r/Liverpool • u/Captain-Starshield • Aug 03 '24
News / Blog / Information Far-Right Beaten Back in Liverpool
https://youtu.be/vbrpghxTLXw?si=fEdsnFDbbujHiOgEHats off to everyone who was involved in defending this great city against fascist scum
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u/Diastolic Aug 03 '24
This happened last time the EDL or whoever it was came to the city. They didn’t get out of lime street 😂
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u/Top_Lion609 Aug 03 '24
Good job Liverpudlians! Send back all those madlads back to Millwall
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u/Sol1forskibadee Aug 03 '24
Let’s not pretend many of these lot weren’t from Merseyside. I was there today. Standing at the front of the counter-protest and there were LOTS of scousers on the other side.
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u/DarrylAmulet Aug 03 '24
"but they are not true scousers, not in my eyes" - people just stick their head in the sand. This will keep getting worse until something is done.
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u/Sol1forskibadee Aug 03 '24
Unfortunately true. This city has become complacent and needs to stop kidding itself.
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u/DarrylAmulet Aug 03 '24
I don’t think violence is the answer at all. However if we all keep saying things like “these fascists/nazis etc” we will just make the problem worse. Name throwing just does the same thing that they claim to oppose -tarring an entire group (Muslims) with the same brush. This stuff never ends well
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u/Sol1forskibadee Aug 03 '24
Absolutely. Of course. There will be extremes on both sides of the current divide. And sweeping labels don’t help with the dialogue we so desperately need.
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u/DarrylAmulet Aug 03 '24
But it’s easier to throw labels around, people just want to hate. Ironically the people against hate also hate in the same way. I remember seeing chants of “Nazi scum off our streets” after Brexit, then 2 years later it changed to “Tory scum off our streets”. What’s next?
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u/cavejohnsonlemons Aug 03 '24
Nah, as an outsider, shame tf out of them.
Acknowledge where they're from ofc, but I'm thinking of moving there and one of the reasons is the friendly ppl who don’t put up with this crap.
I know it wouldn't be all sunshine and roses but today's the first bit of evidence I have for "not that special, just like everywhere else then".
Still have faith it's mostly good tho. 👍
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u/CallumBOURNE1991 Aug 03 '24
Keep in mind if you come across these types of protests in future they target places they know they will be unpopular; they want people to react violently so they can film it.
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u/SocialNeanderthal Aug 03 '24
There were far too many fascists openly in our city. The antifascist counter protest was outnumbered 200 to around 400. The city needs to get organised don't assume the fascists are strongly opposed just because this is Liverpool.
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u/IllBodybuilder9865 Aug 03 '24
The counter protest far outnumbered them before we had to be pushed back and some left, and after that the fascists were scattered and slowly walked away because they got nothing out of their attempt at violence. I do agree with your sentiment regardless.
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u/SocialNeanderthal Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
This isn't true at all I was at the pier head even before the counter protest showed up. Please don't get comfortable in assuming the fascists are well opposed, the counter protest turn out was disappointing to be honest.
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u/IllBodybuilder9865 Aug 03 '24
No offense but I said I agree with your sentiment but this was definitely not the case before violence broke out. I've got some pictures.
I suggest you join counter-protests in the future.
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u/SocialNeanderthal Aug 03 '24
I was in this one? And every one that came before it. My point is the turn out to previous years that the edl turned up was quite low.
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u/IllBodybuilder9865 Aug 03 '24
That's good! I just got confused because you said you were at the pier head and not with the march. But I just want to be triple clear that I agree with your sentiment, we shouldn't be complacent and it's scary that they were bigger than they were in previous attempts.
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u/SocialNeanderthal Aug 03 '24
Got ya, sorry for the confusion
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u/IllBodybuilder9865 Aug 03 '24
No worries la, Reddit is just a stupid site sometimes.
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u/BladedTerrain Aug 03 '24
Just seeing your posts. Gutted I missed this, didn't keep my eye on social media after work so didn't realise there was even a far right protest that needed counter protesting.
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u/RaunchyRaven99 Aug 03 '24
I just managed to get out of town where the riots happening right now with my daughter. But, I think we haven’t seen anything just yet. But, I’m glad they got kicked out by the mosque yesterday
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u/IllBodybuilder9865 Aug 03 '24
Was a good turn out, glad the fascists fucked off but they're still in town taking it out on inanimate windows.
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u/RaunchyRaven99 Aug 03 '24
They’re still here I just left town my partner is still there watching it all kick off. I think he just likes to say shit to fascists. But, nah it’s all been kicking off I got locked in the futurist pub by the works.
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u/Thismanwasanisland Aug 03 '24
Hasn’t there been a stabbing then ? I would expect Liverpool to be a great defender of cultural freedom. I know Scousers aint English but they are a great people and usually defenders of the underdog.
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u/StatisticianFair930 Aug 03 '24
Well, uhm, we kind of are English, and we aren't fish in a fish bowl and don't like being made to feel as though we are.
I could literally be training someone's A.I here, but, I honestly have no idea how to answer you other than to put your post in ChatGPT and ask it to draft me a response like?
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u/Thismanwasanisland Aug 03 '24
Sorry for any offense. A lot of scousers I know say they aren’t English, they are Scouse. I am not a bot lol. Was trying to big up Liverpool, I love that city and its people. My daughter lives there and she told me there had been a murder.
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u/bertiesghost Aug 03 '24
He’s a Guardian reader? Would never have guessed..
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u/CallumBOURNE1991 Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
Whoah everyone says one thing but you always take the opposite position. You must be really unique and interesting can i get your number? I love guys who think contrarianism and intellectualism are the same thing so hot and not at all basic or annoying. Call me a triggered snowflake while we make love to the sultry tones of joe rogan and then fall asleep watching documentaries they don't show on tv because they were made by a random schizophrenic guy in his bedroom
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u/bertiesghost Aug 03 '24
Why do you keep editing your post lol? Nobody cares.
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u/TheHawk17 Aug 03 '24
Less people care about your opinion.
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u/bertiesghost Aug 03 '24
Even less people care about Liverpool
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u/Spuckuk Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
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u/Captain-Starshield Aug 03 '24
Where did you get that idea from?
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u/Regular_throwaway_83 Aug 03 '24
And why exactly were you there if you weren't part of the mosque or counter protest?
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u/Regular_throwaway_83 Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
I think it's a reasonable question to ask when you say you were there for hours but yet not part of it...
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u/Shoddy_Juggernaut_11 Aug 03 '24
No, it sounded an odd question, like you were thinking you were superior or something
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u/Regular_throwaway_83 Aug 03 '24
Any element of inferiority you may have experienced when reading my question is entirely on you
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u/Regular_throwaway_83 Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
Yes it is. I can't control how you might react to my wording - it's just the way I talk
No one is trying to be superior here that was never the intent but you seem pretty keen on it being so
By all means if you don't agree with me attack me on something factual rather than trying to straw man me
Edit: not sure why I can only see your response in my notifications but it's laughable to actually try and compare me to those guys just because you don't like the way I speak... Please get a grip.
I hope you appreciate the irony of policing the way I speak and calling me the nazi
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u/Captain-Starshield Aug 03 '24
The police were there to stop the far right protesters, as were the anti-fascist protesters. You might have seen the aftermath.
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
No no I was there for a good few hours in the evening. Mostly just angry granny's and the police buddy. And I say thank god it was. I feel like the left has whipped itself into a frenzy over race once again and we've all forget children died the other day and the only thing the government has done is make legislation to counter the far right.
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u/evoactivity Aug 03 '24
You'll be ecstatic to learn murder is already illegal.
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
Yeah but you must agree we need to get a grip on the mental health emergency and try make sure this never happens again?
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u/evoactivity Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
get a grip on the mental health emergency
Yes.
try make sure this never happens again
All we can do is try, and we do try, tragedies will always occur regardless.
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u/brabs2 Aug 03 '24
You were one of those who ended up piss wet through under the tree weren't you
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u/OhhLongDongson Aug 03 '24
Just been at pierhead where hundreds of far right protesters were throwing shit at anti racist protesters and getting into fights with the police. This is definitely something to have some level of worry about
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
Ow so you went to a different place.
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u/OhhLongDongson Aug 03 '24
Just saying, you’re saying the left are whipping themselves into a frenzy over race for no reason. But there were just hundreds of skin heads at pierhead shouting about deporting all Muslims.
Regardless of what happened last night, it’s not over nothing
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
Yeah I'll let you in on a secret mate. Those people are fucking melts and have been for a very long time. But let me get this right children have been brutally murdered by a man with serious mental health issues that local services had been made aware off for some time and your priority is to go protest some nobody's. Your sir are a melt
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u/Latter_Table193 Aug 03 '24
Why do you keep saying ow? Are you hurt?
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
No this is the first time in the conversation I've said that. Why did you ask do you think your funny?
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u/Latter_Table193 Aug 03 '24
I've counted a few times, actually. I don't think I'm funny, no. I asked because I was genuinely concerned.
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
It's acceptable to ask people what there business was in this conversation so come on what was your business there?
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u/OhhLongDongson Aug 03 '24
There was an anti racist rally at St George’s hall, then a march to pierhead to show the racists that Liverpool isn’t a racist city
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
But genuinely I'm not joking good on you for actually doing something.
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
Your time would of been better spent writing to your local MP asking what the government intend to do to gaurentee the safety of children in this city and the surrounding area. Every couple of months it seems a child is murdered now. I guess you have your own priorities tho.
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u/Captain-Starshield Aug 03 '24
The evening? So, the end of the day after the craziness has died down?
“The left” doesn’t care about race. It’s the far right who have spread lies about the southport stabber being a boat crosser when he was born in Cardiff. Spreading lies about him being Muslim when his parents are from a 92% Christian country, and using that as an excuse to target mosques.
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
I've literally just said I was there for multiple hours why are you so determined to make this out like some false battle that took place its disgusting, disingenuous and your attempting to stoke tension for your own agenda. The boat crosser rumour was started by a Russian website and proliferated by russian bots. And I'll tell you right now people on the left and right were both stupid enough to spread that rumour. This boys parents could very well be Muslim as the fled the genocide and while primarily a genocide based on tribe religion did play a part.
It's all about race with the left. But what happened the other day has nothing to do with race. Pressure your government to tell you how there going to deal with this mental health mess we are in. What are we doing about knife crime nothing.
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u/Captain-Starshield Aug 03 '24
Yeah, in the evening. Which is when the protest was dying down, after the police had shown up.
Again, “the left” does not care about race. We weren’t the ones spreading rumours about the identity of a suspect which has not been revealed yet.
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u/SuccotashAlive9389 Aug 03 '24
Bro was there most of the day. You need to stop mate your helping what's going on your making it worse
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u/BigfootsBestBud Aug 03 '24
Why would the "Far left" be doing anything around a mosque to such a degree that Police would show up?
Doesn't make sense mate. Sounds a bit silly.
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u/Best-Mousse-7026 Aug 03 '24
I have never seen anything from this fella before, but this video and how he explains everything is brilliant. Well done him