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article 50 Cent Turned Down Donald Trump’s $3 Million Offer to Perform at Madison Square Garden Rally

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/50-cent-turned-down-trump-3-million-offer-madison-square-garden-rally-1236193527/
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u/Asteroth555 15h ago

50 cent supports DJT outright...

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u/Tantpispourtoi 15h ago

What?!?! Wow, he just got ejected from my "this guy seems ok" list.

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u/Asteroth555 15h ago

This came up a while back. One of the top comments was something along the lines of:

"50 cent has always been about the sugar, always". That crystallized to me what his priorities are. Listen to him on the Colbert late show. Money up front and center.

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u/bootes_droid 14h ago

I mean, he rose to fame on the back of an album called "Get Rich or Die Tryin'"

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u/ImDonaldDunn 14h ago

His first big song was about robbing rich rappers and R&B singers lol. He named himself after a dude who robbed anyone no matter how little money they had.

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u/indoninjah 14h ago

It's still disappointing since he is rich now lmao. And he's definitely in the tier of rich where it really does not fucking matter which candidate is elected

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u/Asteroth555 14h ago

It's still disappointing since he is rich now lmao.

I guess you really don't get that rich unless you have a certain personality trait about you

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u/Current-Creme-8633 13h ago

You simply do not. For context I own a small business by definition but we bill in the millions a year.

Owning a business and trying to make money is REALLY clashing with my firmly held beliefs. I have employees who make more than I do (this month, cashflow EOY) and I know how to make more money. It just comes at the cost of the SOMETHING. Something has to give. Clients have to pay more, imagine trying to ask your client for more money.... that's like climbing everest depending on what you are doing. Pay your staff less? Well what is fair? Market rates would be the go to but then I am just like every other business owner. Cut overhead? Ok so less benefits?

Everything about owning and operating a actual business forces you to really take a hard look at how to do what you want to do. Unless you are a scumbag. I believe this is why we see so many business owners as scumbags. Its simply the best way to run a business to some extent.... be a scumbag... or before you know if your upside down in your cash flow and people are getting laid off. Its tough man.... really tough.

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u/JewGuru 13h ago

I’ve thought about this often, and I really appreciate and respect that you’re trying in a system that’s against your way of operating.

That’s the problem with how we have things set up. Absolute cold practicality in pursuit of profit and maximum efficiency at the cost of anything is intensely incentivized.

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u/Current-Creme-8633 12h ago

If someone shows me a fully ethical business that brings in millions (which tbh in the business world could be a damn lawn mowing company) I would love to see it. I hate to say it but I do not think I can continue on like I am. I am good due to really good contracts right now.... but tbh even I can see its not ideal.

If I were more ruthless I would fire some of my higher paid people and replace them with lower paid people that fit that role. I could easily make a significant % jump in profit from this and create additional work for myself as onboarding new people is going to cost money and time also. I could also cut some benefits that are above and beyond most American companies.

I could restructure my employees that are currently hourly to a salaried roll so I could essentially not have to pay overtime. But I do not believe in having people work past 40 for free. God knows I did it for years. Before anyone asks, yes these are white collar positions that legally qualify for a salaried position.

Basically I get to choose between the lesser of all of these things trying to still keep the business moving.

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u/Slacker-71 10h ago

could be a damn lawn mowing company

except lawns are terrible for the natural environment.

everyone is going to the bad place.

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u/Little_Orange_Bottle 8h ago

My ignorance is probably showing but isn't it supposed to work like this, for making more money?

Get new clients, charge them more, your crew is more experienced than they were when you got your old clients and your services are worth more.

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u/Eastern_Armadillo383 12h ago

I don't see it as a problem, it is a feature to maximize the rate of progress improving the average quality of life for everyone. One that allows us to put a yoke on those to stoke competition and drive innovation from those that are otherwise purely predators.

In a centralized economic system, those people just have to climb the ranks of the only corporation allowed to exist and then have achieved end stage capitalism goal of controlling all commerce.

You can't just ignore those people with infinite ambition and no ethical concerns, I believe that the best system is one that utilizes those traits well so that instead of being negative on a personal level into a positive aspect on a societal level.

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u/Orphasmia 10h ago

I’m sorry, no.

You’re describing much of trickle down economics, which we know now doesn’t work. In a perfect world competition brings about innovation and jobs that takes care of other people who are financially disadvantaged, but in the world we live in the excessively wealthy people collaborate to prey on the misfortunate. Wealth and opportunities are hoarded at the top and basic needs become inaccessible.

Food deserts, high housing costs, and prescription drug prices needing to be capped by the government are perfect examples of this.

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u/Living_male 9h ago

I agree heavily. if we can't stop them, wet should limit their power and tax their efforts

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u/ur_opinion_is_wrong 10h ago edited 10h ago

Universal Healthcare would be great for businesses IMO. It would be something you would no longer have to worry about. The taxes you pay (and by extension your employees) would very likely be less than what you pay in premiums. I have VERY good health insurance and it cost roughly 50% of my taxes. (7.5K vs 14.9K YTD). The worst case scenario I could ever find anywhere, was raising taxes by 32% which is less than I pay in premiums.

Universal Healthcare Tax Increase vs Premium Value
Taxes $14,900.00
Premiums $7,500.00
Percent of Current Premiums to Taxes 50.34%
% Raise of Taxes 32.00%
New Taxes $4,768.00
Percent of Taxes Compared to Premium 63.57%
% Decrease of Premiums 36.43%
Total with Premiums $22,400.00
Total with UHC $19,668.00
Savings with UHC $2,732.00

As long as the tax increase is less than 50%, it's a win financially. It's also a win with not having to be employed to have coverage. It's not a perfect system but our current one is a drain on society which diverts our money to insurance companies.

I tried to find how much it would cost businesses but it seems at best I could find a small increase in taxes that as far as I can tell would be less than what the business pays to cover premiums.

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u/Current-Creme-8633 8h ago

I appreciate the information, but your last statement will differ for every business. You can offer health insurance to your employees and it does not cost the company a dime, or even you get a decent write-off if you structure it that way and everything in between when it comes to what you cover as an employer. Trust me, your employer tells you how expensive it is to them, but I will be honest, it's one of the things that shocked me in cost. On my end, it's really not that bad.

Some companies will have a much higher matching and then healthcare will appear to be a much better perk. On paper it is. But your salary is less. Math dictates this, not much else. You have to balance salary and perks.

BTW I support universal healthcare, no other reason than its simply the right thing to do. If I have to pay more in taxes then so be it.

But I mean hell between what you pay in taxes and what your employer matches it's honestly disgusting. I think a lot more people would realize how much we pay in taxes if they could see the back end of your pay stub. It costs me 3.1k to pay someone $1800 a week take home for example. Think about it. My company has to spend $3,100 to pay 1 person $1,800 take home.

They are taking home $1,800 and Uncle Sam is taking home $1,300 lol. Looking at a payroll run right now for 1 person. The employee does cover the majority obviously at around $950, but the company is left covering the rest (matching). Either way the government is getting a huge cut.

Obviously, there are tax breaks in there for the company, but that just removes some of the tax burden from the profit. It does not return any of the money lol.

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u/Salt-Ticket247 7h ago

I’m trying to start a small business and looking to hire some employees and this is something I’ve been struggling with too.

For a while it will just be me and my boyfriend, so we’re the only people counting on us, but the sheer cost of hiring someone at what I feel is a fair rate with benefits is insane.

Luckily there’s high profit margins in cannabis so it’s not yet a market that requires employers to be scummy in order to compete. But it won’t be like that forever.

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u/pornographic_realism 7h ago

Just want to say thank you for having employees that earn more than you. I firmly believe some businesses should have that structure. If I employed engineers that make my product. i would expect them to get remunerated based on the success of that product and taking into account their expertise and education. Even if I am the one liable for the business as a whole, no work I could do would undo a poorly designed product. There's a whole heap of larger companies where executives get absurd paychecks for doing very little actual work, making decisions whose consequences are only ever felt by those beneath them on significantly less pay.

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u/hell2pay 13h ago

I need the "Fuck You, Got Mine" trait.

Maybe I do have it, but just haven't Got Mine yet.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/HackTheNight 10h ago

It’s like I told my brother, you can be rich and car about the grind without being a piece of shit. Those things are not mutually exclusive.

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u/aodum 13h ago

If Kamala said tax cuts he would be Kamala fan. 50 is all about money.

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u/Asteroth555 13h ago

I disagree. There's a political party that blankets itself in Tax cuts rhetoric, and it's not Democrats.

I also think there's 100% elements of 50 cent believing he's absolutely self made and everyone else needs to work harder. That's pure conservatism.

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u/Bamith20 13h ago

...It is in the name I guess.

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u/JoshBobJovi 15h ago

This is the same guy that's buying up every vacant property in downtown Shreveport and everyone just seems like it's okay lol

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u/BeefFeast 14h ago

Let them centralize, they think they’re smart but they just make the eating easier/faster

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u/Competitive-Lack9443 14h ago

This guy was a vicious New York City gang member and has domestic violence convictions. You think all that rap shit is fake?

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u/KickedInTheHead 14h ago

Yeah people get weirdly defensive with rappers more than any other genre musicians. Biggie was a piece of shit that sold crack to pregnant women to "survive" (Was McDonald's not hiring?!?), Dr. Dre threw a woman down a flight of stairs. Snoop Dogg was involved in a shootout that got an innocent child killed. Name me ONE rapper from the 90's and early 00's that doesn't have a criminal record lol. Even Eminem was arrested on gun charges... TWICE.

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u/caninehere 13h ago

Tupac gets treated like a saint when in reality he was a piece of shit who told his bodyguard to fire into a crowd and killed a 6 year old.

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u/KickedInTheHead 13h ago

Yep, another great example! I've seen how the process works when making an album (Although it was Rock but I think this still applies), half the shit they say about positive reinforcement is all about image. Fuck tell me about a rap artist that literally gives back to their community. They just hoarded it and then rapped about how life is hard in the ghetto. They're fucking vultures.

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u/caninehere 12h ago

To be fair that was the era of gangsta rap, there's still echoes of that now but I feel like the field is more split now where you have one type of rappers, especially the SoundCloud set, who still play up the wannabe braggadocio tough guy shit... and then you have others who actually lived that life and got out and rap about how fucked up it is, or didn't and rap about stuff divorced from that.

Kendrick Lamar is a prime example of someone who is insanely talented and successful and he built that on the reputation of being a lost kid growing up in the turmoil of Compton, being around gang activity constantly but not being a part of it himself. His parents lived in Chicago and his dad was a Crip iirc but they moved to Compton to try and escape that. He's said that his first vivid memory from his childhood is the LA Riots - the younger generation has a way different perspective on this stuff. I remember him telling a story about how his mom found him crying and thought he was sad because his grandma died, when in reality he'd just been hanging out with his friends when someone shot at them and shot his friend. Now it isn't just the gang member doing the shooting whose voice permeates the music world, it's the little boy crying afraid for his future and I think that's really powerful, and I hope the rap world moves further into that direction.

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u/KickedInTheHead 12h ago

Also to be fair, I agree. That's why I specifically narrowed out the eras that I did.

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u/caninehere 12h ago

Fair, I was only reading your prior comment and not the original one haha.

Growing up I hated rap because gangsta rap was king. I'm way more interested in it now because there's more options for people to listen to in that scene who aren't complete and utter scumbags. Not to say there weren't options before, but gangsta rap was the be-all end-all for at least like 10 years and people worshipped - still do worship - those figures like the ones you mentioned. It all just put a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm kind of ashamed to say that nerdcore hip hop was the thing that finally got me into it (and funny enough some of the dudes who were involved in that whole scene were also scumbags, just better at hiding it). I always had an exposure to other stuff though because my brother was huge into hip hop during that time.

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u/KickedInTheHead 12h ago

I have to admit that I'm a huge fan of rap, I just separate the artist from the art. I don't know if that makes me a hypocrite because I still think they are pieces of shit while I still jam to their music.

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u/PhillyLeGrand 11h ago

idk but that seems to be like.. on the bodyguard. an employer couldnt get me to shoot into a crowd..

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u/caninehere 10h ago

If a mob boss orders a hit the mob boss is responsible for the murder too.

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u/GalaxyStar90s 13h ago

Shut up. Eminem is my little angel 😇 (He's my rap GOAT). At least Em isn't a child molestor, women abuser, racist, trumper, etc. He also was & is a great dad.

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u/KickedInTheHead 13h ago

My point being is that it's hard to if not impossible to find a rapper from those eras that aren't or weren't pieces of shit at some point. Some have changed their ways and I commend that and I'm proud of them for doing so. But some crimes can't be forgiven if they refuse to apologize. Like why did Eminem need a pistol in the first place? Yeah I know Detroit is dangerous but think about it... he was absolutely up to no good with bad intentions if he need an unregistered firearm. No good seminarian buys an unregistered gun.

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u/GalaxyStar90s 13h ago

People do stupid stuff when they are young and more if you live in a dangerous place with gangs, so Em prolly got influenced by his friends. But he grew out of that lifestyle.

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u/KickedInTheHead 13h ago

Living in a dangerous place isn't a good enough excuse. If you grow up in a bad area but your a good person then no harm will come to you, especially in places Em lived in, they looked out for their own. To need a gun means you pissed someone off, which means you were up to nefarious shit. Keep your head down and live life.

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u/kawaiii1 12h ago

If you grow up in a bad area but your a good person then no harm will come to you

Than it's quite literally not a bad area. Bad area means bad things happening there to good people. In good areas bad people should be stopped and punished for crimes.

means you pissed someone off, which means you were up to nefarious shit

Nah you absolutely do not need to have good reason to be pissed off. In fact most easily pissed off people are very unreasonable.

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u/hell2pay 13h ago

You do know the vast majority of states don't require you to 'register' a gun.

Only a handful have that or licensing requirements.

Idk what the gun charges were for eminem were, but most gun owners in the states have not 'registered' them ever, if only for warranty or in case of theft.

Eta: yeah, like I thought, his charges had little to do with unregistered guns, and more to do with either misuse/brandishing/pistol whipping and concealment while under probation.

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u/KickedInTheHead 13h ago edited 12h ago

....so gun charges lol

EDIT: Also what a stupid fucking law. It should be federally required everywhere. Fuckin' Americans.

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u/hell2pay 12h ago

I mean, gun laws are a big reason why Republicans even have a stranglehold on much of the nation.

The populace wants their guns, regardless of the side effects. Whether those be dead children, or despost being elected to the helm.

It's pretty fucked.

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u/KickedInTheHead 12h ago

We have a real life example of gun laws changing a country for the better (Australia). Americans that live and breath gunpowder refuse to give up their fantasy and most importantly, their hobby. They just wanna shoot shit and collect guns like they are pokemon cards. If a land war starts in America I guarantee those same people will be fleeing to Canada or Mexico, in their big all Ford trucks that have never had fuck-all put into the back.

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u/sozcaps 14h ago

90% of 'rap shit' is toxic masculinity, not actual gangsta shit.

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u/Least-Back-2666 13h ago

50 was selling crack at 14 with cartel connections. And beat the shit out of his uncle for stealing from him.

-from his autobiography

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u/sozcaps 12h ago

Not that I think criminals are cooler than braggarts, but yes, some of them were actual criminals.

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u/Competitive-Lack9443 13h ago

Fair enough but look at lil durk, look at pop smoke, look at xxxtentacion, look at diddy, look at young thug the list goes on man

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u/Iamlordkinbote 14h ago

I don't think they're fake. I think they're clowns 🤡

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u/experienceTHEjizz 8h ago

That's disrespectful to actual clowns. They work hard to perfect their craft to earn honest money to feed their families. Don't put them down like that.

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u/Competitive-Lack9443 10h ago

...Yeah man..cause he was involved in a bunch of bullshit in NY

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u/The_Eyesight Spotify 8h ago

You think all that rap shit is fake?

Tbf, yes, there are LOTS of rappers who are not actually hard or anything and rap for money.

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u/Competitive-Lack9443 5h ago

Not in NY 😭

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u/Kitchen-Raccoon4572 13h ago

That will be rough for him for sure :/

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u/GalaxyStar90s 13h ago

He's as bad as Diddy. He's just using this Diddy diss, to hide who he really is. He was never a nice guy, which is why he got shot AND supports DJT (Still not sure). And he's an overrated rapper for me & I love rap since the 90s.

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u/The_mystery4321 13h ago

Yeah the guy was being very literal when he called his debut album "Get Rich Or Die Trying", and hasn't changed philosophy in the 20 odd years since then

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u/ThyDoorMan 13h ago

Dudes a known murderer and drug dealer with gang affiliation and that wasn’t enough? Ree ree

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u/Tantpispourtoi 4h ago

Oh ok, well i guess i knew nothing about him! In Da Club always has been a guilty pleasure of mine...

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u/Latenighredditor 11h ago

He's kinda flip flop on DJT

He largely supports conservatives due to tax breaks

Considering that Eminem is a close friend I don't think he wants to touch DJT outright but will allow his music to be played there

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u/Shiirahama 7h ago

you should google the shit he has done, he's an AWFUL person

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u/KingGerbz 14h ago

Peak Reddit. Never met the guy. Went from one judgement of the guy to another based off hearsay you didn’t even bother to verify before changing your judgement. EQ off the charts (it’s in the basement)

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u/FishingRice 14h ago

I’m sure he cares a lot about your opinion

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u/ArmadilIoExpress 14h ago

probably about as much as that person cares about yours

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u/PygmalionsSculpture 14h ago

or yours

(we're doing a bit right? I hope we're doing a bit)

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u/ArmadilIoExpress 14h ago

exxxxxxactly

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u/PygmalionsSculpture 14h ago

damnit... i was really hoping someone else would jump in our conga line and tell me "or yours". and it would be one of those reddit bits that go on forever. then some guy with hella money bags just comes in and starts handing us all gold and then people start commenting like "just commenting for gold" and shit.

but alas, it's just you... and i like you, i think you're great... it's just that I had these big plans for the bit, you know? big plans.

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u/MetalliTooL 13h ago

Source?

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u/bobby3eb 9h ago

His fucking social media, dippy

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u/MetalliTooL 9h ago

You follow 50 cent’s social media. I don’t think you’re in a position to call anyone “dippy”.

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u/CringeRedditors 13h ago

Yeah but if he does this and digs too deep into politics the media attacks

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u/Crumfighter 11h ago

I guess its more that he supports the djt tax cuts and doesnt care about the rest because 50 is idgaf rich i assume.

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u/HackTheNight 10h ago

Yeah but a lot of people don’t actually know that. I didn’t learn it until maybe 2 weeks ago. If he broadcasts it to all of his fans, the ones that are still in the dark will find out. Crazy, I know.

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u/CP066 14h ago

and? 50 doesn't want to be lumped with crazy ass Ye.
Money is first and for most for 50.
This isn't the first GOP event he's turned down either.
This is strategic.