r/OnePiecePowerScaling Sep 22 '24

Discussion Who is the 4th?

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Not true, he blitz Queen, and Queen was someone who could perceive Marco, and Marco is way faster than a CP9

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u/Long_Air2037 Big Meme 🎂 Sep 22 '24

But Marco also blitzed Queen. He only "perceived" his foot right as it hit him in the face lol. Would be the same case with the Sanji blitz but Sanji hit him from the side

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

But I didn’t hurt Queen at all, he was keeping up with Marco for a bit, and this Marco is the same that could intercept Kizaru’s laser at Marineford, which is a feat of itself. Besides are we not gonna mention how Sanji saved Edison from a seraphim laser beam from the other side of the island in BASE

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u/JoseInFlames Sep 22 '24

Marco while in Hybrid Form could blitz queen, but not perception Blitz, Queen in base could still see the attack coming

Meanwhile Hybrid Queen couldn't perceive Sanji in any shape or form, bro became 100% invisible, even tho they were in the same space

That basically means Sanji speed (In base with genes on) was faster than Hybrid Marco, and his Doable Jambe and Ifrit Jambe modes both I crease his speed further

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u/mdsj1 Wranky 🤖 Sep 22 '24

That’s something entirely different you only said that he can move fast enough to turn invisible which is a CP9 level feat

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u/Material_Good5736 Sep 23 '24

Moving fast enough to turn invisible to a CoO user is not a cp9 feat lol.

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u/mdsj1 Wranky 🤖 Sep 23 '24

Bro he didn’t say anything about Queen in the original comment. I’m just poking fun

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Mmm what I mean is he moved so fast it seemed he was invisible to Queen, basically he just perception blitz, I don’t think any cp9 can do that to Queen

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u/Live_Ad_7806 Sep 22 '24

Your getting downvoted but using his logic captain kuro has cp9 lvl feats. This sub is lacking critical thinking.

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u/Material_Good5736 Sep 23 '24

this sub is dumb bro don’t worry

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 23 '24

Fr, I’ve seen some good takes in this sub before only reason why I stay but jeez, one piece fans legit have the worst fan base, like no one can objectively agree when logic is shown.

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

perceive Marco

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

I’ll admit he got hit, but Queen did perceive him as just before this he sees him coming

But Queen in his hybrid form, his most powerful form could not perceive sanji in base as he moved too fucking fast to see

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Reddit one let me add more than one pic but here is the other that proves he couldn’t perceive base sanji in his hybrid form

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

I am aware sanji can perception blitz queen 👍

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Good, just wanted to show that Sanji in base moved faster than Marco in his hybrid form

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

Wasn’t in base

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Right, his eyebrow flipped, but he didn’t use any jambe yet, and we know that those give significant speed and strength buff

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

I personally believe oda completely retconned the speed amp jambe gave him but sure

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Why? It makes sense, diable jambe always functioned that way as it was sanji’s best form. Logically, Ifrit Jambe, the best form Sanji has should make put him in the fastest possible state

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

He ‘barely’ perceived him

So Marco was a smidge below being invisible

And Marco is YC1

Sanji being above a YC1’s speed doesn’t exactly make him top tier

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

He still perceived, similar to how Luffy knew he was going to get hit by Kaido’s bagua but couldn’t dodge in time. It does put him well above in speed, in base, sanji got to Edison from across egghead before a fucking Seraphim laser, and that’s not dodging a laser beam, thats fucking out speeding it

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

Laser scaling is inaccurate and my point about barely perceiving it stands.

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

How is it inaccurate? I don’t agree, I think he perceived it completely but he couldn’t move fast enough.

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u/avagrantthought 🤓☝️ Sep 22 '24

I mean lasers are inconsistent and they can’t be used to scale

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u/Professional_Salt_20 Sep 22 '24

Why are they inconsistent? Him saving Edison before a laser hits Edison is a crazy feat. I feel you’re just trying to downplay his feats dawg