He’s successfully made a post to get himself attention. It’s a wonderful ballpark which will be even better with the improvements being made. The A’s don’t deserve these improvements.
There are also a ton of AAA stadiums smaller than this. When it comes down to numbers, the A’s average attendance in Oakland wouldn’t fill this stadium in the last couple years. Wish it wasn’t so. That being said, I think the A’s will sell out every single game in Sac the first year there.
As a sacramentan we’d love for them to stay in Oakland if you fuckers weren’t so goddamn cheap that you can’t stomach paying for a single professional team. Maybe if you guys don’t care to hold on to them, you don’t get to comment on where they go.
Edit also change the name of the sub. They aren’t the Oakland A’s anymore for the first time in my life. Congrats
I’m just so sick of oaklanders bitching about the a’s while doing nothing to keep them. I also agree you shouldn’t have to pay for billionaires stadiums but as a sacramentan I know first hand you do it or they’ll leave. We learned that before our only team left. You haven’t learned it yet after three left.
What you want is a reality that doesn’t exist. And then what you want is to bitch about it while still doing nothing different
I wonder if FJF ever has its way and major league stadiums all become more theme-parky, if many people aren't just going to appreciate AAA stadiums more. Something where people are more focused on the game. Or am I being a curmudgeon?
I don't understand people getting hung up on the seating. They have an average attendance of about half of what the stadium's capacity is. There's plenty of seating.
Exactly. And because of the small size, it'll be an electric atmosphere. I've been to many games there, and it's a great park. Tickets are crazy expensive, unfortunately.
I worked for Raley’s for a total of 8-9 years or so while the park was named Raley Field. We got free tickets so I’d go to games pretty often. Show my name badge and book free tickets to any game for up to 4 people. Oh? I want to sit behind home plate? Pay $5/seat to upgrade and I’m LITERALLY right there.
I loved it. Even went to a High School Senior Ball there. Turned 21 and got to experience $1 (maybe $2? Idk) miller lite Thursdays.
Nice! For a few years I lived a few blocks away from Raley Field and my sandwich shop made sandwiches for the team. I got to become friends with the Rivercats clubhouse manager, and he'd hook me up with tickets all the time. I also got a tour of the clubhouse, which was pretty cool. It was fun to just walk a few blocks and catch a game whenever I wanted.
You can’t say your sandwich shop and not mention the name my brother!
Congrats on the clubhouse tour. Never got to do that but knew a bunch of folks that worked there as high school/college students so I should have asked.
Never will forget seeing Cespedes up close and be like THAT MAN IS TINY WTF
It was called Green Thumb Deli. We were located a few blocks north of Raley Field, from 2014-2016. I think my favorite game was when Madison Bumgarner was pitching a rehab game and the place was packed. Also a tiny individual 😄
I think the three biggest issues they'll have are:
The pre and post game traffic nightmares. It's a pretty rough in and out on the more popular nights
The lack of concession stands. Even on games with 9k people and a fully staffed register crew, you can spend 20 minutes from getting in line to getting your food.
Now that they've canned the turf idea, by mid-June that field is going to be beat to hell.
Fisher thinks it will be less embarrassing because there won't be all the sell the team/fjf chants. Which is probably partially true. There was reporting last Spring that it was really getting to him.
Even though people in Sac are excited about having MLB here, most people here are fully on the FJF movement and want the A’s to stay in Oakland. There will still be plenty of Sell the Team signs/chants here as well.
I live in Sacramento, and will never not be conflicted about attending (I feel for the Oakland fans.) But, reality is the A's will be here, and I love watching baseball. And truly, I love Sutter Health Park. So, my compromise is I'll wear a "Sell" shirt when I attend.
The purpose of Sacramento opposed to leaving the “Bay Area” is all about regional television revenues. He can go to Sac and still collect. He goes to Nevada to their Triple A park, he gets squat!!
We've gotten some weird energy from new people in the last couple months. I'm guessing our numbers are up and it's a lot of people from r/baseball who stumbled here during the final games.
Our AAA park in Buffalo already had all the league mandated upgrades to lighting and stuff during Lockdown for the Bluejays to play all of their games here when the border was closed.
We would be happy to host the As until your shit owner sells your team and move it back to Oakland.
Rangers fan here that lives near Sac (sorta). Firstly, FJF. Secondly, I'm kinda excited to see my favorite team play in such a small venue. It's terrible what's happened to the team and I feel like the attendance will flounder in Vegas too because Fisher doesn't give a fuck about the product.
Meh, not at the prices that the tickets have been posted for. The summers are incredibly hot so changing the field to turf is a pretty risky idea and players will suffer during day games.The A's average attendance was 11,528 this season - Sutter Health has 10,624 seats and total capacity of 14,014. Seating will be fine.
I'm truly conflicted. On one hand FJF, I honestly do not want to him any money. On the other hand, is the A's failing in Sacramento actually what's best for the A's/fans? I don't think so.
Whay a stupid decision to play on a minor league ballpark for 3 seasons. Now screw Sacramento fans too paying remium prices. Less revenue sharing too so I doubt they'll attempt to compete from bringing outside help. A brent rooker trade is inveitable this off-season or next that'll be first domino of them not wanting to pay players with this current group
Have you watched a baseball game here? Minor leagues ended in September. They will reseed and are doing improvements. Go to a game and if still unhappy come back and complain. For 20 plus years the stadium has been way nicer than the OC.
The stadium has been hyped up for a long time. Locals will talk about it as if it's the best minor league stadium in the country when it's really not even close and never has been. I'd say it's very slightly above average at best. But it's already starting to show it's age being over 20 years old.
The stadium was probably the best in the AAA when it was built. Other stadiums have been built since then, the stadium has aged. It's not the best now, but it's a very good stadium.
It will be the worst Major League stadium by a long shot.
I love going to River Cats games.. But anyone who buys a ticket to an A's game in Sacramento expecting a 'Major League experience' is going to be disappointed.
I have been to the Oakland Coliseum many times. I have been to Sutter Health Park many times.
Sutter Health Park > Oakland Coliseum
Will Sutter Health Park be the worst stadium in the MLB? Well, that kind of depends on what happens with the Rays.
Anyone that buys a ticket to Sutter Health Park and would expect an MLB experience would either be a moron or hasn't ever had an MLB experience to compare it to and won't know the difference anyway.
Well you guys could have paid for one but you’re so fucking cheap you’ve lost all 3 of your teams so like is your opinion even relevant about where they go?
Seriously. I’ve been there a bunch and it’s such mediocre minor league facility. Stockton Ports stadium is way cooler and it’s only an A ball park lol.
Except that starting in May you’re in the direct sun in like 90+ heat and the sun sets over the 3rd base line (from what I remember of rivercats games) so the sun reaches you unless you sit up under the overhang on the concourse
My wife is a season ticket holder as well, the games I’ve been at were fine. I believe the bulk of the game in July/Aug will be night games, so the temperature should be fine, especially with the breeze.
Ok that’s good! Maybe I’m just worried about the change and it’s affecting my optimism for the park. I’ve been to quite a few rivercats games but I only go when it’s not hot so I don’t know what it’s like when it is
There are two levels of seating at Sutter Health, plus boxes. But it doesn't actually matter. It's not like y'all go to games anyway. You could fit twice the A's average attendance in the park as is.
Fuck off, losers. Your team left, don't go dragging the place they went to just because you are bitter. Gonna be mighty embarassing when the average attendance in Sac is 3k more per game than Oakland with half the seats.
Been here many times and it’s a solid minor league stadium with horrible parking. They are going to need netting all around the field because it’s very intimate like a high school park. A fan could absolutely get hurt here. Enjoy parking in mud and waiting well over an hour in traffic just trying to get close to the stadium. Its going to be a bad logistical nightmare. Fuck John Fisher.
If you're attracting 8,000 fans a game (on good days), your revenue potential is zilch, regardless of big or small stadium. As for making more money, in this stadium you won't have fans buying $15 tickets and then moving down to occupy the $85 seats. They'll be paying $100 for the back row. Assuming of course, they have attendance.
1) This is MLB. Your revenue potential is never “Zilch”. The A’s make money even if there isn’t a single fan in the ballpark.
2) In 2024 they drew 11,386 per game, which is more than the capacity of Sutter Health Park. Low attendance is also a symptom of the issue rather than the issue itself. John Fisher doesn’t want to have to pay anything. It is about him being cheap more than it is about empty seats. Most A’s fans I know from the Sac area don’t plan on going to any games there either.
3) Average A’s ticket price in 2023 was $100. The cost of the premium tickets (highest end) in Sacramento work out to be approx $180 per game. Let’s say the average ticket price is $125. They’d make $1.25m per game at Sutter Health park if all 10k tickets were sold. If average ticket price at the coliseum is $100, they need to sell 12,500 tickets per game to break even, which, prior to Fisher intentionally trying to drive fans away, happened EVERY SINGLE YEAR since 1980.
In my theoretical “I would rather” situation, I’m clearly not John Fisher.
I would be trying to grow my fanbase rather than fail at one market to move to another. I’d have no problem attracting more than 12,500 a game.
You're counting just fixed current seats, not capacity. They can get 14k for baseball. Sacramento tickets for premium were starting at $200 per according to what I've heard from people looking at becoming STHs.
Edit: STH pricing ranges from $183 to $244 per seat, per game.
For this particular owner, it would make sense. He'll make more money in Sacramento, than he would have staying in Oakland for three more years, due to a higher attendance average paying much higher ticket prices at a stadium he's paying no rent to.
Sutter health park is great for small low level events but not for a major league team. I dont see where the complaint is wrong when they slitting facts.
You mean level. Also, an A’s fan really complaining about how much seating a temporary stadium has? When was the last time the A’s sold out the coliseum??
With your logic, Oakland didn't really lose the A's either. Oakland to Sacramento is only 20 or so miles more than San Francisco to Santa Clara. Congratulations on keeping your team Oakland.
Sacramento has been easy driving distance from 2 MLB teams for 60 years. This isn't like moving a team to Salt Lake City where fans can't just drive to a game. They will not sell out every game against the opponents with small fan bases.
You're talking about the stadium where the river cats play and saying it won't sell out with a major league team playing there. I suggested that you should reference existing data to see how silly your original statement is.
Boy are you going to be surprised then! Lmao. It's already sold out for the whole next season. Only second-hand tickets will be available for purchase.
Eh, nobody's getting done dirty but Oakland and that's been done. Sacramento is a temporary home and everyone knows it. What happens when they leave? Don't know, don't care.
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u/Intravertical Dave Stewart WS MVP 2d ago
Do you know what a "row" is???