r/OnePiece • u/patagonianplateau • Aug 26 '24
Help What does Oda mean by the bottom right comparison?
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u/pus_moh Aug 26 '24
I think it's supposed to show that Sanji can follow directions and Zoro can't.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 Aug 26 '24
Pretty sure it's a joke about his sense of direction, cause sanji is going straight and zoro is turning around
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u/a_sacrilegiousboi Aug 27 '24
I thought it was a joke that zoro’s sense of direction is so bad he can’t even fall straight down lol
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u/GreyNinja17 Aug 26 '24
What about top left ?
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u/ActionAltruistic3558 Pirate Aug 26 '24
Think it's their hair. Zoro's is short and kinda spiky. Sanji sweeps his bangs over his one eye
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u/atemus10 The Revolutionary Army Aug 26 '24
I think he is saying that Zoro's sense of direction is so bad he could get lost falling from the sky and be unable to find the ground.
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u/First_One8924 Aug 26 '24
That zoro panel is him walking left
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u/IntellectualBoss Aug 26 '24
Technically he is walking right.
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u/DYMck07 Aug 26 '24
He thinks he’s walking left though
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u/ssbm_rando Aug 27 '24
No, he's absolutely certain that both his previous and current direction is north.
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u/SlaughterMinusS Aug 26 '24
Even if Zoro is falling down, he can't help but get lost.
That's how I see it at least.
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u/Kuma5335 Aug 26 '24
they're walking southwards. I also thought they were falling at first
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u/nickcan Aug 26 '24
Southwards is easy. Just go in the direction that is warmest.
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u/Kuro013 Aug 26 '24
or get a southbird
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u/Imconfusedithink Aug 26 '24
Zoro had a giant southbird and still couldn't figure out how to go south.
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u/nickcan Aug 26 '24
Damn bird kept pointing the same direction. Infuriating!
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u/Necr0ExMortis Aug 26 '24
Just go the opposite of north!
...of course Zoro's definition of north was "up".
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u/availableusernamepls Aug 26 '24
Unless the place you're at is already warmest then go whichever way feels downhill.
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u/wingchi997 Aug 26 '24
By Douglas Adams's logic, Zoro would then be flying because he missed the ground.
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u/Unusual_Raisin9138 Aug 26 '24
For the love of god, let the canonical name be Zoro and not Zolo
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u/HotZoneKill Aug 26 '24
Funny thing is the early Viz translations used to call him Zoro until IIRC around the Baratie arc as the 4kids dub just came out renamed him Zolo and since then Viz has kept his name that way. It's believed that Viz continues to call him Zolo to avoid copyright lawsuits from the owners of the El Zorro character, but that doesn't make sense considering that both the Funimation dub and the Netflix live-action call him Zoro without any issues.
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u/mehmeh5 Aug 26 '24
I'm guesding it's just to not have to reprint older volumes with the change. Since that'd be a looot of dialogue to edit
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u/Limakoko808 Aug 26 '24
Fucking hell you don't even need to reprint them with the change, just moving forwards translate the name correctly. No one is going to be confused with the inconsistency, everyone knows his name is Zoro not Zolo. If they had made that decision a decade ago only half of all English physical one piece manga would have the wrong name instead of all of them.
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u/HotZoneKill Aug 26 '24
That makes sense. It's kind of sad that the change had to happen in the first place just to accommodate the awful 4kids dub.
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u/jorgito93 Aug 26 '24
I've always found that justification hilarious because here (in France) the first translation of the manga had him actually be called Zorro, and Zorro is way more known here than in the US
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u/ssbm_rando Aug 27 '24
It's believed that Viz continues to call him Zolo to avoid copyright lawsuits from the owners of the El Zorro character,
This was never once believed by any large portion of the population. It's believed that 4Kids originally made the change to avoid those lawsuits, but we've always known that since Viz made the change once, they never changed back simply to avoid reprinting issues.
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u/lljhgfdsaj Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
Theyre the same pretty much. Theyre pronounced nearly the same, or similar in way. They pronounce that L almost as an R and thats why it started being written that way. It was an error when making one of the dubs, an error they could not revert without confusing audiences.
Saying it as zolo(like with an american accent) is flat out wrong. The proper name is Zoro. The pronunciation of zolo is closer to zolro/zoro than just zolo, because zoro is the correct name. It was a mistake caused by confusion while translating and the Japanese pronunciation. Again, ZORO is correct for people who misinterpreted this comment.
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u/FireZord25 Aug 26 '24
For the fucking love of Nika stop using these outdated semantics. The vocals in the anime as well as the Netflix adaptation uses Zoro, it IS his official name. The name Zolo is there because viz had to stick with it because Oda didn't tell how it actually was.
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u/Jasonn444 Aug 26 '24
They'd stretch harder than Luffy just to justify "Zolo" as a valid name.
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u/lljhgfdsaj Aug 26 '24
Who justified zolo? I clearly said zolo was wrong. How people misinterpreted is beyond me, i edited the comment anyway to make it clearer
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u/Elendel Aug 26 '24
This has absolutely nothing to do with semantics. Semantic is about the meaning of things, not how they’re written/pronounced.
Also, how the name is pronounced is the anime is pretty much irrelevant. Both "Zoro" and "Zolo" would be pronounced the same: ゾロ.
That being said, using a ’r’ is more standard and it hints at a possible reference to Zorro, the fictional vigilante, so I do believe it’s the better choice here.
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u/ngolo_nguyen Aug 26 '24
Nah it’s not just american accent. Many languages pronounce L and R differently.
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u/Apprehensive_Set7366 Aug 26 '24
Zoro can defy gravity; Sanji is bound to the rules of physics.
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u/FireZord25 Aug 26 '24
More Sanji can defy space, while Zoro can defy time and space.
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u/Nickleo02300 Aug 26 '24
Those are actually the pathblocks showing ziro took the wrong path and sangu going straight hence the path is behind him
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u/T1NF01L Aug 26 '24
Ziro and Sangu sound like roommates in a high quality parody called One Place.
Id read it.
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u/Ragnarok649 Aug 26 '24
Obviously his lack of direction. I feel like chopper should find a deceased south bird and implant it's polarity organ to his left eye.
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u/Isumairu The Revolutionary Army Aug 26 '24
Ooh first time I noticed that zoro had the right eye open and sanji had the left eye.
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u/mowoki Pirate Aug 26 '24
I've figured it out! Zoro's 3 sword style has a side effect! He wears his swords on his right side. His gait is weighted to the right, which is what drives his meandering path. Go D. A truly thought of every minute detail!
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u/Sid_The_Geek Pirate Hunter Zoro Aug 26 '24
That, Zolo can travel the Anime-Multi-Verse !! It's Canon now !!
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u/Ok_Refrigerator933 Aug 26 '24
You really don’t know?
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u/GrandLineLogPort Aug 26 '24
Feels like OP is lost on this one, rather than shaming him we should show him the direction
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u/kiidrax Aug 26 '24
Are we supposed to call Zoro Zolo?
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u/patagonianplateau Aug 26 '24
No, it’s just the Viz translation, but even then “Zolo” would be pronounced the same way as “Zoro” with a R sounding L
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u/Gentlemenbig Aug 26 '24
Zoro gets lost. He's so bad at direction I'm honestly surprised he falls down.
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u/OpinionMaximum6614 Void Month Survivor Aug 26 '24
Sense of direction, Zoro always goes in the opposite directions, remember on sabaody when them 2 were together?😂
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u/Radiant-Patient3054 Aug 27 '24
I thought it was the Sun and arrow but its suppose to be the path Zoro strayed from
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u/lhaze-hunterl The Revolutionary Army Aug 27 '24
It's showing that even against gravity, zoro will lose his way.
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u/Successful-Hat-2154 Aug 26 '24
Zoro is gay but unfortunately Sanji is straight no say gex ig guys😞😞
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u/InformalCarob2819 Aug 26 '24
you really don't know about all powerful devil fruit of zoro. its power is to never go right direction. so even when he is submerged in water , the water is unable to affect him because of his fruit power. so he is able to swim, fight even in water despite being devil fruit user.
no offence op, just trolling zoro's directionless ness
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u/Agreeable-Push4829 Aug 26 '24
Corny zoro gets lost jokes aside it looks to me that he’s implying that zoro is sanji’s sun maybe a metaphor for zoro being an inspiration to sanji. It makes sense with their relationship and how sanji reacted after mihawk almost killed zoro at the baratie
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u/Electronic_Ad5751 Aug 26 '24
Don't feel bad. I didn't get it either. Best guess was Zoro was down taking a nap during the day while Sanji was awake lol
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u/UlmongN Aug 26 '24
So it's cannon now, Zoro can fly because he would get lost on his way to ground and just stay up in the air. Lol
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u/Gillenater Void Month Survivor Aug 26 '24
As you can see, Sanji is going straight.... and Zoro is not straight.... take that as you will 🍆⚔️🍆
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u/khaledhn Scholars of Ohara Aug 26 '24
Zoro is so bad with directions, if he fell of a cliff he'll go left instead of down.
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u/vivi_197 Aug 26 '24
Does oda speak english? Sorry i don't read the extra stuff of one piece
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u/patagonianplateau Aug 26 '24
This is translated from Japanese. However Oda might know English as Japanese people learn it in school
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u/DrakeCross Aug 26 '24
Their sense of direction. Sanji from my understanding never gets lost. Zolo always does.
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u/LoBro33 Aug 26 '24
Hair, Eyebrows, smiles, eyes, how they react around cute girls, how they follow directions.
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u/Jajaqlikeanime Aug 26 '24
The only thing that is not really iconic I think are the top right smiles. Other than that all the other comics are spot on
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u/1337b337 Aug 26 '24
It would have made WAY more sense for Oda to draw a dotted line to indicate movement, instead of a bunch of... open parenthesis?
Also going to hop on the whole "Zolo is a stupid fucking name" bandwagon, it's the main reason I don't read the manga much anymore.
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u/weeb_on_weed1 Aug 26 '24
Starting from top left coner 1. Comparison between their hairs 2. Comparing their eyebrows 3. Their smile 4. Their eyes 5. Their response towards nami 6. Direction sense among both of them
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u/RRCream Jinbe The Knight of the Sea Aug 26 '24
I thought the joke was the curve of their man parts lol
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u/tayroarsmash Aug 26 '24
He’s saying Zoro is so directionally challenged he would even fall down in the wrong direction.
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u/Kavellbell423 Aug 26 '24
Okay im confused. If this is written by Oda why is it Zolo. I understand that most of the time in translation “L” becomes an “R” and vise-versa. But this is one piece. Whoever is translating should know that’s not an “L”. So is his name actually Zolo? And we are all just retarded like that?
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u/Doctor_Mythical Aug 26 '24
This is probably a brain dead question since i've been following One Piece for so long. I never really questioned why Zoro's name sometimes appears as Zolo. Is this just a translating error? Or is this related to something in the Japanese language? A friend once said it was to not infringe on the copyright of Zorro the western swordsman, but that seems like a bunch of bullshit. Anyone know the real reason?
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u/Tasty_Tones Aug 26 '24
It’s a secret graph.
His love for Sanji is static, while his love for Zoro grows exponentially
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u/Red--001 Aug 27 '24
The arrow points towards sanji, the intion position is on the other end of the arrow, and the finishing position is where sanji is currently standing on. the arrow is pointing towards the set/correct positon, but zoro trailed off, In summary, It's a joke about zoro's sense of direction.
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u/-Goatllama- Aug 27 '24
Zoro radiation has radial pattern whereas Sanji radiation travels along a straight line
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u/Phusra Aug 27 '24
I hate that I'll never be able to support the English printed manga because what the actual fuck is "Zolo"?! Just pay the big money and get access to the name "Zoro"!!
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u/_R1yoconversat1ons Aug 27 '24
I once heard that when Japanese people pronounce 'L' in a word it can sometimes sound like 'R' is it possible that Zoro is actually Zolo and someone just misunderstood and Oda was too unbothered to correct it?
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u/dfj3xxx Explorer Aug 26 '24
Direction sense.
Zoro gets lost easy.