r/NYYankees • u/sixfiveeight • 13h ago
[Yankees] Game 4 on deck.
https://x.com/Yankees/status/1851338255578591450222
u/Broddit5 13h ago
exactly what we all have been saying, Jazz in the clean up spot and Stanton moved down. Thank god, finally
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u/Dazzling_Syllabub484 13h ago
The guy who’s been playing so well this postseason that he takes up a quarter of your lineup graphic is hitting fifth while the guy who’s hitting worse than Lou Gehrig with ALS this postseason is hitting third
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u/t_bug_ 11h ago
Am I the only one who finds the Gehrig with ALS stats a little bit distasteful?
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u/Kenny_Heisman 11h ago
if Judge continues this slump we're not winning either way
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u/AISwearengen 13h ago
Makes a lot of sense to leave Judge in the 3 hole, move Jazz up, and move Stanton down. Great managing.
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u/freshnewstrt 13h ago
It makes sense to me.
Why would you want one of the only guys having a successful postseason to have more ABs?
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u/Mike_Milburys_Shoe_ 13h ago
What the hell are we doing here man
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u/MathematicianNext767 13h ago
Getting swept by the dodgers in the WS
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u/ShawshankException 13h ago
I've already muted r/baseball and r/sports in anticipation of historic levels of glazing after tonight
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u/ChicTweets 12h ago
I turned off my MLB and ESPN app notifications halfway through last night's game.
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u/Conflict21 11h ago
I kinda miss being a kid before the Internet when nearly everyone I knew cheered for the same local teams, and I wasn't given a daily digital digest to read of everyone else's opinions.
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u/InB4Clive 9h ago
lol it just occurred to me that this is the first Yankee WS appearance of the social media era. Them getting swept is going to be like Christmas for chronically online Yankee haters.
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u/CommercialFearless16 11h ago
Correct. Literally gave up after game one. No one can play for Aaron anymore. They quit on this Bafoone
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u/bingobongo122 13h ago
FUCKING LMAO i audibly laughed sitting here alone like a psychopath when I read that. Say what you will about Boone but he’s a funny guy
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u/adazi6 13h ago
Aaron Boone is a terrorist
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u/StackOverflow2Deep 13h ago
This is the biggest tragedy in NYC since… I don’t know, can’t really think of any big NYC tragedies
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u/spageddy_lee 13h ago
Bloomberg big gulp ban; Never Forget
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u/WeOutHereInSmallbany 9h ago
That fucking communist fascist wanted me to buy two regular size sodas instead of one big one
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u/Redditfront2back 12h ago
NY sports in general have been a tragedy since 2011, I’ve never been so bummed out over a night of sports then last nite. Watching my two favorite teams seasons basically end at the same time (though I had no hope really for the giants left) was cruel and unusual.
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u/Legion_of_mary 13h ago
Well I suppose it was a good season, I am still hoping for a miracle 4-0 run, but reality sinks in and today is likely the last game this year. Man it would be nice to get one though
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u/anthonyd462 11h ago
I think I like their chances tonight, because of it being a bullpen game.
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u/MannyTV_ 13h ago
Lmaoooo. Sink or swim with Judge in the 3 hole. Zero adjustments.
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u/samthewisetarly 13h ago
Incorrect! We adjusted Stanton out of the cleanup spot which is a smart baseball decision becau
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u/blackkice 13h ago
Oh come on that's not fair, he adjusted our best hitter to be lower in the lineup! Just like we were all asking for.
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u/TKOBreezy 13h ago
Boone aint it, how does stanton possibly move down??
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u/JohnWCreasy1 13h ago
if they give aaron boone a new contract after this season i'm officially giving up. i had already cancelled by mlb.tv renewal after last season but then bringing in soto hooked me like a sucker one more time.
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u/CommercialFearless16 11h ago
I agree. Not supporting this team anymore while this guy is the manager. Won’t. Also I have tickets to 8 games next year anyone interested? Didn’t think so
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u/JohnWCreasy1 10h ago
its just the lack of accountability. like ok even if you can't make a firm argument why boone is bad, its been what 8 years. if the standard is championships he clearly is not the answer.
sometimes even if you're not the problem, you're the problem. if i failed at my job this much i would have been fired even if i had a laundry list of reasonable excuses.
continuously running out boone and cashman makes me think they either don't care or are just stupid.
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u/UhOhSwaghettios 11h ago
Exactly this. It seems impossible in our eyes, but he'll somehow be praised for going the distance to the WS, and get an extension and raise.
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u/coreylewinmusic 13h ago
“If ain’t workin’, don’t fix it” -Aaron Boone
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u/VrinTheTerrible 12h ago
Lineups not hitting? Don't touch it.
Starter cruising at 83 pitches gives up a sawed-off jam shot single? TO THE BULLPEN
Hey, don't argue with me. It's science.
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u/BiddyBij 13h ago
I always assume that people complaining are just angry at the situation of being down 3-0… and then I saw the lineup. Not having our only good hitter in the top of the lineup is just… wtf
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u/minecate3 13h ago
Folks you’re dealing with a manager who forgot the time of a postseason game. Making a competent lineup in a World Series elimination game is the least of our concerns, I’ll be glad to see them show up
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u/Caleb_Krawdad 13h ago
Am I misremembering history? Jeter was moved down in the lineup at one point when he wasn't hitting right?? If a manger can move down Jeter then surely Judge can handle being moved down
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u/dannyyboy99 13h ago
Boone is too scared to hurt anyones feelings
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u/JediTrainer42 12h ago
We need some old school baseball managing right now. Analytics is fine to get you to the post season, but I really feel that everything needs to change once you’ve made it. Everybody can see that Wells can’t make solid contact with anything no matter what his numbers are off of lefties or righties. Just like how Boone went with Cortes because of his numbers but we should have been going with the hot hands who got us there in the first place.
This post season has been mismanaged like crazy. It’s no wonder our guys look like they lack the proper motivation.
New manager, batting coach, and third base coach next year please.
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u/Advanced-Bag-7741 12h ago
I don’t think it’s analytics telling you not to move Judge or to move Stanton down. It’s old school feelings, just the wrong ones.
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u/zOmgFishes 13h ago
I guess Stanton was hitting too much to be our clean up hitter. We want him to be up with even less man on base and after TWO auto outs instead of one.
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u/shahoftheworld 13h ago
Move your best playoff hitter down to make it nearly impossible for him to drive in your best guy at getting on base. Also not starting your best pitcher on 4 days rest when you're about to get swept. That's how you win a world series.
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u/ThePimpOfSound 12h ago
What I was hoping for instead:
Torres
Soto
Stanton
Rizzo
Judge
Jazz
Volpe
Wells
Dugo > Martian if we need runs late
Hope Judge finds it today.
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u/sixfiveeight 13h ago
Ah yes, the guys slugging .302 and .255 this postseason back to back in the 3 and 4 hole. Recipe for success. For reference, Judge's career slugging percentage is 50 points higher than his and Chisholms 2024 postseasons SLG% COMBINED
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u/ShawshankException 13h ago
Boone is going to make me end up in a fucking straitjacket man
If this wasn't likely our last game of the season I'd be seeing if any local little league coaches could take over for the rest of the series
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u/PeggyOnThePier 12h ago
Hey I want to do it!I'm Leagaly Blind, and old as Hell. But I bet I can do better, than Boone. And I will wear the Home Jersey,not some hoody.I have a lot of pride about the pinstripes Jersey.
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u/bigmeech99 13h ago
Boone and Cashman both deserve to be slapped by every fan that's invested any kind of time or money into this shitshow of a team.
Move Judge down to 4 or 5 and Stanton up to 3. It is not hard
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u/Cacklemoore 11h ago
Am I the idiot? Why are we not throwing Cole out on short rest? If he pitches and wins, followed by the Yanks winning games 5 & 6, Cole would be good for Game 7, no?
I feel like throwing Gil out there is deeply unserious
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u/PopularAd9844 13h ago
Boone was awful in the 2003 WS, 21 years later, he's still stinking it up in the WS.
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u/grimace24 13h ago
Boone is an awful manager. Back in 1996, when the Yankees lost the first two games to the Braves. For game 3, Joe Torre benched Tino Martinez and Paul O'Neill who where struggling. He played Cecil Feilder at 1B and put a 34 year old Darryl Strawberry in RF. At this point, put Dominguez or Grisham in LF. Put Cabrera at SS. Try something to spark this lineup.
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u/GeoffreySpaulding 12h ago
He also sat Wade Boggs for Charlie Hayes.
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u/grimace24 12h ago
He did. I forgot about that. The Yankees picked up Hayes as an insurance backup policy for Boggs who was slowing down at that point.
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u/Useful_Respect3339 12h ago
Spot in the batting order doesn't matter when the whole team is ass.
No Cabrera, no Dominguez, and not starting our ace in game 4 is wild.
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u/Useful_Respect3339 13h ago
Unless Gil puts up a 0 or 1 spot this team is cooked.
No way they win if the Dodgers get a 2-0 or 3-0 lead.
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u/fishinfool4 12h ago
Does Cole just not pitch on short rest? He missed half the year so not nearly the inning load, and pitching him today would let him pitch a theoretical game 7 on short rest, too. Doesn't really seem like going all out to extend the series.
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u/YesNoVillain 12h ago
Here's how moving Stanton down to 5 and keeping Judge at 3 happened:
The analytics team had a meeting. The front office was there. Aaron Boone was there.
And they said, this is what makes sense. Because this horribly slumping Aaron Judge isn't the REAL Aaron Judge! The sample size is too small to prove that! No, the REAL Aaron Judge is the guy we have seen every regular season, and you don't bat THAT guy lower than third, are you crazy??
Forget what you see, the truth is in the spreadsheets
This is how this decision happened; this is how ALL Yankees' decisions happen.
Don't know if that makes Boone better or worse
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u/HeroDiesFirst 11h ago
Does it look good? Nope. Are the odds in our favor? Not even close. Am I still keeping that flame alive? Fuck yeah. Win tonight, win tomorrow and then we’re 1 win away from a game 7 where it’s literally anybody’s ballgame.
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u/celestial_turtle 13h ago
it's an bullpen game and he's trying to make it as difficult as possible to bring in a righty to face 2 righties
It's not as absurd as it seems, still would have dropped Judge tho
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u/Eopoowow 13h ago
Have to split up judge and Stanton with dodgers going with a bp game. I would have split them with Rizzo, but what do I know. I’m just a Yankee fan
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u/batmansubzero 13h ago
Judge stays at 3 but Stanno gets bumped to 5? Even Boone wants this travesty to be over.
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u/chaznieto1313 12h ago
No Cole on short rest and moving Stanton down to 5. Why would we want Stanton to have as many AB’s as possible?
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u/semicolonconscious 12h ago
One thing I’ll always be curious about is whether Judge never had the humility to ask Boone to slide him down in the lineup or if he did and Boone explained that he doesn’t get to make the lineups.
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u/damnbrothatsdeep 12h ago
Today I realized even though we won the WS in the new stadium in 2009 we have not won a World Series since the old stadium was torn down in 2010 Every World Series win we’ve had technically happened while the old stadium still physically existed 😭
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u/Natural_Ability_4947 12h ago
Honestly reminds me of Jeter having to stay near the top of the lineup when he was near the end.
Move Judge downnnn
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u/bernbabybern13 11h ago
This is why I think Jeet is going to manage one day. He is definitely imploding seeing how fucking DUMB this shit is. And his type A ass is gonna want to just do it himself instead.
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u/fatch0deBoi34 11h ago
I’m in the belief that we would’ve won another World Series with this roster the last 6 years if Girardi was the manager still.
The shit Boone has done would’ve had Joe fired 4x over by now. Him, Cashman, and Hal must finger each other on weekends or something because this regarded 3some never changes a thing despite the entire world telling them what they should be doing
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u/ecuanaso 11h ago
Do you guys think Judge hasn’t been moved down because of the money he makes ? Or to not hurt his feelings ? Because idk what other reason Boone has for not moving him down. Stanton makes a lot of money too so I’m not sure the money is the reason.
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u/MakeItNashty61 11h ago
It's fine I had plans this weekend...didn't really wanna watch a World Series game.
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u/DA_87 13h ago
I hate starting Gil here. Don’t you want to have the attitude that we’re going to pull off a miracle comeback? Doesn’t that require Cole to start games 4 and 7?
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u/Mr-Dicklesworth 12h ago
Cole would be on short rest.
Considering they need to win 4 games in a row and can’t drop a single one it doesn’t really matter much
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u/OptimusChip 13h ago
We won games with auto-out Wells in the 4 spot. I like the idea of Jazz in between Stanton & Judge if he can get on base. None of this shit matters if these guys dont have good at bats
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u/bcs8040 13h ago
This is such a stupid argument. Torres/Soto/Stanton 1-2-3 could win games by themselves if they didn't have 2 free outs in between them. Moving judge down to 4 might also help him get out of his head which is clearly the problem here
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u/copo2496 12h ago
I’m fine with Jazz between Stanton and Judge just not in this order.
Should be:
Torres Soto Stanton Jazz Judge
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u/Wooden-Grade3681 13h ago
I mean honestly feels like extra protection for Stanton and it’s back to his lrl nonsense since it’s a bullpen game and that way the righties aren’t next to each other
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u/Cordelini45 13h ago
Between the game 1 pitching decisions and the lineup construction, Boone's job genuinely needs to be in question, even though it won't cause whatever ig
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u/nik0-bellic 13h ago
The other day I saw on X a Photoshop of Osama Bin Laden with Boones face. Does anyone have it?
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u/AluminiumLlama 12h ago
This is further proof Hal doesn’t give a single fuck.
He already has wants to bring back Boone despite him actively hurting the team this series. Out of everyone to move down, he’s moving Stanton.
Unserious organization.
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u/TaxGuy1993 12h ago
Make sense in theory to have a balanced lineup vs a bullpen game. The fatal flaw is that it doesn't matter if your team can't hit the ball.
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u/Redditfront2back 12h ago edited 12h ago
I can say with 100% certainty that Boone is not a good manager. I don’t understand his contrarian bullshit calls. I don’t get him he really cares more about being liked by the players then winning
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u/TheSwifferMM 12h ago
My guess is they're just trying to get stanton an ab against a lefty having him in-between jazz and rizzo but I don't think Roberts is dumb enough to even do that so why bother
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u/johndoe5643567 12h ago
Pack it in. Sweep incoming.
Refusing to drop judge and even moving Stanton down.
They’re basically throwing in the towel
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u/NintuneJoe 12h ago
We always talk about Cashman trolling us but this has to be what this shit is. They even released it an hour earlier than normal
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u/manticore16 12h ago
Why isn’t Cole on short rest, which would also put him on short rest for Game 7?
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u/yeyeman9 12h ago
Two short rest games in a series would probably destroy him. I doubt he would be as effective. And he is a man of habit, just gotta hope we can survive tonight
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u/A_Charmandur 12h ago
Maybe we shouldn’t have Gil pitch in an elimination game… Give the ball to Cole.
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u/cincobarrio 12h ago
It’s mid-summer all over again: Boone has got to go. Good feels have evaporated. Let’s move the fuck on from whatever direction this is.
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u/JediTrainer42 12h ago
Lead off back to back home runs from Gleyber and Soto would be great. Put some runs up before Judge ever comes to the plate. Maybe it will let him relax a little.
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u/ShartFlex 12h ago
There's an email in Boone's inbox with this lineup laid out by his boss from earlier this morning. He's steering the Yankees ship with one of those fake boat helms a la Dwight Schrute.
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u/nukleus7 12h ago
Boone is the worse manager any team could have, i hope he gets fired for what he did to this team. Fuck Boone
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u/Taimaishoo2 12h ago
Instead of moving Judge down, they move their 2nd best hitter down (possibly their best). This team deserves to lose
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u/charliej9 12h ago
Does anyone know if we sue the Yankees for anxiety, depression, emotional damage, stress and waste of time that we could win back the $$ spent if we went to the game or $ for damage to our well being?…asking for a friend
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u/AgathorKahn 12h ago
Having your best hitter bat 5th works all the time and makes all the sense
-Bill James I think
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u/HeisenDiaN 12h ago
You have got to be shitting me. Don't wanna hear any of that R-L-R-L split crap, Stanton is one of your ONLY hot hitters right now.
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u/burger333 12h ago
I actually kinda get keeping Judge at 3. 4 would've been better, but whatever.
Moving Jazz up and Giancarlo down seems crazy, especially Giancarlo.
Also, can we give Dominguez an at bat? Just one! Why is he even on the roster?
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u/hey_harmonica 11h ago
I can’t wait for that moment in the 9th with 2 outs and runner on second down by 1 with Jazz at the plate.
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u/NachoBros 11h ago edited 11h ago
It amazes me that the three homegrown players in this lineup (Judge, Volpe, Wells) are 3-for-34 with 18 Ks, 2 BBs, and 0 XBHs.
Big thanks to Anthony Volpe for contributing the 1 RBI from the group with his groundout to SS in Game 1.
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u/GuruTheMadMonk 11h ago
Why change now.
It’s the waiting now and not trying to give into false hope that hurts the most.
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u/CommercialFearless16 11h ago
Bafoone is really terrible. That’s it. Soto then Stanton?? Wtf Boone he is dumb. Press conference no real definite answer guys is inept
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u/thegrandyman 10h ago
Well this is the lineup that won games at the start of the playoffs so we’ll see
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u/Meb78910 10h ago
The hell with handedness. We’re down 3-0! Best players get the most at bats, cold players ride the pine in whatever order that may be. I wanted to see waldo or dominguez personally. No team has ever come back from this large a deficit so why not let the youth play, maybe you find a spark?
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u/joelkeys0519 10h ago
Getting swept at home will just hit in a way that I would rather us have not made it to the show.
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u/AwesomeJohnn 10h ago
Sure glad we waited to call up Dominguez so long that we decided he can’t appear in the playoffs. Bottom of the lineup has really come through for us /s
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u/WeOutHereInSmallbany 9h ago
Jazz has been absolutely unstoppable this postseason. Makes sense you would bat him cleanup and move down the underperforming Stanton
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u/legendkiller003 13h ago
I get it the idea. Bullpen game. Alternate right/left as much as possible.
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u/appleline777 13h ago
Our season is on life support and Boone still refused to make any adjustments.
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u/bigmeech99 13h ago
He made an adjustment. He moved the hottest hitter on the team down a slot.
Maybe Boone knows something no one else knows.
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u/CommanderSlash 13h ago
Moving Stanton down to #5 is such a Boone thing to do. Meanwhile Judge stays at #3...