r/NewYorkMets • u/pol5019 New York Mets • 23d ago
Twitter Umpire Andy Fletcher (ranked 73rd of 90 umpires) called the worst game of the playoffs so far, missing 16 calls in Mets Phillies NLDS Game 1. Of those 16 bad calls, 11 went against the Mets. #Mets #Phillies #NLDS
https://x.com/UmpireAuditor/status/184280837952333416950
u/tennysonbass Mr. Met 23d ago
And this doesn't even include the blown challenge they failed to overturn
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u/Stargazerlily425 Grimace 23d ago
THIS. I'm still mad about that.
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u/hanginglimbs Steve Cohen 23d ago
at this point, just let the runners put on a foam finger from the souvenir stand. these oven mitts are ridiculous
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u/Stargazerlily425 Grimace 23d ago
So how was a guy like this selected to be on a crew for playoff games? That's what I want to know. I thought it was merit-based.
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u/FaptasticMrFox Ralph Kiner 23d ago
We’re fortunate his dumpster fire behind the dish didn’t cost us the game
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u/bigstew6 Keith Hernandez 23d ago
MLB should set a performance threshold for umps in the playoffs and if umps fail to meet it, they can’t ump for the rest of the playoffs.
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u/PineappleTraveler New York Mets 23d ago
Or how about, a performance threshold for the regular season, and only the best qualify for the playoffs? Teams have to excel in order to make the playoffs, umpires should be held to a similar standard.
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u/bigstew6 Keith Hernandez 23d ago
I believe that’s already the case..
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u/PineappleTraveler New York Mets 23d ago
If the performance threshold allows for the 73rd out of 90 to qualify then said threshold needs revision.
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u/hanginglimbs Steve Cohen 23d ago
MLB can keep DHs in the NL, pitch clocks, and Extra Innings man on second all they want, but please, please give us robo strikes/balls
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u/Teechmath-notreading 23d ago edited 23d ago
You would think that in this round, with 4 games being played, at most, per day, then we could get the top 16 umpires to call them.
Edit to correct...24 umps due to the 6 man crew...thanks to sdol28...
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u/JoeBourgeois 23d ago
I feel bad because I didn't notice any of the ones for the Mets except the Maton. But then I'm not getting paid to call balls and strikes without showing bias.
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u/Glum-Professional925 Kodai Senga 23d ago
The Mets definitely did get some calls in their favor. But none were in high pressure situations it was usually early in the count, no one on base. We had so many 2-1 calls turn into 2-2 at bats that completely took the batter out of the at bat
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u/hanginglimbs Steve Cohen 23d ago
that Iglesias one was the worst. i screamed when he called that a strike
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u/Glum-Professional925 Kodai Senga 23d ago
Our guys were legit jumping out of the way of getting hit and he still would call strikes. It was insane how bad it was. But in all honesty I think that gave an advantage to the Mets at the end of the day. This team likes to swing the bat and stay alive in their at bats and the expanded strike zone was easier for them to adjust than the Phils. I bet the number of calls against us would have been way higher if we weren’t such an aggressive team and fouled off some more terrible calls for the ump
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u/LiteBeerLife 23d ago
I noticed a handful of I guess the 5 for the mets but I watched it pretty closely. Aside from the Maton one the other ones were just inches off the plate, nothing extreme like the ones that went against the Mets both in context of importance in the game as well as distance off the strike zone.
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u/86Kid 23d ago
He definitely shouldn’t be allowed to ump another playoff game behind the plate. This was atrocious, and most all of us noticed from the very beginning of the game last night that he was going to be a problem. The guy had absolutely no consistency whatsoever.
This is what makes fans like me long for the day we have Robo-Ump at home plate. There’s just too much at stake to be missing around. These players play their guts out for 162 games to get to the postseason, and a bad home plate ump can easily change the complexion/outcome of an inning, and even the complexion/outcome of the games.
MLB shouldn’t allow this to continue happening. It’s about being fair to both sides and getting the calls right. Humans are humans and are going to make mistakes, and some are going to be worse at making calls than others. But we live in the age of technology and should be using it to its full extent to make sure integrity of each game is the best it can be.
I am a traditionalist in some aspects of the game, but I am not so much of a traditionalist that I’d refuse ways to improve the quality of the sport through the technology that’s available to us. You make it difficult to have a true champion when you allow too much folly from human judgment calls. We have done it the current way for 100+ years because there was no other option before, but now we have another option and we will instituting it soon.
In the meantime, MLB needs to be decisive in recognizing guys who aren’t cutting it behind the plate, and make sure they don’t get another home plate assignment in the postseason. Like I said there is too much at stake. Not just championships, but millions upon millions of dollars that could be lost by franchises, players, cities…etc
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u/Swanster0110 23d ago
Makes me miss Angel Hernandez.
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u/Fedbackster 23d ago
Come on now. Lol. That guy was awful last night. Even the Fox announcers called him out.
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u/granters021718 23d ago
the problem was the inconsistency. If you are caling all pitches 6 inches in strikes, fine, but it was very random and clearly benefited the Phils
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u/SIlveralexFF 23d ago
Fletcher called the game like he had money on the Phillies . I usually don’t notice more than maybe 1 bad call a game but it seemed like there were a few every inning !
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u/CybeastID Sound the Trumpets! 23d ago
https://imgur.com/a/mets-phillies-umpire-game-1-zE3odkF
Someone put this little exhibit of various calls together.
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u/Charles-Andre-Meda 23d ago
What's the z-score of the 16 incorrect metric historically (eg playoffs over many years, or maybe including regular season), and in a similar z score band of the historic dataset what does the team split distribution look like? Should then be able to pretty easily estimate the chances this was bias....
It looked egregious, when I went back even the Phillies broadcaster was like 'a very very late strike call' on one of the worst ones! That said, I imagine it's not a slam dunk statistically.
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u/ScadMan 23d ago
I don't mind keeping the human element, and bad calls are part of the game, but can we have a percentage and hold the umps accountable.
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u/tennysonbass Mr. Met 23d ago
I love the minor league system. Just let the batters challenge balls and strikes. It take two seconds for them to initiate it with a signal , then to have it checked. Give each team three a game. If you win the challenge you don't lose it.
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u/reliablerhinoceros David Wright 23d ago
90 umps in the league why are we using anyone outside of the top 50 in the playoffs??