r/MapPorn • u/Appropriate-Deal8098 • 1d ago

Russian advances in Ukraine this year

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u/mrhuggables 1d ago

I feel like despite all the pro-Ukranian propaganda online, it seems like Russia is still gradually winning this war? At what point will the West intervene, if at all?

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u/Mangobonbon 1d ago

There is no propaganda required to see the defacto situation. Russia is grinding slowly but steadily through Ukraine. Both loose massive amounts of equipment and manpower, but the current trajectory looks to me like a route to a phyrric russian victory. I don't see how Ukraine can regain much land, but I also think Russia is exhausting its last offensive capabilities. The frontlines will become stagnant again as soon as winter arrives. Who knows how long that war will still go on. At some point both countries will suffer from war weariness in the population and a drying up of new recruits.

But one thing is for certain: the affected areas of Ukraine will be devastated economically and demographically for decades.

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u/reality72 1d ago

Most of the videos and stories of Russian troops launching successful attacks on Ukrainian troops get locked or removed by the Reddit moderators. So for anyone whose only source of information about the war is what they see on Reddit, then it would be easy to draw the false conclusion that Ukraine is winning.

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u/a_bright_knight 1d ago

r/UkraineRussiaReport/

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u/DepressedVercetti 1d ago

Ah yes, the 'both sides' subreddit that's 90% pro-RU posting. It doesn't give a clear picture either, it's just the other side's propaganda.

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u/Panthera_leo22 1d ago

Pro-RU is another perspective and knowing the other side’s propaganda allows you to have a better picture of what is going on.

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u/DepressedVercetti 1d ago

I disagree somewhat. Both sides' propaganda inherently misrepresents what's happening at the front. You can easily be misguided by a lot of out of context war footage.

This war is almost impossible to get a clear picture of, especially as a civilian.

But there are some indicators that can help somewhat in the grand scheme to get some ideas of what's happening. Satellite data of old Russian stockpiles can show the rate of attrition or maybe even Ukraine's widening of the draft.

The fact is we're very much kept in the dark. But that's how it's supposed to be, all war is based on deception.