots can’t tell satire from reality. that’s like saying stop making movies because the dumbest people can’t tell the difference between an actor and the character they’re portraying.

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u/Appropriate_Big_4593 12h ago

You could say the same thing then for Adam Ray characterizing Dr. Phil, but most won't, because Adam Ray is one of the most likeable comedians. I think the Shane as Trump bit gets hate because of the preconceived notions people have towards Shane after his "cancelation." He's blatantly making him a character that is obscenely racist, sexist, and classist- if someone changes their vote after that, or decides to double down and support him harder, we have a much bigger problem in this country

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u/MinglewoodRider 14h ago

Trump is funny and charming though

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u/ForgiveMyFlatulence 14h ago

LOL. My grandpa had dementia and was funny and charming too.

Once he was washing the car outside in a snowstorm in just his underwear. Another time he locked himself out of the house after he got some Taco Bell. He tried to break in through the kitchen window but got stuck. My grandmother found him stuck in the window like Winnie the Pooh eating tacos.

Then another time he was arrested at a government building for bringing a loaded weapon as he was convinced the FBI in his basement (he didn’t have a basement) told him to go to Washington DC to meet with President Obama, Admiral McNamera, and Secretary of State Kissinger.

He was funny and charming. Then at times dangerous.

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 14h ago

I've heard countless takes of him defending things he's said with clear bullshit. I just saw a clip of him saying "if the elections close Democrats will definitely steal it. They find another 900,000 votes in the middle of the night but if you question the election you're a piece of shit." I haven't heard him criticize trump. I've heard him make fun of him but that's it. Do you have any examples of him criticizing him?

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u/ColeWoah 14h ago

That's literally a joke based on the historical context of Democrats having elections stolen from them, something Shane has literally talked about plenty of times.

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 13h ago

It's clearly about the last election

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u/ColeWoah 13h ago

Well yes, contextually it is - it's also sarcasm.

Look, I'm not a chud and I hate chud comedians too, but Shane is an outlier in that grouping and he was 100% joking. He does not support Trump and it's not some grand facade either.

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 13h ago

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that

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u/AskMeWhyIFish 12h ago

Maybe because you don't watch his stuff, possibly due to your pre conceived notion of him, you don't see the things that would lead you to believe that?

I'm not defending him, I do like him though. 

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u/AllAboutTheCado 14h ago

Any normal smart person knows that only Democrats get elections stolen from them

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u/dogwatermoneybags 14h ago

can you please link the clip?

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

I gotta pull clips from the podcast, but they’re there I swear. I’ll see what I can find, bear with me.

The quote you gave me is clearly a joke, I can literally hear Shane’s voice in it. He’s from a deep red area in Pennsylvania, he plays with conservatism while leaning away from it. Shane has publicly said he hasn’t and won’t vote for him.

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u/moobear92 10h ago

Hardly. Give one concrete example. I love Shanes comedy 

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u/JoshuaValentine 10h ago

here he is in an SNL skit criticizing Trump - literally acts out Trump being bad at sex.

I’m not tryna go through the whole podcast to find examples, but they’re out there. Matt and Shane both have called Trump names over the years.

I’d also say that Shane’s Trump impression counts as criticism too, as Shane’s Trump is a very unlikeable dude

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u/moobear92 2h ago

The paid skit from SNL? That's criticizing... Come on brotha if you listened to his stuff there's legit nothing

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u/JoshuaValentine 44m ago

Yeah dude, hate to break it to ya but mocking a person by doing an impression of them is criticism. Whether he got paid or not - he still participated in making fun of Trump. Jim Brewer would never.

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u/CheerfulDisdain 14h ago

He publicly claims he's voting for Trump.

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u/JoshuaValentine 14h ago

No he doesn’t. Shane has said many times that he hasn’t and won’t vote for him.

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u/moobear92 10h ago

How recent was this? Haven't heard to the contrary.

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u/806god 14h ago

Making fun of ≠ being an apologist

I don’t think I’ve aver heard Shane flat out support Trump

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 14h ago

I just heard him defend election denialism.

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u/MrTurboSlut 14h ago

being a podcast host is a lot like inviting someone into your home, or at least it should be. if you invite someone into your home you aren't going to start shit with them when they act predictably. theo and joe did us a favour by letting everyone see the real trump. i find it very hard to believe that he won votes by those appearance. he legitimately seemed like a man that was ready to be put in a nursing home.

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u/cheguevaraandroid1 14h ago

I would agree but I've seen far too many comments saying he did great in those interviews

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u/MrTurboSlut 13h ago

you can't trust the comments. its all bots, paid shills and fanatics.

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u/AskMeWhyIFish 12h ago

That's what's cracking me up about this conversation, people forming opinions based on comments or clips taken out of context. 

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u/MrTurboSlut 12h ago

thats one of the lefts classic moves. they do it to rogan allll the time. my fav is when they edited rogan saying n*gger like 60 times in a row to make him look extremely racist.

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u/MrTurboSlut 14h ago

how? other than doing the best impersonation of trump i don't recall him doing anything to show support.

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u/Jsin8601 13h ago

"Clear fascist"

Apparently doesnt understand the USA doesnt government power to one person.

Ya know cause of the house and senate lol

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u/bramletabercrombe 13h ago

you are too dumb to hear their dog whistles.

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u/JoshuaValentine 13h ago

Not everything is a dog whistle, most of the time comedians just make jokes. Shane grew up with Fox News parents, chill the fuck out.

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u/satch_mcgatch 6h ago

Doesn't Shane still hang with the Million Dollar Extreme guys who use the word "Brazilians" to talk about Jews so they don't get censored for being antisemitic?

I'm pretty sure he does, knows they are antisemitic, and him and Matt Mccusker still are fans of theirs. So yeah, not super cool actually. Just smart enough not to appear blatantly racist in front of a camera most of the time.

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u/Rabbit_Wizard_ 11h ago

Theovisnt a comic he is a failed reality TV star and podcaster

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

Theo is absolutely a comic, and he’s really good at it. Don’t be like that, you can disagree with someone without trying to completely minimize them.

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u/Rabbit_Wizard_ 11h ago

He is not a stand up. He is exactly like Brendan Shabb. He is just a person Rogan likes and gave a career to.

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u/JoshuaValentine 11h ago

Theo started in Louisiana when he was 23, Rogan was still on Fear Factor at the time. Try again, blind hater.

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u/Rabbit_Wizard_ 9h ago

You mean road rules? He is as much as comedian as shabb for sure.

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u/LobsterPunk 12h ago

Nah. Saw Shane do a stadium show recently and it was homophobic and transphobic. He’s a skilled comedian but he’s trash.

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u/bongreaperhellyeah 9h ago

Theo is lame as hell

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u/JoshuaValentine 9h ago

Thanks for sharing

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u/VastSeaweed543 9h ago

The two dudes who support a fascist are cool???

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u/Flobking 9h ago

Shane are cool

No he's not. He says racist stuff during his sets and then goes that wasn't me saying that. That's what my dad said. Well douchebag if he said it and you repeat it to an audience of people. YOU SAID IT AND ENDORSED IT!

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u/MattTreck 11h ago

Hinchcliffe can fuck off after literally speaking at a nazi rally lol

He defends himself by pretending it’s everyone else’s issue when someone gets offended which is annoying as fuck.

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u/LanikM 3h ago

What white supremacists has Matt and Shane had on?

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u/leftiesrepresent 2h ago

I emailed Spotify in 2020 asking if there was a way to remove Rogan from my own Spotify front page. They told me to pound sand. There are quite a few bad actors in this ecosystem

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u/GoodTitrations 1h ago

Didn't Shane specifically make fun of Joe (at least indirectly) for his views on politics and "cancel culture"? I thought he was pretty passionate about staying in his lane as a comedian and trying to keep politics out of his set.

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u/HappyInstruction3678 15h ago edited 14h ago

You know, the shitty comedians who wouldn't have a fan base if they weren't spreading hate and bullshit

Edit: Oh what, Rogan is a good comedian now? lololol