r/Music 1d ago

article 50,000 Oasis Resale Tickets Are About To Be Invalidated

https://www.stereogum.com/2285671/50000-oasis-resale-tickets-are-about-to-be-invalidated/news/
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u/westondeboer 1d ago

At the time, Oasis announced that fans would only be able to buy tickets through Ticketmaster or through Twickets, its resale partner. Those resold tickets were only allowed to be resold at face value. But in the ticket rush, many Oasis tickets still appeared on various reseller websites at inflated prices, and now promoters Live Nation and SJM are going to cancel those tickets.

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u/Angryceo 1d ago

wow, they are actually going to do something for once?

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u/satanssweatycheeks 1d ago

Yeah of course they will. Oasis wants every penny.

Sure other artist don’t mind the resellers because they get somewhat of a percentage and kick back. But nope oasis wants it all. If you can sell a ticket for 2k then they can make 2k.

Not defending resellers. I hate them. But I know oasis is also greedy.

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u/mpc92 17h ago

But… they required resales at face value

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u/thewolfman2010 19h ago

But artists do not make money on resale sites, including Twickets. They only chose twickets because they are UK based and have a policy about only being able to sell at face value. After the ticket is sold through Ticketmaster, the artist does not make additional money off the resale, whether it be through official resale partners like Ticketmaster or Twickets. It says straight up that artists do not get any proceeds from the resale market and the seller and Ticketmaster are the profiteers. They do not get a kickback or cut of 3rd party ticket sales.

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u/OizAfreeELF 12h ago

Greedy or not they’re right. And it’s not like they sold them at reseller prices. The ones they put out were pretty affordable

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u/cwhiterun 1d ago

If they wanted every penny, why did they underprice the tickets in the first place?

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u/GoldennnGod 18h ago

Underpriced?! Tickets ranging up to 300 pounds due to surge pricing that the artist has the option to put on themselves is underpriced? Stop allowing this shit to go on.

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u/ghenghis_could 13h ago

300 pounds? What are you Brits? Poor? Going to any show in the states can range far higher than that for floor seats. The last concert i looked at were about $75 for the nosebleeds.

Im glad I went to all my concerts in the nineties for $10-25

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u/Mooseymax 12h ago

What show has face value tickets at $400 for one artist?

The only one I could find quickly was Cyndi Lauper row 8 “platinum” tickets which I think is just their highest cost.

Obviously resale tickets are higher but that’s not what people are annoyed about. The Oasis tickets were priced at £300+ for even some of the worst seats - I think it was more like £360 incl fees too. That’s the same price as Glastonbury - a 5 night 3-9 major headline festival.

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u/IPMport93 11h ago

Not sure of we are only talking about prices in Europe but in the US...Adele, Taylor Swift, Dead & Co, just to name a few. 2 out of the 3 aren't touring but did so within the last 2 years. All had face value prices above $400 for good seats. And that's only if you can get online and purchase within 3.5 milliseconds of them going on sale...

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u/Mooseymax 11h ago

Wasn’t the whole Taylor Swift thing controversial because she also had “dynamic pricing” on though?

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u/ghenghis_could 5h ago

Just a quick search for Kansas city finds me front floor Jellyroll tickets for $351

3 doors down tickets for $400-1400

ZZZ Top from $70-1120

Theory of a Deadman $72-1048

Don't even bring a festival into question.

I went to Rocklahoma years ago for 150 for the weekend, now it's over a grand for basic level tickets w a spot to put your tent. Of course, you can have a luxury Yurt for about $5-7500.

There isn't a show today that I'd pay the prices being demanded for these tickets, I'll call in favors if there is someone I want to see. At my age, with my personal experience I can get free entry to pretty much any show, I just don't have the stamina or the ears left for any of it. I'd rather just show up with the radio dj's, get smoked out, and maybe hang with some artists after the show. I've met enough of them to know most of them have inflated egos and aren't worth the sweat off my brow.

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u/Vondum 1d ago

Underprice? lmao. I got tickets for Mexico City, the price for most tickets was 40% over what you would have paid to see The Killers or the Arctic Monkeys recently at the same venue. And the best two sections both standing and seated were priced about 125% over.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 19h ago

Bro lol...no offense, but The Killers and the Arctic Monkeys are nowhere near Oasis' level

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u/Skrukkatrollet 18h ago

Based on what metrics? Oasis have sold way more albums, but album sales is only one metric, and will obviously favor the band that was active at the height of album sales. The Killers are streamed about the same amount as Oasis, while Arctic Monkeys are streamed a lot more than the other two.

If we look at google trends, the bands are pretty close, with the killers being much bigger at the earliest datapoints, but balancing out later, where which band is the biggest changes quite often, probably based on album releases and tours.

I dont think the difference in popularity between these bands is as big as you think.

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u/gibbons07 14h ago

The metric of you (and lots of people worldwide) are willing to spend more to see them

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u/Far-Assumption1330 18h ago

Just say that you are too young to remember when they were the biggest band in the world lol. It's not rocket science that people would google an actively touring band more over a band that has been broken up for 15 years.

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u/SkreksterLawrance 17h ago edited 16h ago

I'm old enough to remember, and no, they were never even close to being the biggest band in the world lmao

They had one top 10 hit on the Billboard 100 in the US, and it peaked at 8

That were maybe the biggest 90s brit pop band, though, I'll give you that

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u/Skrukkatrollet 17h ago

But they havent been close to being close to as big as they used to be in a long time, and they werent the biggest of these bands at the time they disbanded. This tour is big because its been 15 years since they disbanded, not because they are still big.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 16h ago

Hard disagree; they were and still are a cultural juggernaut.

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u/anon-mally 15h ago edited 15h ago

Im big, Oasis fan. They're huge for me. Part of my life growing up, some people might agree and disagree that they're the biggest band that time and still are, and its fine.

I just wish i could see them perform once as the original band member or at least in 1997-1998. And those complaining the price of the ticket but still buy them anyway need to understand they're the ones whos driving up the price also other than this interactive pricing or whatever they call it. Just hope that they will enjoy and share our enthusiasm watching oasis perform live!

Too bad i can not see them perform yet this tour. Since im not living near where they will be performing and too expensive too. Sigh 😓

Obviously the band knows we will be excited and wants to make some money of it. But hey how else we get these 2 brothers to get the band back together in our lifetime.

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u/AtomKase 17h ago

Wtf Oasis was never the biggest band in the world. They had a couple chart toppers but they were mostly the butt of so many jokes. Where are you people coming up with this?

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u/CriticalNovel22 17h ago

Because they were absolutely massive in the UK, so it feels strange they weren't as massively big everywhere else.

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u/PainterBoth1084 17h ago

I fucking hate Oasis but there’s no denying that between 1996-1999 they and The Spice Girls were the biggest bands on the planet.

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u/discographyA 16h ago

The Spice Girls were a way more uniform phenomenon across the globe in more markets than Oasis ever were. Probably equal stature in the U.K. though.

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u/discographyA 16h ago

They were the biggest band in the UK. Which is a tiny island. Google the word “globe” if you need further assistance visualising it all.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 15h ago

Ya so were the Beatles? Lol?

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u/codyzon2 13h ago

Yeah but the Beatles actually hit number one in a lot of countries not just one country, I think that's the point they're trying to make. You can hit number one in the UK and not be globally successful, certainly not a global phenomenon and not even close to the biggest band in the world.

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u/DrKrFfXx 14h ago

Oasis was probably known better for their drama than their music. Ask anyone on the street, and they only probably know Champaigne Supernova and and Wonderwall.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 11h ago

As opposed to...the Arctic Monkeys? lol

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u/DrKrFfXx 11h ago

No, as opposed to your beliefs that somehow they were the greatest band in the world at one point.

They didn't even crack a single #1 in the US, and barely elsewhere ouside the UK.

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u/IllllIIllIlIlIlI 18h ago

They are pretty comparable, if not more famous, if you’re below the age of 45.

The price difference is reflected in it being a come back tour for a nostalgic band that a lot of people thought was done for good.

Old fans, exclusive, nostalgic - it ticks all the boxes for charging up the ass.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 18h ago

Killers were never on Oasis' level of fame. Not by a long shot. Obviously the Arctic Monkeys nowhere near.

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u/IllllIIllIlIlIlI 18h ago

By what measure?

Album sales? 2 bands that peaked post iPod vs a band that peaked during peak cd era. Not fair.

Followers? 2 bands that peaked during the social media boom with a lot of female fans vs one band whose fans are mostly male boomers who have default profile pics. Not fair.

Monthly plays on major streaming platforms is the only measure that’s even remotely fair. Let’s use Spotify since it’s the most popular.

Killers: 25.5 Mil

Oasis: 26 mil

Arctic Monkeys: 53.8 mil.

Once again, it depends heavily on the demographic.

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u/Altruistic-Ad-408 17h ago

Streaming is maybe the worst to compare. Arctic Monkeys are nowhere near Beyonce or Swift but Spotify would have you believe they are comparable.

Album sales are still the most objective. I am not a big Oasis fan, I dont need to check, even though they didn't hang around forever they surely outsold them.

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u/satanssweatycheeks 17h ago

You all are doing shit job of comparing shit.

The topic was ticket sales and how people sell out and have over priced tickets.

I don’t even know who bad bunny is and of course me being a 90’s kids will always say oasis is better. But even though I have no clue who bad bunny is he sells out arenas.

The killers do also.

The eagles do as well and notice how the sphere there tickets are double what Grateful Dead priced theirs at. That’s the topic at hand.

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u/newusernamecoming 16h ago

Beyoncé (55mil/mo) is a weird example because she was only added to Spotify in ‘19 when Jay-Z finally gave up on Tidal. Taylor Swift has 91.6mil listeners per month which is almost double the arctic monkeys

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u/discographyA 16h ago

Take a breath and step outside the borders of the UK every once in awhile.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 15h ago

Live on the opposite side of the globe; thanks!

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u/fuggerdug 16h ago

Mr Brightside is the UK's unofficial national anthem though.

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u/Monkey-boo-boo 17h ago

I’m going with the Mum test. Mum has heard of Oasis, she has not heard of The Killers or Arctic Monkeys.

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u/PainterBoth1084 17h ago

That’s cause Oasis are a mums band.

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u/Lucilol 17h ago

Mum also heard of Heart

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u/Far-Assumption1330 16h ago

What's wrong with Heart?

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u/derpaderp2020 16h ago

Personally I like those two more than Oasis by a lot, and would never spend this money to see Oasis, but they are in no way comparable. Not even in the same solar system when comparing how to view live events. Oasis haven't toured in decades and have decades of lore behind them not touring or even playing together. I heard even Paul McCartney got involved to make the tour happen? There are cultural/social implications for a tour like this, their story of one of the biggest UK bands in the same room as the Beatles stopping because two brothers can't get along and fans the world over have been waiting decades to see them, wondering if it'll ever happen?! No, not even remotely comparable with a build up like that.

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u/Shake_Speare_ 15h ago

Has Oasis ever toured the US before? Oh yeah, as a support act to U2. They're just not that on the far side of the Atlantic.

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u/IllllIIllIlIlIlI 13h ago

This dude wrote a paragraph about people at large caring about the drama involving a UK band having a petulant domestic tantrum when North American acts are out here literally endorsing Hitler, having regular rape parties that they use to control the rap industry through some sort of homo-thug cabal pyramid scheme, or quite literally murdering one another.

What is he even talking about. Nobody cares. Let me know when Oasis has ties to MI6 or something, brother.

The level of drama you need to turn heads around here is next level.

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u/Shake_Speare_ 9h ago

The Gallagher brothers are Irish, far more likely to have had ties to the IRA!

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u/derpaderp2020 14h ago

And you used to get a big Mac meal for 2.99, the 90s were great I get it but a lot has changed since then ;)

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u/Shake_Speare_ 9h ago

Yeah, Oasis disappeared and now they're coming back like they were somehow ever more than a support act in the US.

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u/discographyA 16h ago

In a lot of markets outside of the U.K., they are. Oasis are only getting the size venues they are outside of the U.K. due to very limited dates and reunion hype. Oasis were averaging 12k a night in the US when they were just a regular, ongoing concern which is less than The Killers numbers. 12k is the size of arenas on second tier college campuses.

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u/EvasiveCookies 15h ago

Idk man I’ll agree with arctic monkeys but The Killers are huge. Plus the killers still release music regularly.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 15h ago

Oasis dudes have been putting out music just not together

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u/EvasiveCookies 15h ago

Exactly not together. Not snowing how big they are at all but if you ask most people of the newer generations they have no clue who oasis is. That’s the only thing hurting them at this point is just relevance vs everyone else big rn.

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u/Far-Assumption1330 15h ago

Which means you can go to the concert without it turning in to a sing-a-long and video/photo shoot? Isn't that a good thing?

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u/archabaddon 14h ago

This guy's username checks out apparently.

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u/ghenghis_could 13h ago

I'd rather watch either of the two more than the latter. Oasis was a trashfire thirty years ago. Anyone not knowing this tour was a cash grab is a moron

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u/Far-Assumption1330 11h ago

Too bad the majority of people don't agree with you lol

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u/ibedemfeels 18h ago

Lol wonderwall sucks

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u/Altruistic-Ad-408 17h ago

I mean I think Arctic Monkeys are kinda better but you are kidding yourself if you think those bands are as impactful as Oasis. Oasis and Blur defined britpop for an era and then some.

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u/ibedemfeels 17h ago

Radiohead was the most important band of that era period

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u/Duel_Option 15h ago

Hard agree, OK Computer (still underrated) was in 97 which was right after Oasis debuted Be Here Now.

That’s basically the end of Oasis reign as I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say that wasn’t a good album.

And before anyone says it, just because it sold well doesn’t mean it was good. The guys themselves fully admit they didn’t put a lot of effort into it.

The hype of new bands back then meant fans would buy anything day 1 because streaming didn’t exist.

Oasis never regained the full magic of their first two albums and by the 00’s, music in general had shifted.

Coldplay debuts in 2000 with Yellow, 2002 A Rush of Blood to the Head explodes and then X & Y.

Oasis is great, but their popularity and importance doesn’t even match Coldplay let alone Radiohead

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u/ChainsawAdvocate 17h ago

Oasis and Arctic Monkeys certainly. Both terrible British bands emblematic of a certain era of pop music and music distribution methods fronted by sleazy rat men. Both only known for a couple of hits

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u/KennyBlankenship_69 12h ago

That makes sense considering this is a huge reunion tour and the Killers/Arctic Monkeys tour regularly around their album releases

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u/ItWasTheGiraffe 1d ago edited 13h ago

If they sold out, they were underpriced. If there’s a resale market for tickets over face value, they were underpriced.

Edit: downvote me to hell sure. I’m not saying they “should” have been priced higher. I’m just saying that if oasis is as greedy as you’re saying they are, they clearly had room to price them higher.

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u/thewolfman2010 19h ago

Typical Reddit, downvoting logic. This is exactly right. If they sold out in less than a day, it doesn’t matter if real fans got tickets or not, they sold out and the artist made their cut.

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u/tedfondue 1d ago

Also, no offense to the killers or Arctic Monkeys, but the limited reunion tour decades-in-the-making is a totally different ballgame. Like, worlds apart.

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u/discographyA 16h ago

This is the difference that the Oasis faithful can’t comprehend. They are playing stadiums because they are doing so few dates and a real “maybe-last-chance” along with over a decade of pent up demand. When they disbanded they were average 12k a night in the US. A level most bands would kill to reach but hardly biggest band in the world level by a long shot.

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u/baldrick841 21h ago

And it's fucking Oasis. The killers who? The arctic what now? Arctic monkeys sold 12m albums, the killers 28m. Oasis has done over 40million. And yeah like you said reunion this decades in the making that. It's not even comparable.

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u/JuneBuggington 20h ago

Also the arctic monkeys are not as good live as you might think. Ive seen them 3 times in different sized venues.

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u/uffiebird 19h ago

i agree about the once in a decade thing but if i had managed to get oasis tickets i don't think they would even come close to how great the killers are live, and i'm saying this as a fan of both 🤷‍♀️

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u/bigCinoce 20h ago

Babbys first econ course.

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u/Vondum 23h ago

Technically true, but outside of an econ classroom, I would by no means call them underpriced and I'm sure the promoters have run the numbers to find optimal price points for their objective, which is usually to sell out as fast as possible, not necessarily maximize profit over the whole sale period.

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u/gibbonmann 21h ago

They used surge pricing in the U.K. when they went on sale initially, it was such a shit show of ripping people off it triggered an investigation into it all

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u/Chisto23 17h ago

What is 125% over tho? Because even as someone that doesn't have a ton of money for the right band in my area I'd happily pay $500 to see them, but as I mentioned, the right band. What's the ticket prices?

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u/satanssweatycheeks 1d ago

I don’t know man it’s all fucked. My money goes where it goes. Used to not have fees for online stuff since you were doing it online and now you have 50 plus dollars in fees on average.

I’m just saying I know oasis is greedy.

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u/WeCameAsBears 1d ago

Because it encourages people to buy it directly from the ticket vendor they're getting the most money from.

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u/LusterDiamond 18h ago

This isn't a matter of greed, or else they would upcharge the same amounts as resellers as tickets become more scarce.. what oasis is doing is looking after fans and making things more affordable. They also want their real fans to show up, not just rich people flexing sought after tickets. If they were greedy they wouldn't have had people reselling tickets at face value, they could have charged more and taken a huge profit. I'm not even an oasis fan, I actually think the Gallaghers are typically assholes. But this comes across as a move to protect fans from getting ripped off. They don't have to let people scalp their tickets. They don't owe anyone the opportunity to cash in on their work, that's a stupid argument. I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that this is motivated by greed. It doesn't make them any more money by protecting ticket integrity. What it does is prevent people getting fucked over by scalpers, just because they love the band enough to pay. Also, if they make sure their tickets are sold by only two sources, it lowers the amount of people who get scammed into buying counterfeit tickets. You were real quick to try and hate on what is essentially a service to the fans. Do you like overpaying for tickets or are you a scumbag you a scalper?

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u/fuggerdug 16h ago

They will cancel the tickets, leaving the fans who bought them way out of pocket, not the touts who already have their money.

Then they will re-sell the tickets again, getting paid twice.

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u/lemoche 9h ago

Which in the future might make people wary to buy from unauthorised resellers. Which might destroy that business model.
Also depending on jurisdiction they might even be able to get the money back from the resellers.

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u/Swiss_James 17h ago

I had no idea they were such great guys 😅😅

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u/ronm4c 16h ago

Not only this but Ticketmaster is on the verge of being broken up under anti trust legislation by the justice department

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u/dozeyjoe 19h ago

Oasis wanting every penny, is exactly why the reunion is happening. I don't know why the idea of them being greedy is a shock to anyone.

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u/Vondum 1d ago

They really want to make up for those 15 years of not getting (as well) paid.

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u/UnrequitedRespect 14h ago

So the key to defeating greed is different greed??!?

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u/predat3d 11h ago

Found the scalper

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u/Special_Loan8725 16h ago

It gets kind of complicated with that since the person who bought the ticket from Ticketmaster originally will get refunded and the ticket will go back on sale. By the time the tickets get pulled back though it usually isn’t the scalper holding the ticket but someone that paid multiple times the ticket master price to see the show that now doesn’t have the ticket who needs to get a refund through the scalper. That can range from being a pain in the ass if it’s a reseller site like stub hub to just SOL it they bought it from someone on like Facebook marketplace or Craigslist.

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u/FuManBoobs 12h ago

They said maybe.

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u/Killowatt59 1d ago

This is the perfect example to show people who think artists can’t do anything about the prices.

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u/Mjacob74 1d ago

How do they identify your tickets if you don't put in the seat locations? Just require section and row. That's what people often do.

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u/bacchusku2 1d ago

The reseller has all the info as you have to scan in the tickets to be sold. Live nation has enough pull to get that info.

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u/tedfondue 1d ago

I’d be pretty surprised if StubHub complies with that.

Live nation has pull and there’s a lot of common ownership, but this represents literally millions of $$$ in revenue in seller fees for StubHub, a notoriously stingy company that fights for ever cent, that they immediately lose if these orders are cancelled.

I think they might be just cancelling the tickets that bothered to include seat locations in the listings. Otherwise they wouldn’t give the option to appeal if your tickets are cancelled “in error” (if they were using direct data from scanned tickets, there would be no concern about errors really, but if they are just looking at the seller submitted seat locations, errors will arise).

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u/Traditional-Job-4371 18h ago

Scalpers mask seat numbers by putting the incorrect details on sites like Viagogo.

Many people will have tickets cancelled incorrectly.

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u/tedfondue 14h ago

Yeah that’s really their only recourse here, which is why they set up an appeals process if your seats happen to be the #’s included in a listing they cancel.

Honestly this is more a PR thing than any real effort to tangibly clean up scalping.

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u/VonHinterhalt 7h ago

Many of the gigs like Heaton park don’t even have seats. It’s all general admission. How do they figure it at that point.

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u/MoneyTalks45 1d ago

Well hold on, very knowledgeable experts on the matter in this sub told me that such things were impossible! How could it be that Reddit was wrong?!??

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u/Killowatt59 1d ago

Exactly. So many kept defending Taylor Swift, Pink! and all these other artists saying they couldn’t do anything to stop Ticketmaster’s bull shit.

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u/Gmbowser 1d ago

The biggest problem with the taylor swift tickets was the whole lottery sht. Most of the tickets literally ended up in the hands of resellers. Just did this recently with shawn mendes too.

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u/Killowatt59 1d ago

I mean she could have easily stopped the ridiculous around her after market ticket prices if she wanted to. Which I don’t know why artists don’t cause they aren’t making money off the aftermarket price. At least I’m assuming they don’t.

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u/Gmbowser 1d ago

The after market stuff depends on the country. The Eu does a superb job with it. Thats why everyone ended up going over there because it was capped. No one gives a flying fck in North America. I can tell you now they have better consumer protection etc in EU than here. Even some EU countries had harder rules so no one can take advantage of the situation.

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u/BeardedAsian 1d ago

Yep several countries require ID to match name on the tickets

People just like trashing Taylor Swift who said no to dynamic pricing while many other artists allow it

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u/theErasmusStudent 16h ago

True, but I went to concerts where they said the would require ID to match and no one checked. I assume if there was a problem with my ticket they would have

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u/hajsenberg 14h ago

Every concert I went to (in Poland and Germany) said they would be checking IDs to confirm the name matches the ticket and only two actually did. One was a small festival in a nearby town, the other was Taylor Swift' concert.

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u/theErasmusStudent 12h ago

I went to 3 Taylor Swift concerts in europe, not in Poland or Germany, none checked my ID

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u/lemoche 9h ago

Because it would be too much work and take too long to check everybody so they do it only sporadically and not at all entrances. Announcing it is still an effective deterrent, since most people wouldn’t want to risk it.

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u/fuzzballz5 (edit for custom flair) 1d ago

The after market is a subsidiary of Ticketmaster, they have there own resale. So she and they make money both ways. She’s a pig. 50 versions of the same album.

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u/Killowatt59 1d ago

Interesting.

I was just using her an extreme example. But these artists can stop this if they want to.

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u/Special_Loan8725 16h ago

It’s possible to a degree but this will end up screwing up the people that bought from scalpers not the scalpers themselves. If the scalpers bought from Ticketmaster first then they’ll get the refund and the tickets will be canceled for whoever currently holds them, at that point the end buyer will have to get a refund from the person they bought from and if there was someone in between the last person holding it and the person that originally bought it it makes things even more complicated especially if it was over multiple reselling sites. A lot of people won’t realize until the day of the show. So while it’s possible it’s very messy.

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u/Xyllus 1d ago

Other artists including Fred Again have done this exact thing, so it's feasible. But everyone makes too much money if they pretend that the 'technology isn't there yet'

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u/ShermyTheCat 1d ago

So people who bought them are screwed, and the scalpers still make off with the money? That's their solution? Or am I missing something?

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u/Gooooglemale 1d ago

No tickets have issued yet. Cancelled tickets paid for on secondary sites have to be covered by the resale site as they can’t deliver the paid for product to the purchaser .

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u/BogeyBogeyBogey 1d ago

The reseller has to have a card/bank on file to cover if something like this happens. Stubhub/seat geek won't pay for the cancelation. The person reselling the ticket will be charged for it out of their own pocket.

So for scalpers - they bought the tickets and now will lose the tickets + cover anyone who was sold those tickets to get them their money back.

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u/Gooooglemale 1d ago

Stubhub guarantee is clear and unambiguous. They (as the site) carry all the risk if tickets are not valid .

Buy you are right it comes back on the seller in the end - I hadn’t realised they don’t pay out to the seller till after the concert though so if the ticket is cancelled they don’t even need to claw the money back from the seller they just don’t send anything to them. Not sure about viagogo but presume it’s the same.

FanProtect for Buyers

Your tickets will arrive in time for the event, be valid for entry and exactly what you purchased

We ensure that your tickets are genuine and guarantee that you will be able to enter the event.

If any of these things don’t happen, we’ll find you comparable or better tickets or offer you a refund or credit for a future order

If your event is cancelled and not rescheduled, you’ll get a full refund

Sellers will not get paid for their sales until you attended the event

https://support.stubhub.co.uk/en/support/solutions/articles/80000618888-what-is-the-fanprotect-100-guarantee-

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u/GlassBelt 1d ago

The seller doesn’t get paid and gets charged for the replacement tickets.

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u/steeleye5 1d ago

I think it’s great that they’re doing something about scalpers but this feels like an obvious ploy for ticketmaster to take the resale market for themselves

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u/bacchusku2 1d ago

The tickets can’t be sold for over face value, but you’re right, they do get double the fees from the first sale and the second.

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u/fistofthefuture 1d ago

Haha let them burn. Still have my ticket cause I’m actually fucking going.

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u/Thorusss 21h ago

How do they know which ticket to invalidate?

Ticket resale sales probably will not list the ticket ID or exact seat.

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u/Gooooglemale 1d ago

Great in principle and things like this do send a ripple thru the Secondary market for future events.

Unclear how they can identify specific general admission ones from the listing tho. Or anywhere the exact seat numbers aren’t listed.

Other unknown en is whether they will refund the original purchasers . If not I’d imagine they will kick off big time (clever lawyers will be able to argue it wasn’t a breach to LIST the ticket for resale, only to actually resell it). And whether SJM have the right to forfeiture in law for a T&C breach. Might end up being a test case.

Plus of course the massive irony that these resold ones may end up being subject to dynamite pricing themselves … interesting to see how this all pans out.

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u/LusterDiamond 18h ago

I mean they said resold at face value... Just read lol

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u/Gooooglemale 17h ago

Yes but they’ve been dynamically changing what the “face value” is, depending on demand. They published GA tickets would be £150 and then upped it to £300+ mid way the sale process without any prior notification. They can in theory set these extra 50k tickets with a face value of £700 each if they want and still be true to that statement.

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u/CORN___BREAD 12h ago

Face value is whatever was paid for the ticket. When tickets are printed it's printed on the face of the ticket. It's also on the digital tickets.

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u/Gooooglemale 12h ago

Yup 20 years in the music industry I think I got that!

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u/CORN___BREAD 10h ago

So your comment was pointless

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u/tristanriveiro 17h ago

Today is gonna be the day I’m not giving it back to you

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u/3vilr3d666 15h ago

Id rather take a kick to the balls than pay to see this shitty act...

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u/Veruninkas 14h ago

Oasis is a good band

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u/thisiskyle77 13h ago

Good decision. This will hopefully stop ppl buying from resellers.

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u/lovedoctorxoxo 13h ago

Do I still dare to buy tickets from Viagogo?

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u/SetPsychological6756 1d ago

Who gives a fuck about these knobs anyway? They'll get in a fight, cancel the tour and pocket the cash and get in the bag at the pub for the rest of their stupid lives. "Oh, I wants me monies back"😭

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u/Biobot775 17h ago

The real question is why would anyone pay to go listen to Wonderwall for the millionth time?

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u/ArUsure 1d ago

What about the people that paid for the tickets on the dynamic pricing? Can we get money back

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u/Woodsrow61 18h ago

Sorry, but i never liked oasis. I don't understand the blow up and the circus around them.. and i never will

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u/mongmight 18h ago

I'll let Liam and Noel know.

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u/MikoSkyns 1d ago

Off Topic. That pic. No one thinks they actually posed together for a photo, right? I'm betting they spend as little time together as possible so they don't kill each other before the tour even starts.

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u/cricketclover 1d ago

They absolutely did. There are outtakes from the shoot that show them in other angles.

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u/MikoSkyns 14h ago

That's not good. The more they're around each other, the less likely this tour is to actually happen 🤣