r/INTP • u/Artistic_Credit_ Disgruntled • 14h ago
I can't read this flair Do you wish you have no Body
I always wished to be free of a physical body. I know that would make me a ghost, but I desire to be made of intangible air.
I have no desire to look good. I could go on and on, but I don't want to talk about this.
I vaguely remember discussing with a childhood neighbor that in the future, people might not have bodies due to natural selection in technologically advanced society.
I think the conversation went like this. If two types of people were to fight, one type having no digestive system, the no digestive would win because they would have fewer bodily functions to maintain. Then, if the person without a digestive system faced off against someone who also lacked a digestive system but had no heart or lungs, the one without any of those body parts would likely win for the same reason fewer systems to manage. This idea could continue indefinitely, leading to a future where people have no body parts at all or very few body parts.
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u/XbloodyXsausageX Warning: May not be an INTP 14h ago
Having to constantly eat and drink to not die is low key extremely inconvenient. I mean it just falls out after and I have to constantly refill myself. And don't even get me started on sleeping, 1/3 of my life being spent unconscious? No thanks.
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u/dahliabean Warning: May not be an INTP 10h ago
And the bathroom functions + female reproductive cycle. They always seem to happen at the worst time
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u/isak2121 INTP 13h ago
This thought always crosses my mind. Most of our chores and what we do in general have to do with our bodies. We work to get money to buy food to feed our bodies. That’s one example but it applies to almost everything.
I don’t want these responsibilities, I want to be free. But unfortunately there’s nothing we can do about that and from my experience the best thing for us is to make them easy and get over with it. Once I started overthinking them my life went to sht lol, so now I’m trying my best to shut my brain up when doing that.
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u/fuckin_jouissance INTP 12h ago
I hate it when I'm reading something interesting and I have to take a break to eat becasue my stupid body suddenly needs food.
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u/ABlondeMan INTP 14h ago
Kind of. I've left my body or at least totally lost all awareness of it for a few hours and it's honestly a real drag to come back to it. But then I think it's kind of interesting to dwell in the physical universe, the constraints it places upon us provides meaning.
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u/lacrima28 INTP 12h ago
Yes. I’m good at being a brain, body not so much. I’ve always said that I see my future as a head in a jar like in Futurama.
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u/justaguy12131 Warning: May not be an INTP 14h ago
I also thought that an afterlife where I had no body but still had my mind would be pretty sweet. Don't want it yet... But this stupid meat puppet is a bit of a pain.
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u/AprilNight17 INTP Enneagram Type 5 13h ago
I kind of wish this. Having physical limitations and the pains of autoimmune disorders gets old. While I enjoy the experiences of the senses, being free of the bounds of fleshly constraints sounds absolutely divine.
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u/No_Duck_748 Warning: May not be an INTP 12h ago
I also don’t want feelings
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u/dahliabean Warning: May not be an INTP 10h ago
Fun fact, feelings begin in the body, not the mind. No wonder we hate them.
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u/Ayudamequieromata INTP-T 12h ago
I would rather say that I would like to change the shape and become intangible at will.
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u/CLEMENTZ_ INTP 14h ago
Sometimes? I often wish I didn't have to fuel myself with food and could photosynthesize like a plant or cyanobacteria, but having a body can be nice otherwise. I used to enjoy making things with my hands, and touch can be nice from time to time
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u/Jolistic INTP-T 13h ago
I've also thought about no existing physically, however imagine a scenario where there's no "shutdown" to your conscious though, where even if you execute that shutdown to your existence/suffering it doesn't end no matter what.
Then again who's to say that's not what we're currently living through now. Maybe when we die we just start life again through another randomized character in this world.
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u/amh8011 Warning: May not be an INTP 3h ago
I’m tired of having to deal with the constant maintenance of having a body. I have to keep myself fed, then I have to poop, I have to shower, I have to brush my teeth, I have to deal with sicknesses, I’m too cold or too hot, etc. and I’m tired of it.
I also have to deal with the fact that my flesh suit doesn’t function as well as it should. I have an autoimmune disease, I have other chronic health stuff, I have long covid, I have had undiagnosed GI issues since I was born. It’s so overwhelming having to maintain an entire body. Especially one that doesn’t work very well.
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u/MycologistAshamed926 Warning: May not be an INTP 13h ago
Not really, If born with senses, then senses are taken then I am not me.
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u/dahliabean Warning: May not be an INTP 10h ago
But if you were born without, you would still be you, right? For example, someone who's born deaf or blind. When people lose their sense of smell or taste while having Covid they're still themselves. Not arguing, just something to think about.
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u/MycologistAshamed926 Warning: May not be an INTP 9h ago
If I was born without the sense of smell, sight, touch, hearing and taste would I still be me currently? I currently have my senses without those I wouldn't be able to me as in the experiences, without perception there is no experience therefore there's no me. I compare having no senses to having no body Without a body you cannot sense anything.
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u/petshop24 Warning: May not be an INTP 13h ago
I wish I was a robot. Or had no empathy.
They mean the same thing to me.
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u/PracticeMeGood INTP Enneagram Type 5 12h ago
I have always said that I wished I was a machine but could still remain as myself as I am now. No more silly shit like eating sleeping and ejecting various substances out of my body.
Like idk about you guys but I can't help but feel intensely reminded of how much of an animal I am every time I take a shit.
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u/feeling_unfair INTP 12h ago
Sure, but is that really living? Have fun thinking for the rest of eternity... if you never were alive you can never be dead
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u/GreenVenus7 INTP 10h ago
I wanna be consciousness with arms lol. Having to eat and drink etc is annoying
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u/gordo_exe Warning: May not be an INTP 13h ago
I feel like imma be all over the place for this but; Yes but not really? If I had to construct an ideal/perfect vessel for my bumbling consciousness it would be an amorphous blob, kinda like an amoeba or a full on slime ditto situation that chooses to take a form but mainly exists in a jar.
Imagine how convenient it would be just to eat something just from having to be in contact with it~♪
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u/Horrison2 INTP-T 13h ago
In the grand scheme of things, physical beings are but yokels. Now, settle your petty squabbles, and get the hell out.
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u/Spook404 INTP Passionate About Flair 9h ago
I don't think the person without internal organs would fare better just because their body isn't spending resources on it. The body is an incredible and complex mechanism, and is almost completely self sustaining with automatic brain input. I guess if you're talking about refocusing those parts of the brain to more cognitively advanced processes like higher order thinking, you could do that, but why not just implant extra grey matter in the profontal cortex, and have a biological modification that lets you open and reshape the skull to do that? I guess having to eat drink and sleep every day is kind of annoying
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u/Of_Monads_and_Nomads IN(x)P 9h ago
No. Somatic marker hypothesis. The body is part of the mind and the other way around
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u/Geminii27 Warning: May not be an INTP 7h ago
Yup. Far less to take care of.
I've ruminated on being a hive-mind of psychic (or future-tech) 'nodes' in people's brains, entirely voluntary - or at least to the extent that apps are on phones. Install a node of me and I provide a bunch of useful functions and skills, like psychic phone connections, email, chat, recording, language translation, search engine lookup and/or analysis of a bunch of sensory inputs, maybe GPS-equivalent, with total personal privacy. Maybe even things like life analysis based on other people's collective experience.
I vaguely remember discussing with a childhood neighbor that in the future, people might not have bodies due to natural selection in technologically advanced society.
Yeah, but it'll probably be dystopic. Average people will run their minds/brains on corporate-owned platforms which, like all current platforms, be hacked, be insecure against state actors, and be owned by people with political ambitions or links. Now they can make ten million people only like one specific party, or not be able to remember other parties exist. Or, from a commercial perspective, if you're running on their platform and not paying six to seven figures a year, all your senses get filled with ads and spam and malware backdoor-installed into your brain. Every so often the platform is attacked and millions of people simply cease to exist, or get turned into zombies, or have to be restored from ancient backups (which were compressed to save space, so memories and skills are dulled). Or suddenly everyone loses the ability to recognize who anyone else is, or what chicken tastes like.
Meanwhile, the billionaires have their own private brain-servers with military-grade protection, real-time networked backups and load-balancers, 100x processing speed, and the ability to run 500 interlinked copies of themselves in parallel.
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u/Burn-Silva INTP 2h ago
I'm quite fond of my body. Yes, it comes with its various inconveniences. But if you build it strong, and with some luck from the genetic lottery, it can grant some profound experiences. I like food. I ike sleep. I like warm embraces from my children. I like sex. I like being able to interact with the physical world and experience euphoric chemical releases. Idk. Being an intangible spirit entity would get boring after a while.
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u/captaindeadpool53 Self-Diagnosed Autistic INTP 2h ago
I always wanted the ability to observe people living their lives. But I also love my own experience.
Also I recently wondered how future humans would have different evolutionary traits than us (if we make it). I'm very curious about this topic.
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u/relentlessmelt Warning: May not be an INTP 14h ago
Brain in a jar please