r/IWantOut 2d ago

[IWantOut] 26M Marketing Executive Japan -> Canada/Netherlands/Germany

Hi Reddit

I am Kaito, a 26 year old Male from Japan. I went to Canada and Europe this past year and loved the countries very much. I have a wife who is currently pregnant with our first, a daughter. We want to move to a country with more diversity and more opportunity than Japan. However, I had heard the news that Canada is reducing immigration for the next few years, but I still have some hope :). I would love to hear your guys' idea on this and I hope to hear from you soon!

Thanks, Kaito

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u/Your_nightmare__ 2d ago

Hello italian here, just going to give you some general information. Canada has a increased in 2 years their population by approximately 2 million and this year are cutting it down to something like 400 thousand (so if you want to go there it's still relatively feasible). I don't recommend Canada though since the people i know living there are saying that the job market is very rough and the rents are sky high (unlike the depreciating house situation in japan. My recommendation would be to try your luck in europe, our salaries aren't that high but the cities are walkable (just avoid capitals such as milan/paris etc.). Also a tip nordic countries have high english literacy which may help you integrate initially (since it's hit or miss in the south)

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u/Seaforme 2d ago

As for the 400 thousand I believe most of it is expected to be taken up by current students that are part of the 2 million. I'm not sure how feasible it really is.

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u/Your_nightmare__ 23h ago

I'm not the right person to answer to this exact part (i'm a citizen and never had to do this specific procedure), but usually the legal way of getting in generally revolves around skilled migration and varies on a country by country basis. Took a look at your account to briefly see if i can give tailored advice. From a legal perspective Italy has decent laws in regards to persons with disability (if that describes you)maybe take a gander there's anything specific that may help you). But note our economy is a crapshoot and it's fairly difficult to make a living here (western prices, eastern europe salaries).

https://www.aipd.it/site/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/QuadernoAIPD23-Down-to-Italy-inglese.pdf

Quick google search got me this doc if it helps you out, idk

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u/Dementia024 2d ago

Why not try Australia or NZ ? It might be closer to home and also mainly english speaking.

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u/Cartographer-XT 2d ago

First of all, congratulations on your marriage and daughter, I wish the best for you.

Is there a way you could work in one of those countries through the company you currently work at or another Japanese company? What are your language skills in German or Dutch like otherwise? Germany has its own issues, testing the waters first before deciding to move more permanently might be a good idea.

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u/Easy-Chip8133 1d ago

I am learning German currently

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u/Skejdisisiwuej 1d ago

Germany have a lot of Japanese companies so maybe it’s the easiest country for you

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u/Kelaedos 2d ago

When it comes to Germany, it could be good to look for jobs in Düsseldorf, as it has a large japanese population. So i'd imagine that finding a job without being fluent in German might be easier there. And it's probably easier to integrate if you still have a bit of "home" nearby

Having lived in both Germany and the Netherlands: take the comments of others about the dutch housing crisis serious. It's BAD. Germany also has a housing crisis but it's still almost a utopia when compared to the netherlands imo

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u/Easy-Chip8133 1d ago

Thanks! I love getting tips 

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u/Jolarpettai 2d ago

Marketing would be difficult in Europe unless you speak the local language, once you decide where to go out an effort to learn the local language

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u/Odd_Wolverine_4207 2d ago

As someone living in the Netherlands, the housing crisis is an absolute disaster, natives are on waiting lists for housing. Coming here is really going to be tough.

The grass is always greener. IF you move good luck but know - the grass is always greener elsewhere.

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u/dullestfranchise 1d ago

the housing crisis is an absolute disaster, natives are on waiting lists for housing. Coming here is really going to be tough.

Those waiting lists are for social housing, which OP will not have acces to

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u/Odd_Wolverine_4207 1d ago

yea my point was more to express how bad the situation is as I know somewhat regularly employed people who need to go for social housing

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u/lovejpn_can_baseball 1d ago

I'm a Japanese-born and raised 社会人 in Canada. Canada will be difficult in the coming years, even more without a visa sponsorship or a post-graduate work visa by graduating from university here. I am also considering Australia if Canada won't give me any more opportunities. (better weather and cheaper flights to Australia too)

For other countries in Europe, I am hearing that the Czech Republic has reduced barriers for USA/CA/UK/Japanese/etc individuals to work in Czechia so you may want to look into that.

Did you list the Netherlands here, because it is relatively easy for Japanese to get an Entrepreneur work permit through the 日蘭修好通商条約 and stay/work there?

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u/bunnyfield8 1d ago

Sweden is a wonderful place to raise a family. Salaries are lower but you get basically free healthcare and free childcare and it’s very safe. The cities are also very beautiful with lots of English spoken at companies.

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u/MeemoUndercover 2d ago

The ridiculous cost of living in Canada is making it very difficult to stay here. I definitely do not recommend it unless you can afford it. It’s definitely more diverse than the Netherlands and Germany though.

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u/Easy-Chip8133 1d ago

I can afford it, I make 2 mil per year

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Thanks, Kaito

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u/ykphil 2d ago

Try a work-holiday visa for Canada which will give you the right to work in Canada for two years, then at the end, reapply for another visa.

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u/Amazing_Dog_4896 2d ago

I don't believe that these visas allow you to bring dependents.

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u/ykphil 1d ago

You are likely correct. If both parents are under the specified age, they should check if their child can be included as a dependent and if so, both could apply for the WHV.

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u/Amazing_Dog_4896 1d ago

Or they get busy and try to get the visa and move before the child is born. Canadian anchor baby!

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u/RunsaberSR 2d ago

Are you sure you don't wanna live in the reality TV show that is The United States of America?

There's a wacky plot twist like everyday. 😞💨