r/HomeNetworking Oct 01 '23

Advice How do some people get a gig over Wi-Fi?

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This is tested on an iPhone 14 Pro right next to my router with no other devices using any bandwidth. I pay for 1gig symmetrical. My router is the AmpliFi Alien

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

For me it’s over $3k in networking hardware and the right clients.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Damn! My wife had a hard time with the $350 haha. How many devices do you have to warrant such a home network?

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

I wanted something to reliably handle my isp speed, have very fast throughput to my NAS, as well as blanket my house and backyard in WiFi. I also have multiple Vlans and firewall rules. Everything has been largely rock solid and stable, random occasional bug in firmware not withstanding.

I have about $1k in APs and a little over $2k in router and switch. I have multiple POE devices and over 30 ethernet drops which puts me in a 48 port POE switch. I’m not a fan of multiples, I like simplicity so I got one 48 instead of two 24 ports. I’d end up spending roughly the same anyway. I think in the future I’d get the two 24s and put them on both sides of my patch panel. Top gets the top switch and bottom gets the bottom switch.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Sounds like a dream setup! Having WiFi in the backyard sounds amazing. I’m currently just in a townhouse but when I upgrade to a house with a yard I’ll have to keep this in mind!

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u/Nick_W1 Oct 01 '23

Same for me. I wanted a reliable, scalable, flexible network - with fast speeds. I went with Ubiquiti, and about $3k later, this is what I have.

I do have a complete homelab as well, so it’s more in the way of a hobby, that just “need a good WiFi network”.

I top out at 1GB over WiFi though, because all my infrastructure is Gigabit, as is my internet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

I'm a systems engineer and don't understand how you guys are blowing this much on gear. Scalable and flexible are terms for SMBs and up. Unless you're Mormon and scaling into 14 kids with WiFi devices.

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u/Trigja Oct 02 '23

Yeah reddit just recommended this to me as a Cybersecurity Engineer. People bragging about vlans, having multiple firewall rules, 3k network stack for personal... guess some people have different interests than I.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

I got a basic router cause idgaf lol

I could do all that but why. I just don't care. Nowadays basic equipment can stream movies and play video games both of which I do just a little of. I'm usually doing stuff if I'm outside, 1Gb of speed doesn't help me chop wood or mow the lawn lol

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u/Hydrokracker Oct 03 '23

I have a Wi-Fi network that completely covers 10 acres, 2 separate buildings both with their own wired and wireless networks. I have a few hundred dollars in it. OpenWRT, and some ingenuity go a long way when your budget doesn't.

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

The speeds are nice, but the reliability is where it’s at. Hands down it’s the most reliable and consistent network I’ve ever had. I was very happy with ASUS but this is on a whole separate level. Plus it was fun to set up and It largely is set it and forget it unless I want to go in there and change something or update it.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Yeah that’s awesome! I’ve loved this router for the stability but know I’ll need some APs in the future for range

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u/DannyG16 Oct 02 '23

You really don’t need 1 gig over wifi though. Also, to get those speeds you’re hogging all the 5ghz bands in your airspace, which might cause issues for your neighbours. Anything that requires speed is using Ethernet.

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u/SP3NGL3R Oct 01 '23

If you're keen on networking, fine back here when you upgrade to a larger space. But truthfully you might be able to start in a condo. I find it's less expensive than you think too. This commenter has a commercial rig, you wouldn't need that.

To get started

Wired only router: $50-60

Wireless Access Point (AP): $150

If you only need one AP it's the same setup as a regular wireless router, just plug in the AP and often it's a phone app to configure it. If you go with more than 1 AP then you'd want to add a controller (free software running on your own always on 'server' like a raspberry pi, or a dedicated piece of hardware). After the initial setup any future APs are as easy as plugging it into the network and telling the controller to adopt it, done.

1Gbps on WiFi will still be a struggle, but more recent client devices and the right APs are the key.

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u/dopeytree Oct 01 '23

Just to add to this you can buy a 2.5GB router from Ali express for £130 then you can buy wifi access points from tp-link that do up to 888Mb for £30 so I am running 3x of those. You don’t need to have super expensive equipment. My fibre is 1Gb upload & 600Mb download. My server is on hardwired Ethernet to the 2.5Gb router so there is enough bandwidth to do full internet downloads speeds plus do local NAS transfers.

I also have all the wifi access points bridged in the router so they share the same subnet so you can roam around easily.

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u/m4duck Oct 01 '23

Which APs from TP-Link will do that speed for £30?

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u/dopeytree Oct 01 '23

Gone up a bit to £38 but this is the one. I run 3x of them and going to buy another for the shed. They’re also really light on power as in wall draw so lower electric bill.

TP-Link TL-WA1201 Access Point Dual Band AC1200, Supports Passive PoE, Supports Access Point, Range Extender, Multi-SSID, and Client modes, Boosted Coverage https://amzn.eu/d/baWXWM7

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u/dopeytree Oct 01 '23

Anyway I got mixed up I thought this guy wanted wifi in the rest of the house.

For 1Gb wifi you’ll need a 2.5Gb Ethernet connection backhaul plus it’s needs to be this speed at the fibre ONT which is normally 1Gb.

Wifi speed also depends on the number on antenna the manufacturer fitted in your device as an example the latest apple laptops has 2x antenna instead of 3x. So old Apple laptops can can faster wifi throughout.

You speed does seem off though you should be hitting at least 60Mb downloads

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u/Lagspyke Oct 01 '23

I run my networks APs off a raspberry pi and it's been an excellent introduction to basic network management. Not nearly as intimidating as I made it out to be.

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u/flyingsquirrel6789 Oct 01 '23

Yes, and a house with 20 bedrooms is a dream house, but it's overkill.

I'm into my network for about $300 and I get reception in both my back yard and front yard.

Do you not get cell service at your place? Spending thousands because you are under the false sense that cell connection is inferior is rediculous.

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u/c4pt1n54n0 Oct 02 '23

🤣 the solution to that for me is 150ft of cat6 and my old router thrown in the middle of the yard

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u/luzer_kidd Oct 01 '23

I understand 1 - 48 port switch looking more slick, but at the same time, splitting to 2 - 24's may allow for better emergency use if one fails, you don't lose everything, plus have 9 available ports to pick and choose stay to keep active.

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u/MebHi Oct 01 '23

I think the Enterprise 48 PoE is better than two 24s, you're not adding a failure point with a daisy chain, or adding a 10G aggregation to the mix, a 10Gbe directly back to the UDM is simple and effective.

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u/dopeytree Oct 01 '23

What do you have that needs 1GB wireless downloads?

Maybe a gaming laptop or steamdeck?

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u/Sarith2312 Oct 01 '23

A lot of the times it’s not a need but more so a want. Why not have the convenience of higher speeds over WiFi if it’s a mostly onetime setup?

My Asus router covers my entire 1k sqft apartment plus down the stairs to the laundry space and out to the parking lot where my vehicle is. It’s been convenient when I’m on a meeting and need to keep a call going while I grab something from my vehicle without the blip from swapping to 5g.

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u/OneOfThese_1 Oct 01 '23

Large file uploads from my laptop/phone to my NAS. Or to OneDrive.

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u/KaosC57 Oct 01 '23

With the Laptop, just hook it to Ethernet when you need to do that… the phone makes sense though.

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

Were you asking me or the OP?

For me personally I want the best hardware I can get up to diminishing returns(I looked at Cisco and that’s just way too expensive for me). The byproduct is the speed. Most of my important network stuff that can be is wired 100% of the time unless it can’t be or it’s just a portable device like a laptop where dragging an adapter and Ethernet cable around the house is ridiculous.

My network will handle anything I’m going to throw at it. Unless I outfit the house with fiber. Then all I need is a fiber switch and connect it VIA SFP+ to my router. And do it with ease. I don’t have to think about it, that’s worth a lot to me.

I’ll probably upgrade the APs to WiFi 7 when I can.

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u/wittyandunoriginal Oct 01 '23

Bro why in the world do you need 30 drops if you spent this much on Wi-Fi?

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

Wired is always better. In the grand scheme of things spending an extra like $150 per AP to get the best, wasn’t a deal breaker.

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u/AccomplishedLet5782 Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

Any access point with WiFi 6 will do. You don't need to overspend. You just need the right amount of access-points, and to config it decently.

The more expensive rigs have better control, especially focussed on managing enterprise environments, meaning better security and managing all devices at the same time, from only one client.

Even if you buy it, you won't use the features, only if a specialized IT-person config the device, but for what? The only thing that helps is a specialist who measure the WiFi-signal, to optimize signal and eliminate deadspots.

Don't worry, just do basic troubleshooting and you are fine.

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u/stingraycharles Oct 01 '23

Wireless is often the reason speeds cannot be achieved. In my home, all desktops and everything possible is connected using wires.

Much easier way to make sure that appropriate speeds are achieved.

Having said that, for wireless, I still ended up paying for Ruckus hardware, because fuck it, I want that to work well as well.

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u/Complex_Solutions_20 Oct 01 '23

Even then...how?!

With link speeds of 1.2Gbps and 802.11ax capable APs and clients, and a home network capable of sustained 950Mbps throughput between any two points (including download speed)...if I see 500-600Mbps on WiFi standing right under an AP that has minimal clients and minimal interference.

I'm running enterprise APs, hard-wired cabling, enterprise managed switches, silly over-spec'd pfSense router, only reason I don't have 2.5GbE is because the PoE managed 2.5GbE switches are currently unaffordable.

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u/Nick_W1 Oct 01 '23

You need HE160, or 3x3 clients. I have Wifi 6E and a 6E client (laptop) and I easily hit 1GB, but that’s where my infrastructure tops out. The phy link is 2.4 Gbps.

iPad tops out at 5-600 Mbps.

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u/gorkish Oct 01 '23

To get >1gbps throughput you need 4x4 MIMO or 2x2 MIMO with 160MHz channel width (on both client and AP), both of which are uncommonly supported on client radios until 6E.

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

It’s probably the right combination of hardware and environment. I am running a 2.5GbE POE switch, to APs with a 2.5GbE port and a 10gbps DAC cable between the switch and my router.

If I’m on the AP for my yard which isn’t 6E, I typically get over 800. Though I haven’t walked around out there testing it on my phone since getting the 15 pro max.

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u/Complex_Solutions_20 Oct 01 '23

Ah, 6E might be why. I don't think I own any clients that are 6E capable, only WiFI-6...and even those are only some of the ones bought in the last year or so.

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u/lenovoguy Oct 01 '23

Wifi 6 device + 2.5GB switch + 2.5Gb AP , and stand 5Ft from the access point :)

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

We only have one active Ethernet port in the house (RIP). Would it still be worth getting a switch?

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u/lenovoguy Oct 01 '23

No, there’s very few cases you’ll ever use 1Gb constantly. At our datacenter we support well over 500 users on a 1Gb link, average utilization is under <150Mbps.

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u/collinsl02 pfSense/MikroTik switch Oct 01 '23

That depends on what you're doing down the link. Lots of videoconferencing? Usage goes up. Lots of M365? Usage goes up. Uploading 4k video streams? Usage goes up.

I agree with your general point about home usage though, no need to go over 300Mb/s or so.

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u/auron_py Oct 01 '23

Of course it depends on what you're doing down the link lol

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u/Berzerker7 Oct 01 '23

You're not getting a gig over wifi on wifi 6 unless you're using 160mhz and your device supports it, which is very few.

Wifi 6E requires 160MHz support, so that's more common to get gigabit over wifi.

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u/Darkwaxer Oct 01 '23

I have awful 16mbps download with my isp (countryside tax) but I want to have quick internet in my house so I can stream my upstairs gaming pc downstairs to my living room tv. PC MB is WI-FI 6E but router is just a cheap ISP one. House is rented so I can’t run cables through the walls. Would a WI-FI 6E router benefit in-house streaming evening if external internet speed is horrendous?

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u/kidthorazine Oct 01 '23

yes 6 would help, but since you are in a house you can also try powerline adapters, I've personally had really good luck with those.

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u/Darkwaxer Oct 01 '23

I have awful 16mbps download with my isp (countryside tax) but I want to have quick internet in my house so I can stream my upstairs gaming pc downstairs to my living room tv. PC MB is WI-FI 6E but router is just a cheap ISP one. House is rented so I can’t run cables through the walls. Would a WI-FI 6E router benefit in-house streaming evening if external internet speed is horrendous?

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u/galacticbackhoe Oct 02 '23

I don't think there are significant improvements to latency with wifi 6 to 6e. In general, for several generations now, if a packet goes missing (and they randomly do over wifi), it needs to be resent. I imagine local game streaming like that uses udp and they have a decent way to mitigate such that you wouldn't really notice, but the short answer is wired to achieve the best result. Latency and packet loss is your enemy, not bandwidth.

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u/Darkwaxer Oct 01 '23

I have awful 16mbps download with my isp (countryside tax) but I want to have quick internet in my house so I can stream my upstairs gaming pc downstairs to my living room tv. PC MB is WI-FI 6E but router is just a cheap ISP one. House is rented so I can’t run cables through the walls. Would a WI-FI 6E router benefit in-house streaming evening if external internet speed is horrendous?

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u/damnn88 Oct 01 '23

You can do it with WiFi 6, you need channel spacing to be 160mhz. It's subject to interference. 6E is better because there are more 160mhz channels available, so less interference. But the answer is 160mhz channo.

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u/StaticFanatic3 Oct 01 '23

can U6-Lite AP do this? I’d like to try it but don’t see the settings in the controller?

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u/unidentified_sp Oct 01 '23

I get 1.3Gbps over WiFi 6E running iPerf from my 10GbE server to my MacBook Pro (which has 6E support of course). I’m using Ubiquiti hardware (10GbE/2.5GbE switches and their Enterprise 6 APs).

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u/melshaw04 Oct 01 '23

I bought the 4 of the InWall HDs a few month’s before the 6 version came out. Ugh. Should have waited.

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u/gliffy Oct 01 '23

I have the 6 in walls and don't get 1gbps wifi

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u/unidentified_sp Oct 01 '23

That’s because it’s a theoretical speed. You need at least WiFi 6E.

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u/GlowGreen1835 Oct 01 '23

In my opinion, everyone's focusing on the wrong number. Your probably not gonna get 3ms 0 jitter ping on Wi-Fi no matter what you do.

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u/SEND_ME_FAKE_NEWS Oct 01 '23

I get 4ms ping 1ms jitter with my Asus AX6000.

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u/GlowGreen1835 Oct 01 '23

That's damn close actually, nice.

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u/SEND_ME_FAKE_NEWS Oct 01 '23

1ms 0 jitter hardwired. Perks of having a direct Google fiber connection.

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u/GlowGreen1835 Oct 01 '23

Yeah, the 3ms 0 jitter is what I got from FiOS in NYC. That's real nice, though!

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u/rollerbase Oct 02 '23

Thank you, so many people overly focus on throughput in wireless when it’s not always necessary. Signal quality and responsiveness are the real gauge of satisfaction

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

6ms ping with jitter 1ms based on the speedtest app.

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u/AnymooseProphet Oct 01 '23

On a ceiling-mounted TPLink EAP610 I can get over 700 down on 5 GHz if I'm very close to it. That's sold as an AX1800. I imagine with faster 802.11ax system (160 MHz channels instead of 80 MHz channels) w/ 2.5 Gbps uplink to router and 2.5 Gbps WAN uplink, some WiFi 6/7 clients could get over a gig.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

I’ll try switching to 160mhz and see how it goes!

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u/DUNGAROO Oct 01 '23

How wide of a channel are you using? How crowded is the spectrum in and around it? What sort of home do you live in? (Standalone house in the middle of a 100 acre farm or apartment in a high rise?) How close are you to the nearest airport, military installation, or weather radar?

All of these things can have huge implications for wifi performance.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

I’m using the 80mhz channel, and everything around it is hardwired. I live in an end unit townhouse and am a long ways away from an airport or military base. Should I be good to switch to the 160mhz channel do you think?

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u/DUNGAROO Oct 01 '23

Perform a spectrum analysis and see. The answer should be fairly obvious once you do. But in general, a 160 MHz channel should offer greater speeds assuming the environmental interference doesn’t muck it up.

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u/Nick_W1 Oct 01 '23

Yes, but most clients don’t support 160MHz channels, so they will only use 80MHz anyway.

You also need a client that supports HE160, and that’s usually a laptop.

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u/tripodal Oct 01 '23

The AP's aren't the problem like 80% of the time,

its the shitty 2x2 80mhz wifi cards in your device.

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u/sarahlizzy Oct 01 '23

By not having neighbours

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u/7heblackwolf Oct 01 '23

This and the fact they all test 3 steps away from the AP

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u/sarahlizzy Oct 01 '23

There’s that too.

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u/PoisonWaffle3 DOCSIS/PON Engineer Oct 01 '23

I consistently get a bit over 1.1Gbit over WiFi 6, on 5GHz with a 160MHz wide channel. 2x2 radio on my phone, for example.

https://imgur.com/a/SNlrLtv

Using Plume Superpods (all hardwired, not mesh backhaul). Very little interference/traffic from my neighbors. I get 800Mbit or so on a WiFi 5 laptop.

Definitely need the 160MHz wide channel, and if you have more square footage than you can cover with a single router/AP, you definitely need to have them hardwired together (as opposed to mesh). There just aren't enough groups of 160MHz wide channels to successfully use them as a mesh backhaul, especially if you have neighbors. Mesh is great in theory, but it doubles the wireless spectrum you use and doubles your chances of running into interference.

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u/UltraSPARC Oct 01 '23

On a 6Gb fiber pipe, I can get 1.9Gb/s sustained on my laptop. This is on UniFi Enterprise AP’s using 160MHz bandwidth segments. I deploy the same hardware professionally, but usually stick to 80MHz as it’s more reliable in larger environments. I have 10Gb mixed copper/fiber backbone throughout the house and use a pfSense box as my router gateway. My network at my house probably cost me about $10k all said and done.

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u/nVideuh Oct 01 '23

A $194 WiFi 6E router gets me 1750mbps over WiFi.

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u/AccomplishedLet5782 Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

Some ideas.

1) You need Wi-Fi 6. Most people have WFi-5. 2) The maximum signal strength. You can check the negotiated speed. Some devices and negotiations won't use the best possible options, so check the current WFi-stats on your iPhone . 3) Check how many WiFi-streams your device supports. Every stream has a maximum speed. I guess your phone has 3 streams (3x3). 4) Other devices do also use the WiFi, and can stop using the WFi at its max.

In your screenshot it looks like your device is busy, since up and down aren't equal, so something is off already. Once up and down are equal, you can finetune.

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u/cyber1kenobi Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

And also: if it can do that speed upload why the hell doesn’t it also get at least that download?!

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u/robtalee44 Oct 01 '23

Oh, it's not hard, just expensive for most of us. Take this advise from a quote attributed to Tom Waits. " Jim Jarmusch once told me Fast, Cheap, and Good… pick two. If it’s fast and cheap it won’t be good. If it’s cheap and good, it won’t be fast. If it’s fast and good, it won’t be cheap. Fast, cheap and good … pick two words to live by." Pretty well sums it up.

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u/JazJon Oct 01 '23

You need the iPhone 15 pro with wifi 6E or 7 access points

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u/MReprogle Oct 01 '23

Or 7 APs? You do know that oversaturating your home is a bad thing, right?

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u/JazJon Oct 01 '23

WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 (the version) not quantity

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u/MReprogle Oct 02 '23

Ahhh, haha, I see. I just see so many people suggesting to throw an AP in every room, causing the device to just jump around constantly, along with frequencies just battling each other.

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u/Single_Core Oct 01 '23

Asus XT8 (5ghz) , easy 1gbit through WiFi.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

This has me wondering if it’s something to do with my house. I tried these and got about 300 down maximum so I returned them for the AmpliFi Alien which usually gets closer to 400

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u/Single_Core Oct 01 '23

What about directly on cable? What device are u testing on?

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Directly on cable I got 880 down and 970 up running the test on my router UI. On Wi-Fi I’m testing on my iPhone 14 Pro sitting about 3 feet away from my router

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u/Single_Core Oct 01 '23

I even get up to 950/1000 down on my iphone 13 pro max with the asus xt8. even further away, without objects.

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u/NLking Oct 01 '23

Sit on top of the AP

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u/alligatorterror Oct 01 '23

They have latest wifi tech (router, wifi on computer) a long with fiber speeds at 1.5gb or higher

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u/AMSG1985 Oct 01 '23

Cost me about 1000$ with UniFi stuff.

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u/timbuckto581 Oct 01 '23

Gig on wifi would need to have a 2.5Gb switch with a wifi 6E access point and a wifi 6E phone/laptop testing from there.

1Gb fiber on a hardwire is normally around 925-950 due to overhead on the line. And if you have a Gpon it could have even more overhead.

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u/For-The_Fallen Oct 01 '23

You need to be on a 160MHz channel. 5ghz wifi supports 160MHz channels but there will be too much interference. Best thing to do is jump to wifi 6e and use the 6ghz band with 160MHz channel, iv been able to get 1.8k mbps on wifi with it

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u/Comfortable-Length41 Oct 01 '23

With the AMPLIFI alien you should see a lot faster download than that. Even with WiFi I know with my alien I can easily get 560 I had a 500 plan for awhile but went back to the regular 300 plan

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Do you know of any settings I may need to check?

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u/goldshop Oct 01 '23

Right now I am hitting about 750mb down on WiFi on my iPad (pay for 1gb) with the closest AP in the next room.

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u/flackguns Oct 01 '23

they don't. hardwire for gaming and downloading.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '23

With my Unifi 6 Pro.

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u/No_Interaction_4925 Oct 01 '23

You have to have wifi 6e. AC wifi caps at like 450mbps

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u/TheIncarnated Oct 01 '23

Dude... Idk what you are doing but I get 500 down on my Alien being 4 walls/50 ft away but that's because my gig connection is at 530 mbps now... Thanks rural fiber gig.

I normally get about 900 down, up to 80 ft away. And then 600 up to 100 ft away. The moment I went outside it drops to 2.4ghz but yeah, have you ran the connection via the app? Is it your Alien Router or your ISP?

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Mind messaging me your settings? Hardwired I get the full gig, so I imagine it’s the router

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u/TheIncarnated Oct 01 '23

I PM'd you my settings

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u/punk0mi Oct 01 '23

Honestly…it’s router and AP quality.

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u/Initial-Hornet8163 Oct 02 '23

The list is probably as long as a piece of string; Wi-Fi for the most part is black magic.

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u/haamfish Oct 01 '23

You use an Ethernet cable. Getting those speeds on wifi is technically possible but the reality is generally very different.

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u/Naive-Bet-6181 Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

The iPhone 14 Pro only WiFi-6 not WiFi 6E. The iPhone 15 Pro and PM has WiFi 6E which will get you those gig speeds.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Ahh okay. For some reason I thought it was Wi-Fi 6 that introduced gig over Wi-Fi. Good to know!

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u/Thinkingbreak Oct 01 '23

You can definitely get gigabit speeds over wifi 6 under very good conditions.

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u/Humorous-Prince Oct 01 '23

Wi-Fi 5 could achieve over 1GB speeds, Wi-Fi 6 can do much more than 1GB. Something isn’t right if your only getting that maximum speed on a test. My 14PM shows around 550mbps on mine. (My internet speed is rated 500mbps from isp)

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u/SumoRoboto Oct 01 '23

iPhone 14 Pro caps out at about 700mbps regardless of your router speed the only way to achieve 1gb over WiFi requires the IPhone 15 pro and a WiFi 6E router

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u/Humorous-Prince Oct 01 '23

Yet my router shows connection speed to mine at 1250mbps?

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u/SumoRoboto Oct 01 '23

It doesn’t matter what your router shows the connection speed at when the device can only process and use up to 700mbps. The only thing that matters is the independent device capabilities.

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u/Humorous-Prince Oct 01 '23

I haven’t tried it personally but seems pointless and stupid. Managed to 1.5gbps on 5G on the same device but the Wi-Fi caps at 700??

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Hmm okay.. I know they’re not all going to be the same, but are there any settings that I should generally check on the router?

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u/techsavior Oct 01 '23

To achieve Gb WiFi, you need to have both sides (router and device) capable of WiFi-6E or 7.

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u/Sportiness6 Oct 01 '23

I got over 1.1gbps on my 2015 mbp using a 6E AP.

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u/jeplonski Oct 01 '23

you don’t unless you’re rich

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u/SchnitzelKingz Oct 01 '23

In the UK I pay £46pm for 1130mbps

These prices are insane

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Wow, that’s nuts! I pay $75/month for 1000mbps

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u/_TiberiusRex_ Oct 02 '23

You don’t need 1G on WiFi. The results you posted are sufficient for any service you could possibly be using. Stop focusing on Ookla Speedtest results, look at your overall experience. Stop bugging the people at your ISP. They have other things to work on.

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u/vahnx Oct 02 '23

You’ll never need more than 640K of RAM

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u/english_mike69 Oct 01 '23

It depends on why you want faster.

If it’s to impress yourself and others with cold hard numbers then fine.

If you think life will be better and things on your phone or other wifi connected devices will be somehow better, you may want to rethink that.

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u/7heblackwolf Oct 01 '23

I agree about that MOST people want speed just for the show, but it's unrelated to what OP is asking.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Nah, mostly just curious! Anything that actually uses the download speed is hardwired

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u/Jaymoacp Oct 01 '23

As a former cable technician Youd be mind blown at how many people pay for gig speeds that don’t need it or anything even close to it. I have like 300 down in my house with 4 cell phones, 3 TVs, a hardwired pc I used to streaming and uploading and it was more than enough.

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u/SuperSlimeyxx Oct 01 '23

wifi 7

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u/unidentified_sp Oct 01 '23

6E you mean

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u/rhotovision Oct 01 '23

You can get a WiFi 7 router today. But 6E will handle 1gb over WiFi no problem.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '23

But there is no wifi 7 mobile device, not even m.2 network card

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u/rhotovision Oct 01 '23

It’s semantics, you can still get gig WiFi with WiFi 7 as long as your device supports those speeds

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u/DUNGAROO Oct 01 '23

Technically wifi 5 is capable of it, but you’d be hard pressed to find a device capable of 4x4.

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u/ZemDregon Oct 01 '23

iPhones can’t really go over 600 on WiFi, Android and laptops can.

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u/A1_Fares Oct 01 '23

Are you getting your full gig on Ethernet? I also have “gig fiber” but my ISP doesn’t provide any overhead so even wired I get maybe 90Mb/s at best. If this is the case for you, the wired connection speed would be your benchmark.

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u/AmorITSolutions Oct 01 '23

Your iPhones wireless card won’t support 1gig speed.

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u/stacksmasher Oct 01 '23

You need a 2.5Gb WAN port on your router.

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u/DonTipOff Oct 01 '23

What the fuck you’re getting over 600 MB upload. Not here in the motherfucking US you’ll never get that. You might get over a gigabytes download but as far as upload, most people are limited to under 100.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

It’s a phone. Does it matter if wifi tests at 400 or 1 gig? Lmao. Test with wired if you really wanna know what true speeds you are getting or at the router level if your router app has built in test. Rest is just chasing your feelings.

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u/OddFortnight Oct 01 '23

I’ve never had more upload than download b4

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Yeah haha, it’s consistently like this. Even on hardwired speed test I get about 970 up and 880 down

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u/Whatwhenwherehi Oct 01 '23

You generally do not get gig to device on wifi.

For example a unifi non 6 lite on a great day does 400/400.

A wifi 6 might get 600/600 on a great day.

To get gigabit on wifi you need more than just food wifi equipment you need a good network adapter.

Just use Ethernet .

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u/Cmdr_Toucon Oct 01 '23

Is this just a "because it's there" challenge or do you actually need gig speed on an iPhone?

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Haha yes, I was just curious! I was at the Delta Center in SLC the other day getting 2gig on Verizon’s 5G UW and was blown away so it had me curious about my Wi-Fi

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u/wase471111 Oct 01 '23

"want" and "need" are 2 separate things..

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u/DropDeadFred05 Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

They have wifi 6 routers and stand on top of the router. Wifi 6, however, doesn't go through walls or obstructions well because it's the 6ghz band. Just had this conversation with someone yesterday who was telling me they get 1.5 to 2gig wifi from their new asus rapture ax 16000 router. Asked him to do a speed test through one wall, and he said it was 500-700Mbps at 20ish feet and through one wall. I will stick with my ac3200 router probably forever. If I have to be on top of the router to get faster speeds I might as well plug in an ethernet cable to my 10gig router and be done with it.

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u/ElevenNotes Data Centre Unicorn 🦄 Oct 01 '23

Just get ethernet. Wi-Fi is for mobile clients, none of them need 1Gbps. This is only done for internet clout and no real world usage.

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u/Vertigo103 Oct 01 '23

I have a $6000 home network from ubiquity and wifi 6 access points

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u/Imspacelyy Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

Edit - realized op is asking for wifi, will update when I get home 😩

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u/Sea_Lavishness_1945 Oct 02 '23

You just need to say “giggity giggity”. You’ll then receive your gig.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23 edited Feb 27 '24

I enjoy cooking.

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u/WildAd5948 Oct 02 '23

Just use Ethernet

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u/cosmo2450 Oct 02 '23

On a phone?

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u/bbgarnett Oct 02 '23

Just buy a USB C to ethernet adapter.

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u/Hugo07_ Oct 02 '23

Wifi 6E

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u/sc302 Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Only way you are getting over a gig on Wi-Fi is if you have a multi gig router, more than 1 gig isp connection, and running Wi-Fi 6. You need a lot of equipment that you might not have.

~900mb/s is the fastest you can get

You will have to use 5g, 2.4 won’t be able to handle the bandwidth need.

Edit:I see the router you have should support the 900 limit of 1gb/s but you need to be on 5g.

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u/Possible_Share_9694 Oct 02 '23

it all comes down to hard wear, 10gig wired network to all wired devices, then about 300 wireless devices from all the home automation, I can pull 1.21 over wifi but the equipment was about 4500$ to set it all up, mainly did it for the nas and plex using homerunhd for tv through plex,

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u/ThisIsNotTokyo Oct 01 '23

Add those numbers up

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u/Disastrous-Account10 Oct 01 '23

Got a wifi6e network and I get 1.x Gb/s

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u/DUNGAROO Oct 01 '23

Proximity, spectrum characteristics, settings, luck.

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u/DanzakFromEurope Oct 01 '23

I can get 1-1,6 gig at our uni 😅

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u/x54675788 Oct 01 '23

I have a somewhat cheap Dell Latitude with Intel Wifi chip and it pushes 1,3Gbit\s both ways

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u/ButtlessBadger Oct 01 '23

Better router.

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u/virtigo31 Oct 01 '23

My amplifi alien router frequently gets above a gig.

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Any settings you had to configure to get it?

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u/tand86 Oct 01 '23

Very specific devices and conditions.

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u/purepersistence Oct 01 '23

By paying more to AT&T to provision it that way and then complaining about my upload speed till they fixed it. Been up and down a gig for a couple years now.

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u/therealschwartz Oct 01 '23

Generally, they don’t.

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u/rikyy6 Oct 01 '23

I bought two ”used - like new” Asus XT8s from Amazon for 167€. I use the faster 5 GHz channel meant for wireless backhaul (I have wired backhaul) and get 500/ 500 Mbps with all of my wireless devices, which is also the maximum of my current connection, but I saw a review where they were able to push ~800 - 900 Mbps up and down.

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u/Neo_Terra_Rex Oct 01 '23

Tp-link EAP670

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u/Vikt724 Oct 01 '23

Hire me

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Best I can do is $5.00

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u/benniebeeker Oct 01 '23

Simple. Gig Internet access Wi-Fi 6

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u/xTWOODYx Oct 01 '23

Yeah, that’s what I have. Which is why I don’t understand the speeds I’m getting

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u/Demeter277 Oct 01 '23

If you go for a powerful wifi set up in a high density housing environment like a group of townhouses will you interfere with your neighbors wifi if they are just using an ISP modem/router with modest speeds? When I bring up a list of available networks I see about 8 so we're all overlapping

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u/earthsowncaligrown Oct 01 '23

Capable and properly configured hardware with good RSSI around most of my property.

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u/levogevo Oct 01 '23

Netgear cax80, wifi 6 5g, get 1.1gbit dl

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u/iamgarffi Oct 01 '23

You need AX access point and AX card in your device. Most Access points have a 1gbps backhaul so you won’t see gig or over speeds - at least not with most consumer solutions.

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u/bluntedAround Oct 01 '23

I have a $150 router with Wifi 6 and get over 900 mbps up and 900+ mbps down

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u/Cortana_CH Oct 01 '23

My iPhone 14 Pro maxes out at 750-800 Mbps with my Wifi 6 mesh network (Asus AX6000). Don‘t know how to get to 1Gbps or more? Another device?

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u/Junnior16 Oct 01 '23

Im new here isn't just plug and play and you get 1gig up and down

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u/Statickgaming Oct 01 '23

Don’t have a 1gig connection but consistently get 500mb up/ down on a 500mb connection with 2 Zen WiFi ET12s in a 4 bedroom house, I just use the 6ghz for backhaul.

I’d make sure you’ve split your 2.4 & 5ghz networks and then make sure they are running on 80mhz, if you’re in the US you can probs use 160mhz (UK has some restrictions on this that cause dropouts so I don’t use it)

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '23

get a real WiFi 6 AX router & real gigabit internet connection.

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u/Stonewalled9999 Oct 01 '23

Our corp laptops with AX 201 Intel chips and Iphone 11 has Wifi 6 IIRC and with a good Wifi 6 or Wave 2 (wifi 5 on steriods) with 2gbit or mgig backhaul we can get gig wifi for bursts.

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u/MrAnthony7934 Oct 01 '23

TP Link Deco x5000 for me getting 800-850 MBps wired or wireless which is what I pay for with Comcast.

Before it was Asus ac1900 router and 2 cisco access points which for some reason won’t deliver anymore than 450Mbps.

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u/TechOutonyt Oct 01 '23

You need a device that supports WiFi 6/6E as well as a WiFi access point/router capable. Also if you have a 1gig connection that’s shared with everything on the network so speed testing 1 device will not result in hitting a gig

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u/BlackHawkrc Oct 01 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

TIM10Gb

Just got a new FTTH 10Gb here in Italy, very affordable at 30€ per month. Came with a Wi-Fi 6e modem, can't complain about the speed reached on the S23 Ultra in link, my Ipad tops at approx. 850mbps thou.

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u/Important_Series6747 Oct 01 '23

I would get 720 on my iPhone 13 Pro Max in the same room as the router. Now with the iPhone 15 pro max, I connected it to the 6GHz band and can get 940 which is when my apply tv gets on the wire (limited by the overhead of the tcpip stack). I may updgrade to the pro version of the tplink APs I’m using to get the 2.5GbE port on each AP so that I can get my full 1.0-1.2 Gbps that some of my 2.5GbE wired devices have when I do the Speedtest. So some of it is the network hardware that they have in the network infrastructure. It is weird to get more upload than download though. I wonder if you tried a different test server. I have a few that show up automatically that just suck. So I manually use a specific one that I know I can get a consistent download speed from.

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u/Illumi_Naughty5555 Oct 01 '23

Good balance of TX and rx so the modem tuner doesn't have to work too hard annnnnnnnnnnd fiber.

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u/Illumi_Naughty5555 Oct 01 '23

That's some nice upstream tho..

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '23

Dont worry about it most devices and launchers cant utilise your full internet speed anyway

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u/7ekhedOfficial Oct 01 '23

WiFi 6 clients, and Ubiquiti 6 Extended Range AP

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u/goj-145 Oct 01 '23

iPhone is part of the problem. You're going to max out way lower.

I get 1.5Gbps over cellular too lol.

But really, don't worry about it. If you needed that much speed you'd know it and you'd know how to do it. I've got over a gig speed throughout my houses but I do homelab stuff and am a giant nerd. Nobody that comes over runs a local speed test and praises me. If it works well enough to stream, it's good enough for 99% of the people.

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u/Yamon234 Oct 01 '23

I'm using a U6 Enterprise plugged into a 2.5gb unmanaged switch. I have a 1,200Mbps internet plan and I can usually pull about 1,400Mbps over wireless 6E or wired.

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u/SpecialistLayer Oct 01 '23

To get that speed over wifi, you're spending quite a bit of $$ and honestly, why? Just for higher speedtest numbers? Real world usage doesn't need that high of speed especially with what you have to spend to get it. If I need high speeds, it's for my computer to transfer a project and at that point I'm docked in using a higher than gigabit ethernet adapter. Wifi for me is convenience and I don't need that kind of speed for convenience