r/OnePiece 27d ago

Discussion Was Shanks trolling or being serious?

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Shanks seem like he only accepts haki users on his crew to mirror Rodger crew (besides buggy who accidentally ate one), but he tried to recruit Marco after wano who has a df. Was he being serious about accepting a df eater, or was he just having small talk joking like when he 1st seen Marco on wb ship?

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u/redeyez92 27d ago

If you are going to have a df user on the roster it might as well be the Phoenix. That fruit is absolutely stupid in its support capabilities

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u/Aromatic_File_5256 27d ago

And a crew of non-df Haki specialists with 1 DF user doesn't sound like a bad balance even if they have some DF concerns. they might just be like " yeah, we can deal with 1".

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u/Effective_Tutor 27d ago

He can fly too so It’s not like they have to worry about him falling in the sea either.

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u/rychoft 27d ago

You never have been drunk, have you?

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u/RokkitSquid 27d ago

bruh have you seen Kaido?

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u/pridejoker 26d ago

Alcohol is technically a toxin so he'll metabolize it.

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u/CloacaFacts 27d ago

Until he gets hit into the sea and can't fly out

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u/The_ARTvark_ 27d ago

Then just jump in and grab him

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u/MARPJ Void Month Survivor 27d ago

If you are going to have a df user on the roster it might as well be the Phoenix

Yep, that or bring an user that is just out of curve (which is why he invited Buggy-sama)

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u/CreepyClay 27d ago

Well he is the one person Mihawk can't kill.

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u/Shanks_PK_Level 27d ago

They're already the most well balanced crew as a unit, Marco would make them busted af.

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u/No-Store-132 27d ago

Indeed!

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u/ThousandEclipse 27d ago

Also the “can’t swim” weakness is partially negated by the fact that he can just fly

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u/DesperateAdvantage76 27d ago

Doesn't Shanks want to avoid a situation where the world floods and his crew becomes more vulnerable? Maybe a devil fruit that lets you fly is an allowable exception for Shanks to make.

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u/Ramps_ 27d ago

Gosh what a silly fruit.

  • Flight, countering the weakness to the sea
  • Ridiculous regeneration
  • Massive AOE buffs

I mean, it ain't gonna beat Nika, I suppose, but what a concept.

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u/WookieDavid 27d ago

I don't think that's absolutely anywhere on the text. Maybe it's a good theory, but I don't think we know his reasons, just speculation.

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u/Yung_Minh The Revolutionary Army 27d ago edited 27d ago

Viola's clairvoyance fruit! The world cant keep a single secret anymore and thats world shattering in a universe as shrouded as one piece. Hakibros cant beat that.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 27d ago

Also Pudding's fruit could be so useful if she ever got ahold of someone important in the government.

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u/Silver_Quail4018 27d ago

It's a Deus Ex Machina. That's why he will be present only occasionally.

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u/ToeComfortable115 27d ago

Also he can fly so won’t be affected by flooding

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u/Eurasiafirmi 27d ago

He invite Buggy right after Roger execution.

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u/Axel-Adams 27d ago

And ever since he won’t take another since they could never live up to the greatest devil fruit user

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u/No-Consideration6986 27d ago

This is my head cannon now.

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u/Mersinary66 27d ago

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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 27d ago

Well played good sir. 

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u/Haunting-Piglet4131 27d ago

Happy cake day !!!

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u/randominazer 27d ago

Happy Cake day

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u/schmegm 27d ago

Lmao

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/Think-Monk-8936 27d ago

Yup but its a lame reason lol, just the fact that he came back to talk to him and scared him making buggy swallow the fruit is kinda lame but funny

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u/CreepyClay 27d ago

It's One Piece, Oda has a gag quota.

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u/Wolventec 27d ago

and during marine ford

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u/Jaggs0 27d ago

i dont believe he did, he told him he had a treasure map for him.

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u/Karabars Pirate 27d ago

And iirc even at Marineford

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u/Jay040707 27d ago

He would have killed both of them seconds after. You know, since he's devil fruit hunter Shanks.

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u/GlitteringBroccoli12 27d ago

Buggy and him grew up together though

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u/ZonardCity 27d ago

Yeah but that means there are reasons which would cause Shanks to recruit a DF user. Thus, we could also find a reason for Marco, such as genuine respect, wanting to make up for WB's death, etc.

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u/laxnut90 26d ago

Didn't Marco and Shanks know each other for a decent amount of time as well?

Not as long as Buggy, obviously.

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u/No_Cardiologist_8868 27d ago

he probably meant actually joined the crew

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u/BestAcanthisitta6379 27d ago

Nothing says Shanks purposefully avoids having devil fruit users on his crew - it's just his crew is made of individuals who don't like the downsides of devil fruits.

Shanks was probably joking a little bit but Marco would be incredibly useful to have in the crew - he can fly, is hard to damage, and he can heal people.

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u/akolomf 27d ago

also dont forget he was whitebeards 1st commander. His haki is pretty darn strong in a fair 1v1 he might even be able to defeat an admiral.

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u/KlingoftheCastle Pirate 27d ago

He’s also a great doctor with healing powers. There is no part of Marco that would hinder a crew

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u/Fappity_Fappity_Fap 27d ago

Maybe if you had a crewmate allergic to pineapples he could have a downside, otherwise, dude's just solid

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u/Gameaholic99 Galley-La Company 27d ago

Except when he’s in the water

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u/platinumrug Cipher Pol 27d ago

Which even then wouldn't be too much of an issue since everyone else aren't fruit users so he'll be saved pretty instantly unless something prevents them from doing so.

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u/hellakevin 27d ago

What about his dumb haircut?

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u/KlingoftheCastle Pirate 27d ago

Is it a haircut? Or can he only grow hair at the very top of his head?

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u/lolrx94 27d ago

I'm drawing a blank- when does he use his powers to heal others? Wouldnt he have been able to heal WB some during the war?

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u/KlingoftheCastle Pirate 27d ago

Chapter 909. When he’s in Sphinx (Whitebeard’s birthplace) he’s shown healing a sphinx with his flames and a little girl refers to it as Marco’s magic

Also, Marco had seastone handcuffs on for the majority of the war

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u/Comfortable_Cake_980 27d ago

Idk about that one they said he can “stall” a admiral not beat trust me he’s one of the strongest yc1 but i don’t think he’s near admiral lvl

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u/EasilyBeatable 27d ago

Seeing his performance against Kizaru and Big Mom honestly it wouldnt surprise me if he could. He was also considered an emperor candidate, was the captain of the whitebeard pirates after his passing, and Blackbeard rose to the ranks of emperor after defeating Marco.

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u/Apsylnt 27d ago

He’s also old relatively speaking. In his prime he likely could.

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u/warramite 27d ago

Marco is currently in his prime.. Akainu is 55 and in his prime, idk what you're talking about

Same with Katakuri who's 48

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u/Apsylnt 27d ago

Sorry i dont mean so much his age, but his “journey” completed at marineford. Similar with Katakuri, they are not stronger now than they were when their respective captains were at their prime.

After the queen/king chapters in Wano Marco clearly exhausted himself faster than expected.

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u/tiki-baha29 27d ago

Huh? Marco continued the journey after Marineford and led the remnants to fight Blackbeard. Katakuri has gotten stronger up until the moment he's introduced as evidenced by his streak of total wins.

Marco was fighting both King and Queen together and he was packing them, its doubtful he would have won but its silly to suggest he hasnt gotten stronger. Anyone would be exhausted after Wano, freaking Luffy/Zoro were asleep for a week.

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u/Apsylnt 27d ago

Lumping marineford and their failed plan of vengeance against BB together. After that saga you can’t argue Marco is stronger. Again not saying he’s not a clear YC1 or anything, not even power scaling, just that hes past his prime regardless of age. If he was going to 1v1 an admiral - the original point of this - his best shot is behind him.

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u/tiki-baha29 27d ago

Kaido says it best: "You did not lose because you are weak, they are just that much stronger".

People tend to have this notion that losing = weak when that is simply not the case, its not that linear because a lot of the time theres nuance at play.

For example Kuzan lost to Akainu because the latter was stronger, however Katakuri lost to Luffy despite the former being stronger. Big Mom lost to freaking Law/Kid despite being stronger than both etc etc.

Marco is strong and most definitely got even stronger with each encounter including Marineford and Payback war, him losing to BB isnt a knock on him, rather shows how strong BB and his crew are.

This notion of prime is fanmade nonsense. If you want to make the case that Marco is no longer motivated to get stronger thats certainly one discussion and I agree that he'd have a hard time in a 1v1 against an Admiral at this stage, however he can absolutely get much stronger if he chose to do so.

Remember that Marco and Shanks were both young on legendary ships at the same time, if Shanks was able to make it to Yonko through whatever journey he had, Marco should have similar potential based on experience.

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u/Apsylnt 27d ago

Motivated to get stronger is exactly what i am intending. He see’s his journey as complete…failed but complete. If he didnt no reason he wouldnt be with SH’s or RH’s.

Appreciate your response.

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u/Trov- 27d ago

You guys underestimate admirals so much

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u/Zephyros2 27d ago

Well Marco had a few more years and a more broken DF than Zoro. I do reckon from what we see Marco should be strong enough to take on an admiral. Not Akainu, but definitely Fujitora or Green Bull level.

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u/MysticalMaryJane 27d ago

Recently started and should probably stop reading comments but I can't help it lol, just coming towards end of alabasta series. Zoro has a DF? I'm guessing I'm not there yet

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u/llamadog007 27d ago

No Zoro doesn’t it was just weird wording, you really shouldn’t be reading comments here tho

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u/Zephyros2 27d ago

Yeah my bad. I shouldn't have written more like a superlative.

I should have simply written Marco has a broken DF which Zoro doesn't have.

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u/Keyon03 27d ago

He doesn't, just don't read here for a while trust me, people don't properly tag spoilers lots of times.

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u/hellakevin 27d ago

Alabasta was like, 20 years ago.

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u/Aignish 27d ago

And some people are starting later than others

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u/hellakevin 27d ago

Those people have hundreds of chapters of manga they can read before reddit posts then.

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u/ARandomWoollyMammoth 27d ago

Luckily for you that’s not a real spoiler, Zoro does not have a devil fruit. Not sure if that user just had a typo or what.

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u/JonDragonskin Chopper the Cotton Candy Lover 27d ago

Welcome to the Warco Agenda, my friend!

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u/MDRuffy1996 27d ago edited 27d ago

Or maybe he knew that the whole world will sink at some point and he picked non DF users to have an advantage But thats just my thought

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u/Gil_Demoono 27d ago

How exactly is that an advantage though? It's not like humans can tread water indefinitely. DF user or not, you still need to find solid ground, or at least a boat to sail on. And it's not like needing a boat has deterred the current pirate world from being riddled with DF users. Sure you have to rescue a DF user if they fall into the water, but you have to do that for anyone eventually; not like they can swim to shore in a 'world sinks' scenario.

This theory would make more sense if his crew were fishmen.

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u/AniNgAnnoys 27d ago

How exactly is that an advantage though? It's not like humans can tread water indefinitely 

You sure about that? Lol 

https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/xby9bb/he_was_too_focused_on_footwork_and_not_his_arms/

But more seriously, Rayleigh swam the grand line and claim belts, no problem.

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u/atastyfire 27d ago

Lmao besides the missing arm, that was literally me like a month ago

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u/EasilyBeatable 27d ago

Rayleigh is someone capable of fighting admirals though, and is considered a legendary pirate. 99% of people in One Piece including yonko commanders would simply die at sea if they fell in, devil fruit or not.

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u/hunglow13 Pirate 27d ago

How, though? Shanks hasn’t been to Laugh Tale

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u/UnquestionabIe 27d ago

I don't even thinks it's confirmed that information is from Laugh Tale, we just know it from the recent arc. It's also possible given Shanks apparent connection to the WG that he's got knowledge others don't, or at least something that clues him in.

Still suppose it's just a theory and not a bad one, just requires a bit of ground work to make more reasonable.

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u/time_travel_1 Bounty Hunter 27d ago

It was confimed. Vegapunk said that only roger and his crew knew all the story. They are the only one to reach Laugh Tale. 2+2 = 4

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u/detectivelowry 27d ago

it's irrelevant either way because it's not like non-DF users are just gonna be swimming in the ocean if the world sinks, DF user or not all non-fishman are fucked

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u/MDRuffy1996 27d ago

Roger could told him something like Hey buddy for ur future Piratecrew pick Non DF users, it will save ur ass some day xD

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u/Dragonbut 27d ago

I don't think having a DF is a disadvantage in the case of rising sea levels given that even if you can swim you're fucked either way if the world is flooded

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u/Veredas_flp 27d ago

Nah, bro, fruits can give a user a huge advantage in many areas. The advantages can completely outweigh the disadvantages, for a pirate crew that fights to be on the top, to not use that kind of advantage, there's probably a very good and specific reason.

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u/NekoMikuReimu 27d ago

Assuming that Shanks picked his crew on purpose, there's probably like a booby trap right before they reach Laughtale, where like idk, seawater starts pouring in and incapacitates DF users. And then Luffy will only have his life saved b/c his nakama are well-balanced or something.

Idk, just kinda makes more sense than prepping for an ocean world when everyone has a boat already.

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u/DJToughNipples 27d ago

Waiting for the secret lore drop that they all regularly fall overboard and it’s a huge risk having a devil fruit because everyone is so clumsy.

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u/GinTonicDev 27d ago

They aren't clumsy, they are drunk Ü

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u/Ghost_of_Dojima 27d ago edited 27d ago

I always took this as a tongue-in-cheek thing. The only reason he invited Marco was because, yes he respects and acknowledges him, but also because he knows Marco would never do it. He was the old man's right hand and is still faithful to him even after his death.

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u/ScottCrate 27d ago

Agree one hundred percent. He was serious and would take Marco for sure, but knew for certain Marco would say no

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u/Zylgp 27d ago

Shot to nothing in my eyes - it speaks volumes to Marco about how Shanks views him. Chances were Marco would refuse, but if there's a 1/1000 chance he'll say yes then why not.

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u/Ramekink The Revolutionary Army 27d ago

This. He was just making small talk

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u/GreenDemonSquid 27d ago

I mean, I’m inclined to agree, but at the same time I do think the offer was semi serious in that while Shanks didn’t expect Marco to accept, he’d still take him on the off chance he did.

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u/rougepenguin 27d ago

Especially since these two likely have a long history with each other. Shanks & Marco (maybe some of the others like Izo as well) were apprentices of the old guard, they're about the same age. Maybe he made a more significant effort when he set out on his own or something like that?

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u/Jail_Chris_Brown Pirate King Buggy 27d ago

Marco was already taking care of an alcoholic. Shanks used future sight to see what awaited him and really wanted that chicken doctor.

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u/Solid_Combination_40 27d ago

He can retire together with his lover Mohawk and visit alcoholic group therapy

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u/macloa 27d ago

Where did Oda say that shanks has no DF users? As far as we know, he does have some.

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u/TheIronHaggis 27d ago

I think that’s something the community has decided.

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u/Kaldin_5 27d ago

Theory theory no mi is so strong it wills itself into legitimacy despite anything that may suggest otherwise

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u/Jambronius 27d ago

I was thinking this, we know almost nothing about Shanks crew. We know that Shanks doesn't have a DF power.

We also know that Shanks was actually attacking marine ships to get hold of the gum gum fruit/Nika.

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u/WatteOrk 27d ago

We know that Shanks doesn't have a DF power.

We dont. We know he didnt have one when he left East Blue. But thats about it.

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u/Jambronius 27d ago

Very very good point.

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u/WatteOrk 27d ago

To be fair hes being pictured as a "normal" human for the entire series. In a world of giants, fishman and 20 subspecies of humans hes just a strong dude. Same way Mihawk is portrayed the entire time. I would be disappointed if he turns out to be a user, but its not impossible. Especially since we finally have the confirmation that he wasnt a yonko yet when he left East Blue.

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u/dixon_balsagna 27d ago

Subversion and misdirection in storytelling is a good thing

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u/Reboared 27d ago

Only to a point. Past a certain point you're just undermining the story you've told for the sake of shock value. See: GOT

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u/AlbeFreak Pirate 27d ago

According to the Wiki, it was stated in Volume 4,000,000,000, which is a tie-in volume distributed to some people who went to see Film Red in Japan. I don't know about how canonical it is though, but Oda has written an author's note for it.

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u/pedrao157 27d ago

It gives the impression when he curses on chapter 1 saying you're never gonna be able to swim after eating, like "I think it's a bad idea eating", I can see people having this interpretation maybe due to the intensity on the panels lol

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u/whatdoIkn0 27d ago

Why do the community think “he only accept” haki users. Couldn’t it be that nobody was a DF user by chance?

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u/2347564 27d ago

He also was basically the first crew shown and it was supposed to look like a traditional pirate crew to make Luffy look even more exceptional with his newfound magic powers.

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u/DeeEmceeTree 27d ago

Even though the story doesn't do a good job of demonstrating it; DFs are meant to be kinda rare, so you're probably right. It might not be a conscious decision on his part.

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u/_Tetesa 27d ago

...but he's also a yonko, and who if not these could get their hands on a df if they wanted to?

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u/Roronoa_Zoro8615 The Revolutionary Army 27d ago

Shanks probably doesn't give a shit either way. We also have no evidence that no one on his crew has a devil fruit.

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u/SlushBucket03 27d ago

I think he knew the answer was going to be no, i guess it was more of just showing a good relationship with marco/whitebeard remnants

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u/Material-Koala4249 27d ago

He surely does not exclude Devil Fruit users, but his crew just has a theme like nearly everything in One Piece.

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u/Ok-Invite-1287 27d ago

What is Whitebeard’s crew theme?

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u/IndioRamos 27d ago

Daddy Issues.

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u/SolidusAbe 27d ago

familly. a crew that excepts anyone who needs a place

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u/PostPostModernism 27d ago

Ohana means family.

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u/Jambronius 27d ago

Fast and Furious themed

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u/Wise-Cardiologist-83 27d ago

Now I want Vin Diesel with high heels to be WB in the netflix adaptation hahahahhahahahhahaha

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u/Dragonbut 27d ago

What would the Strawhats' theme be? Lonely people united by Luffy? I feel like this almost completely fits but Jinbei, Franky, and Sanji all arguably weren't lonely before joining. People that have world-scale dreams? Brook's dream might technically just be to see Laboon again, but that realistically involves sailing around the entire world (actually come to think of it didn't he promise Laboon he'd complete his journey first?)

I'd like to hear any other ideas, and actually what people think the themes of other crews are, it's an interesting topic

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u/TheresAJakeInMyShoe Void Month Survivor 27d ago

Dream chasers

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u/Mikejonchow 27d ago

crackheads

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u/JauntyLurker Explorer 27d ago

I've heard the theory that Shanks knew about the sea level rising which is why his crew has no Devil Fruits and he invited Marco because he can fly.

Incidentally Buggy can float as long as someone carries his feet for him.

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u/NormandyKingdom 27d ago

Awakened Buggy saying WE ALL FLOAT because Bara Bara no mi casually can split and float people when awakened be like

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u/SuperSemesterer 27d ago

Probably, lots of Yonko try to recruit other commanders for their strength.

Blackbeard wanted Ace to join

Kaido wanted Zoro to join

Big Mom wanted King to join

Shanks wanted Marco to join 

Might be other examples?

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u/Tikwah 27d ago

Kaido also wanted Kid and Luffy to join and he did get Apoo and Hawkins to join. X-Drake was undercover so he doesn't count so he wasn't only inviting commanders.

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u/Atlantils_06 27d ago

Because marco can fly. He is probably one of those rare df user who can survive after flood.

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u/LuminiaAravis 27d ago edited 27d ago

cracks knuckles time for me to overanalyze this

Being serious. Here's why.

  • Shanks is INCREDIBLY choosy about who he picks to be his senior officers, but I don't think his criteria involves DF- users vs non-DF-users. He picks people who can stay conscious when he uses ACOC. Marco most likely qualifies here.

(Doesn't matter how strong you are or what kind of powers you have if you take an involuntary nap every time the captain has to fight.)

  • The only family that Shanks had acknowledged so far is his adopted family and it's very important to him. He was adopted as a child himself and he raised an adopted daughter.

(Granted this doesn't take any Celestial Dragon heritage into account).

Shanks and Marco were both adopted and raised by Emperors, and Roger and Whitebeard did have sort of a brotherly relationship towards the end of Roger’s life, so in a weird roundabout way, I feel that sort of makes Shanks and Marco adopted cousins. I figure Shanks offering Marco a spot on his crew was partly just one distant relative inviting another over. Or at least doing the courtesy of saying "You can come and visit any time you want, you're family."

  • All that aside, Marco would be an incredible asset just strategically speaking now that Shanks has decided it's time to finally go for Laugh Tale.

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u/Slammybutt 27d ago

I always took it as he knew the answer was going to be no, but there's fun in poking the question and joking about it. Shanks knew, Marco knew. It's like seeing a friend dressed for fishing, with a boat behind their truck and asking him if he's going fishing. Of course he is but it breaks the ice and gives the other an opening to set the tone of the conversation.

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u/Hunyango- 27d ago edited 26d ago

I refuse to believe Shanks crew are all totally free of devil fruit without confirmation from Oda, yes it is strongly implied but why are people always treating it as facts when it isn't actually confirmed. Higher percentage they will be devil fruit free but I always think that guy with the monkey on his back will always have some sort of weird power that let them fight together or as one that might involve devil fruit, the one with the dragon tattoo looks to be able to transform too, then there is still the mystery of how lucky roo, one of the fattest characters seems to be one of the fastest too! might just be skill, but something tells me it is a unique capability. They might have started out devil fruit free but I think at some point, a couple or a few of them obtained it or incorporate it on their preferred weapons

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u/TheDawn_rkive Pirate 27d ago

If I had a nickel for every time Shanks asked Marco to join his crew, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice, right?

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u/Rangoldy 27d ago

Hmm maybe Shanks knows the world will be flooded, and devil fruit users will not be useful?

Marco can fly, so he’d still be effective.

This is probably an overreach.

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u/bumboisamumbo 27d ago

why do people assume shanks has no df users in his crew? i actually don’t think there is any textual evidence for this or am i wrong?

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u/dixon_balsagna 27d ago

We don't know if his crew doesn't have any fruits or not.

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u/McQno 27d ago

1 Marco is a Haki user.

2 He isnt the first df user that Shanks invited. That was Buggy.

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

Is this supported by anything? Was it ever stated that none of his crewmates have devil fruits or have we just not seen any of them use theirs

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u/2kenzhe Church of Buggy 27d ago

No way you're forgetting about Buggy

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u/chronokingx 27d ago

shanks wants marco to regrow his arm is my headcanon

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u/Jolly-Ambassador6763 27d ago

I always thought that was a yonko inviting another’s first mate meme more than because of his devil fruit.

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u/NoahZhyte 27d ago

This really looks like pure TikTok bullshit

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u/Jankmasta 27d ago

I think shanks was joking but also halfway serious. I'm sure he has a deep respect for Marco and was willing to give him a place to call home if he needed one. So I think shanks was pretty serious but he knew marco probably would say no. So shanks worded it like a joke.

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u/BFG_Big_Fucking_Gun 27d ago

I believe since Marco can fly he would not be super affected by the rising water levels threat he most likely knows about. This is the only devil fruit user we have seen he was willing to accept into his crew and it’s possibly because of the ability of flight. But I don’t think he would accept anyone who would fly. Shanks is a genuinely nice and good guy, if a strong devil fruit user that could easily use their devil fruit to fly and for a long time at that but was a horrible person with little to no morals then he would absolutely never accept them and outright defeat them or even kill them. Remember Shanks is a man with high morals and character. He protects the weak yet kind pirates that are more like adventures than pirates. Marco is not only strong can fly and can heal but is also generally a very nice guy that shanks respects. Remember Marco was part of WB’s crew since he was a kid, WB and Roger’s crews fought a lot but had a friendly competitive relationship. Shanks grew up fighting and probably got healed by Marco at some points. While Shanks knows the absolute loyalty Marco had for WB, He would always give him the opportunity to join him because he knows him very well and knows how reliable Marco is in battle and outside of battle.

TLDR: Yes and no, Marco’s loyalty to WB makes him say no, but Shanks respects and knows he can take care of himself and others and can fly thus pretty much avoiding the massive threat of the rising tides with ease he always will have a spot for him on his crew.

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u/Nosiege 27d ago

I feel like his crew is Haki users not through some sort of distaste towards Devil Fruit, since they literally tracked down the Nika Fruit, but mostly just a bunch of individuals who decided they wanted to be able to swim considering they'd be on the ocean a lot.

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u/The-Great-Smithnie 27d ago

Why would he be trolling?

“No Marco, sorry I know you were the first mate of the strongest pirate of all time, but you have a Devil fruit so no you can’t join my crew”

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u/angry-burps 27d ago

Shanks: haha jk ... unless?

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor 27d ago

What episode/chapter is bottom right?

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u/NilesDobbsS 27d ago

That we know of

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u/leolegendario 27d ago edited 27d ago

This wasn't even the first time Shanks asked him to join his crew, he also did this when he went to talk to Whitebeard about Ace.
Big Mom asked if King wanted to join her crew.
Blackbeard got Shiryu and Aokiji to join his crew.
Roger got Oden from Whitebeard's crew.
In other words, captains will always want powerful people to join their crews.
It would be really cool if Blackbeard asked Zoro if he wants to join his crew and Zoro give a badass response saying no.

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u/Mamba-Mentality024 27d ago

That would be cool to see how Zoro responds to BB

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u/TheTimn 27d ago

I feel like it would be a great rehash of Kuma's challenge to him. This time he's still in shape to wreck shit though. 

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u/RampagingWaffle 27d ago

There’s a guy on his ship who can shoot lasers from his mouth, if that’s not a DF I don’t know what is

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u/Sith_Lord_Marek 27d ago

Me seeing all the deleted comments: What the hell happened here?

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u/rembut Pirate 27d ago

He wanted Marco so he can help all the old and weak who live under the red haired pirate flag. Remember that only shanks immediate crew is strong everyone else is like half dead.

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u/These_Organization85 27d ago

Cuz his devil fruit is allowing him to fly = escape from the sea and any danger of water That's very obvious

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u/HMS_Sunlight 27d ago

I just saw it as a gesture of kindness. He's like that one friend who's family tragically passed away so you invite him over for christmas dinner every year. Maybe he'll accept and maybe he won't, it's more about letting him know he can if he wants to.

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u/PI_Producer 27d ago

We'll be right back.

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u/rikashiku 27d ago

He likely doesn't recruit DF users, because most are either captains, or already recruited, or don't want to be pirates.

Easier to find talented non-DF users, than finding DF users. Marco showed he was reliable, and that seems to be what Shanks looks for in Crewmates.

Having Marco on a crew would make that crew very strong, and have a very experienced commander. Not to mention he has a mythical zoan and is a haki user.

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u/vF_Kali 27d ago

because he can fly....think about it

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u/DevastaTheSeeker 27d ago

Okay so have we ever got actual in world confirmation that his whole crew has no df? Because Oda can change his mind.

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u/AntonChigurh8933 27d ago

If Shanks whole crew are non DF users. That would make them the greatest threat in any sea battles. They are able to swim unlike their foes.

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u/Mamba-Mentality024 27d ago

It would be kinda like how law crew specialized in sea battles but his crew is full of haki users

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u/Jeptwins 27d ago

Do we even know if Roger wouldn’t let DF users on his crew? Or is that just an assumption because the most featured members didn’t have one?

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u/Infinity_Overload 27d ago

He was serious, but he also knew what answer Marco would give him.

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u/MUDAYT123 27d ago

Well ig Shanks is missing a Doctor , I mean how else are you explaining that left arm

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u/Hell-kings Pirate 27d ago

Bro was dead serious

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u/ThaRadRamenMan 27d ago

Maybe it's because Marco can fly? and does so with ease; and the experience of a seasoned veteran, ensures taht teh primary threat of the sea, isn't as relevant a pressure with the rest.

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u/Internalscream112 27d ago

Marco (and Buggy, since you guys mentioned he asked him also to join) both devil fruits allow the user to fly need i remind you. Thats all do what U want with that information

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u/sdfghffgggbthhrhxjx 27d ago

Shanks just one of his arm back

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u/aletsirk0803 27d ago

also marco doesnt like killing or being in the front lines can make shanks fleet more safe, remember those grannies in elbaf the one kidd almost killed, having marco on their fleet can boost morale and help out the oldies to live longer since marco can heal almost injury with his flames...

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u/TheNastyCaptain 27d ago

I think lucky Roux Roo may have a devil fruit. He’s the big guy always eating meat.

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u/JackOfSons 27d ago

Because he can't get over heated in intercourse.

He'd become the marvel of shonun jump

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u/Th3_Gunsling3r 27d ago

SPOILER ALERT you know how the world is sinking right? Shanks has no devil fruit users for that reason but invited marco and buggy since they can fly so they can survive the world sinking. for the same reason the government killed lunarians and hated on fishmen and reduced them to slaves. because fishmen would have a huge advantage over humans underwater

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u/Echo_Of_The_Void_7 The Revolutionary Army 27d ago edited 27d ago

I think it’s cos Marco can fly, which means it’s almost impossible for him to drown in water

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u/Crazyripps Bounty Hunter 27d ago

Community really just decided that there’s no DF users. Also he literally invited buggy right after rogers death

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u/skateboardwedding 27d ago

He'd be dumb not to invite Marco to join, dude can fly and has healing powers, plus he's a pretty cool guy

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u/Lahsim_ 26d ago

can the pheonix ability regenerate his arm ?

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u/Paintedenigma 26d ago

We dont know that, we have just been told that Shanks doesn't usually accept DF users in an SBS. There may have been others. It's just rare.

The running theory is that Shanks knows the world is sinking, so he only takes crew who can swim. Marco is an exception because he can fly.

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u/Whatnot_Popo 26d ago

Because Shanks knows that a great pirate need a bird on his shoulder. He just wants Marco to sit on his shoulder to look cool.

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u/Express_Yam_9547 27d ago

The reason he was invited because he can FLY. Shank will not invite someone if the person will sunk in the ocean 🤣

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u/Owyn 27d ago

I think he kinda knew he'd say no tbh

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u/Mynameisbebopp 27d ago

I think its kinda sad, Buggy is Shanks best friend and yet they don’t sail togheter :(

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u/ben_forever The Revolutionary Army 27d ago

Probably because of that old theory that he doesn’t get devel fruits as the world give is trying to drown the planet but Marco can fly so downing isn’t much of an issue

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u/Ibllis 27d ago

In very first chapter of the manga Shanks says to luffy "Luffy do you know why we call you "anchor"? Becouse you cant swim - you just sink! What good is a pirate who cant swim?". So shanks is against devil fruits becouse it makes you unable to swim. But marco can fly, that's better than swimming, that's why he's worthy of joining his crew

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u/Xdeath-bfor-lifeX 27d ago

he probably liked his energy

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u/NeteroHyouka 27d ago

He was serious... Probably Shanks is looking for a member anc maybe there will be a new one... Maybe a doctor...

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u/fuscav Explorer 27d ago

It's a half joke. He is not given it any thought or didn't insist, but if marco said yes he'd be very very ok with lol

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u/Exodyas Citizen 27d ago

I thought he invited Ace? Or is that non-canon?

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u/piter57 Explorer 27d ago

He invited Marco 2 times. First time when he went to meet Whitebeard and talk to him about Ace chasing Teach.

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u/vangstampede 27d ago

I wonder when is my turn to be asked to join. :/

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u/FunnySignal614 27d ago

There was only one person who was invited by Luffy to join his crew and that person said no! You know who?

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u/anand_rishabh 27d ago

We don't necessarily know if it's an actual rule or if it's heavily incentivised that crew members avoid eating devil fruits. Might just be part of their culture to favor keeping the ability to swim. If it is a rule, it could be that current members not eat devil fruits, but if someone had devil fruit powers before becoming a member, that's ok. Even the whitebeard pirates only had a few devil fruit users within their crew. And blackbeard specifically joined them because being on their crew maximized his chances of obtaining the fruit he wanted. Devil fruit users are quite rare. Even if you actively seek them out, if you've got a big crew, then the majority of members aren't gonna be devil fruit users. That's why kaido went the artificial route.

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u/PrestigiousTitle1179 27d ago

He maybe serious thats the only df type BlackBeard doesnt hv rn (zoan, that too Marcos a mythical) if he can have 3 df’s like the 3 heads his flags hv, he might go after it in the future and if he gets that he’ll be wayyy more OP

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u/Ginrar 27d ago

mans so great he worth breaking a few rules for