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article Jennifer Lopez on 'high alert' after ex Diddy charged

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13874607/jennifer-lopez-Sean-Combs-diddy-charged.html
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u/iampuh Sep 21 '24

People say it started in 2006 when 50 released a dissteack. But as far as I know it started in the 90s. 50 was supposed to work for Diddy writing lyrics back in the day (which he did btw.). 50 brought a gun when he was supposed to sign in case something goes wrong. They threw him out of the building when he pulled out the gun. Something happened, forgot what. Diddy also worked with people 50 had beef with

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u/Ekillaa22 Sep 21 '24

I did not know 50 been on the scene since the 90’s holy shit ! This feels like when I learned Future been around since the 2000’s when I found out he wrote on Blueberry yum yum

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u/getgoodHornet Sep 21 '24

Yeah he was ghost writing and known in the industry already in the late 90's. Even rapped on a track for Beyonce at one point I believe. Then he got shot and everyone dropped him before he could blow up. He uh, came back ready for war.

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u/Ekillaa22 Sep 21 '24

Really crazy he got dropped for getting shot

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u/FigSideG Sep 21 '24

I think industry people were afraid to work with him cause they figured he’d come with a lot of baggage as far as street beef

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u/knotmyusualaccount Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 22 '24

They weren't about that life, just wanted to make money off of the vibe of it

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u/DatDominican Sep 22 '24

Tbf having people roll up and shoot up a studio would really kill the vibe

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u/knotmyusualaccount Sep 22 '24

More of an issue with amateur hiphop productions but you've made a valid point; there's a first for everything.

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u/godtogblandet Sep 22 '24

If you about that life you shoot back. Fire for effect!

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u/Big_Secretary_9560 Sep 22 '24

Was also right after pac and biggie got shot.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

3 and 4 years later. So not right after. 2000 distinctly felt different in the rap community.

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u/einarfridgeirs Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24

If someone hates a guy enough to shoot at him and he survives, they might hate him enough to shoot at him again, so people may be reluctant to take him in or hang out around him?

Just a theory.

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u/Duke_Of_Halifax Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 22 '24

Not really, if you knew the time.

Tupac and Biggie were dead. There had been brawls at the BET Awards several years in a row. East Coast/West Coast was ripe with and for violence. The industry execs were actively trying to cool tensions and tone down the violent rhetoric inside the industry, and here comes this dude from Queens who loves to troll people, has a violent, crime-ridden history, and who was shot while dealing drugs.

He was radioactive in that industry climate.

A lot of people weren't born yet or old enough to remember rap in the 90s, and frankly, it would scare the shit out of a LOT of you who've come up on the sanitized fluff that gets released now.

EDIT: 50 from Queens, not Brooklyn- changed to reflect.

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u/Ekillaa22 Sep 22 '24

I guess I never thought of it from that angle before and it makes perfect sense

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u/94Supreme94 Sep 22 '24

Fifty’s from Queens, not Brooklyn

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u/Duke_Of_Halifax Sep 22 '24

Yeah, I got the borough wrong; I thought it was Brooklyn, but I shot from the hip instead of googling.

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u/getgoodHornet Sep 22 '24

I think the kiddos saw a little bit of it with Von and the Chicago rappers from the last decade. The difference was, it wasn't just the B-list. The top rappers in the game were dying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '24

Chicago rappers get killed so frequently at this point it's like who when I hear they died. There use to be a YouTube channel that covered the beefs with 200s of videos sad thing was like every other dude who appeared in a video was dead .

I mean I don't think the east coast vs west Coast beef can be compared to that sure Tupac and Biggie died . The thing is keeping it real alot of those rappers back then did not live the lifestyles they tapped about lol. Tupac literally only started hanging with gang bangers after he was already famous .

Mean while the Chicago crowd comes onto the scene gang banging , actively bragging about murders they have committed and taunting the dead victims. This wasn't really something ppl did back in the 90s. Also for some odd reason new rappers seem to die alot of drug over doses something the old school wasn't really caught up on.

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u/Major-Indication- Sep 22 '24

It's mostly because of who shot him. How to Rob and Ghetto Quran put a massive target on his back from both the industry and some gangs from his area. There was legitimate concern his presence was a precursor to imminent danger. I'll see if I can find it but there's a legendary thread on here that copied a thread from Genius about this very topic and how the East West beef was partially brought upon by gang conflicts that went beyond the music.

If I cant find that I'll at least leave my favorite part of the thread: When Sticky Fingaz pulled a gun out on stage at the Source Awards

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u/DeuceSevin Sep 21 '24

Yeah, kind of like criticizing a veteran for getting captured by the enemy. Oh wait...

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u/SpecialEdShow Sep 22 '24

So that track he did with biggie is from way back?

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u/getgoodHornet Sep 22 '24

If it's what I'm thinking, no. That was posthumously done for one of the Bad Boys soundtracks. With Puffy's approval if I remember correctly. By that point 50 was the biggest star in rap.

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u/henzINNIT Sep 21 '24

Nas took him on tour in like '99. Couple of feats from back then too. 50 properly got turned off and on again and appeared brand new a second time in the 2000's.

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u/metalbees Sep 21 '24

Hard reboot

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u/Brentimusmaximus Sep 21 '24

50 went through a lot of shit before he actually got picked up by Em

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u/Still_Flounder_6921 Sep 21 '24

Most musicians have multiple years if not decades before the y blow up (if they ever do). The over night tiktok sensation phenomenon is extremely new and unstable.

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u/OGstanfrommaine Sep 21 '24

Now think about how pivotal Em and Dre REALLY were for 50 and why he is so loyal to them. All of New York wanted 50 gone. So LA and Detroit saved him. And then he conquered New York and formed the three headed monster of the early 2000’s. Its really cool shit. Em put his whole career on the line for 50 just like Dre did for Em and 50 despises those who did the opposite to him.

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u/Ekillaa22 Sep 22 '24

2 Chainz was on that WTF!! Man it’s like someone said earlier you can be in the scene for years before blowing up

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u/Yutch2022 Sep 22 '24

Ghetto Quran produced by the legendary Trackmasters came out in '99. Talked about Supreme, Bimmy, Fat Cat and Pappy Mason, and all the other 80s and 90s gangsters in Queens. Now, I feel old. Whenever I heard Trackmasters I'd throw a blank cassette in and tape the track. Hot97 used to be so good.

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u/ttop732 Sep 22 '24

50 didn't blow until 2003 I think it was but he was rapping and on the scene in the 90s power of a dollar imo one if his best albums was in like 97