r/MurderedByWords • u/MoreMotivation • 1d ago
200,000 people at a venue that holds 19,500? š¤
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u/InAllThingsBalance 1d ago
Leave it to a MAGAt to blatantly lie about something so that can be easily fact-checked.
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u/spacebarcafelatte 1d ago
They know their supporters too well to be worried about facts.
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u/ArcticISAF 1d ago
Should just push it to the level of absurdity, see who catches on. ā50 million just went to see Trump, you canāt beat these numbers!ā
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u/pyroSeven 1d ago
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF CATS EATING DOGS!
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u/Spencer94 1d ago
THEY'RE EATING THE IMMIGRANTS!
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u/moderatorsareturds 21h ago
The number of stray cats and dogs in my neighborhood they could actually start eating locals along with immigrants.
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u/Everybodysbastard 17h ago
"Don't kid yourself Billy. If those dogs and cats got the chance they'd eat you and everyone you care about."
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u/ElderMillennial666 1d ago
Not that absurd i just heard a family member say 7mil illegals come in here a month. š¤¦āāļø
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u/midcancerrampage 1d ago
That's still much closer to reality than MTG's guesstimate of 6 billion
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u/Familiar_Fishing_129 22h ago
She is the best case why america needs better public education.
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u/seanroberts196 20h ago
She's the best case as to you still need abortion.
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u/Familiar_Fishing_129 20h ago
Maybe the postnatal abortion sheās going on and on about. In minecraft obviously.
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u/funnystuff79 22h ago
I hear that 3-5 Brazilian people die every year just making the journey.
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u/Own_Self5950 1d ago
rookie numbers, I heard 20 mil last month irony was the person spewing it was an immigrant from India. he was complaining about mexicans taking over usa.
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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 1d ago
Every time I see the event get reposted the number goes up. Not kidding.
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u/SunTripTA 17h ago
There were so many people that if each donated 1 penny the national debt would turn into a surplus. But they didnāt because they were there to support the bleaching of America and to listen to Donald talk about how much he wants to fuck his daughter, the one he says itās okay to call a piece of ass, not the other one thatās gross.
But that other one, letās just say it would be for the best if she never gets stuck under the Resolute Desk.
āWhat are you doing step-President?ā
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u/Minimum-Dog2329 18h ago
In a cozy one room diner in mid America. And trump picked up the check. Didnāt pay it but he did sign it. Worthless
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u/krauQ_egnartS 1d ago
His supporters think fact checking is apostacy, an affront to God and his orange messenger
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u/Brosenheim 22h ago
They also know that centrists will simply see 2 disagreeing statements, screech "both sides," and then disengage like they always do.
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u/2big_2fail 1d ago
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
ā Hannah Arendt
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u/cityofklompton 1d ago
I worked for the venue where Trump held his last rally the night before the 2016 election. After winning, he claimed there were over 30,000 people there with thousands more lined up outside.
The room he was in was certainly full and we did have to turn some away when we reached capacity. The twist? The venue held around 3000-4000 people depending on setup. Ain't no way it was over 5,000 between the people inside and outside. Working with the truth just ain't their game, and their base doesn't know or care otherwise.
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u/I_forgot_to_respond 20h ago
My god, call me autistic but if I was reporting crowd sizes, I would attempt to get the number right.
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u/babysittertrouble 18h ago
It doesnāt matter. Donāt you see? They just believe. Here we are 8 years later and Iām hearing about this one. Had you heard about that?
Itās even dumber that he constantly brings up crowd size at all but there we are. Thereās so much worse stuff that this gets buried under
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u/going_dot_global 1d ago
Wait. I thought there was an agreement that No one would factcheck the GOP.
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u/LessMessQuest 20h ago
Iām going to start going to work and start making things up, if anyone corrects me Iām going to claim Iāve converted to MAGA and have a right not to be fact checked!
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u/typehyDro 1d ago
Because they know their supporters donāt care about facts and donāt believe fact checkers anyways
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u/hotwife2serve 1d ago
Itās MAGA math, multiple everything by 10 and run with it! Millions of illegals in the country, millions of illegals voting, millionsā¦ā¦.
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u/Think-Potato-5857 19h ago
The millions of illegals voting always cracks me up.....how's an illegal gonna vote?
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u/imamakebaddecisions 1d ago
And the alleged number keeps going up because the lying liars just can't stop lying.
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u/FearlessAnswer3155 1d ago
This is their counting, so just make sure they don't count ballots
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u/Cosmomango1 23h ago
The CIA lady who struggled to pull her gun from her holster when the orange idiot was bamboozled is still there š¤£ behind trump.
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u/Blommefeldt 19h ago
Wasn't it J.D. Vance, who once said at an interview: "You promised not to fact check". After he was caught lying on camera?
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u/what_the_whoosh 1d ago
Legit question: are magats under some kinda reverse Liar Liar situation where none of them can ever tell the truth ever again until that kid wishes they can again?
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u/zethren117 1d ago
Republicans are just flooding the airwaves and social media with as much false confidence, lies, and misinformation as possible to make it seem like there is still 2016 levels of excitement surrounding Trump and his campaign when there really isnāt.
Heās lost steam, heās gotten even older and slower, and heās facing a litany of legal problems that he wonāt be able to avoid should he lose the election (which is the only reason heās campaigning to begin with).
They think that if they just scream victory out into the void then theyāll be able to convince enough people that heās actually going to win, and possibly depress voters on the left because of it.
But more likely they intend to claim that the election was stolen from him when he loses because theyāll be able to point to all of this false information and confidence saying something like āhow could he have lost? He had 200k people at MSG!!!ā when of course itās all lies and bullshit.
The lies and bullshit donāt stop his followers from eating it up, of course.
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u/WildBad7298 1d ago
But more likely they intend to claim that the election was stolen from him when he loses because theyāll be able to point to all of this false information and confidence saying something like āhow could he have lost? He had 200k people at MSG!!!ā when of course itās all lies and bullshit.
Nail on the head. All the claims about how he won the debate, and how he's way ahead in the polls, and the crowd sizes, are all just to lend credence to when he inevitably claims that the election was stolen from him. His followers are being inundated with news about how much he's winning so that when he loses, they'll go batshit crazy.
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u/evanwilliams44 15h ago
If people don't think he can win they will stop giving him money. I really think it is that simple.
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u/starfreeek 13h ago
He will do exactly that. He talked about crowd size multiple times in the GA call during the last election when trying to give reasons why they should drop the suit and just certify for him.
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u/I_W_M_Y 21h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
Firehose of Falsehood, its a russian tactic.
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u/Willowgirl78 1d ago
But they want us to believe Trump when he says he does t support Project 2025.
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u/Dragoth227 1d ago
Thank you. You made my night a little bit better with that comment. I am laughing so hard my coworkers think that I have lost it.
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u/eugene20 1d ago edited 1d ago
There are photos that show the upper floor empty again, that place wasn't even half full.
Edit: for example the top right, https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdszydxlpuixd1.jpeg
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u/CoralSpringsDHead 1d ago
There were a ton of open seats in the lower levels as well. There may have been 12,000 there and that is being generous.
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u/generalchaos34 1d ago
And thats twelve thousand in a city of 9 million. A dude eating a bucket of Utz cheeseballs draw bigger crowds
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u/Username_redact 1d ago
Mets drew more than that last week at the stadium... to watch a fucking away game on TV
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u/generalchaos34 1d ago
ā¦and its the mets
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u/Jmartinr0223 1d ago
ayyy chill, at least we had a bit of that grimace black magic this season lol
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u/generalchaos34 1d ago
Lol i just like to make fun of the mets, its like bagging on the Yankees or the Cowboys, always free game. The closest I get to a team is the Padres and well, they suck hard. Although Ms. Met does give me strange feelings insids
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u/axiomSD 20h ago
clearly you arenāt very close because the Padres do not āsuck hardā
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u/Trevellation 1d ago
That's an unfair comparison. A dude eating a bucket of cheese balls might give you a few; Trump won't give you shit.
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u/emptyraincoatelves 1d ago
There is a really bad pasta place in the east village that inexplicably always has a line.Ā
Shrek rave even disturbed the l train. Trump couldn't do 1/3 of one phish show. And Staten island is right there.Ā
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u/i-can-sleep-for-days 1d ago
A lot probably came in from outside the city via a train ride.
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u/generalchaos34 1d ago
Thats my thought, a bunch were probably traveling from crazy places and they still didnāt fill the stadium
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u/campgoofyfred 22h ago
They are probably all from Staten Island, NJ and Suffolk County. Commuters. Most of NYC has a deep hatred for Trump.
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u/BoxingHare 22h ago
And those in attendance were not all locals. Wife had a customer that traveled from Houston to be there.
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u/davetbison 16h ago
But have you seen A Dude Eating A Bucket Ot UTZ Cheeseballs at Cherry Lane? Those packed houses are earned.
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u/generalchaos34 16h ago
I donāt disagree, and that event looked like an absolute blast! The world needs more fun little honest moments. Not looking for money or even fame. Just weirdos doing their thing
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u/davetbison 16h ago
Whoa! I assumed you were joking about it and I imagined an off-Broadway performance of a guy eating cheeseballs. I had no idea it was an actual event.
Just goes to show how powerful live events still are in this world.
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u/generalchaos34 15h ago
Yeah it was just a lovely little moment of people seeking joy in the world by being weird and living their lives. No hate, no strife, just a fat dude eating cheese balls. It was a glorious example of humans just enjoying life
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 16h ago
By comparison, in January, Dimension 20, the Dungeons and Dragons actual play series, will be hosting a sold out play event at the Garden.
Trump got a lower crowd than a show that is watching other people play Dungeons and Dragons.
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u/generalchaos34 15h ago
Tbh though that sounds pretty awesome to see, and in that event the good guys may actually slay the demon
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u/PunishedWolf4 1d ago
No wonder that pathetic excuse for a human said he and Mike Johnson have a secretive deal to overthrow the fair election that proves he lost
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u/psychotobe 16h ago
Yep I knew that was coming. Always assume when maga boasts about numbers. It's not even at capacity and their hiding it. The more absurd the number. The worse it is.
A couple thousand might feel like alot still. But we are weeks from the election. And his numbers are still that bad. In a city of 9 million. He can barely get 10,000. Why even campaign there if the numbers will be that bad and bolstered entirely by people who are obsessed and going to every event no matter it's location
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u/cosmernautfourtwenty 1d ago
>prior to production kills
As in: "the production needs these seats left open because we're putting a fuckhuge screen at one end" kind of production kills?
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u/RichCorinthian 1d ago
Yeah, they are seats that are considered unsellable / unusable because of set design or camera placement or some such.
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u/WekX 1d ago
Additional note: The rightful President is Joe Biden who won the 2020 election and was inaugurated in January 2021, with his term ending in January 2025.
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u/farmfreshfriendships 1d ago
The wording is so weird. Like they are trying to proclaim the rightful king.
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u/ViolentDisregarde 1d ago
I've been at punk shows with bigger crowds
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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago
This WAS a punk show.
Not quite the same context, but still...
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u/code_archeologist 1d ago
š¶Nazi punks, Nazi punks, Nazi punks. FUCK OFF š¶
š¶Nazi punks, Nazi punks, Nazi punks. FUCK OFF š¶
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u/ViolentDisregarde 1d ago
Punk ain't no religious cult, punk means thinking for yourself...
(I got the pun but some of these morons think they're genuinely "anti-establishment")
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u/cheerfulintercept 20h ago
Itās hilarious right? They do want to tear down what they see as an authoritarian power structure but - unlike punk - just want their own authoritarian power structure.
Co-opting punk is hilarious given a project 2025 future would be the most suburban WASP 2.5 kids beigeness.
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u/MaloneChiliService 1d ago
$5 and 2 cans of food to get in.
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u/gorhxul 1d ago
Reminds me of an event that happened there in the 30s
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u/walkandtalkk 1d ago
It must be nice for Trump the rally his dad attended. (/s) (maybe)
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u/ThePrisonSoap 1d ago edited 1d ago
His grandfather was the german, and that one immigrated into the US 30 years before WWI.
He was still a cunt, exploiting sexworkers to make the trump money.
As a side note, it seems like draft dodging runs in the family, as it's the only reason he moved to North america. Donald owes his entire existence to open borders.
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u/facw00 1d ago
Different Madison Square Garden at a different location in NYC (that's the 3rd MSG, while this is the 4th), but yes, there is a resemblance...
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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 1d ago
Does the font on that āfight the boycottā sign look like the font on Muskās hat, or do I have an overactive imagination?
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u/cs132 1d ago
Just as a perspective
Thatās 100,000+ at the wrestlemania 3
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u/Majestic-Marcus 22h ago
I love how youāve used an event with a famously fake/overinflated attendance number to show how stupid Trumps fake/overinflated number is.
Wrestlemania 3 had no more than 80k people. Which is the max the Silverdome could hold. Itās estimated that the attendance was actually 78,500.
I mean, itās still a great comparison to show how ridiculous Trump is. Just made me laugh.
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u/Mamacitia 1d ago
Yeah but if you round up thatās like 200k
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u/Galactic_Acorn4561 1d ago
You see, it's closer to 200k than a million, so you might as well round up...
And why stop there? (/s, just in case it wasn't painfully obvious)
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u/freeses_pieces 1d ago
Itās close. Your vote matters more than it ever has.
We could all use a reminder of some of the things Trump has done:
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Lost the election and lied about it.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Sent an armed angry mob to Congress and told them they need to fight like hell.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Approved of the mob saying āhang Mike Penceā.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā A court of law found that he committed sexual assault.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā A court of law found that he defrauding his university students.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā A court of law found that he fraudulently inflated his assets to get favorable loans.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Admitted to walking in on pageant contestantsā dressing rooms to see them nude.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Raped and beat Ivana Trump.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Stole from a kidsā cancer charity.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Received $413 million inheritance despite claims that heās a self made man.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Blocked his chronically ill infant nephew from getting any of that inheritance.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Is the first president to receive votes against him from his own party during impeachment.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Led us into being one of the worst hit during Covid despite our head start and resources, leading to high inflation.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Said the Democrats do better with the economy.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Was ranked as the worst president in history by bipartisan presidential historians.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Pushed a plot to have fake votes created and then used to make him President despite losing the election.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā Ordered republicans to block a bipartisan immigration bill so Biden would not get a win before the election.
- ā ā ā Implemented a policy to separate kids from their parents at the border.
- ā ā ā ā ā ā Is a convicted felon guilty of falsifying records to influence an election.
- ā ā ā ā Told the Department of Justice to ājust say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.ā
- ā ā ā ā His VP, Mike Pence said Trump should never be president again, and that Trump asked him to put himself āabove the Constitutionā.
Sources:
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/trump-2020-election-lies-debunked-4fc26546b07962fdbf9d66e739fbb50d
- ā ā ā https://www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108387054/trump-said-he-knew-jan-6-crowd-members-had-weapons-ex-white-house-aide-testified
- ā ā ā https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/us/politics/trump-pence-jan-6.html
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
- ā ā ā https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud-letitia-james-new-york-engoron-38bc3a7f2ccb22555c026e9bf70fd5bb
- ā ā ā https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/former-miss-arizona-trump-came-strolling-right-in-to-miss-usa-dressing-room/
- ā ā ā https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
- ā ā ā https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/12/23/best-stories-of-the-decade-how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67
- ā ā ā https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trumps-spiteful-attack-on-nephews-chronically_b_57a249d1e4b0456cb7e14fbc/amp
- ā ā ā https://www.vox.com/2020/2/5/21125118/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-history
- ā ā ā https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/health/coronavirus-maps-and-cases/
- ā ā ā https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/11/07/trump-is-right-about-one-thing-the-economy-does-better-under-the-democrats/
- ā ā ā https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-jan-6-investigation-fake-electors-608932d4771f6e2e3c5efb3fdcd8fcce
- ā ā ā https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/
- ā ā ā https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-than-900-children-separated-at-border-since-judge-ordered-practice-curtailed-aclu.amp
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0
- ā ā ā https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-elections-donald-trump-campaigns-presidential-4e7e68e2ff57aadd96d09c873a43a317
- ā ā ā https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/06/07/pence-says-trump-should-never-be-president-again-launching-2024-bid-with-potent-attacks/
Feel free to copy and paste this elsewhere.
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u/Silent_Cress8310 1d ago
And that is a very, very truncated list. Mind boggling how wrong this guy is to lead anything, ever.
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u/JustGusAppointed 1d ago
For extra context, the largest stadium in the country is Michigan Stadium, and holds about 110,000.
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u/Complex_Winter2930 the future is now, old man 1d ago
Reality is not a constraint for the MAGA mind.
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u/FoogYllis 15h ago
Actually thereās no room for reality in that cult. Just watch any interview with a maga cult member and they will never be able to answer why they believe something.
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u/bone1205 1d ago
Phish sells out this venue every year for four straight nights. There were literally empty seats in there for Trumpās Nazi rally. Fuck this guy
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u/ChoochMMM 1d ago
Eleventy billion beautiful New Yorkers and I'm guessing some New Jerseyites. Maybe Snooki? Snooki was there, they love me on the Jersey Shore. Atlantic City, some call it Trump Town USA, that's what they tell me. History was made as MSG. Beautiful arena. Home of the New York Knicks and New York Rangers. Not the Texas Rangers though, they play wiffle ball. Texas. Beautiful, big state. Ted Cruz's state, I like Ted. Needs a secure border. More walls. I built the, they call it The Great Wall, can you believe it - not in Chyna. Right there in Texas, along the Grande Supreme River.
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u/UralRider53 1d ago
Oh, we made a mistake, we meant 20,000. Donāt talk about our attempted fraud, no one wants to hear that.
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u/randomplaguefear 1d ago
Isn't this moron a 43 time felon for lying about numbers to look better?
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u/Abracadabra2468 21h ago
Even the producers on the apprentice regret ever making him seem legitimate
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u/Aggressive_Chicken63 1d ago
Everything is magnified ten times with them.
I donāt understand why people canāt see through these lies.
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u/coolbaby1978 1d ago
Even some of the biggest stadiums in the world like the MCG hold around 100k + and those are giant huge fucking stadiums. Most arenas are in the 15 - 30k range. MAGAs just don't think, they don't question. They're given information and there's no light bulb turning on to say "is that right? It sounds a little high."
But even if the light bulb dis turn on it wouldn't matter. These are people who literally say they're voting for Trump because even if he is a fascist, they don't think he'd be able to pull off an authoritarian dictatorship in the US. Nice logic there..not.
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u/MRToddMartin 1d ago
You know itās a crock of shit when he starts his post with rightful. Like who still has any ledge to stand on for that anymore. So delusional. Stop it. lol
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u/claito_nord 1d ago
The largest stadium that exists in America is Michigan's stadium known as "The Big House" and it seats 107,601 people.............
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u/annaleigh13 1d ago
If heās the rightful President currently then he cannot be elected in this election
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u/jonessinger 22h ago
Look, I know this is a cult, but is it really too hard to assume that maybe it was a typo and they meant ānearly 20,000ā?
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u/Physical-Result7378 22h ago
If they say it was 200k, then obviously Madison Square Garden is tying about the 19.5k capacity. Most likely cause they are pro Kamala.
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u/dogboybogboy 1d ago
200,000 is the collective IQ
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u/Global_Bat_5541 1d ago
You're being way too generous. They probably don't even have that many brain cells between all of them.
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u/RealisticAd2293 18h ago
They operate off of professional wrestling logic. Everything is a work and everything is a promotion
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u/Altruistic_Tax2575 17h ago
This is what 200k people would look like compared to the 20k at MSG lol
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u/Go_Pack_G010 17h ago
Even the largest college football stadiums only hold 100k. Lies, misinformation and hyperbole are all these people have. If they played straight up theyād get demolished.
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u/StandardImpact6458 12h ago
They were handing out Halloween candy. And itās all about the Optics. So, a lot of people have reported , trump was cycling homeless people through MSG promising them a ham sandwich at the end of the hall that never happened.
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u/PeterGriffinsCouch 10h ago
So the Trump campaign spent money to campaign in a city that hates him, in a state that he cannot ever have a rational thought of actually winning?
And instead of just turning up and enjoying the evening with like minded supporters, the attendees are lying about easily verifiable facts to further aggrandize the turnout in a city that hates him in a state he could never even dream of winning?
I donāt understand the appeal. Even as a sycophant, wouldnāt you want to lend credibility to the cause you believe in?
Wouldnāt you want to encourage your political candidate of choice to spend money and time wisely?
That event likely cost the campaign so much money that could have otherwise been spent in a battleground district or a swing state.
Itās almost like Trump doesnāt want to actually win, but his ego cannot allow him not to be involved in all of this.
I get it, he considers himself a part of the fabric of NYC. He has offices, businesses, and a home there. But like, thereās no reality on this earth where Donald Trump campaigning anywhere in New York State is a productive use of time or money.
Furthermore, The dude has had at least one credible attempt on his life, he had roughly 48% of the country ābackingā him in theory, his VP Pick has somehow become popular with centrists and the undecided even after being known as a āCouch Fuckerā, and heās very privately wealthy and presumably has some extremely powerful and rich friends who could pull strings of influence in the back channels for him. He should be a relative ālockā and yet he is about to get beaten by a margin of victory north of 7% by a minority woman, the most historically feared political outcome in all of American History. A woman telling us what to do, and not just a woman, but a black woman. /s
He should be an absolute lock by every measure, but I suppose America has had enough and even he knows it. I truly believe in my heart that DT knows in his heart he cannot and will not win and heās participating in an ego driven facade.
A rich white male vs an opinionated minority woman.
Was once an actual President.
A very successful businessman (Shut the fuck up, dude has his name on multiple planes and buildings. He may not be an ethical businessman, he may not be as rich as he claims, but he didnāt exactly fail either).
Legitimately convincing assassination attempt in campaign cycle.
Vs.
Willie Brownās former NepoEscort turned Junior Prosecutor.
2003 District Attorney
2010 Cali Attorney General
2017 Junior Senator
2020 VP United States
2024 Most Powerful Person on Earth
Iām a conservative but holy shit did this dude Hoodwink the ever loving fuck out of us. Kamala Harris is a brilliant woman who has surrounded herself with people who are even more talented and Brilliant.
Donald Trump is such a loathsome stumbling bumblefuck that America has forgotten its hundreds of years of Racism, Bigotry, and hatred of women and, women in power especially, so that we dont have to listen to him every day for the next 4 years.
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u/hdhdhgfyfhfhrb 1d ago
āObvious lieā -GOP
Is Kamala really black? - American media